Saturn retrograde and what you can do

[luis]

I've seen many post of people's scared of Saturn and Pluto retrograde, what i'm going to say is nothing new but i think it would help many confused SS.

What you need to do to protect yourself from these negative energy is:
- Meditations to raise your energy (Yoga, breathing exercise's, chakras meditation and so on...)
- Returning curses 1 and 2 (It takes me both 15 minutes with Surya at 216 reps and i don't have to worry about any planetary or other negative energy. If you can't do 216 reps you can still do less but to be honest it doesn't take that much time and it will litteraly protect you from anything)
- Final Rtr (It has been said here: https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=19201 that it free the soul not only from the jewish curses but even your own negative karma, this means that whatever negative planetary energy is trying to hit you it is not going to work becuse this Rtr is going to free you from it and it will help you advance because it will eliminate any negative shits in your chakras ).

If you can't vibrare mantra's for whatever reason and/or don't have enough time or privacy you can still protect yourself. Breathing exercise's and yoga (i'm talking about only Asana's) don't make sound and you can still find some time for them, don't make excuse! This will help you rise your energy and after yoga and/or breathing exercise's you can use the affirmation that we use in Returning curses 2, obviously if you can't vibrate you can still do the Returning curses 1. This is not as powerful as with vibration but it's better than nothing and it is going to help you. If you have the will there is a way to do it

Useful Links:
- Returning Curses Part 1: https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfir ... urses.html
- Returning Curses Part 2: https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfir ... rses2.html
- Protecting Yourself: https://web.archive.org/web/20150915125 ... rself.html
- How To Clean Your Aura: https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfir ... aning.html

[darkmonkey666]

I strangely had more problems with Jupiter direct amplifying certain aspects in my chart than Saturn or Pluto recently. But yeah I will keep up the aura of protection. I never was scared that much about pluto but Saturn retrograde yeah that does worry me.

Thanks for the advice. I think also yoga should help with anything look up Kundalini yoga asnas as it raises your vibration to do it everyday if you can by a lot and this offsets negative transits.

[luis]

I strangely had more problems with Jupiter direct amplifying certain aspects in my chart than Saturn or Pluto recently. But yeah I will keep up the aura of protection. I never was scared that much about pluto but Saturn retrograde yeah that does worry me.

Thanks for the advice. I think also yoga should help with anything look up Kundalini yoga asnas as it raises your vibration to do it everyday if you can by a lot and this offsets negative transits.

Usualy Jupiter is a benefic planet but sometime it can amplify things that you dont want. For example Jupiter in the 8 house can make you have a high libido wich is annoying if you dont have a partner. The returning curses 1 and 2 and all the rest is going to protect you from any negative energy even jupiter if amplify something negative.

[Gear88]

(It takes me both 15 minutes with Surya at 216 reps and i don't have to worry about any planetary or other negative energy. If you can't do 216 reps you can still do less but to be honest it doesn't take that much time and it will litteraly protect you from anything)

@Luis

Please tell me how you perform 216 vibrations of Surya for Returning Curses Pt.2 in 15 minutes because that sounds very crazy. 88 vibrations takes about 15 minutes, 108 vibrations for me takes about nearing 20 minutes and 216 would nearly double that to 45 minutes. In fact it's like 42 N.o.G. RTR 108 reps would take me about 20 minutes and 216 would take me 50 minutes. So how does vibrating a mantra in this case take so short of a time.

I know it's been stated that mantras can be vibrated quickly but then it gets into debates of what is better. Numerlogically locking a vibration to 216 and doing short vibrations i.e. multiple vibrations per breath. Or doing one breath vibrations and taking a long time. I mean on one hand I can understand 216 is terrific for cleaning even short vibrations do wonders but there are people that have done both and state quality over quantity.

@Darkmonkey666

Without revealing much about your astrological chart for your safety. Could you state if you have prominent Saturn and Pluto. Is it possible your a Pluto in Scorpio person and on top of that your Pluto is not just amplified in domicile but also other aspects of Pluto and Saturn.

Is it possible your so Saturnian and Plutonic that when the negatives happen it barely tickles you? For example back when I had my Waning Saturn it caused a mental illness to break out. Some state Waning Saturn is worse than Saturn Return.

For example I can state that my Saturn is in a prominent position and in domicile Capricorn. But it affects my entire chart in it's position. So it's possible I'm so used to Saturn that it is the normal way I am. Frankly I'm not terrified of my Saturn Return just concerned if something negative happens to my mental health. I do have hope that perhaps my Saturn Return does something wonderful perhaps it is what I need to fix and turn my life around if not then I guess I'm in the same boat. I have read from doing my own readings that it's possible I may either turn my life around and make it great or just be more miserable and crushed from whatever negatives abound.

Also what about Retrogrades do you notice anything involving those aspects within your chart maybe being retrograde it affects you differently.

[luis]

(It takes me both 15 minutes with Surya at 216 reps and i don't have to worry about any planetary or other negative energy. If you can't do 216 reps you can still do less but to be honest it doesn't take that much time and it will litteraly protect you from anything)

@Luis

Please tell me how you perform 216 vibrations of Surya for Returning Curses Pt.2 in 15 minutes because that sounds very crazy. 88 vibrations takes about 15 minutes, 108 vibrations for me takes about nearing 20 minutes and 216 would nearly double that to 45 minutes. In fact it's like 42 N.o.G. RTR 108 reps would take me about 20 minutes and 216 would take me 50 minutes. So how does vibrating a mantra in this case take so short of a time.

I know it's been stated that mantras can be vibrated quickly but then it gets into debates of what is better. Numerlogically locking a vibration to 216 and doing short vibrations i.e. multiple vibrations per breath. Or doing one breath vibrations and taking a long time. I mean on one hand I can understand 216 is terrific for cleaning even short vibrations do wonders but there are people that have done both and state quality over quantity.

@Darkmonkey666

Without revealing much about your astrological chart for your safety. Could you state if you have prominent Saturn and Pluto. Is it possible your a Pluto in Scorpio person and on top of that your Pluto is not just amplified in domicile but also other aspects of Pluto and Saturn.

Is it possible your so Saturnian and Plutonic that when the negatives happen it barely tickles you? For example back when I had my Waning Saturn it caused a mental illness to break out. Some state Waning Saturn is worse than Saturn Return.

For example I can state that my Saturn is in a prominent position and in domicile Capricorn. But it affects my entire chart in it's position. So it's possible I'm so used to Saturn that it is the normal way I am. Frankly I'm not terrified of my Saturn Return just concerned if something negative happens to my mental health. I do have hope that perhaps my Saturn Return does something wonderful perhaps it is what I need to fix and turn my life around if not then I guess I'm in the same boat. I have read from doing my own readings that it's possible I may either turn my life around and make it great or just be more miserable and crushed from whatever negatives abound.

Also what about Retrogrades do you notice anything involving those aspects within your chart maybe being retrograde it affects you differently.

I do vibrare Surya quickly. I think it depends on the mantra, if i vibrate a longer mantra for 216 it's going to take me longer but with Surya it takes me 15 minutes. To be honest it feels powerful, of course if i did vibraite each Surya for longer then it's going to be more powerful but it works for me and i can feel that is more powerful than just vibrating Surya for 108. This depends even on how much energy you can invoke, if you are new then obviously you are going to invoke less energy with a 216 reps than someone that meditate for more years.

[NinRick]

how do you vibrate surya? I mean how do you pronounce it? just like you would say surya?

[luis]

how do you vibrate surya? I mean how do you pronounce it? just like you would say surya?

There is an audio here https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfir ... aning.html
The word has to be vibrated letter for letter and the 'S' has to be hissed just like in Satanas.

[NinRick]

how do you vibrate surya? I mean how do you pronounce it? just like you would say surya?

There is an audio here https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfir ... aning.html
The word has to be vibrated letter for letter and the 'S' has to be hissed just like in Satanas.

Thanks