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Oh, yeah. That's great advice. A restaurant worker will do those things. If in a restaurant, you certainly would be sitting on a stool of all things. I am guessing this venture would take place in a not-McDonald's restaurant; McDonald's staff wouldn't do such things; a swanky-arsed restaurant, for a business meeting, would? Lel.
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Pretty sure most of the Big M's chairs are either metal or bolted to the floor, anyway. :lol:

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VoiceofEnki said:

If one lets such immature tactics influence them, or influence their business dealings, they really aren't suited to do business whatsoever.

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jrvan said:

FancyMancy said:

jrvan said:

Only onions say "hm" that much. :lol:

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I don't know the reference or joke. Regardless, I hope I don't make anyone cry...

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:lol:

If you're curious, it's from the Dark Souls games. The games are very, very jewish in nature so I wouldn't recommend playing or watching them, like ever, but some of the in crowd humor is amusing.

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jrvan said:

I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

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Oh, yeah. That's great advice. A restaurant worker will do those things. If in a restaurant, you certainly would be sitting on a stool of all things. I am guessing this venture would take place in a not-McDonald's restaurant; McDonald's staff wouldn't do such things; a swanky-arsed restaurant, for a business meeting, would? Lel.

These fantasy stories are great. Really. I'll go to the second star on the straight-ahead, and straight-on 'til evening. Oh, wait a minute. I am not an actor playing a character in a Children's fantasy story... Oh, fine - back to life, back to reality, back to the here and now, yeah, show me how.

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What's all of this about mcdonalds? :lol:

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You have to realize that many people will agree to do things for you if you give them money. A staff member doesn't own the company, they only work there, so they are more likely to accept bribes. That's usually how it works. Most people have a price, sadly. Then there's stubborn guys like me who will turn bribes down on principle even if they offered me the national coffers. I would rather take than be bought because then I'm not selling out my own will, but rather using my own will to get what they offered me in the first place without doing their dirty work for them. Punishing bribers like that sounds fun.

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VoiceofEnki said:

jrvan said:

AgainstAllAuthority said:

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Prepare the ground for battle

When going for negotiations, always fight on your turf and make sure to prepare the battleground.
If it's going to be a restaurant, get there a week earlier. Make the necessary reservations. Ask the staff to cut the legs of your opponent's stool so that they sit a bit lower than you do.
Ask them to make your food extra dry and pump it so it looks bigger. Ask them to serve your opponent dripping food (extra sauce) which will force them to lower their head to eat or make a mess of themselves.
Ask the staff to give bad looks to your guest and disrespect him in a subtle way.
Use every trick in the book.

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I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

If I get into business and investing in the future, I think I will try to program my aura to attract straight shooters/honest men and women as business partners and whatnot. I'm not personally fond of manipulation on this level, and I couldn't bring myself to do it to someone. If I felt I had cause to be that ruthless to someone, or if I really really needed them out of my way, then I would probably do magick to sink their business or whatever.

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If one lets such immature tactics influence them, or influence their business dealings, they really aren't suited to do business whatsoever.

Hypothetically someone "uses every trick in the book", and proceeds to laugh at their "guest" for it, to humiliate them, etc, what would this really accomplish anyway?

To feel humiliated is a personal choice at the end of the day. Tactics like this may only work if your guest desperately needs a business deal more than you, and thus one can push them around.

If they aren't desperate for it, it won't do anything as they can just get up and leave without saying a word, leaving you hanging and looking like a buffoon.

The most important thing in any dealing with another person, is to never come across as if you are desperate for it, or need it more than them, but that it is your choice to be there and that it makes no difference to you whether you walk away with nothing or with an agreeable deal.

One must always know what they want from another person, and never let anyone else push you around for it.

Stand in your own shoes, let people act like the clowns they are by using their little beta business tactics, when the talks are about to begin give them a gesture with your gaze "and what of it?" Conveying to the other party you are exactly aware of their little clown tactics, and that it changes nothing.

Or just get up and leave just as they are about to get into the meat of the issue after all the bravado is over. Tell them "If you're serious about discussing a dealing with me, you know where to reach me", get up and leave calmly, without looking back at them or saying another word.

Chances are, if someone is lacking in confidence to have to clown around like this in order to try and position themselves in an advantageous position over you, they are the ones who care about face and humiliation, and who will feel the hurt for days to come after you handle them like that, while you go on with your life unbothered as you were.


Taking initiative, not letting others walk over you, being confident and knowing what you want out of an interaction before you get into it are more important than any such little "cutthroat" tactics.

Whether you are the one humiliated, or they are, depends entirely on how you receive the attempted humiliation of another.


Hail Satan!

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FancyMancy said:

Not from after he/she/it attacked others already?

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The Alchemist7 said:

FancyMancy said:

Not from after he/she/it attacked others already?

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That's the issue. Is not about Fancy this and that as it's about a perpetual vicious cycle of several members attacking, slandering and ridiculizing each other wherever they find the opportunity, something which got worse and worse in the last months.

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jrvan said:

AgainstAllAuthority said:

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Prepare the ground for battle

When going for negotiations, always fight on your turf and make sure to prepare the battleground.
If it's going to be a restaurant, get there a week earlier. Make the necessary reservations. Ask the staff to cut the legs of your opponent's stool so that they sit a bit lower than you do.
Ask them to make your food extra dry and pump it so it looks bigger. Ask them to serve your opponent dripping food (extra sauce) which will force them to lower their head to eat or make a mess of themselves.
Ask the staff to give bad looks to your guest and disrespect him in a subtle way.
Use every trick in the book.

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I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

If I get into business and investing in the future, I think I will try to program my aura to attract straight shooters/honest men and women as business partners and whatnot. I'm not personally fond of manipulation on this level, and I couldn't bring myself to do it to someone. If I felt I had cause to be that ruthless to someone, or if I really really needed them out of my way, then I would probably do magick to sink their business or whatever.

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That's just scratching the surface.
Most people will cook the books in one way or another.
If someone is selling a business they will make it look like they earn more than they really do.
Here's an example : when going through the documentation of a business, I found a recently made contract with a client for a crazy amount of monthly revenue. Fortunately I caught the scam. The signature of the client started with the word Veto, which invalidates the contract. Thus the client had no obligation towards the business. The business owner could also claim plausible deniability as he could say that the client scammed him. The client can't be prosecuted for that either. If I had proceeded with the purchase, I'd be in a costly legal battle for months and probably never gotten the money back.

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jrvan said:

AgainstAllAuthority said:

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Prepare the ground for battle

When going for negotiations, always fight on your turf and make sure to prepare the battleground.
If it's going to be a restaurant, get there a week earlier. Make the necessary reservations. Ask the staff to cut the legs of your opponent's stool so that they sit a bit lower than you do.
Ask them to make your food extra dry and pump it so it looks bigger. Ask them to serve your opponent dripping food (extra sauce) which will force them to lower their head to eat or make a mess of themselves.
Ask the staff to give bad looks to your guest and disrespect him in a subtle way.
Use every trick in the book.

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I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

If I get into business and investing in the future, I think I will try to program my aura to attract straight shooters/honest men and women as business partners and whatnot. I'm not personally fond of manipulation on this level, and I couldn't bring myself to do it to someone. If I felt I had cause to be that ruthless to someone, or if I really really needed them out of my way, then I would probably do magick to sink their business or whatever.

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If one lets such immature tactics influence them, or influence their business dealings, they really aren't suited to do business whatsoever.

Hypothetically someone "uses every trick in the book", and proceeds to laugh at their "guest" for it, to humiliate them, etc, what would this really accomplish anyway?

To feel humiliated is a personal choice at the end of the day. Tactics like this may only work if your guest desperately needs a business deal more than you, and thus one can push them around.

If they aren't desperate for it, it won't do anything as they can just get up and leave without saying a word, leaving you hanging and looking like a buffoon.

The most important thing in any dealing with another person, is to never come across as if you are desperate for it, or need it more than them, but that it is your choice to be there and that it makes no difference to you whether you walk away with nothing or with an agreeable deal.

One must always know what they want from another person, and never let anyone else push you around for it.

Stand in your own shoes, let people act like the clowns they are by using their little beta business tactics, when the talks are about to begin give them a gesture with your gaze "and what of it?" Conveying to the other party you are exactly aware of their little clown tactics, and that it changes nothing.

Or just get up and leave just as they are about to get into the meat of the issue after all the bravado is over. Tell them "If you're serious about discussing a dealing with me, you know where to reach me", get up and leave calmly, without looking back at them or saying another word.

Chances are, if someone is lacking in confidence to have to clown around like this in order to try and position themselves in an advantageous position over you, they are the ones who care about face and humiliation, and who will feel the hurt for days to come after you handle them like that, while you go on with your life unbothered as you were.


Taking initiative, not letting others walk over you, being confident and knowing what you want out of an interaction before you get into it are more important than any such little "cutthroat" tactics.

Whether you are the one humiliated, or they are, depends entirely on how you receive the attempted humiliation of another.


Hail Satan!

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Ramier108666 said:

VoiceofEnki said:

jrvan said:

I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

If I get into business and investing in the future, I think I will try to program my aura to attract straight shooters/honest men and women as business partners and whatnot. I'm not personally fond of manipulation on this level, and I couldn't bring myself to do it to someone. If I felt I had cause to be that ruthless to someone, or if I really really needed them out of my way, then I would probably do magick to sink their business or whatever.

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If one lets such immature tactics influence them, or influence their business dealings, they really aren't suited to do business whatsoever.

Hypothetically someone "uses every trick in the book", and proceeds to laugh at their "guest" for it, to humiliate them, etc, what would this really accomplish anyway?

To feel humiliated is a personal choice at the end of the day. Tactics like this may only work if your guest desperately needs a business deal more than you, and thus one can push them around.

If they aren't desperate for it, it won't do anything as they can just get up and leave without saying a word, leaving you hanging and looking like a buffoon.

The most important thing in any dealing with another person, is to never come across as if you are desperate for it, or need it more than them, but that it is your choice to be there and that it makes no difference to you whether you walk away with nothing or with an agreeable deal.

One must always know what they want from another person, and never let anyone else push you around for it.

Stand in your own shoes, let people act like the clowns they are by using their little beta business tactics, when the talks are about to begin give them a gesture with your gaze "and what of it?" Conveying to the other party you are exactly aware of their little clown tactics, and that it changes nothing.

Or just get up and leave just as they are about to get into the meat of the issue after all the bravado is over. Tell them "If you're serious about discussing a dealing with me, you know where to reach me", get up and leave calmly, without looking back at them or saying another word.

Chances are, if someone is lacking in confidence to have to clown around like this in order to try and position themselves in an advantageous position over you, they are the ones who care about face and humiliation, and who will feel the hurt for days to come after you handle them like that, while you go on with your life unbothered as you were.


Taking initiative, not letting others walk over you, being confident and knowing what you want out of an interaction before you get into it are more important than any such little "cutthroat" tactics.

Whether you are the one humiliated, or they are, depends entirely on how you receive the attempted humiliation of another.


Hail Satan!

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In all respects brother, to go the lengths of humiliation and using devious means are already a subgrade of ignorance. An honest approach as Jrvan said is quite respectful.

The Op who made this post is not really giving a more honest approach but using means that current world acts while under Jewish control. That would mean I’m going way backwards from what is supposed to be.

It is very degrading to do these things.

Maybe my understanding may seem too naive, but I’m an upfront to the pint kind of man. Devious means are played by fools and cowards in my opinion.

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Ramier108666 said:

VoiceofEnki said:

jrvan said:

I'll be the first to admit that I wouldn't have thought of any of that. It sounds really dirty and cutthroat though. Is this sort of thing common in the business world? If people pulled stuff like this on me then I'd probably curse them.

If I get into business and investing in the future, I think I will try to program my aura to attract straight shooters/honest men and women as business partners and whatnot. I'm not personally fond of manipulation on this level, and I couldn't bring myself to do it to someone. If I felt I had cause to be that ruthless to someone, or if I really really needed them out of my way, then I would probably do magick to sink their business or whatever.

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If one lets such immature tactics influence them, or influence their business dealings, they really aren't suited to do business whatsoever.

Hypothetically someone "uses every trick in the book", and proceeds to laugh at their "guest" for it, to humiliate them, etc, what would this really accomplish anyway?

To feel humiliated is a personal choice at the end of the day. Tactics like this may only work if your guest desperately needs a business deal more than you, and thus one can push them around.

If they aren't desperate for it, it won't do anything as they can just get up and leave without saying a word, leaving you hanging and looking like a buffoon.

The most important thing in any dealing with another person, is to never come across as if you are desperate for it, or need it more than them, but that it is your choice to be there and that it makes no difference to you whether you walk away with nothing or with an agreeable deal.

One must always know what they want from another person, and never let anyone else push you around for it.

Stand in your own shoes, let people act like the clowns they are by using their little beta business tactics, when the talks are about to begin give them a gesture with your gaze "and what of it?" Conveying to the other party you are exactly aware of their little clown tactics, and that it changes nothing.

Or just get up and leave just as they are about to get into the meat of the issue after all the bravado is over. Tell them "If you're serious about discussing a dealing with me, you know where to reach me", get up and leave calmly, without looking back at them or saying another word.

Chances are, if someone is lacking in confidence to have to clown around like this in order to try and position themselves in an advantageous position over you, they are the ones who care about face and humiliation, and who will feel the hurt for days to come after you handle them like that, while you go on with your life unbothered as you were.


Taking initiative, not letting others walk over you, being confident and knowing what you want out of an interaction before you get into it are more important than any such little "cutthroat" tactics.

Whether you are the one humiliated, or they are, depends entirely on how you receive the attempted humiliation of another.


Hail Satan!

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In all respects brother, to go the lengths of humiliation and using devious means are already a subgrade of ignorance. An honest approach as Jrvan said is quite respectful.

The Op who made this post is not really giving a more honest approach but using means that current world acts while under Jewish control. That would mean I’m going way backwards from what is supposed to be.

It is very degrading to do these things.

Maybe my understanding may seem too naive, but I’m an upfront to the pint kind of man. Devious means are played by fools and cowards in my opinion.

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Regardless of the miss intended tones or miss interpretations, on the direct topic of the restaurant or business talk, it is a well known tactic used by mafia guys, politicians etc etc.

This might be something weird for Americans, but in Eastern Europe these things are facts and it is basically a fight of ego, or a brotherly "come up". Nothing in between, nothing less nothing more.

Business done in such ways are always related to real big money and not just some small town lady wanting to make a cake business or just a "nobody" who made their first money and thinks they own the world.

You want to open up a casino on your own and expand, bad luck as you need allowance and REAL ego and value check with the mafia or political influences in the places.

I think AAA knows this and also is with a positive intention speaking of this. However, as much as I'd like to talk as well on these subjects, the overall atmosphere seems to not allow this, given the little things told and the replies on it.

On a spiritual side of things, masculine traits and ego will help 100% in this, anything else such as intuition, emotion should be placed on a pre meditated strategy and not action, especially meetings or real actions of business.

We are SS and discussion of "conquer", supreme elite action and discussion is to be entertained. Money, business, relationships everything. Don't let outsiders larp what you are for real, and that is an elite individual doing elite spiritual practices and life path.

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NakedPluto said:

Regardless of the miss intended tones or miss interpretations, on the direct topic of the restaurant or business talk, it is a well known tactic used by mafia guys, politicians etc etc.

This might be something weird for Americans, but in Eastern Europe these things are facts and it is basically a fight of ego, or a brotherly "come up". Nothing in between, nothing less nothing more.

Business done in such ways are always related to real big money and not just some small town lady wanting to make a cake business or just a "nobody" who made their first money and thinks they own the world.

You want to open up a casino on your own and expand, bad luck as you need allowance and REAL ego and value check with the mafia or political influences in the places.

I think AAA knows this and also is with a positive intention speaking of this. However, as much as I'd like to talk as well on these subjects, the overall atmosphere seems to not allow this, given the little things told and the replies on it.

On a spiritual side of things, masculine traits and ego will help 100% in this, anything else such as intuition, emotion should be placed on a pre meditated strategy and not action, especially meetings or real actions of business.

We are SS and discussion of "conquer", supreme elite action and discussion is to be entertained. Money, business, relationships everything. Don't let outsiders larp what you are for real, and that is an elite individual doing elite spiritual practices and life path.

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NinRick said:

AgainstAllAuthority said:

Pay attention to your attitude and behavior.

It will help your attitude if you make yourself believe, just before meeting someone, that you accomplished something great. The greatest thing you can imagine, make yourself believe that. You should have a satisfied poker face.

As for behavior and manners, a book could be written about it. The most important is to lead others. Do not let others lead you. Always go where you want to go and when you decide to do so. For example, if you are at a restaurant and the other person finishes the meal before you and wants to go, tell them that you are still hungry. If they decide to go anyway, let them. If they want to wait outside, fine as well. Btw you never want to finish a meal. Never finish a glass and don't fill your glass to the top. Always throw out some. Don't eat like an animal. Don't lower your head, bring the food up.
As for when to do things, you are always busy and you always check your agenda first. If someone proposes at a certain time, check your agenda and tell them that you are busy. Pick a time that is uncomfortable for the other person. If dealing with xian, pick sunday. If dealing with muslim, pick friday. If dealing with jew, pick saturday. Things have to happen on your terms.

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I think you need to work on your intelligence. You are severely lacking it.

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I didn't think VoE was contradicting me, but rather adding on to what I said. Did I miss something?

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it's about a perpetual vicious cycle of several members attacking, slandering and ridiculizing each other wherever they find the opportunity, something which got worse and worse in the last months. This must somehow be stopped If we are expecting millions of people to reach JoS and many of them will join the forums as well. When they come here they shouldn't see old members attacking each other incessantly and not on very justified reasons sometimes. Is like going to a new job and you see the employees arguing and fighting each other every day, that's not the sort of environment one would want to find in a community especially when they are new.

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NakedPluto said:

Regardless of the miss intended tones or miss interpretations, on the direct topic of the restaurant or business talk, it is a well known tactic used by mafia guys, politicians etc etc.

This might be something weird for Americans, but in Eastern Europe these things are facts and it is basically a fight of ego, or a brotherly "come up". Nothing in between, nothing less nothing more.

Business done in such ways are always related to real big money and not just some small town lady wanting to make a cake business or just a "nobody" who made their first money and thinks they own the world.

You want to open up a casino on your own and expand, bad luck as you need allowance and REAL ego and value check with the mafia or political influences in the places.

I think AAA knows this and also is with a positive intention speaking of this. However, as much as I'd like to talk as well on these subjects, the overall atmosphere seems to not allow this, given the little things told and the replies on it.

On a spiritual side of things, masculine traits and ego will help 100% in this, anything else such as intuition, emotion should be placed on a pre meditated strategy and not action, especially meetings or real actions of business.

We are SS and discussion of "conquer", supreme elite action and discussion is to be entertained. Money, business, relationships everything. Don't let outsiders larp what you are for real, and that is an elite individual doing elite spiritual practices and life path.

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NakedPluto said:

Regardless of the miss intended tones or miss interpretations, on the direct topic of the restaurant or business talk, it is a well known tactic used by mafia guys, politicians etc etc.

This might be something weird for Americans, but in Eastern Europe these things are facts and it is basically a fight of ego, or a brotherly "come up". Nothing in between, nothing less nothing more.

Business done in such ways are always related to real big money and not just some small town lady wanting to make a cake business or just a "nobody" who made their first money and thinks they own the world.

You want to open up a casino on your own and expand, bad luck as you need allowance and REAL ego and value check with the mafia or political influences in the places.

I think AAA knows this and also is with a positive intention speaking of this. However, as much as I'd like to talk as well on these subjects, the overall atmosphere seems to not allow this, given the little things told and the replies on it.

On a spiritual side of things, masculine traits and ego will help 100% in this, anything else such as intuition, emotion should be placed on a pre meditated strategy and not action, especially meetings or real actions of business.

We are SS and discussion of "conquer", supreme elite action and discussion is to be entertained. Money, business, relationships everything. Don't let outsiders larp what you are for real, and that is an elite individual doing elite spiritual practices and life path.

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Good point. Yes, these tactics seemed like what one uses in a hostile setting, not with another SS or other decent person.

The thing that I find silly is that I believe you could get a better, even more natural response, through working with masculine energies in various ways. This goes for a lot of life advice threads, where people suggest doing only certain physical actions, forgetting the spiritual origins of that action.

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jrvan said:

Ramier108666 said:

VoiceofEnki said:

If one lets such immature tactics influence them, or influence their business dealings, they really aren't suited to do business whatsoever.

Hypothetically someone "uses every trick in the book", and proceeds to laugh at their "guest" for it, to humiliate them, etc, what would this really accomplish anyway?

To feel humiliated is a personal choice at the end of the day. Tactics like this may only work if your guest desperately needs a business deal more than you, and thus one can push them around.

If they aren't desperate for it, it won't do anything as they can just get up and leave without saying a word, leaving you hanging and looking like a buffoon.

The most important thing in any dealing with another person, is to never come across as if you are desperate for it, or need it more than them, but that it is your choice to be there and that it makes no difference to you whether you walk away with nothing or with an agreeable deal.

One must always know what they want from another person, and never let anyone else push you around for it.

Stand in your own shoes, let people act like the clowns they are by using their little beta business tactics, when the talks are about to begin give them a gesture with your gaze "and what of it?" Conveying to the other party you are exactly aware of their little clown tactics, and that it changes nothing.

Or just get up and leave just as they are about to get into the meat of the issue after all the bravado is over. Tell them "If you're serious about discussing a dealing with me, you know where to reach me", get up and leave calmly, without looking back at them or saying another word.

Chances are, if someone is lacking in confidence to have to clown around like this in order to try and position themselves in an advantageous position over you, they are the ones who care about face and humiliation, and who will feel the hurt for days to come after you handle them like that, while you go on with your life unbothered as you were.


Taking initiative, not letting others walk over you, being confident and knowing what you want out of an interaction before you get into it are more important than any such little "cutthroat" tactics.

Whether you are the one humiliated, or they are, depends entirely on how you receive the attempted humiliation of another.


Hail Satan!

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In all respects brother, to go the lengths of humiliation and using devious means are already a subgrade of ignorance. An honest approach as Jrvan said is quite respectful.

The Op who made this post is not really giving a more honest approach but using means that current world acts while under Jewish control. That would mean I’m going way backwards from what is supposed to be.

It is very degrading to do these things.

Maybe my understanding may seem too naive, but I’m an upfront to the pint kind of man. Devious means are played by fools and cowards in my opinion.

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I didn't think VoE was contradicting me, but rather adding on to what I said. Did I miss something?

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VoiceofEnki said:

jrvan said:

I didn't think VoE was contradicting me, but rather adding on to what I said. Did I miss something?

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You didn't miss anything, that's indeed what I did.

It is MercRx right now, therefore confusion is more common in communication right now.

I think Ramier just slightly misinterpreted my intent, while also adding his own view on this simultaneously.

MercRx communication causes things like that often, where communication becomes hazy sometimes and intents are easily missed due to the haze of Mercury Retrograde.

Hail Satan!

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Dahaarkan said:

When people underestimate you, think you weak and defenseless, they open themselves to your influence as a result of believing you are not a threat in any way. I imagine to you this sounds unthinkable. Just different modus operandi.

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