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What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Wed May 01, 2019 8:25 am

The situation is you can read numerous financial books on the subject but National Socialist was an adaptable financial system and not a 'fixed' system like Capitalism, from a linear perspective at least.

In the mind of National Socialists finances are a means to a way, and not the central organization of all life. Communists and Jews in regards to that that, since the "Money value" is produced by the Goyim, it is meaningless when the Goyim have it, and it gains full meaning when it is on the hands of a jew.

Many people constantly say that the jew loves money, but the jew also trashes the value of money. When it is on the hands of his enemies, he becomes a "Socialist" that dictates to give it away - when he holds it, he becomes the Communist that owns it all. This is because the value of money is created by the working people, to whom he does not really belong, nor in their national organic unity. He comes from outside, and his morality is that of an 'outsider'.

Jews author both the perspective of that "Money is meaningless and paper" and the perspective of "Money is the most important thing in the world". Communism supports the first ideal, and Capitalism the second. Tell me when you work everyday, don't you think your money has any CONTENT to it? For the productive people, money has a value in it, this is their sweat and efforts.

Such perception can only arise when you either get it all for free and you are ungrateful, or in the case of jews, swindle the Goyim for excessive amounts of money. Only a jew who has never grown a field will come to tell you that the 'field has no value, nor its fruit'.

Therefore it doesn't matter, they keep it "ideological". People who are idiotic and they try to say that "National Socialists followed this type of financial system" are fools. You cannot follow the same system during wartime, peace time, or during financial recession caused to you by external factors, such as was the turbulent case in National Socialist Germany. They do not understand what it all really means.

To put this in perspective, you can put "Capitalism" anywhere and you may end up with the "Capitalist state", same as "Socialism", and same as "Communism". These ideologies can be found on the mere promise of how 'wealth' will be distributed in a civilization, the prospects, and the lying promises involved. They are based on external, fiscal and financial figures and factors, or in the case of Communism just purely being a jewish bandit and stealing the wealth of other people.

However, there is no financial "Recipe" that gives birth to the National Socialist state or the rising of it. You cannot say "Oh, let's instate this financial methodology and people will turn magically Whiter, and families will spring to life, and degeneracy will just stop".

If you want to get a better idea study Keynesian economics, and Gottfried Feder, however, it would be a lie to say that "National Socialism was this" or "National Socialism was that" specifically. We hardly have any surviving and not monitoring writings about the National Socialists.

National Socialists went through three main phases: restoring a financially ruined country, a phase of mass development and stabilization (after the jews were out of the picture in the financial sector) and lastly war economy. You cannot have the same meal in all these situations.

Even those with academic passes who may try to find more knowledge, but most of it is second hand - it is interpretations of the National Socialists themselves, mostly with agenda of others - prove Hitler "a Capitalist", prove him "as almost a Communist", prove him as "a Socialist" for good or bad reasons. And that should be obviously pointless to people who understand what National Socialism is.

It's not a financial system. It's not a speculation system, or a system of investments. It is a system based on natural law and justice.

As Goebbels stated, the issues that National Socialism goes forth to undertake are not solvable through mere financial figures. Those who think of it like that, either do not understand it, or simply, they are Marxists ie, Communists. Communists believe that a mere "reformation" of the means of production or financial relations between people or "Classes" is enough to create a fake utopia. Socialists believe the same, and Capitalists also believe the very same. This is why said utopias do not arise under any of these systems for all.

National Socialism has no relation to this consciousness above. It is of a lower level.

Figures can only serve this ideal, not the other way around. And this is what the enemy hates about National Socialism. It does not draw it's power from a theory or from the coin, but from a higher source and reality. If it gained it's power from the coin, everything could be decided based on the will of the coin, or lack of the coin, and therefore fall prey to those who control this form of particular power.

Aristotle was asked in regards to one his essays on "Justice" about what is the "Just way" to distribute finances. Aristotle replied that "everyone gets their portion", and that this is justice. The athlete, he said, will get the required amount of ounces to compete. Clearly, this is not the same amount of food that a person that is 90 years old deserves. With this he answered the question in a simple way. None is however left to die.

It wasn't Communism, it wasn't Socialism, it wasn't Capitalism. People try to prove this always within this context either to vilify enemies or to bless themselves as being "Good guy Socialists", or "Evil Anti-Capitalist retrogressive Socialists" such as the it's claimed of many in present day America. And these people are biased and liars.

Why this is done is because if the National Socialist system was put on a 'financial context', it basically is far simpler things such as abolishing jewish and "External" ie, jewish control, and applying notions of justice, and not equality, as written above.

For example the left tries to portray Hitler as some sort of "Capitalist" without the name, and alternatively the right winger boomers they have made up the lie that "Hitler was a leftist socialist" to give credence to Capitalism, ie Hitler the evil socialist with the threatening ideals. Alternatively I have read Socialists and Communists writing about how "Hitler and his party were centering all the wealth to a financial elite class" and complain that Hitler ate "Caviar". These people are too biased to analyze Hitler and his ideals, so these cheap arguments are expected from the hungry bellies and the fools who write these things.

People for foolish temporal reasons have jumped on this debate, to try to gain traction and/or acceptance by already existing political parties or wings, but let me remind you of something: They will never accept Hitler even if you dress him with the "leftist" clothing, or the "right wing" clothing. Tell them anything you want, but they will never care, they are not for Hitler, they are not for Race, they are not for wellbeing of people, and above all, they are not for abolishing the control of the enemy onto this world.

If people believe that you have to prove Hitler was this or that to gain 'acceptance' from mutants like the Young Turks for his "Socialist Views" or "Goldman Sachs" becuase Hitler "applied forms of Capitalism to elevate the economy in rapid pace highs never seen before", then you must be really foolish or retarded. It's better these foolish opinions are kept to one's self.

Now from an academic point of view, due to lack of material it becomes increasingly difficult, but the historical reality is quite clear, that National Socialism was nothing else but National Socialism. There are hardly any direct sources from where one can draw verifiable conclusions (That is, from the very hand of the National Socialists themselves). You cannot really equate it or say it had even aspects from other ideologies because ironically, it practiced many of the no-go zones of other financial ideologies.

This is because of a simple reason. National Socialism is founded upon the well-being of the race, and a delicate balance on what we have available, realism, and the dream of manifesting our people in the greatest racial purity and power. It is based first on natural law and only third or fourth comes the importance of the "financial system" to base this upon.

Capitalists lose their hair when they are told that Hitler actually did put these poor and broken people on the street with state guidance back into jobs. How evil of the National Socialists to raise their beaten and hungry volk by instating their own debt-free currency, abolish usury, weird financial services with extreme risk for citizens, and disallow people to dwell in extreme, never ending poverty.

They name this "Socialism" but that is a lie. You can also try to name this "Capitalism with Welfare", whatever fits your bill. There is no financial motive or necessity to give credence to a financial "motivation" here by doing this. The reasons are purely racial. A National Socialist would simply call it "I care for my people despite of their level or financial creed".

Socialists lose their hair (and even many socialist tentative, and closeted "Communists" in Hitler's party which didn't understand the new ideology) when they are confronted with the fact that Hitler lived comfortably. Radical "Socialists" also were in opposition of the central bank. They believe it would be better people would hand leaflets of money in the street I guess, like Communists distribute chicken once a month.

Later, there were some complaints. Yes, he was also given later a Mansion. Yes, the NS had uniforms that costed closely a thousand even for the normal members. If a man succeeds in raising his civilization from an almost dead nation, to the world's most powerful nations, and you believe he deserves to live in a trailer, then you need to suicide because you are a communist nut.

Hitler was also on many occasions bashed over the fact he did not throw the rich on the street to "distribute their wealth" to the poor. Does by killing a star of one's own race, one create many stars, or do they just kill a star for no reason, to feed unproductive black holes, such as the "Socialists" who had these ideas?

In the National Socialist state, both the billionaire and the average person, do work to safeguard, protect, and elevate within the context of the same volk. The rich and the poor work together to create a better shared living condition, by a prohibition of the masters of the race for no abuse of either class towards the other.

Many people are of the stupid belief that the "poor" are entitled to the abuse of the "rich". Christians frequently believed they have a right to also victimize, rob, and robin hood the wealth of the "rich". The "rich" that organized them and did all sorts of other things are rendered meaningless in the eyes of these dumb individuals - alternatively, the rich also believe they have a right to overly abuse the poor, as the jews believe they have a right on the "cattle". Both these faces of this are totally incorrect and stem from talmudic understanding. This is typical Christianity.

When Rabbi Jesus came, he preached to destroy the "Rich", and against the "Rich" (because the rich were of course goyim back then, and not lazy jews who dwelled in the desert and created nothing). Then, he rose the "poor" against the "rich" in a perpetual war of false morals, to make society collapse. The first Communist revolt has started in the bible. What happened after this so called "poor against the rich"? The jews became the new rich, and they started abusing the eternal and, presently "equal" poor. Rabbi Jewsus laughs in this. Just look at the Vatican and who owns the world's wealth. The mafia first raised the plebians against their own people, and then it ruled the plebians, "all equal" in the exact same state of permanent abuse.

Have you heard many "socialists" complain about jews running the planet? And you will never do. Because they are interested only in the 'financial' aspect. It does not come by a historical coincidence, that this "Applied socialism" always takes out the rich Gentiles, and always gives amends to the rich jews. This is because it is owned by jews, run by jews, and controlled by jews. Alternatively, do you see many "Capitalists" making really rich or financially 'free and stable' many Gentiles?

The actual God of the White race, when he came around, in contrast to the Communist Shrieking of Rabbi Yeshua or Jewsus, he put the rich and the poor on the same table, and he told them to serve their own Volk, and to find the best ways to co-operate to the best of their abilities, no grudges asked. As a good father he drew bridges between his younger sons and his elder sons, with the same purpose of the family in mind.

A people of the same blood and of the same society, have nothing to divide, they must be put to work together. As such the abolishing of the "social class ideology" of the National Socialists. There was a world back then when the farmer was not hated by the teacher, and that the doctor didn't look at both of them as inferior, while the politician looked upon all of them as useless cattle. There was, once upon a time, a non-jew poisoned world.

The levels of financial ownership and levels of finances will always exist between people, in any form of wealth, literal, knowledge, luck, fortune, health, money (or whatever other currency form takes its place at any given time). National Socialism did not come to equalize, it came to harmonize.

Hitler deserved a huge mansion the size of football fields, not average joe down the street who spent his life drunk all the time and eventually 'woke up to the fact' that he has to do something meaningful because of the National Socialist state. But this man also deserved a second chance and a future. Each in their own way, have to be given what they deserve.

Those who think otherwise need to go hang themselves. Wealth should relate to the metaphysical and the physical importance of people, and not arbitrary "theories". A Pharaoh and literal reformer and re-establishes of a war torn country, will not live inside a trailer so these "Socialists" can be satisfied. He will not make decisions through a slum.

Financial modern ideologies based (or many times not even based) on financial theories, are based on fragmentation of societies through the perspective of the "social" or "financial classes", which is used as argument in all theories about to be "pro or against" a certain club or individual group in any society. One class has to be bolstered on the benefit of itself and against some other, and this is because jews find themselves in the need to bolster their own class, or boost themselves in order to effectively rule an alien populace.

Racially fragmented societies cannot have anything better than that, as there is no connection point for people to care about one another, so violence and carelessness are the only things to expect, and the manifestation of this into a financial system of either false compassion such as "Socialism" ("feed the alien migrants now, will you? Maduro did really well in Venezuela"), or systematic violence towards the poor which can happen frequently with Capitalism ("Oy vey, get private social insurance and if the company closes die on the street, your fault goy"), or Communism as in ("Gibs me dat goyim, we own 100% of wealth of your goyim nation and know we will evenly distribute it, lol kek, just go work on the gulag now and die in a disposable bag").

All our issues are consciousness and spiritual related, and above all, the race is the important motivation and basis factor to build better worlds. Until this understanding rises, people will only be plagued by suffering, and happiness will be only a selective visitor to the doors of a few. For better or for worse, this is how it is.

The deeper humans go down the alleys of unnatural living, the more rises the demand of pseudo political solutions: "How to elevate compassion through weed?". I will tell you how you elevate compassion: By living among your own people and your own tribe with a common mission.

Financial measures will never solve this problem.

Giving people free money or taking it all away won't solve this problem, drugs will not solve this problem, turning the people into microchipped borgs will not solve this problem; Only Racial Consciousness will solve this problem.

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby Aquarius » Wed May 01, 2019 9:27 am

All the commies care about is their free money to buy weed, nothing else really.
Quando la Dea delle sventure mi abbracciò e spesso minacciò di schiacciarmi, la volontà di resistere crebbe, e infine quella volontà fu vittoriosa.

When the Goddess of trouble embraced me and often threatened to crush me, the will to resist grew, and at last that will was victorious.

Adolf Hitler

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Wed May 01, 2019 10:51 am

Aquarius wrote:All the commies care about is their free money to buy weed, nothing else really.


Gibs me free money from people to buy weed cuz it's moral and will do many gr8 tings for humeenity.

U have to pay fo'dat or u aint compassionate!
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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby Eric13 » Wed May 01, 2019 11:00 am

Most excellent post HP, Thank you.

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP Mageson666 » Wed May 01, 2019 3:17 pm

The NS economic and financial system was listed in the 25 Points of the National Socialist Party. Its a labour based economy and the understanding that labour makes money valuable. Which is the total reversal of the principal of the Jewish monetary system, where the Jews lie and state money makes labour valuable and only money.

This is simple you can't plant money in the ground and grow food or build a house out of money or sit on a dollar bill and fly somewhere like a magic carpet.

Goods and services and their institutions and infrastructure is the actual economy. Money is given value by their existence and is a medium of exchange for them. Money is used as energy to help in their creation but without them money has no value.

The National Socialists banned usury. The principal of usury is the reason we have nothing but problems, usury, monopoly, share holders, downing wages and shipping the jobs to the third world, artificial scarcity, criminal taxation, price fixing, inflation. Its based on the ideal of usury, which is the one immoral principal all Jewish thought is build on.....

THE STEALING OF THE FRUITS OF OTHER PEOPLES LABOUR.

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby Jack » Wed May 01, 2019 4:09 pm

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Wed May 01, 2019 5:03 pm

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Marx was a disgusting jew. He literally just borrowed money from all his "Friends" and never returned it, and he was a total financial ruin as far as he himself was concerned, purely a thief and nothing more. He had stolen from others in borrowed money the equals of millions on his time. When people asked him, even other jews, why he doesn't do any form of work, he always attacked them. He was that kind of parasite, even parasitic to his own parasitic tribe.

Then, this jew wrote a Gibs Me Dat Financial Program that justifies the Jew holding all the wealth the Goyim produce plus all the means of production, and even the humans themselves as "extension of the state" in it's pocket, so he can buy more boose and drugs. Naturally the jews saw this program favorably and went on wards to manifest it by gangsterism by force.

Gibs me dat for no labor is just a jewish invention, just parasitism in a financial form. The lazy jews ruling by violence on the top through a mafia state and stealing people is just Communism applied.

Marx was just a thief and he made his Torah and Talmud the thief spells into a financial ideology of being bandits and stealing all the goyim of all they are and do. Christianity robs the soul, Communism robs the body and the labor, all in full and total enslavement. A goy only existing to be milked and nothing more.

Apparently his "Job" was to hatch the most poisonous egg seen by mankind until his time. Then this shit hatched and off went the lives of hundreds of millions as if they didn't exist. Even today, the pest of Marxism is just raising it's kike head in every public assembly, academic space, and conversation.

All of that simply because of one dumb fucking kike. Another jew like Rabbi Christ who was promising people bullshit heavens, and stole what little earth they had and turned these into a living hell.

The jews give birth to deadly slimy eggs.
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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP Mageson666 » Wed May 01, 2019 8:05 pm

I don't believe Marx even wrote most of his own stuff, it was the other Jew, and guru of Marx's, Moses Hess that was from some reports the ghost writer of most of the Communist Manifesto. Marx pretended to be Gentile in public, they needed one of their own to use as the front man to channel the tribes scheme into the public with. Marx was a Frankist and was recruited into his tribes occult movement by Moses Hess. Marx called Moses Hess "The Red Rabbi."

Moses Hess is important to note, he was a major Zionist leader and he wrote in his own book that the goal of Zionism is to build a Jewish world government that will be ruled from a future Jewish state in the middle east. Its obvious how they intent to bring the world government around, that is the role of Communism. That is why Communism was built to be a globalist ideology and create a world with no boarders, nations, races or cultures but the Jewish one.

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby sunrise » Thu May 02, 2019 3:57 am

This is a wow type of sermon, well written, structured, documented; even if people normally avoid subjects about financial matters as they sound boring and tiring, you manage to make it easy for people to read and also easy to comprehend. You have an ease with words

I would have also other things to add but in lack of proper time, I would mention as you said something about the expensive uniforms, just that indeed the SS uniforms were a piece of art literally, exquisite, impeccably made, even in the jewish designers' acceptance. Totally worth the price

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby ConsistentMeditator » Thu May 02, 2019 7:14 am

HP Mageson666 wrote:This is simple you can't plant money in the ground and grow food or build a house out of money or sit on a dollar bill and fly somewhere like a magic carpet.

Goods and services and their institutions and infrastructure is the actual economy. Money is given value by their existence and is a medium of exchange for them. Money is used as energy to help in their creation but without them money has no value.

The National Socialists banned usury. The principal of usury is the reason we have nothing but problems, usury, monopoly, share holders, downing wages and shipping the jobs to the third world, artificial scarcity, criminal taxation, price fixing, inflation. Its based on the ideal of usury, which is the one immoral principal all Jewish thought is build on.....

THE STEALING OF THE FRUITS OF OTHER PEOPLES LABOUR.


Great post. Usury is essentially just infinite human suffering built into the system by default. Can't have everyone pay off their loans if the total amount of money to be paid back, including the interest, does not exist in the monetary supply, and there is vastly more debt to be paid off than there is money to pay it with. It sure does steal the fruits of people's labor, and ultimately is just a force of destruction acting on the society to cause many foreclosures and put lots of people on the street.

While as HP Cobra pointed out, a debt free currency is the opposite as long as you orient it towards a goal of an improved society. Instead of destroying wealth and turning it into a few numbers in some Jew's bank accounts, it creates real physical wealth, AKA, scientific efficiency and advancement, material resources, a healthy populace, an intelligent populace, where prosperity is increasing across the board. Hitler started making Germany self sufficient in all sorts of areas because of the economic sanctions the Jews imposed and was putting it quickly towards the space age. What would happen if many nations did the same on a global level? Well, they would turn the system towards actually solving problems for people in the real world and making both the infrastructure of society and simply the people themselves superior. Like if everybody both got what they needed to function at their peak performance, while it became simply illegal for housing companies to en-mass produce inferior housing that will systemically cause problems, or inferior food which less intelligent people are lulled into consuming and becoming obese on, or giving medical treatment which is designed to kill people or only treat a disease rather than curing it, and so on.

But no, according to the Jews, it must be an evil Nazi action to even consider removing some of the filth that is inherent in the way the modern market society works, and instead aim for something as simple as increasing the quality of life for the population so that as many people as possible are healthy, intelligent, drug-free, physically fit, and in a proper position to faciliate their further growth and increasing efficiency as individuals, while individual communities/towns also seek to become more effective at achieving their needs, and so on, up to the national level.

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby Gear88 » Thu May 02, 2019 8:02 am

https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2953&p=17048

Thanks to member Jack the Good Guy for this. Apparently they shoa'd Feder's manifesto on archive.org. But JtGG's download has his manifesto. Unfortunately my computer could not extract one file due to error: Collectivist Economic Planning.
:idea: National Socialism is not fascism, fascism is not National Socialism.

Why are we memetically assaulted into a lump labelled fascism. Do you, pinko, know what fascism really is :?:

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Thu May 02, 2019 11:38 am

People are like you have to take the jew Marx seriously. You question them why since he failed at anything. They point at his work and his bullshit castle on the heavens. Never really mattered, never did any good when it was attempted to be applied, because it can never be applied due to the contrast it has with human nature. All his sourcing was extremely academically dirty and he was known to be academically fraudlent.

Boiling down the jew Marx's theory his need for everyone to SHARE EVERYTHING and be compulsively enslaved into this idea of SHARING EQUALLY was simply the cockroach mindset of that jews like himself who do not produce any wealth by work of labor in any serious way, somehow all need to be treated equally with the people who do.

By SHARING EVERYTHING he could practice all his alien compulsions same as communists on the bills of other productive people.

If you are PRODUCTIVE in a society and you seek to produce you do not need to beg on mercy and bullshit morality to get what you need. You get it based on your PRODUCTIVE function. It's really that simple.

Marx was like oy vey means of production for all goy, but we jews aka the people own these. Get it? The people own this. Big lolz on you goy non human.
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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Thu May 02, 2019 11:44 am

You can turn a country into a shithole instantly just by applying Marx's doctrine. All the efforts of a people to build a civilization go down the drain in about one or two years.

The cliche argument is that yes, whenever this crap was applied, it ruined everything. And this is a true argument.

If you put your hand into the mouth of an alligator and he eats it, then you better stop. But dumb commies are so burned by weed they are like "Oh, let us sacrifice more countries to try to manifest Marx's filthy shit! After all Israel will be safe from it, lol".

The nihilism only to prove one jew correct and how far some idiots will go depsite reality just shows that Marxism is some sort of jewish religion all over again, and has nothing to do with any reality.
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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby Zammel » Thu May 02, 2019 2:18 pm

A question: in a NS country, everyone can rise (not only materially) I say, example if one has the gift ... hypothesis of the game desing, but does not have the possibility (or the ability) to learn to program, and therefore is his gift wasted? Or a writer or director, if we have a new Tolkien, or a new George Lucas, normally, I notice that if you don't have "help" you don't go anywhere. Normally (at least in Italy, but I also believe in you in USA / UK) if you do not have a friend, who has a friend who is in that sector (if you are a writer, publishing for example) you will hardly break through. In a NS country, is this already more feasible? In the sense would it be a true "American dream"? :?:

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Postby Gear88 » Thu May 02, 2019 7:25 pm

Zammel wrote:A question: in a NS country, everyone can rise (not only materially) I say, example if one has the gift ... hypothesis of the game desing, but does not have the possibility (or the ability) to learn to program, and therefore is his gift wasted? Or a writer or director, if we have a new Tolkien, or a new George Lucas, normally, I notice that if you don't have "help" you don't go anywhere. Normally (at least in Italy, but I also believe in you in USA / UK) if you do not have a friend, who has a friend who is in that sector (if you are a writer, publishing for example) you will hardly break through. In a NS country, is this already more feasible? In the sense would it be a true "American dream"? :?:


In NS society there is no divisible line between labor nor intellect. In simplest terms Everyone must work whether intellectually or labor. In fact the premise of class neutrality means that anyone can rise to any level. Perhaps some people might fall I mean you never know but there might be so much assistance that it's like falling into a bounce house your not ruined into poverty, like dupish systems of the enemies. Where failure means total annihilation. (((death to goyim cause MUH shekels))).

In fact theory crafting some NS principles of labor/intellect collusion of work. Both are needed one constructs the idea and the other constructs the product for the fruit of labor. So in essence both are needed even the most intellectual thinktank jobs where people are just coming up with ideas are needed. So yes Zammel everyone can rise no matter what route they take either the worker or the intellectual.

As a matter of fact Hitler's first forays into nation building were artistic renewal while designing the nation(autobahn natural impregnation with nature). I mean do you really want a Sackler Family Art building that looks like a soviet communist bloc building with degenerate art from people who shoved paint up their asses farted/shitted it out and call it "(((Muh equality artistry)))". I mean Hitler would probably go "Fire ze flammenwerfer at that degenerate art".

So simply Zammel as time would go on in a spiritual and assistive placement society it would make people love their job/career further in life and be in something wonderful so they are in the right places. And as society advances further in spirituality other job opportunities arise whereby people can change jobs or careers and learn outside of their specialty. Perhaps out of boredom or interest in other work fields. Some are perfect for a job but others might want to be like swiss army knives jack of all trades master of none.

So American dreams are well within possibilities it just takes time. Like H.P. Cobra stated in one of his sermons mankind is in the outbreak of cancer and it needs immediate surgery, treatment, and cure to return it back to normal before it's too late.
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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP Mageson666 » Thu May 02, 2019 7:41 pm

I have written extensive articles about this subject, and it comes down to this. When the Jews pulled the plug in 2008, it was a major injection of zero interest cash into the economy that brought things back. The reason the Jews do this is....because they know this is how you build society economically, then they start to slowly ratchet up the interest again creating the cycle of you make and they take what you make.

The Green Back Movement, was big in America in the 19th century this is where the German's got their economic idea's about debt free currency from. President Garfield was murdered by the tribe for supporting this movement. Every President ever murdered was killed by the tribe, mainly over the banking hustle. The Torah orders the Jews to use usury to take control of the Gentiles nations and make slaves of them.

Two things in history causes the Gentiles to rise up against the tribe, the ritual murder of Gentile children and the tribes criminal money schemes.


ConsistentMeditator wrote:Great post. Usury is essentially just infinite human suffering built into the system by default. Can't have everyone pay off their loans if the total amount of money to be paid back, including the interest, does not exist in the monetary supply, and there is vastly more debt to be paid off than there is money to pay it with. It sure does steal the fruits of people's labor, and ultimately is just a force of destruction acting on the society to cause many foreclosures and put lots of people on the street.

While as HP Cobra pointed out, a debt free currency is the opposite as long as you orient it towards a goal of an improved society. Instead of destroying wealth and turning it into a few numbers in some Jew's bank accounts, it creates real physical wealth, AKA, scientific efficiency and advancement, material resources, a healthy populace, an intelligent populace, where prosperity is increasing across the board. Hitler started making Germany self sufficient in all sorts of areas because of the economic sanctions the Jews imposed and was putting it quickly towards the space age. What would happen if many nations did the same on a global level? Well, they would turn the system towards actually solving problems for people in the real world and making both the infrastructure of society and simply the people themselves superior. Like if everybody both got what they needed to function at their peak performance, while it became simply illegal for housing companies to en-mass produce inferior housing that will systemically cause problems, or inferior food which less intelligent people are lulled into consuming and becoming obese on, or giving medical treatment which is designed to kill people or only treat a disease rather than curing it, and so on.

But no, according to the Jews, it must be an evil Nazi action to even consider removing some of the filth that is inherent in the way the modern market society works, and instead aim for something as simple as increasing the quality of life for the population so that as many people as possible are healthy, intelligent, drug-free, physically fit, and in a proper position to faciliate their further growth and increasing efficiency as individuals, while individual communities/towns also seek to become more effective at achieving their needs, and so on, up to the national level.

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby Sophie_ » Fri May 03, 2019 1:01 am

It seems to me that one can not force ethics on a population through National socialism or any other construct, perhaps through Education.

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri May 03, 2019 2:11 am

Sophie_ wrote:It seems to me that one can not force ethics on a population through National socialism or any other construct, perhaps through Education.


You definitely cannot, and this is correct. This is a subject on another upcoming topic. Either people evolve into something on their own or they do not. Those who have tried to enforce things have always failed. You cannot force shit like they do now with multiculturalism.
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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri May 03, 2019 3:59 am

When you borrow 1 dollar and you owe 3 dollars, as is the case now with the Fed in America and the current hidden interest rate (not the one yearly expressed, but the amount of what America owns through the dollar on the fed price), then you know you are under occupation. It's like a person is born and will on average generate let's say 10 million dollars of labor, owe 20 million due to invisible fed level taxation by default to even pay for external and internal national debts, one should think that something is really fucked up here.

And this is what usury does. The above is the stacking of decades, as the debt simply can never be, and never will be repaid, since any printed dollar only re-affirms the already high interest rate. The interest rate went from 3% to something which was like 70%, then 160%, and who knows the real number may be 300% right now in what "The American people owe to the Federal Reserve".

If people think this is normal then one has to be an idiot. Charging "interest" at like "everything people make plus 10% maximum", makes sense. You don't expect people to pay the 10% anyway, it's just there for figurative reasons, motivation to work and build the country. Your economy will grow by 3-5% by the returns and advancement, which is the percent the economies grows by anyway per year, it never crosses more than 10%.

Now when this is made all the way from 160% to 300% on a nation that prints it's own cash and gives nobody else word to the planet about it's printing, then you understand something is really off.

America is essentially by statistics bankrupt, but they can print their own currency, so they cannot go bankrupt so long this is the case. Similarly money could be fueled to revitalize the economy and bring it back to a normal standard but that is undesirable. People owning tremendous amounts of money is apparently desirable.
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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri May 03, 2019 4:07 am

ConsistentMeditator wrote:
HP Mageson666 wrote:This is simple you can't plant money in the ground and grow food or build a house out of money or sit on a dollar bill and fly somewhere like a magic carpet.

Goods and services and their institutions and infrastructure is the actual economy. Money is given value by their existence and is a medium of exchange for them. Money is used as energy to help in their creation but without them money has no value.

The National Socialists banned usury. The principal of usury is the reason we have nothing but problems, usury, monopoly, share holders, downing wages and shipping the jobs to the third world, artificial scarcity, criminal taxation, price fixing, inflation. Its based on the ideal of usury, which is the one immoral principal all Jewish thought is build on.....

THE STEALING OF THE FRUITS OF OTHER PEOPLES LABOUR.


Great post. Usury is essentially just infinite human suffering built into the system by default. Can't have everyone pay off their loans if the total amount of money to be paid back, including the interest, does not exist in the monetary supply, and there is vastly more debt to be paid off than there is money to pay it with. It sure does steal the fruits of people's labor, and ultimately is just a force of destruction acting on the society to cause many foreclosures and put lots of people on the street.

While as HP Cobra pointed out, a debt free currency is the opposite as long as you orient it towards a goal of an improved society. Instead of destroying wealth and turning it into a few numbers in some Jew's bank accounts, it creates real physical wealth, AKA, scientific efficiency and advancement, material resources, a healthy populace, an intelligent populace, where prosperity is increasing across the board. Hitler started making Germany self sufficient in all sorts of areas because of the economic sanctions the Jews imposed and was putting it quickly towards the space age. What would happen if many nations did the same on a global level? Well, they would turn the system towards actually solving problems for people in the real world and making both the infrastructure of society and simply the people themselves superior. Like if everybody both got what they needed to function at their peak performance, while it became simply illegal for housing companies to en-mass produce inferior housing that will systemically cause problems, or inferior food which less intelligent people are lulled into consuming and becoming obese on, or giving medical treatment which is designed to kill people or only treat a disease rather than curing it, and so on.

But no, according to the Jews, it must be an evil Nazi action to even consider removing some of the filth that is inherent in the way the modern market society works, and instead aim for something as simple as increasing the quality of life for the population so that as many people as possible are healthy, intelligent, drug-free, physically fit, and in a proper position to facilitate their further growth and increasing efficiency as individuals, while individual communities/towns also seek to become more effective at achieving their needs, and so on, up to the national level.


The idea of "debt" or "normal interest rate" is that it's something the person can repay you, as a token of "Thank you" when they get up on their feet, worth the risk you put for your money if you are an individual lending them. The state does think of the matter differently. In the case where you print your own money, you only care what they will produce for the real economy, so the interest rates are just superficiality to keep the person doing what they have chosen to do.

You're not expecting the money back, you are expecting their profitable business that will take care of a community's needs. So taxation and usury in that perspective or "interest rate" is only a modular thing and not something that you lose sleep over.

When this process of money management is too much on the hands of individuals who have more money than the state itself, then they can just lend anyone at whatever rate they think is correct, such as loan sharking.
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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby ConsistentMeditator » Fri May 03, 2019 5:48 am

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
ConsistentMeditator wrote:
HP Mageson666 wrote:....


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That doesn't change that if the state prints lots of interest-laden money, which then gets multiplied further by fractional reserve banking and once again loaned out at interest, there is going to be much more interest needing paid back than there is money in the money supply for everyone to pay it back with. So, it seems like a structural inevitability that with a debt-based currency, you're going to have a poor underclass getting hit with the weight of that impossible-to-pay interest. Essentially, to make an analogy, it seems like a game of musical chairs, where quite a large number of people are going to automatically fail by design.

I understand what you are saying about the basic idea behind interest in individual loans, but that only works if you have an implicit context where the goal of the exchange is to benefit both parties, and interest is just the 'stick' potentially used if one side doesn't meet their obligations. Not the situation we have now where banks will try to make people debt slaves for life, and interest in any country as a whole is always going to be much more than the amount of money there is available to pay it.

It would be easier to understand what you are saying if you would put it in context with how you actually think the currency should work in relation to interest. I can't tell if you agree with a debt-free currency like the Greenbacks based on what you just said. If you don't, I don't know just what type of interest rates in what situations are a good idea to you.

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri May 03, 2019 6:10 am

ConsistentMeditator wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
ConsistentMeditator wrote:
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That doesn't change that if the state prints lots of interest-laden money, which then gets multiplied further by fractional reserve banking and once again loaned out at interest, there is going to be much more interest needing paid back than there is money in the money supply for everyone to pay it back with. So, it seems like a structural inevitability that with a debt-based currency, you're going to have a poor underclass getting hit with the weight of that impossible-to-pay interest. Essentially, to make an analogy, it seems like a game of musical chairs, where quite a large number of people are going to automatically fail by design.

I understand what you are saying about the basic idea behind interest in individual loans, but that only works if you have an implicit context where the goal of the exchange is to benefit both parties, and interest is just the 'stick' potentially used if one side doesn't meet their obligations. Not the situation we have now where banks will try to make people debt slaves for life, and interest in any country as a whole is always going to be much more than the amount of money there is available to pay it.

It would be easier to understand what you are saying if you would put it in context with how you actually think the currency should work in relation to interest. I can't tell if you agree with a debt-free currency like the Greenbacks based on what you just said. If you don't, I don't know just what type of interest rates in what situations are a good idea to you.


Just re-read my reply above but take in consideration that the Fed is a private enterprise, which is falling closer to private banking. Within this context any form of debt is seen from the perspective of a private enterprise, and not a state that seeks to develop it's economy, but rather only slavery and maximum amount of profit. You are selling money in this context, and if you sell money over and over again even at small interest, this adds up.

The problem is that banks now are private, and therefore, they are only selling money, which is essentially deposited and borrowed, or given to them "For free" (for them, because in the American taxpayer it costs at this point about 1 dollar equals 2 dollars) by the central, and private money generation, which in ITSELF also has an interest rate on it by default. Ie, everything is based on the usury. They do not manage finances or use only state funds, but seek to make profit for themselves based on creating loans, creating debt etc.

This has nothing to do with a centralized financial institution run by the state, which only seeks a return, directly, and without money on money based interest. Taxation is based upon this return of true value through the medium of money. Then this is put down to create things that are useful for society.

I totally agree with the debt free currency. But interest rates at the 0-3% may be a necessity to keep an economy going. Not because you really expect to get the money back or care (Since you print it without any interest anyway), but as incentive to show people that if you just take the money and you squander and/or fail, there is going to be drawbacks from this.

This 0-3% can be transferred over to further printing of more money, in a sense, creating more money, and not stealing people from more money. You can also make a bond in this place, that is essentially a promise towards that government, but in a non immediate financially translated way. Either way this works.

You take a loan of 100 bucks, you give back to the state 103 bucks, and the state can then print more bucks to give someone else, in order to support the actual financial growth. This way you do not put people in debt, but actually make them richer. You fail to pay the 103 bucks, but someone else is demanding 103 bucks from the state or bank, so the situation comes down to the fact that someone else has to pay and/or the money has to be generated anew. This can only be done that far until you have financial problems. Alternatively, you make a bond that you have to re-pay, but is not immediately counted as interest.

The thing is the economy is not like a perfect system zero sum system, if you have studied economics you can see that. People may get a loan and fail at it, under-perform, make wrong estimates, what have you, or exceed all expectations. So to have a zero sum game where money is concerned is a really hard thing. So let's say you take 100,000 of a loan, but you fail to deliver the 100,000 straight outcome for a loan from your business or endeavor. Within this context interest within reason (this is not usury) is used as a guard to keep you motivated to do what you do.

This, if you play the game with a zero sum, leaves you with two options: throw your failure or burden to other people in the real economy (this is done in the US through taxation + what is owned to the fed) or devalue money, or reprint to fill the gap, all of which upsets the economy.

When shit goes too much out of control, you just reset the system and go over it again, which it doesn't even go to this level if you don't have systematic usury, you just reset. But now, systems like the American system cannot be 'reset' due to the supply of money and it's control being only on the hands of basically monitored individuals.
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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri May 03, 2019 6:28 am

When people say that the National Socialists had "debt free" currency, it's just that, debt free currency the moment it is printed, coming forth without extra added debt. In America every dollar comes in existence with debt, which is then demanded from the populace in a never ending cycle of debt and unreasonable (but also invisible) taxation. This manifests in linear economy as the trashing of wages. Illegal migration strains this even further.

Debt free currency is just debt free currency. It doesn't create huge numbers of demanded wealth or taxes from the citizens based on usury at the moment of printing just because it was printed, nor it is created in a private way. But there are other ways with which from economic growth extra money may be demanded, which is tied into the constant generation of the economy.

Debt free currency has nothing to do with interests on loans or other related things. This is step one and it got Jackson murdered. Lincoln even tried to make a non-private banking system, on top of the above attempt, and he also died. Public banking system is what the National Socialists had. They achieved what Jackson and Lincoln couldn't get done. Since they made it out alive and generated a land of paradise, they were mass murdered around a decade after this success.

The equation in this case would be 1 dollar = the amount of decided value of labor corresponding to this dollar.

On that if someone wants to get big money and fits in the criteria to start an business endeavor, they pay 1 dollar + a minuscule percent on a reasonably laid plan so they can give back for the money that was given to them, over who knows, maybe decades. Fair game.

And not 1 Dollar = 2 dollars, jew random expenses, twice the labor corresponding to this dollar (you may be unemployed too, hehe, and then you will need to go to the loan shark etc), and of course do not forget to pay your loan at 13 or 26% interest goy.
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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby ConsistentMeditator » Fri May 03, 2019 7:02 am

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:When people say that the National Socialists had "debt free" currency, it's just that, debt free currency the moment it is printed, coming forth without extra added debt. In America every dollar comes in existence with debt, which is then demanded from the populace in a never ending cycle of debt and unreasonable (but also invisible) taxation. This manifests in linear economy as the trashing of wages. Illegal migration strains this even further.

Debt free currency is just debt free currency. It doesn't create huge numbers of demanded wealth or taxes from the citizens based on usury at the moment of printing just because it was printed, nor it is created in a private way. But there are other ways with which from economic growth extra money may be demanded, which is tied into the constant generation of the economy.


I think I understand the general intent of what you are saying, that small interest won't cause big problems because the money supply will expand to compensate, and if the system does go wrong it can just be adjusted to make it work without causing an economic collapse. Since in Germany the priority was real world results achieved in the society with the system facilitating the improvements rather than being the end all be all of things. And since the currency is connected to actual labor results it is then going to have real meaning. I don't understand all of the details though. Specifically on how there is a difference between modern money having each dollar need to be paid off with an equivalent dollar in debt while the debt free currency wouldn't be like that.

Does it work in a way where the state owned central bank just creates and distributes the money to subsidiary state owned banks, without having to loan it out to said banks so they must promise to pay it back? Aka, it is simply a money transfer after creation without debt, and there is also no fractional reserve banking going on where the amount of money can expand up to 10x its original amount. Then when you get to the local bank which the individual or business takes a loan from, this is where the promise to repay begins? With this difference between where the debt based loans begin being the main difference between a private owned central bank and a state owned one?

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby Gear88 » Fri May 03, 2019 7:10 am

What about the tax system? How did they reform the whole taxes and paying for them in such manners compared to the current trend of IRS here in the States.

I mean it's been mentioned a national flat sales tax. Kinda like your(Cobra's) elimination of taxes after a car has been bought and sold and continue to pay taxes for something already taxed.

So what did they implement different?
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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri May 03, 2019 8:46 am

ConsistentMeditator wrote:...
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I find these conversations exceedingly boring as there are a lot of things online that you can read on the subject. However most of these are sourced in a communistic manner of "muh evil money" and all the related shit, which I find disgusting but also expected from the generally dumb people who cannot understand the difference of a knife and using a knife for murder, and only talk against the knife.

But I will answer to the best of that I know plus simplification and then you can do your own searching on the subject if this is interesting to you.

Specifically on how there is a difference between modern money having each dollar need to be paid off with an equivalent dollar in debt while the debt free currency wouldn't be like that.


American money aka dollars are generated by a request of the American government to the Fed. This is done let's say the American Government requests 100 dollars from the Fed. The Fed buys these on the price of 100 dollars in the form of government bonds. These bonds are deposited in an account for the Fed to keep and then the Fed gives the 100 dollars to the US government for it's use in exchange. Then 100 dollars are born out of this and the American Gov holds it in a bank account that can be used.

However, due to banking laws, how much money the bank has to safeguard ranges all the way from 100% to 10%. Lately this has never been 100% but rather a percent around 10% that the bank has to have of an amount to be considered operational. 10% of 100 is 10 dollars so we remain with 90 dollars. So what you are able to either lend or spend becomes 90 dollars, and 10 dollars are kept for security.

So the US can spend 90 dollars and the 10 dollars have to be kept by the bank so that it can be considered 'operational'. So people would assume there that these 90 dollars is what is going to be distributed from the bank to actual people to do actual business, but they do not. The 90 dollars is basically a random number that doesn't get in circulation and in turn creates a total of 100 existing dollars plus 90 demanded dollars. And this is how you expand your money supply, through loans instituted by other banks.

Then the guy borrows this 90, and 10% of this is kept. Then this process repeats and repeats through all transactions, and while this on paper creates "money", it also creates perpetual debt. To deal with this debt, it can only be done through basically devaluing your currency on a consistent basis, or you can't deal with it.

So what happens is that banks, depending on the deposits they have, they have to give out loans based on the 90 existing, 10 security, and 100 new dollars, which are "on demand-future to be generated" dollars and they do not really exist in any plausible way as reflection of anything existing. These loans are issued through promises that the bank wants to pay out due to interest, and these 90 dollars have to be generated somehow from within the economy.

But the money is not circulating in the economy in many cases. The money people pick from banks does not yet exist in generation or external economy, they are used as if they existed withing the banking spectrum, until they are "requested". When these are requested, they have to be paid, but if they are not requested, they are only a promise based on trust and nothing else. Yet, it is demanded regardless. This manifests in simple economy by sky rocketing bills, taxation, and other irrational things that people are forced to pay.

And this is why the system in the US is debt based. Because this gap has to be fulfilled and because in it there is also usurious interest on top of it, which creates a situation of a consistent circle of devaluing currency and then issuing more loans, then getting more money from the fed, and cyclically repeating this to the point your native currency constantly loses power.

This devaluing can reach the point as it did in 2008 where for each 1 dollar, everyone or the "American Nation" ie people owed 2 dollars. As to how these are going to be generated in a limited money supply that you can only draw from while only getting in more debt, you cannot really erase this in entirety, it can only be kept going. So to funnel the money supply again, you get more and more loans, and more and more borrowed money from the Federal reserve, while this only repeats itself.

Without a Fed relationship to lend money to the central government, and without the gap between the interest and the necessity of forced loans, you can fill in the above gap not by money demanded by the people, but by imaginary numbers that are only kept there in the form of a checking mechanism. So you can always keep the normal and real economy in perspective and not the imaginary numbers which are taken seriously in the case of usury based systems, only to make people suffer and hold them eternally into shady forms of debt.

Mind you most of that usury based financing is also "illegal", but "Give me the power to create the currency of a nation and I care not who makes the laws" as sir Rothschild said once. So there you have it.

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby Zammel » Fri May 03, 2019 12:12 pm

Gear88 wrote:
Zammel wrote:....

So, to summarize, in an NS society, everyone eventually finds their place sooner or later ... in the sense Gear 88 has the gift of sculpture, and becomes a successful sculptor? I say with time. Regarding loving my job, I hope so ... I work in nature ... but the way my parents do it they are making me hate it! And this is wrong!

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri May 03, 2019 1:56 pm

Zammel wrote:
Gear88 wrote:
Zammel wrote:....

So, to summarize, in an NS society, everyone eventually finds their place sooner or later ... in the sense Gear 88 has the gift of sculpture, and becomes a successful sculptor? I say with time. Regarding loving my job, I hope so ... I work in nature ... but the way my parents do it they are making me hate it! And this is wrong!


Yes. But if you will become "successful" or to what extent is still up to you and your efforts and of course natural dictate, talent and so forth.

The idea is to give ALL people despite of financial background opportunities to create, and from there on, let nature take her course. In an NS state your financial backround is of minimal importance. If you're a good mind you're going to "Harvard" in the parellel, despite if your parents are flat broke, because the state needs you.

Your existence matters to the whole, so if you deserve it, you will be elevated to better everything. It's what the American dream couldn't manage to achieve thanks to the jews.
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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby luis » Fri May 03, 2019 4:32 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Zammel wrote:
Gear88 wrote:

So, to summarize, in an NS society, everyone eventually finds their place sooner or later ... in the sense Gear 88 has the gift of sculpture, and becomes a successful sculptor? I say with time. Regarding loving my job, I hope so ... I work in nature ... but the way my parents do it they are making me hate it! And this is wrong!


Yes. But if you will become "successful" or to what extent is still up to you and your efforts and of course natural dictate, talent and so forth.

The idea is to give ALL people despite of financial background opportunities to create, and from there on, let nature take her course. In an NS state your financial backround is of minimal importance. If you're a good mind you're going to "Harvard" in the parellel, despite if your parents are flat broke, because the state needs you.

Your existence matters to the whole, so if you deserve it, you will be elevated to better everything. It's what the American dream couldn't manage to achieve thanks to the jews.

But at the same time no one would be broke maybe not as rich someone that did go to "Harvard" and it's a Genius but everyone will have a home, to eat and all the basic needs? Without having to do the slave but just helping in society even if they are not genius? Or i'm wrong?

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri May 03, 2019 5:01 pm

luis wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Zammel wrote:So, to summarize, in an NS society, everyone eventually finds their place sooner or later ... in the sense Gear 88 has the gift of sculpture, and becomes a successful sculptor? I say with time. Regarding loving my job, I hope so ... I work in nature ... but the way my parents do it they are making me hate it! And this is wrong!


Yes. But if you will become "successful" or to what extent is still up to you and your efforts and of course natural dictate, talent and so forth.

The idea is to give ALL people despite of financial background opportunities to create, and from there on, let nature take her course. In an NS state your financial backround is of minimal importance. If you're a good mind you're going to "Harvard" in the parellel, despite if your parents are flat broke, because the state needs you.

Your existence matters to the whole, so if you deserve it, you will be elevated to better everything. It's what the American dream couldn't manage to achieve thanks to the jews.

But at the same time no one would be broke maybe not as rich someone that did go to "Harvard" and it's a Genius but everyone will have a home, to eat and all the basic needs? Without having to do the slave but just helping in society even if they are not genius? Or i'm wrong?


Yes, exactly. The point of Volk society is that nobody is left behind, nor old, nor young.

No people under bridges, no people starving. This is just unacceptable in a volkisch society. The idea is to also have zero unemployment. There is a safety net and not the abyss below as today.

There is no slaving as there is no fundamental debt or artificial poverty to run away from. You just do what you are able to do (within reason, and this is why there are worker's rights in place) and you get generous compensation, all away from poverty.

Jews do not mention this but also the Gov of the NS was also rewarding leisure more than any other gov. If a family had 4 kids the mother was tax exempt. Just imagine how much wealth you can generate by being tax exempt. Vacations, cars, all sorts of equipment necessary to land, housing at extremely low and affordable rates of small loans or even for free under conditions, all of these were things that happened back then.

The National Socialists after the war had planned to also return the lands to the people for living outside the cities. Ie, free land and potentially a free house for big families to live in freely, no questions asked.

You work just the normal amount and get infinite amount of compensation in health, grants for vacations, all sorts of things. The enemy hides that because they are scared shitless to admit this, but under these systems people get everything they are dying to pay for basically free or as parcel or any work they commit to the country.

You can be a poster boy and still get full health insurance plus dentist. Actually much of this is the case in Europe still as these things happened and in many Northern European countries these did set a precedent.

The idea is you do not work to escape death only as today, you work to advance your nation and your Volk to the best of your ability. You work with seeing a purpose in life.

NS Germany was of the few regimes that placed most of their attention on the common man to help him up. Unlike communists and "socialists" who just plaster financial patches, the Nazis did actually reform the normal people's life.

The only thing that is a non option where one has issues is when they just refuse to create even the least of their abilities ie to be a total parasite by ones own admission.

Many of these things have survived in Germany, in Sweden, and in other countries today as a result. These are the systems the illegal migrants do exploit. The moment you step foot in Sweden you have healthcare, generous money and so forth.

Bismark and later Hitler also instated extremely generous pensions for the elderly. So when one is old you do not have to live in fear of not getting your needs met like what is done today.
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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby luis » Fri May 03, 2019 5:32 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
luis wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
...

Really beautiful, basicaly the more you help advance society the more you are "rich" unlike today that the more you trash society and/or are a parassite the more rich you are...

We really have to work hard for this kind of society!

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby Zammel » Fri May 03, 2019 7:23 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
luis wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
....

Sorry for use this world, but is a Heaven! Any people can become rich and populaer if they have a powerful gift! Anyone can elevate materially and spiritually...NOW I CAN KNOW I WORK! I was work only for destroy the bastard jew and become free the world...but if the jewfree world is like this i work harder to do them! GUYS DO MORE RTR and sent the jew in the after life! :lol: :twisted:

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby Gear88 » Sat May 04, 2019 2:08 am

Zammel wrote:
Gear88 wrote:
Zammel wrote:....

So, to summarize, in an NS society, everyone eventually finds their place sooner or later ... in the sense Gear 88 has the gift of sculpture, and becomes a successful sculptor? I say with time. Regarding loving my job, I hope so ... I work in nature ... but the way my parents do it they are making me hate it! And this is wrong!


Ever hear a little successful artisan sculptor named https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arno_Breker.

Boy he really did something nice in his day. Guess how famous he was made to be. But alas according to hannukah logic (((muh degenerate art))) (((muh equality))). I hate to sound like a destructive asshole to potential artist but if you have no business in art don't do it. Some things should not be created like the art school of fecal logic whereby putting paint up your ass and farting/shitting it out is considered a masterpiece.

On the other hand Zammel if you do have real talent I mean sculpting seems like an easy thing but it requires a fine touch like a masseuse I noticed over the years this job has gotten popular a lot in services role of jobs. But it's not a job for the masses it's a special person in fact taking it further such roles of jobs goes into the pleasure section of society such as tantric somatic type massages and whatnot(think for some special endings). So again it seems easy but you have to be like Tesla you gotta bring the object to mind and construct it two-three-four steps ahead of time. Like for example of you shear off a small facet of the cheeks you better make sure it rolls off properly and the shadow looks natural.

For example when I was young I was taken to a small campus for art work just to study some things and funny enough they accepted me. When I look back especially considering my chicken scratch handwriting and complete inability to draw in a way I wish I could draw with true beauty. I'm like GOOD. Who the hell thought I could be an artist.

Unfortunately (((muh equality))) we can all reach the sky nonsense is the god words around here. I'm not trying to flak down a persons ability to rise high. Just some people are not cut out for such roles even if they are they might require a proper volkish and spiritual society to teach them a more accurate format of success.
:idea: National Socialism is not fascism, fascism is not National Socialism.

Why are we memetically assaulted into a lump labelled fascism. Do you, pinko, know what fascism really is :?:

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby Zammel » Sat May 04, 2019 12:00 pm

Gear88 wrote:
Zammel wrote:
Gear88 wrote:

So, to summarize, in an NS society, everyone eventually finds their place sooner or later ... in the sense Gear 88 has the gift of sculpture, and becomes a successful sculptor? I say with time. Regarding loving my job, I hope so ... I work in nature ... but the way my parents do it they are making me hate it! And this is wrong!


Ever hear a little successful artisan sculptor named https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arno_Breker.

Boy he really did something nice in his day. Guess how famous he was made to be. But alas according to hannukah logic (((muh degenerate art))) (((muh equality))). I hate to sound like a destructive asshole to potential artist but if you have no business in art don't do it. Some things should not be created like the art school of fecal logic whereby putting paint up your ass and farting/shitting it out is considered a masterpiece.

On the other hand Zammel if you do have real talent I mean sculpting seems like an easy thing but it requires a fine touch like a masseuse I noticed over the years this job has gotten popular a lot in services role of jobs. But it's not a job for the masses it's a special person in fact taking it further such roles of jobs goes into the pleasure section of society such as tantric somatic type massages and whatnot(think for some special endings). So again it seems easy but you have to be like Tesla you gotta bring the object to mind and construct it two-three-four steps ahead of time. Like for example of you shear off a small facet of the cheeks you better make sure it rolls off properly and the shadow looks natural.

For example when I was young I was taken to a small campus for art work just to study some things and funny enough they accepted me. When I look back especially considering my chicken scratch handwriting and complete inability to draw in a way I wish I could draw with true beauty. I'm like GOOD. Who the hell thought I could be an artist.

Unfortunately (((muh equality))) we can all reach the sky nonsense is the god words around here. I'm not trying to flak down a persons ability to rise high. Just some people are not cut out for such roles even if they are they might require a proper volkish and spiritual society to teach them a more accurate format of success.

Yes, I not have the gift of sculpture, but others(i not says for paranoia) i think i am talented for my two gift, and i have start to freeing my soul from saturn in 8 home! And after start to walk the root of succes, a step at a time, patient is a virtue(HP have says this in a PDF)

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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sat May 04, 2019 1:05 pm

Zammel wrote:
Gear88 wrote:
Zammel wrote:So, to summarize, in an NS society, everyone eventually finds their place sooner or later ... in the sense Gear 88 has the gift of sculpture, and becomes a successful sculptor? I say with time. Regarding loving my job, I hope so ... I work in nature ... but the way my parents do it they are making me hate it! And this is wrong!


Ever hear a little successful artisan sculptor named https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arno_Breker.

Boy he really did something nice in his day. Guess how famous he was made to be. But alas according to hannukah logic (((muh degenerate art))) (((muh equality))). I hate to sound like a destructive asshole to potential artist but if you have no business in art don't do it. Some things should not be created like the art school of fecal logic whereby putting paint up your ass and farting/shitting it out is considered a masterpiece.

On the other hand Zammel if you do have real talent I mean sculpting seems like an easy thing but it requires a fine touch like a masseuse I noticed over the years this job has gotten popular a lot in services role of jobs. But it's not a job for the masses it's a special person in fact taking it further such roles of jobs goes into the pleasure section of society such as tantric somatic type massages and whatnot(think for some special endings). So again it seems easy but you have to be like Tesla you gotta bring the object to mind and construct it two-three-four steps ahead of time. Like for example of you shear off a small facet of the cheeks you better make sure it rolls off properly and the shadow looks natural.

For example when I was young I was taken to a small campus for art work just to study some things and funny enough they accepted me. When I look back especially considering my chicken scratch handwriting and complete inability to draw in a way I wish I could draw with true beauty. I'm like GOOD. Who the hell thought I could be an artist.

Unfortunately (((muh equality))) we can all reach the sky nonsense is the god words around here. I'm not trying to flak down a persons ability to rise high. Just some people are not cut out for such roles even if they are they might require a proper volkish and spiritual society to teach them a more accurate format of success.

Yes, I not have the gift of sculpture, but others(i not says for paranoia) i think i am talented for my two gift, and i have start to freeing my soul from saturn in 8 home! And after start to walk the root of succes, a step at a time, patient is a virtue(HP have says this in a PDF)


Training is important also. So train and study and try to be the best you can be.

Nobody is born a master at something from the stroller.
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Re: What Was The National Socialist "Financial System"

Postby Zammel » Sat May 04, 2019 5:36 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Zammel wrote:
Gear88 wrote:
Ever hear a little successful artisan sculptor named https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arno_Breker.

Boy he really did something nice in his day. Guess how famous he was made to be. But alas according to hannukah logic (((muh degenerate art))) (((muh equality))). I hate to sound like a destructive asshole to potential artist but if you have no business in art don't do it. Some things should not be created like the art school of fecal logic whereby putting paint up your ass and farting/shitting it out is considered a masterpiece.

On the other hand Zammel if you do have real talent I mean sculpting seems like an easy thing but it requires a fine touch like a masseuse I noticed over the years this job has gotten popular a lot in services role of jobs. But it's not a job for the masses it's a special person in fact taking it further such roles of jobs goes into the pleasure section of society such as tantric somatic type massages and whatnot(think for some special endings). So again it seems easy but you have to be like Tesla you gotta bring the object to mind and construct it two-three-four steps ahead of time. Like for example of you shear off a small facet of the cheeks you better make sure it rolls off properly and the shadow looks natural.

For example when I was young I was taken to a small campus for art work just to study some things and funny enough they accepted me. When I look back especially considering my chicken scratch handwriting and complete inability to draw in a way I wish I could draw with true beauty. I'm like GOOD. Who the hell thought I could be an artist.

Unfortunately (((muh equality))) we can all reach the sky nonsense is the god words around here. I'm not trying to flak down a persons ability to rise high. Just some people are not cut out for such roles even if they are they might require a proper volkish and spiritual society to teach them a more accurate format of success.

Yes, I not have the gift of sculpture, but others(i not says for paranoia) i think i am talented for my two gift, and i have start to freeing my soul from saturn in 8 home! And after start to walk the root of succes, a step at a time, patient is a virtue(HP have says this in a PDF)


Training is important also. So train and study and try to be the best you can be.

Nobody is born a master at something from the stroller.

I know it HP! But in my exemple a good person with a trained gift in our world without help cannot become rich(help like friends of friends, or in our chase, Demons) but i a NS world need only train and volunteer! Thanks HP!


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