Third sex people - a question on marriage and children

[Stormblood]

Now, I don't know if this was addressed earlier. I tried in the past looking for the stance of the JoS on this, but didn't find anything.

My question is this: in an NS kingdom will we third sex people allowed to marry, if we wish to do so? Will we allowed to raise children, either adopted or born from outside relationships with consenting people?

If this was already addressed, can someone make me the courtesy of leaving links to earlier discussions?

[luis]

You can find every informations for us third sex people here http://gbltthulesociety666.angelfire.com/about/ and is done by HP Jake Carlson who is third sex too. But shortily yes we can marry and children Will be rised only by straight and bisexual people. Read that site and you'll understand everything

[Lydia]

HP Jake has mentioned in the past in the Black Sun yahoo group, yes to marriage, but he has mentioned that gay couples should not have children, as it is not in their natural role. This was some years ago so I can't link it, but perhaps another member of clergy can give input. [Note: this is what a member of clergy wrote, so don't hate on me if you don't agree. I'm talking to anyone else reading this, not you Stormblood ]

I do want to point out, regarding adoption, in the ancient times people didn't go around adopting random children. They only adopted children related to them, or the child of a best friend who died, for example. When one adopts, you have to consider your own family karma, and that of the child. Many adoptions are complete fails, due to the parent/s adopting a child who clashes horribly with their own family. Adoption can be a wonderful and positive experience for both child and parent, but it can also go horribly wrong to the unwise. Anyone looking into adoption should do a working and/or ask the Gods for guidance, as this is an incredibly major event.

[Lydia]

Actually I just remembered that HP Jake had changed his stance in more recent posts, stating that the 3rd sex will be encouraged to reproduce. I'm not sure if he was saying that they will not raise the children, however.

[Stormblood]

Thank you for your answers, Lydia. I will check the Black Sun yahoo group to see what I can find there about this.

You pointed some interesting things out about adoption that I hadn't considered before and they do make sense. I remember someone saying that third sex people should be asked to sacrifice and help replenish the ranks of the Gentile kingdoms, but I think this was related to the losses the Gentile races are going to have (i.e. people for whom is too late to convert, racial traitors, people with the meekness gene). I don't want to say nonsense, though.

[FancyMancy]

Actually I just remembered that HP Jake had changed his stance in more recent posts, stating that the 3rd sex will be encouraged to reproduce. I'm not sure if he was saying that they will not raise the children, however.

Well, why can't homosexuals, and bisexuals, marry and adopt/reproduce? If by "natural role" the meaning is "societal/social acceptance" then who are other people in society and social areas to say that homosexuals & bisexuals mustn't marry and adopt/reproduce? I've been led to believe that homosexual energy is more powerful than heterosexual energy, and is very creative. Straight couples have straight and bi and gay babies; homosexual couples also have thrm (and of course, bisexual couples also have them).

Is this "third-sex being encouraged to reproduce" this "sacrifice" that third-sex people would be asked to perform, which I read about before?

[Lydia]

@Fancy- homosexual, not bisexual. As for "natural role", where does the word natural come from? Nature. Not social etc. And I did say that he said homosexuals can marry, you skipped that part.

He wrote that homosexuals should not raise children as it is not in their natural role. I should have specified gay instead of writing 3rd sex.

And no, homosexual energy is not more powerful than heterosexual energy. That doesn't even make sense.

[FancyMancy]

Surely some homosexuals would still have children, though - unless there is a direct link of homosexuality and the want/need to have children either by offspring and/or adoption.

[AncientShadow666]

i think it is about the child having both mother and father instead of father father and mother mother... sure we can say that homosexuals which choose to reproduce can work together with the man they chose to reproduce to raise a child if that could work for some of them.... i mean it could be possible for some but not all.... i mean you dont need to break the relation with the child, you can still be friends with the family which would adopt your child and raise it in a best way possible, and you can still be present in the childs life, i mean if that would be case with me, i would just walk away or something, i would still check in to see if the child is alright and happy....

[AncientShadow666]

i think it is about the child having both mother and father instead of father father and mother mother... sure we can say that homosexuals which choose to reproduce can work together with the man they chose to reproduce to raise a child if that could work for some of them.... i mean it could be possible for some but not all.... i mean you dont need to break the relation with the child, you can still be friends with the family which would adopt your child and raise it in a best way possible, and you can still be present in the childs life, i mean if that would be case with me, i would just walk away or something, i would still check in to see if the child is alright and happy....

i wouldnt just walk away or something

sorry for the mistake i sometimes write to fast

[FancyMancy]

i think it is about the child having both mother and father instead of father father and mother mother

Yeah. I think that's what Lydia was meaning.

It makes sense that if the Soul has a Male and Female aspect, and the Brain has a Male and Female side, then Children also require the same, in environment and upbringing.

[Stormblood]

If I ever have a child, I'm certainly not going to trust their mentoring to everyone else. I should be the one taking care of that and I think it's only natural to be so. Children take their genes from their parents. This means they inherit something, maybe a lot, from them. Knowing exactly what their skill-set is, parents are always the best qualified to teach their children. Not to mention I would want responsible children, that start helping around the house soon (like when they are 4 or 5). Also, that start meditating and doing yoga very soon, and that don't touch anything of Jewish electronics until at least puberty. I need them to be healthy and develop their senses. Like, for example, most people today don't have basic skills that our ancestors have: sense of direction, navigation, great memory, and many other basic skills that make employers skeptical about hiring millennials and the younger generations. This is entirely to blame to these factors: Jewish technology, abuse of it and exposition to it too soon, and of course to the Torah and biblical curses that reinforce any possible negative effect on the Gentiles from every source.

[FancyMancy]

If I ever have a child, I'm certainly not going to trust their mentoring to everyone else. I should be the one taking care of that and I think it's only natural to be so.

Exactly. These "professionals" are taught at length to be detached and cold and distant. How disgusting.