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Re: For Emos; Emotional People; Water Signs Persons; Cowards; Wimps; and the like

Postby YoakeHoshi » Thu Nov 16, 2017 4:56 pm

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In every case balance sucks, the whole concept of balance or compromise sucks very much.


LOL oookay
If you don't care about what the JoS says, go ahead. *shrugs*

"you must be balanced in all of the elements."

"Fire is opposite Water and Air is opposite Earth. The opposite element is what is needed to fix the imbalance."

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Postby Nick Vabzircnila » Thu Nov 16, 2017 10:58 pm

Neoma Isadora wrote:- Secret agent : let's say you want a secret agent, now you could go with Gemini they are great at lying and appearing inoffensive, the problem is that they might very well double cross you if they get the occasion. If you go with Aries it's pretty much 100% mission failure (lacks finesse). If you go with Pisces they will lack the nerve to act under pressure. If you go with Scorpio and the Scorpio agent is loyal to you then you have the best odds of success.


This is not true. People with Gemini emphasis are often terrible liers.

I just have to say this. Since this topic was derailed, there have been countless of grandiose interpretations of the signs and elements and of vaguely described combinations. Most of them are completely wrong. You can't take anything by itself. I'm not trying to be rude, but reading many of these posts is like reading the interpretations of the daily newspaper 'horoscopes'. It's also obvious some people here don't have any experience with actually invoking the elements, or with astrology for that matter. You should really have practical experience with something before passing it off as a fact. Otherwise it just gets cringy and embarrassing to read.

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Postby YoakeHoshi » Fri Nov 17, 2017 5:44 pm

Nick Vabzircnila wrote:
This is not true. People with Gemini emphasis are often terrible liers.

I just have to say this. Since this topic was derailed, there have been countless of grandiose interpretations of the signs and elements and of vaguely described combinations. Most of them are completely wrong. You can't take anything by itself. I'm not trying to be rude, but reading many of these posts is like reading the interpretations of the daily newspaper 'horoscopes'. It's also obvious some people here don't have any experience with actually invoking the elements, or with astrology for that matter. You should really have practical experience with something before passing it off as a fact. Otherwise it just gets cringy and embarrassing to read.


Completely agree.

PS: I linked those Invoking Elements pages just for making people see the real characteristics of Elements; not some bs said out of anger. I'm sorry too, I don't wanna seem rude but I wanna be honest.
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Re: For Emos; Emotional People; Water Signs Persons; Cowards; Wimps; and the like

Postby Neoma Isadora » Fri Nov 17, 2017 8:15 pm

Nick Vabzircnila wrote:
Neoma Isadora wrote:- Secret agent : let's say you want a secret agent, now you could go with Gemini they are great at lying and appearing inoffensive, the problem is that they might very well double cross you if they get the occasion. If you go with Aries it's pretty much 100% mission failure (lacks finesse). If you go with Pisces they will lack the nerve to act under pressure. If you go with Scorpio and the Scorpio agent is loyal to you then you have the best odds of success.


This is not true. People with Gemini emphasis are often terrible liers.

I just have to say this. Since this topic was derailed, there have been countless of grandiose interpretations of the signs and elements and of vaguely described combinations. Most of them are completely wrong. You can't take anything by itself. I'm not trying to be rude, but reading many of these posts is like reading the interpretations of the daily newspaper 'horoscopes'. It's also obvious some people here don't have any experience with actually invoking the elements, or with astrology for that matter. You should really have practical experience with something before passing it off as a fact. Otherwise it just gets cringy and embarrassing to read.

All you have said in this long ranting is "please notice me I can write empty paragraphs."
It's obvious people here blablabla [insert random filler attempts of moralizing and condescending sentences].. cut the crap already, thanks. You are feeling embarrassed at yourself because you can't state strong opinions and assume them ? Too bad for you.
Here is a strong opinion and completely assumed : Unless they have some serious water or air influence (eg moon in a water sign will save them) Aries majority people (aries stellium type) are a bunch of despicable and dumb meatheads. There is no point in trying to bit nicer with them, they will take any attempt to be more humane towards them as weakness. They react like wild beasts ; in their childhood they were the school bullies, when they grow up physically they end up detestable people, they know only the law of the jungle all their life. They are completely untrustworthy and will try to walk over you whenever they get a chance. The reason the universe gave them a lot of physical strength is that they are so horribly disabled and backwards on a character and mind level that nature truly took pity on them. Yes it is the stupidest and least evolved sign, the only possible saving grace is having some key planets in other signs.
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Re: For Emos; Emotional People; Water Signs Persons; Cowards; Wimps; and the like

Postby Adagio // » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:42 pm

Nick Vabzircnila wrote:
Neoma Isadora wrote:- Secret agent : let's say you want a secret agent, now you could go with Gemini they are great at lying and appearing inoffensive, the problem is that they might very well double cross you if they get the occasion. If you go with Aries it's pretty much 100% mission failure (lacks finesse). If you go with Pisces they will lack the nerve to act under pressure. If you go with Scorpio and the Scorpio agent is loyal to you then you have the best odds of success.


This is not true. People with Gemini emphasis are often terrible liers.

I just have to say this. Since this topic was derailed, there have been countless of grandiose interpretations of the signs and elements and of vaguely described combinations. Most of them are completely wrong. You can't take anything by itself. I'm not trying to be rude, but reading many of these posts is like reading the interpretations of the daily newspaper 'horoscopes'. It's also obvious some people here don't have any experience with actually invoking the elements, or with astrology for that matter. You should really have practical experience with something before passing it off as a fact. Otherwise it just gets cringy and embarrassing to read.

How are geminis terrible liars. They are the tricksters and intellectuals in the Zodiac.
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Postby YoakeHoshi » Sun Nov 19, 2017 2:14 pm

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All you have said in this long ranting is "please notice me I can write empty paragraphs."
It's obvious people here blablabla [insert random filler attempts of moralizing and condescending sentences].. cut the crap already, thanks. You are feeling embarrassed at yourself because you can't state strong opinions and assume them ? Too bad for you.
Here is a strong opinion and completely assumed : Unless they have some serious water or air influence (eg moon in a water sign will save them) Aries majority people (aries stellium type) are a bunch of despicable and dumb meatheads. There is no point in trying to bit nicer with them, they will take any attempt to be more humane towards them as weakness. They react like wild beasts ; in their childhood they were the school bullies, when they grow up physically they end up detestable people, they know only the law of the jungle all their life. They are completely untrustworthy and will try to walk over you whenever they get a chance. The reason the universe gave them a lot of physical strength is that they are so horribly disabled and backwards on a character and mind level that nature truly took pity on them. Yes it is the stupidest and least evolved sign, the only possible saving grace is having some key planets in other signs.


Mmh... I think what you've said is just bullshit.

I could understand you if you wrote "an extreme of this element" or "a lack of this element" + true infos, but you explicitly twisted and distorted the characteristics and meanings of both elements and zodiac signs as you pleased.
Don't push your opinions upon others.

Cut off this show and go inform yourself on http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/HOME.html instead of rant on/blabbering about how "bad" Air/Fire/Earth signs are and stop being rude to some Brothers and Sisters.

Insulting other people/speaking in a certain way/taking the freedom to be rude will not make you a better person.
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Postby TheFlea » Sun Nov 19, 2017 3:12 pm

Honestly, I have a Gemini influence, and I
am an awful liar (I Dont lie anymore ... of course) ... lol :) maybe just me. As others have said you'd have to see the rest of the chart.

Neoma, I don't know if you have had a traumatizing experience with a non-water sign person, or if you are just being so abrasive in hopes to make a name for yourself. Either way I want to say I am very sorry. However, I have to agree with Nick and Yoake 100% in their own "strong opinion" that your posts read as if they were ripped from a page of Cosmo ... or from a teenager's astro blog. It is sad to see, especially considering much of it is personal opinion you are passing and not necessarily fact. Some of it is 180° opposite of what Maxine herself has taught

Nick, I just want to say its nice to have you here from the old forums. I know you have been with us a long time, good to see you.

Really I was taken back by Fancy's post initially, but now after seeing the responses, I have to agree with others when I say I now see what he was talking about ...

I get the feeling you have been wronged by signs different than yours and maybe you've even been made to feel a little insecure about your own signs, and if so, that sucks and I get it. You Dont have to feel bad anymore, and your signs are awesome too. If I'm wrong, then I am sorry, only trying to help. You just seem really, really angry.

Either way, you really come off as a bit of a bully yourself... idk if you knew this.

I am not an expert astrologer, I Dont claim to be. But I base my beliefs on many complete charts I've studied intensely of people I know, comparing data. I also base it on information from the JoS, from information Maxine and Lydia have emailed me and from readings I got from HC Hoodedcobra - NOT on a sun/moon sign or ascendant by themself ...

I care for you as I do all my family and appreciate your other thoughts, but I would say these things to my own flesh and blood brother. This is distressing, and likely confusing for newer people.

Not saying all people with these traits are the same, of course. But I've two Aries friends (one sun, one ascendant - non water/air moons) who are much more evolved, intelligent, spiritual and kind than what you've described. And not dumb and stupid. ...My best friend is Scorpio sun and is the most talkative, kind, non-secretive, laid-back person I've ever met ...

So, again, like putting a puzzle together and NOT guessing the picture from just two pieces, and as others have said and would agree, the WHOLE chart must be read completely for a clear, accurate picture.

I Dont want to offend anyone, I just want everyone to be more unified again

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Postby Nick Vabzircnila » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:02 pm

Neoma Isadora wrote:
Nick Vabzircnila wrote:
Neoma Isadora wrote:- Secret agent : let's say you want a secret agent, now you could go with Gemini they are great at lying and appearing inoffensive, the problem is that they might very well double cross you if they get the occasion. If you go with Aries it's pretty much 100% mission failure (lacks finesse). If you go with Pisces they will lack the nerve to act under pressure. If you go with Scorpio and the Scorpio agent is loyal to you then you have the best odds of success.


This is not true. People with Gemini emphasis are often terrible liers.

I just have to say this. Since this topic was derailed, there have been countless of grandiose interpretations of the signs and elements and of vaguely described combinations. Most of them are completely wrong. You can't take anything by itself. I'm not trying to be rude, but reading many of these posts is like reading the interpretations of the daily newspaper 'horoscopes'. It's also obvious some people here don't have any experience with actually invoking the elements, or with astrology for that matter. You should really have practical experience with something before passing it off as a fact. Otherwise it just gets cringy and embarrassing to read.

All you have said in this long ranting is "please notice me I can write empty paragraphs."
It's obvious people here blablabla [insert random filler attempts of moralizing and condescending sentences].. cut the crap already, thanks. You are feeling embarrassed at yourself because you can't state strong opinions and assume them ? Too bad for you.
Here is a strong opinion and completely assumed : Unless they have some serious water or air influence (eg moon in a water sign will save them) Aries majority people (aries stellium type) are a bunch of despicable and dumb meatheads. There is no point in trying to bit nicer with them, they will take any attempt to be more humane towards them as weakness. They react like wild beasts ; in their childhood they were the school bullies, when they grow up physically they end up detestable people, they know only the law of the jungle all their life. They are completely untrustworthy and will try to walk over you whenever they get a chance. The reason the universe gave them a lot of physical strength is that they are so horribly disabled and backwards on a character and mind level that nature truly took pity on them. Yes it is the stupidest and least evolved sign, the only possible saving grace is having some key planets in other signs.


What you’re doing in all of your posts is simplifying the topic because you lack understanding and experience. “Since Aries can’t fly, and neither can a stone, then ultimately Aries must be a stone”. Then you go on to employ a Marxist Hegelian dialectic to suggest some kind of conflict between each sign and each element. Then you attempt to pour fuel on the fire by spewing out a myriad of fallacious ‘interpretations’. I’m not sensing an ulterior motive on your part, only ignorance, imbalance, and programming. But it doesn’t really matter. What you’re doing reeks, and I’m now calling you out on it. You’re trying to instigate conflict by employing distracting misinformation.

As if that wasn't enough, you’re now trying to project what YOU’RE doing onto ME- writing empty paragraphs, having weak opinions, being condescending and moralizing. When all I did was correct one of your (many) ‘interpretations’ and give constructive criticism by suggesting that you have ACTUAL experience with something before writing so boldly about it. You’re clearly very inexperienced since you claim that elemental imbalance is positive. And I certainly didn’t write that post to be noticed. Those are big words coming from someone whose posts make up 13 per cent of the total posts in a topic with 57 posts and over 15 different posters.

What you write on the internet is immortalized. I was trying to point you in the right direction, so you wouldn’t embarrass yourself anymore than you already have. You now have the choice again, to either man up, take my advice, and improve yourself, or you can reply with your Marxist arguing again and continue your negative spiral.

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Postby Nick Vabzircnila » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:12 pm

Adagio // wrote:
Nick Vabzircnila wrote:
Neoma Isadora wrote:- Secret agent : let's say you want a secret agent, now you could go with Gemini they are great at lying and appearing inoffensive, the problem is that they might very well double cross you if they get the occasion. If you go with Aries it's pretty much 100% mission failure (lacks finesse). If you go with Pisces they will lack the nerve to act under pressure. If you go with Scorpio and the Scorpio agent is loyal to you then you have the best odds of success.


This is not true. People with Gemini emphasis are often terrible liers.

I just have to say this. Since this topic was derailed, there have been countless of grandiose interpretations of the signs and elements and of vaguely described combinations. Most of them are completely wrong. You can't take anything by itself. I'm not trying to be rude, but reading many of these posts is like reading the interpretations of the daily newspaper 'horoscopes'. It's also obvious some people here don't have any experience with actually invoking the elements, or with astrology for that matter. You should really have practical experience with something before passing it off as a fact. Otherwise it just gets cringy and embarrassing to read.

How are geminis terrible liars. They are the tricksters and intellectuals in the Zodiac.


Imagine someone has a Gemini AC, along with the Sun, Jupiter, and Mercury in their first house. My experience is that something like this gives very pronounced body language and nervous energy. There are two things to this. One is body language, the other is how well you can control your mind. With lying, you need to be in control of both. The body language needs to be kept in check, and the mind has to be disciplined. Good liars can do both.

The Gemini person mentioned above would likely have a very hard time disciplining their thoughts and nervous energy. This, along with their strong body language, would make them easy to read, even for people who are not very psychic. But remember, this is just one example. That's why I wrote 'emphasis' and 'often'. There can be other factors to offset a weaker Gemini influence.

Even extremely spiritually strong people wanting to hide from someone in a specific situation could go into a void, but their body language would still be off. This is something to be aware of.

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Postby Nick Vabzircnila » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:14 pm

TheFlea wrote:Nick, I just want to say its nice to have you here from the old forums. I know you have been with us a long time, good to see you.


Thank you, and likewise :)

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Postby Stormblood » Sun Nov 19, 2017 5:33 pm

Being good at lying has little to do with Gemini either way. From what I can remember right now, one should look for planets in Pisces or Scorpio, or aspects to them, to Scorpio, to Neptune... I found people with an emphasis on Gemini to be very annoying, and probably Lydia would laugh to read this, knowing my birth chart.

Neoma Isadora, what's this all-out war on people who have an emphasis on Aries?
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Postby Lydia » Mon Nov 20, 2017 10:21 am

I completely agree with Nick, Yoake, and TheFlea here, regarding Neoma Isadora's posts. There is much more to a person than just a few indicators which is all that Neoma is going by ("oh that person is like this and it's all because he has a planet in this sign which proves my point").

I'm not even going to write a lengthly reply as it would only be a re-hash of what has already been stated by the others.

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Postby FancyMancy » Sat Nov 25, 2017 12:59 am

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Postby Stormblood » Sun Nov 26, 2017 4:54 am

Neoma Isadora wrote:- Basic Soldier : you ideally want an Aries type with some earth, and with low or no water and low or no air because you want someone with maximum physical strength, a very aggressive and competitive character and they should be clueless with very limited intelligence (if they can obey that's enough) and definitely you don't want someone who will start to think by themselves. Other good type would be Taurus you won't get the same aggressive nature but a good, strong and very steady soldier anyway.


This is really insane. A dumb soldier dies without even making it to the battlefield. If soldiers didn't "think", as you're trying to paint, they would all die during basic training directly. Making it to the front? No way. You clearly know nothing about astrology, let alone career astrology.
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Postby Shining Sloth 666 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 7:50 am

FancyMancy wrote:"Douche" is French for "water".


Actually, ''Douche'' means shower. :D
Just passing by ^-^.
On a more not-so-important note I wanted to add that If I would have been less wise and maybe with much more water in my chart I would've really enjoyed receiving blunt and help advice from you FancyMancy! :D

Somewhere in your replies there's the eggshells metaphor which I could totally relate.
Before, being without and younger I had trained myself to be the Master Eggshells Walker.
I only wanted to please every one even those I hated.
Now, I am as blunt as can be. Proud and blazing with confidence to be myself.
And whenever I judge ''walking on eggshells'' could be useful depending on the situation
I can be as soft as the spring breeze 8-)
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Postby FancyMancy » Tue Nov 28, 2017 4:38 pm

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FancyMancy wrote:"Douche" is French for "water".


Actually, ''Douche'' means shower. :D

I know. ;-) "Shower Sign" doesn't make sense, though! Lol.
Just passing by ^-^.
On a more not-so-important note I wanted to add that If I would have been less wise and maybe with much more water in my chart I would've really enjoyed receiving blunt and help advice from you FancyMancy! :D

Aww. There there, lol.

Somewhere in your replies there's the eggshells metaphor which I could totally relate.
Before, being without and younger I had trained myself to be the Master Eggshells Walker.
I only wanted to please every one even those I hated.
Now, I am as blunt as can be. Proud and blazing with confidence to be myself.

Well, you know what? You are so fucking nice, and your heart is amazing and... (It's difficult to sound blunt and positive at the same time in text, lol.)

And whenever I judge ''walking on eggshells'' could be useful depending on the situation
I can be as soft as the spring breeze 8-)

Yeah, exactly. Y'all might think I'm this, that, and the other, but you don't know me. You can't see me. It's all good. It's all chill, my fam; blood; homies; Gs... :oops:
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Postby YoakeHoshi » Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:11 pm

FancyMancy wrote:Yeah, exactly. Y'all might think I'm this, that, and the other, but you don't know me. You can't see me. It's all good. It's all chill, my fam; blood; homies; Gs... :oops:


Aww ♡

I wonder why some people can't (or don't wanna) see that some members are just amazing and always ready to share informations and advices!

Me, personally, am grateful to you FancyMancy. :) You don't know how many times I've found answers in your posts! :oops: :mrgreen:
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Postby Adagio // » Tue Nov 28, 2017 9:18 pm

Nick Vabzircnila wrote:
Adagio // wrote:
Nick Vabzircnila wrote:
This is not true. People with Gemini emphasis are often terrible liers.

I just have to say this. Since this topic was derailed, there have been countless of grandiose interpretations of the signs and elements and of vaguely described combinations. Most of them are completely wrong. You can't take anything by itself. I'm not trying to be rude, but reading many of these posts is like reading the interpretations of the daily newspaper 'horoscopes'. It's also obvious some people here don't have any experience with actually invoking the elements, or with astrology for that matter. You should really have practical experience with something before passing it off as a fact. Otherwise it just gets cringy and embarrassing to read.

How are geminis terrible liars. They are the tricksters and intellectuals in the Zodiac.


Imagine someone has a Gemini AC, along with the Sun, Jupiter, and Mercury in their first house. My experience is that something like this gives very pronounced body language and nervous energy. There are two things to this. One is body language, the other is how well you can control your mind. With lying, you need to be in control of both. The body language needs to be kept in check, and the mind has to be disciplined. Good liars can do both.

The Gemini person mentioned above would likely have a very hard time disciplining their thoughts and nervous energy. This, along with their strong body language, would make them easy to read, even for people who are not very psychic. But remember, this is just one example. That's why I wrote 'emphasis' and 'often'. There can be other factors to offset a weaker Gemini influence.

Even extremely spiritually strong people wanting to hide from someone in a specific situation could go into a void, but their body language would still be off. This is something to be aware of.

You gave me an elaborate chart description. I meant Geminis all by itself. Its possible to add a couple more influences to neutralize the instability you mentioned.
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Postby Godmode » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:53 am

is it just me or is this thread a whole load of fighting over who's got the better signs
I'm pretty sure this isn't how this works....

The problem is that being water element doesn't make you more... "emotional". Being water element means you are more -fluid- in your emotions, you live in them so to speak, it doesn't mean you feel everything more therefor you are a pussy. That's like people believing that high IQ = sensitivity = pussy nerd with glasses look at the poor kid with his pants around his ankles.

If you are strong in water you would probably rather have a glass of wine with someone rather than a hundred rounds at the range. But you can shoot the gun as good as Mr Firepants if only you wanted to as much as he.

And don't take it as me being defensive because I'm actually low on water in my chart, except my moon. 'Nuff about me though and my perfect, special, x-tra rare & privileged personal astrology.

Hitler if I remember correctly had literally no water in his chart whatsoever and was still, obviously, a ridiculously "emotional" dude. It will actually reverse, so someone with no fire in their chart may succumb to spontaneous bursts of action.
Anybody can be bullied, anybody can be broken, anyone can feel like life is unfair and anyone can get sad, don't attach it to yourself even if its written in your natal.

You can also have someone with all water be an eight foot tall scary motherfucker or someone with all fire be a wimp with down's syndrome or something.
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Postby Nick Vabzircnila » Wed Nov 29, 2017 2:18 pm

Adagio // wrote:
Nick Vabzircnila wrote:
Adagio // wrote:How are geminis terrible liars. They are the tricksters and intellectuals in the Zodiac.


Imagine someone has a Gemini AC, along with the Sun, Jupiter, and Mercury in their first house. My experience is that something like this gives very pronounced body language and nervous energy. There are two things to this. One is body language, the other is how well you can control your mind. With lying, you need to be in control of both. The body language needs to be kept in check, and the mind has to be disciplined. Good liars can do both.

The Gemini person mentioned above would likely have a very hard time disciplining their thoughts and nervous energy. This, along with their strong body language, would make them easy to read, even for people who are not very psychic. But remember, this is just one example. That's why I wrote 'emphasis' and 'often'. There can be other factors to offset a weaker Gemini influence.

Even extremely spiritually strong people wanting to hide from someone in a specific situation could go into a void, but their body language would still be off. This is something to be aware of.

You gave me an elaborate chart description. I meant Geminis all by itself. Its possible to add a couple more influences to neutralize the instability you mentioned.


I really didn't. This was four factors out of hundreds of possible factors in a natal chart. Hardly elaborate. 'Gemini all by itself' can only mean a person who only has Gemini planets. In which case my interpretation would be accurate. But all planets in one sign is very rare. So let's move on from that. As you wrote yourself, other factors could neutralize the example I wrote. So we seem to be on the same page here! Nothing can be taken all by itself.

The problem with current affairs is that people take one sign or one element and isolate this one factor totally, without taking the rest into consideration. This is medieval.

I mentioned this earlier in this topic. If someone says 'Taureans' or 'Sagittarians' - WHAT exactly does this mean? Does it mean someone has an emphasis in their natal chart on that particular zodiac sign? Are we talking about the chart ruler? Does the person have ALL their planets in this particular sign? Or is it simply sun sign astrology?

Information that is too simplified is dangerous and inaccurate. This is true in medicine, war, and yes, astrology. Just look at what happened in this topic when people were triggered by the 'water signs' mentioned in the title. It all derailed and turned into a negative cockfight over which sign or element is best. The enemy laughs at this, as it's a total waste of our time and energy. There are hundreds of factors in a natal chart to be taken into consideration.

The same goes for the elements. This hyperfocusing on the positive and negative attributes of each element that has been going on in this thread is also completely unnecessary and a waste of time. The information provided on the Joy of Satan website on the elements is there as a guide to let people know which elements they need to work with to achieve a balance. When the elements are balanced, one will have all the positive traits of each element. This could take a few weeks to a few months, depending on one's effort.

So what is the point of arguing over who has the best negativity right now? When can all be awesome if we work at it through our common denominator of SATANAMA. Hail Satan!

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Postby AncientShadow666 » Wed Nov 29, 2017 3:19 pm

Godmode wrote:is it just me or is this thread a whole load of fighting over who's got the better signs
I'm pretty sure this isn't how this works....

The problem is that being water element doesn't make you more... "emotional". Being water element means you are more -fluid- in your emotions, you live in them so to speak, it doesn't mean you feel everything more therefor you are a pussy. That's like people believing that high IQ = sensitivity = pussy nerd with glasses look at the poor kid with his pants around his ankles.

If you are strong in water you would probably rather have a glass of wine with someone rather than a hundred rounds at the range. But you can shoot the gun as good as Mr Firepants if only you wanted to as much as he.

And don't take it as me being defensive because I'm actually low on water in my chart, except my moon. 'Nuff about me though and my perfect, special, x-tra rare & privileged personal astrology.

Hitler if I remember correctly had literally no water in his chart whatsoever and was still, obviously, a ridiculously "emotional" dude. It will actually reverse, so someone with no fire in their chart may succumb to spontaneous bursts of action.
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You can also have someone with all water be an eight foot tall scary motherfucker or someone with all fire be a wimp with down's syndrome or something.
When you get out there and do so many real peoples' astrology you get a better feel for what its actually going to show you, to where you can apply the knowledge and actually use the information you get out of it.


like me, im full of water but many people are scared of me (those who should be) because i can fight with a passion and i always protect the innocent ^^ i dunno how to describe it, you are definitely not some whip, but you put all of your emotions while doing something whatever that is, if it is art or a fighting or helping a person or even while RTRs, i just put all of it in it, because i must let emotions out, i do not even try to hide it, i sometimes even while just talking to some people either if it is funny or serious, i sometimes get overpowered by certain emotions and i just gotta let them out, the most funny thing is when i cry i mean the tears just flow out even thou im still serious as before, and the person to who i talk to just ask me: wtf why are you crying now why are you sad? but i am not sad, i am just touched by the situation and that is the way i express it... buuuuuuut as a water sign im a pretty bad muddaf**in girl ahahahha :lol: :lol: :lol:

i hope im making any sense :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: i sometimes put everything possible in the soup if you know what i mean :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
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FancyMancy wrote:
Shining Sloth 666 wrote:
FancyMancy wrote:"Douche" is French for "water".


Actually, ''Douche'' means shower. :D

I know. ;-) "Shower Sign" doesn't make sense, though! Lol.

Hahaha my bad :?

FancyMancy wrote:Well, you know what? You are so fucking nice, and your heart is amazing and... (It's difficult to sound blunt and positive at the same time in text, lol.)

Wow thanks a lot!! :) You're really damn amazing too!!!! :D
I don't know why sometimes I would think of Goebbels when reading news you would share.
Like not the headlines but really interesting news and stuff. I don't know that much about Goebbels either
but I know he was like the chief and propaganda and stuff. 8-)
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Postby FancyMancy » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:15 pm

YoakeHoshi wrote:
FancyMancy wrote:Yeah, exactly. Y'all might think I'm this, that, and the other, but you don't know me. You can't see me. It's all good. It's all chill, my fam; blood; homies; Gs... :oops:


Aww ♡

I wonder why some people can't (or don't wanna) see that some members are just amazing and always ready to share informations and advices!

Me, personally, am grateful to you FancyMancy. :) You don't know how many times I've found answers in your posts! :oops: :mrgreen:

Wow. I have to say that I haven't been used to receiving actual praise and thanks. As I say, christianity just says it but they don't say it, actually - it's all "goddidit"... Thank you for that. I hope I help.

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Shining Sloth 666 wrote:
Actually, ''Douche'' means shower. :D

I know. ;-) "Shower Sign" doesn't make sense, though! Lol.

Hahaha my bad :?

FancyMancy wrote:Well, you know what? You are so fucking nice, and your heart is amazing and... (It's difficult to sound blunt and positive at the same time in text, lol.)

Wow thanks a lot!! :) You're really damn amazing too!!!! :D

:lol:

I don't know why sometimes I would think of Goebbels when reading news you would share.
Like not the headlines but really interesting news and stuff. I don't know that much about Goebbels either
but I know he was like the chief and propaganda and stuff. 8-)

Hmmm. I don't know much about him, either. Has he risen his Kundalini? I would like to think we could communicate with him, and the others, if they have, but they might prefer to not be in a lot of communication for a while.

FancyMancy wrote:Yeah, exactly. Y'all might think I'm this, that, and the other, but you don't know me. You can't see me. It's all good. It's all chill, my fam; blood; homies; Gs... :oops:

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Postby FancyMancy » Wed Nov 29, 2017 9:28 pm

Godmode wrote:...

Thanks.

For any n00bs who don't know much about Astrology, allow me to say - eugh! It's difficult! :( Like, to me, Astrology = maths, and I am not the best mathematician. I can just about count so I know how many vibrations of which Runes to vibrate! :P I think Runes might be more English literature or writing or spelling/enunciation (hehe) to me - so far. Lydia is a major credit for Astrology here.

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Postby Godmode » Wed Nov 29, 2017 11:33 pm

AncientShadow666 wrote:
Godmode wrote:i hope im making any sense :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: i sometimes put everything possible in the soup if you know what i mean :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:


I getcha :) Everyone's different. You're a good example of the strong water type I'm talking about. I don't have the hard stats but I've found water people can be quicker at picking up martial arts for some reason. Maybe its because of how fluid their movements are. :roll:
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Postby Persistenceiskey » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:04 pm

13th_Wolf wrote: From my time on this forum, all I can say to you is NEVER verbally square-go another Satanist unless you know your shit b0i. :ugeek:


I just want to say... I'm loving that signature of yours :D
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Postby Adagio // » Thu Nov 30, 2017 2:12 pm

Nick Vabzircnila wrote:
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Nick Vabzircnila wrote:
Imagine someone has a Gemini AC, along with the Sun, Jupiter, and Mercury in their first house. My experience is that something like this gives very pronounced body language and nervous energy. There are two things to this. One is body language, the other is how well you can control your mind. With lying, you need to be in control of both. The body language needs to be kept in check, and the mind has to be disciplined. Good liars can do both.

The Gemini person mentioned above would likely have a very hard time disciplining their thoughts and nervous energy. This, along with their strong body language, would make them easy to read, even for people who are not very psychic. But remember, this is just one example. That's why I wrote 'emphasis' and 'often'. There can be other factors to offset a weaker Gemini influence.

Even extremely spiritually strong people wanting to hide from someone in a specific situation could go into a void, but their body language would still be off. This is something to be aware of.

You gave me an elaborate chart description. I meant Geminis all by itself. Its possible to add a couple more influences to neutralize the instability you mentioned.


I really didn't. This was four factors out of hundreds of possible factors in a natal chart. Hardly elaborate. 'Gemini all by itself' can only mean a person who only has Gemini planets. In which case my interpretation would be accurate. But all planets in one sign is very rare. So let's move on from that. As you wrote yourself, other factors could neutralize the example I wrote. So we seem to be on the same page here! Nothing can be taken all by itself.

The problem with current affairs is that people take one sign or one element and isolate this one factor totally, without taking the rest into consideration. This is medieval.

I mentioned this earlier in this topic. If someone says 'Taureans' or 'Sagittarians' - WHAT exactly does this mean? Does it mean someone has an emphasis in their natal chart on that particular zodiac sign? Are we talking about the chart ruler? Does the person have ALL their planets in this particular sign? Or is it simply sun sign astrology?

Information that is too simplified is dangerous and inaccurate. This is true in medicine, war, and yes, astrology. Just look at what happened in this topic when people were triggered by the 'water signs' mentioned in the title. It all derailed and turned into a negative cockfight over which sign or element is best. The enemy laughs at this, as it's a total waste of our time and energy. There are hundreds of factors in a natal chart to be taken into consideration.

The same goes for the elements. This hyperfocusing on the positive and negative attributes of each element that has been going on in this thread is also completely unnecessary and a waste of time. The information provided on the Joy of Satan website on the elements is there as a guide to let people know which elements they need to work with to achieve a balance. When the elements are balanced, one will have all the positive traits of each element. This could take a few weeks to a few months, depending on one's effort.

So what is the point of arguing over who has the best negativity right now? When can all be awesome if we work at it through our common denominator of SATANAMA. Hail Satan!

I mean Gemini without the filter of any planet or chart placement. The zodiac sign all by itself.
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Godmode wrote:At the risk of sounding like AR666/ARv2 - are you single and looking?! :P You gave me not just one kiss but kisses recently, so... :P :P


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Persistenceiskey wrote:
13th_Wolf wrote: From my time on this forum, all I can say to you is NEVER verbally square-go another Satanist unless you know your shit b0i. :ugeek:


I just want to say... I'm loving that signature of yours :D


Cheers bro, I guess XD. Its just one of those ideas that came to me when I was doing some menial task and I thought: "Hey, that's pretty good". :idea:
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Postby 13th_Wolf » Thu Nov 30, 2017 8:13 pm

FancyMancy wrote:I know I speak and spell/type correctly ( :P ) but I won't tell y'all that I am from Tee-exass


Aw, dagnabbit :| I thought you were from Auld England XD. You definitely come across as tho you are in a lot of your posts.
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Postby FancyMancy » Sat Dec 02, 2017 2:23 am

AncientShadow666 wrote:
FancyMancy wrote:
Godmode wrote:At the risk of sounding like AR666/ARv2 - are you single and looking?! :P You gave me not just one kiss but kisses recently, so... :P :P


ahhahaahah i just love my gentile people :D im sorry to dissapoint you, but i am already taken :lol: and sexuallly i am atracted only to women :P

D'aaah well! Lol.

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Aw, dagnabbit :| I thought you were from Auld England XD. You definitely come across as tho you are in a lot of your posts.

Lol. Keep the fuckers guessing! ;-) As someone else who I knew online, who I am quite certain wasn't a Nazi/SS at all, said - "Don't let the bastards win!".

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Postby Larissa666 » Sun Dec 03, 2017 3:54 pm

As a Gemini (Libra ascending), it is so depressing to read this. Apparently, I am just lying, two faced piece of sh** and nothing else?

Hurts, but then again, is this all written in stone? Or are there deviations from a rule? I never understood horoscope, although I am trying to, because Satanists should understand and use it.
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Postby Nick Vabzircnila » Tue Dec 05, 2017 1:30 am

Larissa666 wrote:As a Gemini (Libra ascending), it is so depressing to read this. Apparently, I am just lying, two faced piece of sh** and nothing else?

Hurts, but then again, is this all written in stone? Or are there deviations from a rule? I never understood horoscope, although I am trying to, because Satanists should understand and use it.


Please re-read my posts before you start hurting. :D This whole topic turned into people complaining over simplified interpretations, but it had died out for a few days. You can go to the astrology forum if you want help learning astrology.

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Larissa666 wrote:As a Gemini (Libra ascending), it is so depressing to read this. Apparently, I am just lying, two faced piece of sh** and nothing else?

Hurts, but then again, is this all written in stone? Or are there deviations from a rule? I never understood horoscope, although I am trying to, because Satanists should understand and use it.


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AncientShadow666 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:...


same here, i used to be extremely sensitive and emotional, but i also had many problems in the past and i could only deal with them after becoming SS, before that i was just being emo :lol: today i am both, sensitive and strong but i dont hide my sensitivity, if i have a need to let it out i just do it, but that doesnt change the fact that i also have the strenght which developed over the years, lets just say a perfect balance, and both is in a positive way


Guess that makes us kind of alike.

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Wildfire wrote:
AncientShadow666 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:...


same here, i used to be extremely sensitive and emotional, but i also had many problems in the past and i could only deal with them after becoming SS, before that i was just being emo :lol: today i am both, sensitive and strong but i dont hide my sensitivity, if i have a need to let it out i just do it, but that doesnt change the fact that i also have the strenght which developed over the years, lets just say a perfect balance, and both is in a positive way


Guess that makes us kind of alike.


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What is her signature?

Neoma Isadora wrote: Enough with the bullshit. Where is the delete account button ? Please ban me and delete all my posts.


Looks like she is acting on the criticism in all the wrong ways. Very Xian in the sense that she would rather just give up than bother consulting it. Maybe she would make a new account and do it in her own way? Who knows, maybe that's it-but I hope not over something so petty.

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Postby Wildfire » Fri Jan 26, 2018 9:42 am

Neoma Isadora wrote:"For thick, insensitive, boastful, aggressive, blunt, abusive, stupid and bad mouthed fire signs people; reckless, gorillas, bullies, low lives and the like"
I wonder if that one would have passed as well... I have the feeling it would have not.
Moon is in Aries.. Hmm makes sense.


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Postby Stormblood » Fri Jan 26, 2018 12:00 pm

13th_Wolf wrote:What is her signature?

Neoma Isadora wrote: Enough with the bullshit. Where is the delete account button? Please ban me and delete all my posts.


Looks like she is acting on the criticism in all the wrong ways. Very Xian in the sense that she would rather just give up than bother consulting it. Maybe she would make a new account and do it in her own way? Who knows, maybe that's it-but I hope not over something so petty.

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Well, sometimes one needs to take a step back and try to understand things on their own, rather than being overwhelmed with the opinions of many people. Still better than completely abandoning one's path and emailing members about nonsense how "Satanism is only for a group of 16 people" or "SS is just as useless as Xianity" and other royal-grade shit, as it happened recently to me with a kid named "Cernunnos" on the forums, formerly Abdiyel or whatever crappy Jewish name.
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Postby Sacred_Practice9 » Sun Mar 18, 2018 4:36 pm

Neoma Isadora wrote:
Nick Vabzircnila wrote:
Neoma Isadora wrote:- Secret agent : let's say you want a secret agent, now you could go with Gemini they are great at lying and appearing inoffensive, the problem is that they might very well double cross you if they get the occasion. If you go with Aries it's pretty much 100% mission failure (lacks finesse). If you go with Pisces they will lack the nerve to act under pressure. If you go with Scorpio and the Scorpio agent is loyal to you then you have the best odds of success.


This is not true. People with Gemini emphasis are often terrible liers.

I just have to say this. Since this topic was derailed, there have been countless of grandiose interpretations of the signs and elements and of vaguely described combinations. Most of them are completely wrong. You can't take anything by itself. I'm not trying to be rude, but reading many of these posts is like reading the interpretations of the daily newspaper 'horoscopes'. It's also obvious some people here don't have any experience with actually invoking the elements, or with astrology for that matter. You should really have practical experience with something before passing it off as a fact. Otherwise it just gets cringy and embarrassing to read.

All you have said in this long ranting is "please notice me I can write empty paragraphs."
It's obvious people here blablabla [insert random filler attempts of moralizing and condescending sentences].. cut the crap already, thanks. You are feeling embarrassed at yourself because you can't state strong opinions and assume them ? Too bad for you.
Here is a strong opinion and completely assumed : Unless they have some serious water or air influence (eg moon in a water sign will save them) Aries majority people (aries stellium type) are a bunch of despicable and dumb meatheads. There is no point in trying to bit nicer with them, they will take any attempt to be more humane towards them as weakness. They react like wild beasts ; in their childhood they were the school bullies, when they grow up physically they end up detestable people, they know only the law of the jungle all their life. They are completely untrustworthy and will try to walk over you whenever they get a chance. The reason the universe gave them a lot of physical strength is that they are so horribly disabled and backwards on a character and mind level that nature truly took pity on them. Yes it is the stupidest and least evolved sign, the only possible saving grace is having some key planets in other signs.


You know, I have to say, despite this post being quite old at this point, I do like to throw in my two cents here and there.

You've actually, just awakened me to this, that I am one of those Aries Stellium people, very athletic, very strong. But not what you've implied at all of an Aries Stellium person, now, I'm not insulted in any way, nor would I be, as I have no idea who you are to consider this an insult, nor will I be insulted on what my astrological signs are.

But, I think just because you've had a few bad experiences with Fire sign people, does not dictate how all fire sign people are. I have other signs and planets that cause me to be quite a conscious and spiritual person as well, with my own issues and things to overcome, which as a result, caused me to be harder on myself than other people. But, when I am hard on someone, it is an attempt to give them the passion to try as hard as I do, as I see quite a lot of people who are too complacent and need a good kick in the ass, much like how I used to be. And this is either successful, or a drag, but more often than not it is a success, though not always lasting, as people will go on to do as they please, but for a moment, they will see with Fire's eye's, and act accordingly; it's inspiratory in that sense.

But, I am also a firm believer that we as SS, have the power to overcome whatever we're displeased with within our Natal chart, and have the ability to change what we don't like about ourselves, whether it be through Runes and magickal workings, or Sanskrit, these are all tools we use to better ourselves and to stop from being complacent and to make things happen in our lives. I've done it, and it is possible for everyone. I feel like being overly complacent is a result of Xian programming, because even people who are very emotional, can trasmogrify these emotions into a more potent emotion such as anger, and take the chi of anger and use it to incite action, or an event, or whatever you want really, one just has to do this.
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Re: For Emos; Emotional People; Water Signs Persons; Cowards; Wimps; and the like

Postby Sacred_Practice9 » Tue Apr 03, 2018 11:02 pm

At the request of OP Fancy Mancy, I am obligated to post the effects of the elements on my emotions and personality.

Now, I do have to note, that I am a Fire Sign individual with a Stellium (Venus, Mercury, and Saturn) in Aries, and Mars in Taurus. So, I'm not exactly an emotional person other than you know, what I like to call passion. But nevertheless invoking the elements can really effect you as an individual, and this is meant to be an educational post, not a suggestion of what you should do.

First off, I'll start with an experience I have had recently:

I was on a run one morning, and stopped at a lake to take a rest and meditate outside, something I hardly ever get a chance to do. It also happened to be quite a windy, and beautiful spring day down in the tropics, so I took it as an opportunity to invoke the element Air. And boy was I in for a fucking ride dude. A week long, emotional roller coaster ride.

Now, this was all my doing, it was my ignorance, and has since been corrected by my GD because I couldn't handle it, and he's like a brother to me, and helped me out vastly. I invoked air 13 times, now it doesn't seem like a lot, but the suggestion is 7, the most I've gotten away with without too much discomfort was 8, and I got carried away and invoked air 13 times. Now, at first, I was fine, I felt light, airy, and intelligent, I thought I was a badass. WRONG A few hours later whilst I was at work, I had an anxiety attack. All that was wrong, was that I was crashing from caffeine, and had a belly ache from the protein shake I drank, within the same 20 minutes as the energy drink, bad idea. But other than that I was fine, but i was so nervous, and anxious from the excess Air that I wasn't used to, that I had spun myself into an anxiety attack and ended up going home early. I even had to take the next day off of work because I couldn't get myself to calm down.

Now, of course, when you retain an element, your body adjusts to it over the course of a few days depending on how much you take in. So I was getting more and more used to it every day and was chilling out enough to be able to work. But still had minor anxiety attacks every morning, even this morning before I decided to get help from my GD and fix this shit because it was effecting my exercise (which is second most important to me next to being an SS, and my family), as well as my appetite.

Ways I was able to fix this was by invoking Earth of course, the 'opposite' to air, which helped to offset the excess air, but also created a backlash of the dominant Air element, so I was still feeling a little anxious, but I was more 'down to Earth' about it, and wasn't so flighty. Invoking Earth was one of the most comforting feelings I've had the past entire week. Like holy shit, it was like taking a chill pill made of dirt fellas, no kidding.

Another way I was able to help with ridding myself of the anxiety and feeling mentally shitty and exhausted over all was by invoking Fire. It gave me a feeling of happiness which helped to better support my down to Earth feeling as well. You see, without Earth to sustain Fire, fire just burns out. Fire needs tinder, but fire also consumes oxygen (air) so it will offset the effects of the air element. At least that is what I experienced, but the effects of the elements also depends on your own personality and who you are as a person, so it is best to know a lot about yourself before you go messing around with elemental magick. With that in mind, I have had anxiety attacks in the past, but for good reason, not because I had the shit sweats from protein and energy drink not sitting well in my gut, as well as some "probably-way-too-much-taurine-in-a-given-amount-of-time" seeing as how the protein shake also had a lot of taurine as well, because it is an amino acid and is relatively good for you. But there is an excess to everything of course.

Invoking and condensing the elements into your chakras however is much different, and has far less effects on your emotions and personality. So, doing that is much safer than doing what I did. Like I said, it was my ignorance that let this happen, I wasn't taking the necessary precautions to invoking the elements. Fuck, I didn't even think to exhale the air after I invoked it because I thought I was cool. So, like I said, this is educational, take it or leave it. I am of course going to adjust to the air I invoked, probably well within the next week as long as I invoke fire and earth as well, being my more dominant elements on my natal chart, this will over power the air.

So, let's review the elements' effects on me.

Air- Nervous, irritable, paranoid, anxious.
Fire- Sexy, strong, happy, and oh, did I mention strong?
Earth- Disciplined, consistent, and 'down to Earth.'
Water- Compassionate, and loving. Buuut, I hardly ever invoke Water, so I don't know every single effect it has on me, but I do know that it is present in my more emotional side, which presents itself in my beliefs and my loyalty to the people (or Gods) that I love.

Moral of the story here today brothers/sisters, is to be careful when you invoke the elements, especially the more Emotional members here, because it can really fuck with your head if you over do it.

PS. I also did this on the same day that the Jews burned a bunch of children in Russia, 5 days before passover. Which helps explain some of the bull shit I felt, as enemy energy was abundant.
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Re: For Emos; Emotional People; Water Signs Persons; Cowards; Wimps; and the like

Postby FancyMancy » Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:31 pm

I think HP Mageson666's thread "Evil" should also be linked here -
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Re: For Emos; Emotional People; Water Signs Persons; Cowards; Wimps; and the like

Postby Eric13 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 2:45 am

Neoma Isadora wrote:

What you’re describing is exactly how it’s supposed to be. Everyone has a a different chart with a different elemental make up. Everyone has different talents and such and different things to offer. By no means will balancing the personality take away from what they have to offer. You’re misunderstanding. It’ll increase what they have to offer. Balance is needed for advancement. It’s like if you go to the gym and work on only one arm, you’re limiting yourself.

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Re: For Emos; Emotional People; Water Signs Persons; Cowards; Wimps; and the like

Postby Larissa666 » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:32 am

People, do not reply to Neoma Isadora, do not quote her posts anymore.

She left the forum months ago.
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Re: For Emos; Emotional People; Water Signs Persons; Cowards; Wimps; and the like

Postby Stormblood » Sat May 05, 2018 4:49 pm

Larissa666 wrote:People, do not reply to Neoma Isadora, do not quote her posts anymore.

She left the forum months ago.


Did she? She could be back with another account, for all we know.
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Re: For Emos; Emotional People; Water Signs Persons; Cowards; Wimps; and the like

Postby Centralforce666 » Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:48 pm

Neoma Isadora wrote:
Adagio // wrote:What way to display your ignorance and disrespect water sign people's.
Coming from an individual who talks like a wimp all the time too. Water is a cosmic principle of fidelity, honour and bravery. It can also induce feelings of submission and fear depending on how and which nature of it a person embodies. Of course water comprises a great plethora of different energies. My apologies for heating up a bit this comment section, but this wimp needed a good truth slap.


To develop,

- Air signs think they are the best, too bad they are completely deluded. These are the worst people to have as family, friends or lover. Unreliable, superficial, treasonous and manipulative without being provoked, cheating, deceiving, a huge entitlement complex, on top of being full of cowardice. They pack the most flaws of all the zodiac but manage to deceive others with their cheap tricks and superficial charm (only works on fire and earth of course, water can see through the crap)

- Fire signs try to make others believe they are the best because they are completely insecure inside and need others having a high opinion of them to function. But they will never admit that of course. Actually Saggitarius is the most secure fire sign and Aries is the least secure sign of the entire zodiac. Aries is so insecure and threatened by others, and dependent on others approbation that they are compulsed to argue and fight with everybody constantly so they can feel good about themselves. Pathetic :roll: . Leo is very pride dependent and needs to show off constantly but is more secure then Aries, because they don't feel the need to bully and put others down to feel secure, they are content with just bragging in a vain manner and showing off constantly.

- Earth know better then to have urges to show off like kids and also have the same adjectives as the air signs but the opposite good qualities instead of flaws. These are great people although they are plain/too material focused and they can be too dependent on others judgment.

- Water signs are just awesome. They have the best qualities. They will do what needs to be done but not waste energy. They don't show off or need approval because their sense of self worth is completely independent of others approval. You can hate, despise and mock them it will only make them stronger and more resolute. Another perk is living life to the fullest with all emotions stronger so highs are amazing and lows are pretty bad but they are part of the journey too and are interesting and remembering them makes one happy in comparison. And sorry not sorry Aries, being constantly angry at everyone and everything is not experiencing emotions, it's having a brain disorder :)


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Re: For Emos; Emotional People; Water Signs Persons; Cowards; Wimps; and the like

Postby Dypet Rod » Sat Sep 29, 2018 4:56 am

YoakeHoshi wrote:
FancyMancy wrote:
Hello, [everyone].

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I will neither confirm nor deny it, but please tell me which Sign you think I am, based on how little or how much you know about me or think you know about me, and how little or how much you know and understand about the Signs.


I see some Fire characteristics and some of Air too but I'm not sure... Talkative, objective, sociable.
Maybe if it's not Air, you could have a well placed Mercury :P

I think your Sun sign and Ascendent could be Sagittarius and Aquarius or one of them is Leo.
Or your Mercury is in Sagittarius or Aquarius. Or your Mars is in Gemini :?: mmh...

But yeah, I think you're a Fire-Air person! :mrgreen:


That's very old, but I agree! The first sign that came into my mind was Sagittarius. You must have a strong Sagittarius influence somewhere in your chart, maybe even a Jupiter/Mercury influence. I do have this.

You also remind me of Aldrick, the way he proposes constructive challenges, reflection about things and ideas, etc. Which is something I admire.
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