Money, Earth Element, & invoking Jupiter's Energy - Money Topic

[Ignisalas]

Ive been in poverty for most of my life, ive been doing a money affirmation combined with the Fehu rune every day. My birth chart Saturn is in my 8th house, which causes extreme poverty.
I was wondering if there is anything better that I can add to this, to make it a super money spell. By adding the earth element somehow, along with invoking Jupiter energies. But I'm not sure how I could do this, does anyone have any helpful tips? Maybe we could start a discussion about powerful, Mega Money Spells that everyone could do.
Magic is flexible. There are a lot of different affirmations, meditations and spellwork you could do that compliment and empower each other somehow.
I have my money affirmation:
("My aura is permanently and constantly attracting very large amounts of free easy money to me in a healthy positive way. This money belongs to me, and is all mine to keep.") Then vibrate Fe (Fehu). I do this for a total of 9 times. I don't know if this is the best affirmation, lol, its my own after all. I have also tweaked my AoP affirmations to protect me from poverty, Which causes these 2 workings to compliment each other a little.
What do you guys think? Is there some way that I could use the earth element and Jupiter's energy too?

[Abdiyel]

I am going out on a limb here to try and answer you to the best of my knowledge. I do get the picture that you are asking for money purely for the sake of eliminating poverty, to lead the good live, thence your petition for easy money. Re-evaluate your situation and your motives. It is far better to ask for financial assistance to do something in return. E.g. Ask for finances to open a shop that specializes in supplying {even if you have to make them yourself} black candles, statues, altars, chalices, etc with free meditation classes every morning on the side. You get the shop, you get a job by running the store which means you receive and you make a sacrifice of gratitude to Him for all He gave you.
I have never heard of anyone who received easy money simply because they did not want to be in poverty any longer. He gives and you by hard work and dedication increase what He gave, that is prosperity in action.

[Aquarius]

Are you vibrating fehu just 9 times? no shit your not getting results....
Start vibrating it 111 times (111 is a number that connects to 666 which is the number of the sun and fehu's number is 1 so it connects to any number) then affirm your affirmation.

[FancyMancy]

Yeah, 9 is not enough by far. More than 20 is good but 108 or 216 (high multiples of 9, but 108 being a specific power number) is excellent. 40-day workings (or 80 or 90) should be done. Another important point is to make sure your working is possible Physically - it's either extremely unlikely, or impossible, that you will receive money out of nowhere. Your favourite rich aunt/uncle could die and leave you a wad of cash, or whatever - would you want that?! Add "In a safe, positive, happy manner for me" (or similar words which you prefer) to your affirmation. As for making it possible Physically - you'll have to go looking for a job... That could mean having to use one or more other Runes, as well, such as GEBO.

8 is eternity, and 9 is permanence for ending things, so you can decide to do multiples of the Rune number, multiples of 8, or multiples of 9 vibrations of the Runes. Numbers for your affirmation/s could be either 8 or 9 - there's no need to do multiples of the affirmations; it's the Runes which need higher multiples than 9.

Using elements is advanced, and must be done carefully in case a backlash of the opposite element strikes you. You could also try empowering your Solar Chakra - it is the powerhouse of the Soul, and is important for your power and abilities. "Here is the chakra one uses to impress one’s will when working witchcraft." Empowering that, and then, for example shooting your Solar Plexus 666 Chakra's energy out into your Aura, to fill your Aura, could help. Programming your Aura, as you said, helps in things.

You're on the right lines but need a bit of better direction - so don't give up!

[RoseQuartz]

U should free ur self from saturn effects of u by vibrating ANSUS (most powerful form is in iclandic: Aus. AAA.UUUUUUUU.SSSSSSSSS) from HPS Maxine CD on vibrating runes of power.

However, vibrate AUS 216 times at the same time each day without skiping any day then affirm:
I'm completely, constantly and continuesly, free from poverty and All of it's forms, ties, and vows from my this life and related past lives.
I'm completely, permanently free to have large amounts of money and richs, in a very positive safe and joyful way for me.

Father Satan told me to do 216 morning and other 216 at night. He also told me I'll have to repeate it to 3 or 4 months to set my self free of this ill. It depends on how karma goes deep.

Additional things:
U should do hatha yoga or meditation before the above to strengthen ur work. As by doing the above ull free ur self from saturn.

U should have strong solar 3Rd chakra in order to be rich or at least to get money in an easy way, use Satan's Magical Squares of the sun to empower it, runes, daily breaths of energy.

U should totally know that u deserve a happy and joyful life filled with everything u want. Some illness of past life like the programs of death might convinced u into thinking u r worthless and have no value of ur life. This might affected u in ur childhood too.
I'll post a link it can explain a lot to ur situation.

[Stormblood]

From what I remember, 10 is the number related to the material sphere and money/properties. In fact, we use it in two of the newest RTRs. So I'd advise that. Either with the affirmations and/or multiples of your chosen mantra/rune.

One thing I see neglected here is this: you also need to empower your aura's ability to attract wealth. Otherwise, it will be a long time before you can see any benefit from money spells. You mentioned extreme poverty. This means your aura is very weak at attracting wealth. You need to strengthen this ability.

One more thing I can suggest - this time optional or alternative to the money spell - is strengthening your second house, which rules wealth and possessions. This can be done through a sun square.

[AncientShadow666]

U should free ur self from saturn effects of u by vibrating ANSUS (most powerful form is in iclandic: Aus. AAA.UUUUUUUU.SSSSSSSSS) from HPS Maxine CD on vibrating runes of power.

However, vibrate AUS 216 times at the same time each day without skiping any day then affirm:
I'm completely, constantly and continuesly, free from poverty and All of it's forms, ties, and vows from my this life and related past lives.
I'm completely, permanently free to have large amounts of money and richs, in a very positive safe and joyful way for me.

Father Satan told me to do 216 morning and other 216 at night. He also told me I'll have to repeate it to 3 or 4 months to set my self free of this ill. It depends on how karma goes deep.

Additional things:
U should do hatha yoga or meditation before the above to strengthen ur work. As by doing the above ull free ur self from saturn.

U should have strong solar 3Rd chakra in order to be rich or at least to get money in an easy way, use Satan's Magical Squares of the sun to empower it, runes, daily breaths of energy.

U should totally know that u deserve a happy and joyful life filled with everything u want. Some illness of past life like the programs of death might convinced u into thinking u r worthless and have no value of ur life. This might affected u in ur childhood too.
I'll post a link it can explain a lot to ur situation.

it is ANSUZ and it is not vibrated as AUS but AAA OOO SSS and O is like in the word THOTH

just correcting

[AncientShadow666]

Yeah, 9 is not enough by far. More than 20 is good but 108 or 216 (high multiples of 9, but 108 being a specific power number) is excellent. 40-day workings (or 80 or 90) should be done. Another important point is to make sure your working is possible Physically - it's either extremely unlikely, or impossible, that you will receive money out of nowhere. Your favourite rich aunt/uncle could die and leave you a wad of cash, or whatever - would you want that?! Add "In a safe, positive, happy manner for me" (or similar words which you prefer) to your affirmation. As for making it possible Physically - you'll have to go looking for a job... That could mean having to use one or more other Runes, as well, such as GEBO.

8 is eternity, and 9 is permanence for ending things, so you can decide to do multiples of the Rune number, multiples of 8, or multiples of 9 vibrations of the Runes. Numbers for your affirmation/s could be either 8 or 9 - there's no need to do multiples of the affirmations; it's the Runes which need higher multiples than 9.

Using elements is advanced, and must be done carefully in case a backlash of the opposite element strikes you. You could also try empowering your Solar Chakra - it is the powerhouse of the Soul, and is important for your power and abilities. "Here is the chakra one uses to impress one’s will when working witchcraft." Empowering that, and then, for example shooting your Solar Plexus 666 Chakra's energy out into your Aura, to fill your Aura, could help. Programming your Aura, as you said, helps in things.

You're on the right lines but need a bit of better direction - so don't give up!

so let me think if i got it right about the number 9... so it is for permanence but also for ending things, while 8 is FOR ETERNITY... sooo lets say i use 9 in some of the workings, it means it is permanent UNTIL I DECIDE it should end?... while 8 is for eternity it should be chosen carefully i asume... OOOORRR am i talking crap right now?

[FancyMancy]

so let me think if i got it right about the number 9... so it is for permanence but also for ending things, while 8 is FOR ETERNITY... sooo lets say i use 9 in some of the workings, it means it is permanent UNTIL I DECIDE it should end?... while 8 is for eternity it should be chosen carefully i asume... OOOORRR am i talking crap right now?

Lol. 8 is for eternity, everlasting, non-stop; 9 is for ending something permanently.

I clearly remember that in the other forum Lydia said that 8 is a good number for eternity but for positive things, while 9 is for ending, so because of this now i use 8 for my chakras and anything positive, so you are right, for the other numbers i think you are right too..i've read them many times in the other forum..

Because each of us are individuals, you have to fine-tune it to and for yourself. An example of this could be, but might not be necessarily, that you do a 9-thing for ending loneliness, but then after 40 days you do an 8-thing for eternal love with a Soulmate. Again - that's just an example; maybe you are not very lonely, so you could just do an 8-working for love for 40 days... Fine-tune if for yourself.

[Stormblood]

9 is also a forceful number. It's related to warrior-like energies.

[FancyMancy]

9 is also a forceful number. It's related to warrior-like energies.

Oooh. I think that's the first time I've read that.

[Stormblood]

9 is also a forceful number. It's related to warrior-like energies.

Oooh. I think that's the first time I've read that.

Well, it's directly from my numerology report lol It's related to Mars-type energies. So energy, vitality, competitiveness as well. Rushing. Creative, masculine energies.

[Gerecht Ror]

In case useful, I remind about this topic where I discussed some obstacles to money earning improvement :
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=977

[AncientShadow666]

so let me think if i got it right about the number 9... so it is for permanence but also for ending things, while 8 is FOR ETERNITY... sooo lets say i use 9 in some of the workings, it means it is permanent UNTIL I DECIDE it should end?... while 8 is for eternity it should be chosen carefully i asume... OOOORRR am i talking crap right now?

Lol. 8 is for eternity, everlasting, non-stop; 9 is for ending something permanently.

I clearly remember that in the other forum Lydia said that 8 is a good number for eternity but for positive things, while 9 is for ending, so because of this now i use 8 for my chakras and anything positive, so you are right, for the other numbers i think you are right too..i've read them many times in the other forum..

Because each of us are individuals, you have to fine-tune it to and for yourself. An example of this could be, but might not be necessarily, that you do a 9-thing for ending loneliness, but then after 40 days you do an 8-thing for eternal love with a Soulmate. Again - that's just an example; maybe you are not very lonely, so you could just do an 8-working for love for 40 days... Fine-tune if for yourself.

ok sooo...while i was using 9 in my AoP.... it is good right? because it ends illness, curses and such? because i healed myself from life long alergies that f**ked me up 2 times per year where i couldnt breath for 2 weeks, i never done any specific healing working, i only started to do 216 days AoP with suryae 108 times + 9 affirmation AND 15 algiz, 16 saulo, 18 berkano + 9 affirmation.... and i healed them BOTH OF THEM, this year 2017 is the first in my life i didnt had them.... but what would it be if i used 8 ? because now im using 8 because im doing a new AoP: part 1---> x1satanas, x1 aum, x15 aulgiz, x16 saulo, x1aum, x1satanas + 8 affirmation, part 2---> x4satanas x88 aum suryae x4 satanas + 8 affirmation, part 3---> x1 satanas x1aum x18 bjarkan x1aum x1satanas + 8 affirmation..... i mean i use it so that i have eternal protection which has even been recomended, i have it from some topic here, i dont know who posted it if it was lydia or one of our high priests, but its definitely here on the forum somewhere....

so im kinda confused when it comes to AoP... if 9 or 8 is good/bad/better or is it just individual?...

9 is also a forceful number. It's related to warrior-like energies.

Oooh. I think that's the first time I've read that.

Well, it's directly from my numerology report lol It's related to Mars-type energies. So energy, vitality, competitiveness as well. Rushing. Creative, masculine energies.

hmmm that explains my recent behavior....

[FancyMancy]

ok sooo...while i was using 9 in my AoP.... it is good right?
...
and i healed them BOTH OF THEM, this year 2017 is the first in my life i didnt had them.

Well, yeah, if it worked, lol.

but what would it be if i used 8 ?

As we say, we are individuals, so you have to fine-tune it for yourself. I think you might be starting to over-think it a bit now! If you've done it and it has worked with 9, then what I might do, so you can take this as an example, is to do an 8-working for 40 days (or 80 or 90...) for that problem specifically to remain healthy from it for 8 - eternity/infinity. Although, AoP (and AC and CC) should be done every day, regardless. Just the other day, I found a post I made regarding protection -

https://i.imgur.com/zhhNW2S.png The picture is a bit long in height (so I suppose tall!) so I have just linked to it.
You could also use that.

[AncientShadow666]

ok sooo...while i was using 9 in my AoP.... it is good right?
...
and i healed them BOTH OF THEM, this year 2017 is the first in my life i didnt had them.

Well, yeah, if it worked, lol.

but what would it be if i used 8 ?

As we say, we are individuals, so you have to fine-tune it for yourself. I think you might be starting to over-think it a bit now! If you've done it and it has worked with 9, then what I might do, so you can take this as an example, is to do an 8-working for 40 days (or 80 or 90...) for that problem specifically to remain healthy from it for 8 - eternity/infinity. Although, AoP (and AC and CC) should be done every day, regardless. Just the other day, I found a post I made regarding protection -

https://i.imgur.com/zhhNW2S.png The picture is a bit long in height (so I suppose tall!) so I have just linked to it.
You could also use that.

thanks fancy mancy kisses

[NaziMan12]

https://web.archive.org/web/20170301125 ... -Power.htm

A very effective working for money is as follows:

Recite a Satanic Rosary every day for 40 days straight, using the mantra:
AUM SHRIM MAHA LAKSHMIYEI SWAHA
AH-UU-MM SH-REE-M MAH-HAH LAHK-SHMEE-YAY-EE SVAH-AH

Begin this working when the moon is waxing, preferably when in the signs of Taurus, Cancer, Leo, or Sagittarius. In extreme cases, this working may have to be repeated more than once.

Following the rosary, visualize yourself with money in your hands and plenty of it, while engulfing yourself in brilliant white-gold light, and also the light on the money. Then affirm 9 times:

"I am attracting to myself extremely large amounts of free and easy money. This money is all mine to keep or to spend as I please."

Note: Don't expect a heap of money all at once. You financial situation should improve gradually with this meditation and over time.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170301125 ... -Power.htm

[luis]

https://web.archive.org/web/20170301125 ... -Power.htm

A very effective working for money is as follows:

Recite a Satanic Rosary every day for 40 days straight, using the mantra:
AUM SHRIM MAHA LAKSHMIYEI SWAHA
AH-UU-MM SH-REE-M MAH-HAH LAHK-SHMEE-YAY-EE SVAH-AH

Begin this working when the moon is waxing, preferably when in the signs of Taurus, Cancer, Leo, or Sagittarius. In extreme cases, this working may have to be repeated more than once.

Following the rosary, visualize yourself with money in your hands and plenty of it, while engulfing yourself in brilliant white-gold light, and also the light on the money. Then affirm 9 times:

"I am attracting to myself extremely large amounts of free and easy money. This money is all mine to keep or to spend as I please."

Note: Don't expect a heap of money all at once. You financial situation should improve gradually with this meditation and over time.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170301125 ... -Power.htm

You should add 'in a positive way for me' here "I am attracting to myself extremely large amounts of free and easy money. This money is all mine to keep or to spend as I please."

[Victory of satan]

https://web.archive.org/web/20170301125 ... -Power.htm

A very effective working for money is as follows:

Recite a Satanic Rosary every day for 40 days straight, using the mantra:
AUM SHRIM MAHA LAKSHMIYEI SWAHA
AH-UU-MM SH-REE-M MAH-HAH LAHK-SHMEE-YAY-EE SVAH-AH

Begin this working when the moon is waxing, preferably when in the signs of Taurus, Cancer, Leo, or Sagittarius. In extreme cases, this working may have to be repeated more than once.

Following the rosary, visualize yourself with money in your hands and plenty of it, while engulfing yourself in brilliant white-gold light, and also the light on the money. Then affirm 9 times:

"I am attracting to myself extremely large amounts of free and easy money. This money is all mine to keep or to spend as I please."

Note: Don't expect a heap of money all at once. You financial situation should improve gradually with this meditation and over time.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170301125 ... -Power.htm

Naziman, this is the ritual I've been doing for 40 days, but I've read the italian PDF(I'm Italian) in the Satan's library of this money spell, and I read it was without the "AUM"at the beginning of the mantra, so it was just "shrim mahaa lahksmiyey swaha", is it still effective? Or I have to start this spell again? Tomorrow will be the 40th day of the spell, I've started it on 3rd November, if this is not effective can I just keep doing the spell but with "aum" at the beginning of the mantra?

[Stormblood]

https://web.archive.org/web/20170301125 ... -Power.htm

A very effective working for money is as follows:

Recite a Satanic Rosary every day for 40 days straight, using the mantra:
AUM SHRIM MAHA LAKSHMIYEI SWAHA
AH-UU-MM SH-REE-M MAH-HAH LAHK-SHMEE-YAY-EE SVAH-AH

Begin this working when the moon is waxing, preferably when in the signs of Taurus, Cancer, Leo, or Sagittarius. In extreme cases, this working may have to be repeated more than once.

Following the rosary, visualize yourself with money in your hands and plenty of it, while engulfing yourself in brilliant white-gold light, and also the light on the money. Then affirm 9 times:

"I am attracting to myself extremely large amounts of free and easy money. This money is all mine to keep or to spend as I please."

Note: Don't expect a heap of money all at once. You financial situation should improve gradually with this meditation and over time.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170301125 ... -Power.htm

Naziman, this is the ritual I've been doing for 40 days, but I've read the italian PDF(I'm Italian) in the Satan's library of this money spell, and I read it was without the "AUM"at the beginning of the mantra, so it was just "shrim mahaa lahksmiyey swaha", is it still effective? Or I have to start this spell again? Tomorrow will be the 40th day of the spell, I've started it on 3rd November, if this is not effective can I just keep doing the spell but with "aum" at the beginning of the mantra?

It's less powerful without the AUM, but still effective. You can add the AUM and keep going, as long as you don't drop it later. It appears the Italian version needs revision. The one in charge for Italian translations is Gerecht Ror. Give him a heads up on this and hope he doesn't act "holier than thou", claim Satan himself gave him the translation job, starts calling a Jew, blocks your answers, etc.

[Victory of satan]

https://web.archive.org/web/20170301125 ... -Power.htm

A very effective working for money is as follows:

Recite a Satanic Rosary every day for 40 days straight, using the mantra:
AUM SHRIM MAHA LAKSHMIYEI SWAHA
AH-UU-MM SH-REE-M MAH-HAH LAHK-SHMEE-YAY-EE SVAH-AH

Begin this working when the moon is waxing, preferably when in the signs of Taurus, Cancer, Leo, or Sagittarius. In extreme cases, this working may have to be repeated more than once.

Following the rosary, visualize yourself with money in your hands and plenty of it, while engulfing yourself in brilliant white-gold light, and also the light on the money. Then affirm 9 times:

"I am attracting to myself extremely large amounts of free and easy money. This money is all mine to keep or to spend as I please."

Note: Don't expect a heap of money all at once. You financial situation should improve gradually with this meditation and over time.

https://web.archive.org/web/20170301125 ... -Power.htm

Naziman, this is the ritual I've been doing for 40 days, but I've read the italian PDF(I'm Italian) in the Satan's library of this money spell, and I read it was without the "AUM"at the beginning of the mantra, so it was just "shrim mahaa lahksmiyey swaha", is it still effective? Or I have to start this spell again? Tomorrow will be the 40th day of the spell, I've started it on 3rd November, if this is not effective can I just keep doing the spell but with "aum" at the beginning of the mantra?

It's less powerful without the AUM, but still effective. You can add the AUM and keep going, as long as you don't drop it later. It appears the Italian version needs revision. The one in charge for Italian translations is Gerecht Ror. Give him a heads up on this and hope he doesn't act "holier than thou", claim Satan himself gave him the translation job, starts calling a Jew, blocks your answers, etc.

Thanks stormblood, sorry i didn't replied, anyway the version without the aum is in the English version too

[Ignisalas]

From what I remember, 10 is the number related to the material sphere and money/properties. In fact, we use it in two of the newest RTRs. So I'd advise that. Either with the affirmations and/or multiples of your chosen mantra/rune.

One thing I see neglected here is this: you also need to empower your aura's ability to attract wealth. Otherwise, it will be a long time before you can see any benefit from money spells. You mentioned extreme poverty. This means your aura is very weak at attracting wealth. You need to strengthen this ability.

One more thing I can suggest - this time optional or alternative to the money spell - is strengthening your second house, which rules wealth and possessions. This can be done through a sun square.

How exactly do I use a Sun square to strengthen my 2nd house? I don't even know how to do planetary squares, and should I use some kind of affirmation with it?

[luis]

From what I remember, 10 is the number related to the material sphere and money/properties. In fact, we use it in two of the newest RTRs. So I'd advise that. Either with the affirmations and/or multiples of your chosen mantra/rune.

One thing I see neglected here is this: you also need to empower your aura's ability to attract wealth. Otherwise, it will be a long time before you can see any benefit from money spells. You mentioned extreme poverty. This means your aura is very weak at attracting wealth. You need to strengthen this ability.

One more thing I can suggest - this time optional or alternative to the money spell - is strengthening your second house, which rules wealth and possessions. This can be done through a sun square.

How exactly do I use a Sun square to strengthen my 2nd house? I don't even know how to do planetary squares, and should I use some kind of affirmation with it?

Have you read all JOS? Because i'm sure that all of this is write there. Don't get offended but this kind of question are too newbey. Go to read this http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... Steps.html and read ALL the other pages and if you don't understand something we will help you, by the way if you don't have open your chakras and you are not following a program of meditations you can't do the squares.

[Stormblood]

From what I remember, 10 is the number related to the material sphere and money/properties. In fact, we use it in two of the newest RTRs. So I'd advise that. Either with the affirmations and/or multiples of your chosen mantra/rune.

One thing I see neglected here is this: you also need to empower your aura's ability to attract wealth. Otherwise, it will be a long time before you can see any benefit from money spells. You mentioned extreme poverty. This means your aura is very weak at attracting wealth. You need to strengthen this ability.

One more thing I can suggest - this time optional or alternative to the money spell - is strengthening your second house, which rules wealth and possessions. This can be done through a sun square.

How exactly do I use a Sun square to strengthen my 2nd house? I don't even know how to do planetary squares, and should I use some kind of affirmation with it?

Have you read all JOS? Because I'm sure that all of this is written there. Don't get offended but this kind of question is too newbie. Go to read this http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... Steps.html and read ALL the other pages and if you don't understand something we will help you, by the way, if you don't have your chakras open and you are not following a program of meditations you can't do the squares.

I concur with luis.

Also, if you don't know what my advice means, then you probably should wait till you know fully about that, before even trying applying it. Kabbalistic squares are very advanced magick. Since you still don't know beginner stuff, it'd be better to avoid them for the time being. Either way, below are two additional links.

Squares - info page: https://web.archive.org/web/20150827054 ... uares.html
Sun Square's page: http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... quare.html

Just because you are at a beginner level, it doesn't mean you can't read those and try to understand their usage.