Pirate11 said:

If the Reich won the war and Europe was to speak German as international language

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I disagree in this. This is a typical argument of normies who know nothing of NationalSocialism(not implying you are), German wouldn't have been imposed on Europe simply because it would make no sense, National Socialism is about preserving your cultural heritage not replacing it nonsensically. That said, I believe German is a wonderful language and I'm studying it too

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In Southern Italy, there are also people with a light complexion and fair eyes. They are a minority, yes. The majority is still with dark eyes, dark hair and dark complexion - which doesn't mean black, since we're still talking about a white subrace (I'm saying this to prevent inappropriate responses from both Southerners and Northerners).

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There are nordic italians in north, center and south Italy. And they are a minority in our country. If this pirate guy thinks that if he goes in north italy he will find mostly nordic people he is fucking wrong. They are a minority in north Italy too and to divide our country to preserve this minority of people is a dumb idea, as many others that this guy stated with arrogance. Plus, being blonde hair and blue eyed doesn't make you a nordic either. And as Hp Hoodedcobra stated the blonde hair and blue eyed is a myth.
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Nordic people in north Italy are now becoming a minority (they are not already) exactly because of the Mediterraneans immigrating from the south of Italy. Nordics are natives of northen Italy too. It's not about blue eyes and blonde hair, they are legit nordics. Big brain has clearly never been in Northern Italy here

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I'm not even going to waste my time replying to all of this crap and nonsense. Just mind you are not in the position for telling other people online what they are to do. And yes, I think Italians should learn English instead of only relying on others for translations, as independence and "sapersela sbrigare da soli, essere autosufficienti, non dipendere da nessuno" are strong Satanic values I highly regard. Not knowing at least English as second language is simply ridiculous in 2020, this makes people stuck in their own little world and not being able to expand their mind. If you are happy translating stuff (I have read some translations, I do not recall who made these, but many are at Google Translate level, I hope you did not make them, else you would be ridiculous being proud of your work) and you think you are providing a good service to what you feel is your own community, then go ahead, you'll be happy and proud. But again, you have no right to tell me or anyone else what to do, or what community (subforum) should one be active part of.
Honestly, I believe English have been taught for free in Italian's public school since at least 25 to 30 years, so no one has an excuse for not being able to understand at least basic every-day level English. I mean, there are also totally free on-line courses, people have really no excuse, unless their excuse is being lazy or lacking a functioning brain (very common I see). I don't know (and do not care) about you, but I am a polyglot, I can speak German as well and trust me it is more complicated than English. If the Reich won the war and Europe was to speak German as international language, you fella would get crazy lol

Anyway, I'm done talking to online underage Italians on this topic about things that they can simply not understand, it is a waste of my time I could better invest by meditating and doing something actually useful.
Meanwhile, Native Nordic people of North Italy are being racially and culturally replaced by Mediterranean people from South Italy. This MUST be stopped.
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While white europeans are being replaced by african people trough mass immigration, WE MUST STOP THE MELTING POT BEETWEEN WHITES! Big brain uh. And as I said, there are nordics in ALL ITALY and nordics are a minority in north too. Maybe there are a little bit more nordics in north Italy, still a minority tho.

I'm half russian and half italian.

The reality is that in the South if you go in the mountains you can find people with 100% pure white blood, I've seen it with my eyes. Because they don't get the same amount of Immigrants that others get.

ITALIANS are not ARABIANS. The Mediterranean race isn't the "less-pure" subrace of the Aryan race.



I feel so fucking bad when I see the reality of Italy, our country is dying. I live in the most ruined country of Italy, we are full of Nigerian mafia.

We have a bad army, we always had a bad industry, and the only honorable thing that we did is the Roman Empire.

Our youth is fucked up and It's brainwashed to maximum levels.

I honesty think about the future of Italy and the only thing that I can see it's that in this modern era we are completely fucked up.

The most saddening thing is our Youth, and Christianity.

Some people that live outside Italy think that we are good, that we have a strong National Spirit, it's not true. We are completely divided and ruined by Christianity and Jews.

I feel so sad about this, and everybody should, WE, National Socialists and Satanists are the only ones that can change Italy.
We need to fight for our country and for Europa.
We need to be ready to fight and to give our blood for our land.
Only fighting we'll make Italy arise from the ashes.

Tanti nemici, tanto onore.

Oooh no, damn. I was hoping that you think why I wrote this phrase about "italian study english", but no effects :roll: You make me tenderness. You think you are a good Satanist but in really if I were in your place I would be ashamed to have written those words. Yes, u are wrong, not because I have the power to judge you, in fact like a God, but because it has already been discussed and given the sentence, which was in my favor, because this is a foregone conclusion, it's about good ethics and duty, it's not something invented by me, but some like a nature law. Understanding the laws of nature about people is a good first step for every Satanist.
Saying that the Italians must study English demonstrate your mental closure, at higher level. I could not care about you and let yourself continue with this sense of contempt to Italian's people of Satan, because it's not my problem but your, but, unfortunately, since you are a Satanist, even I, I feel I have to explain things to you as they are, because we are on the same side so I don't like to see my comrade in this state of mind's enemy. Yes, your words are just an attitude of contempt that comes from the depths of your soul, which was instilled by our enemy. Yes, from your words, is simply a successful enemy tacticI, one of the most effective means they have to destroy peoples. I would really like to slap you to make you wake up from your hallucinatory nonsense.

And you also mystify my words, I never said that you must to do things. EXPECTING is not OBLIGED. I wrote specifically that this only affects your conscience and face with Satan, you cannot escape from Him about your behaviors and attitudes, this is why i write "i don't fucking care" above, it's only you and Satan, same every all for us here. I give you only a advice, about translations. This is an anonymous place, there is nothing personal here.

Now, concerns about the part of "italian must learn english" (or other people like german, french etc), even other nonsense phrase about I and translation's level of Google Translate, these has already been covered here in this section, even in italian’s section, because yes, an Italian had your exact same <<((wrong))>> attitude. So I just need only put a links so you can read this discussion. Everything is explained there. Then act on your conscience. Just you would do me a favor, come back here and say if you understand or you still disagree, because perhaps have a one thing I would explain to you about specifically in your case.

link #1 https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=19030&p=77289#p77289 This is in italian. from me, as usual in these cases, the language is not polite but the important thing was to catch the sign. Read also the other post by other Satanist.

link#2 https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=19139&p=77346#p77346 ENG

link #3
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=22731&start=50 portoguese guy, the debate is more about the place of residence (where I didn't want to go into that much) but you can understand the context of helping the own people.

the beautiful things is, this topic of sub-race is already answered by the link #3.

Keep in mind, read to the context of arguments, not about the way to it. As stated, my way is a little terrible, as you can read in this my reply on this #1 and #3 links. The important thing was the essence of the content, not the way. because, as said before, I am forced to do it to gain the one’s real situation. you know, extremism brings extremism so the whole spectrum is involved.


Ciao!

alert: There will always be different languages when Satan comes here. Denying this is tantamount to promoting race mix. Satan promotes diversity. It's one of the pillar of Satanism. Different languages will always be there for eternity.

There is no issue for White subraces to live together out of necessity. The only thing subraces should care about is to preserve Nordic lineages. Translated: Nordic and other subraces can live together, but they should let the Nordics have children among themselves instead of having children with them. That's because more Nordic bodies are needed for people to reincarnate.

The ideal would be if all White subraces could live in the part of Europe that is most attuned to their genetics, which means a compatible climate and compatible local food. This is not possible yet, so there's point discussing it.

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You really love to pretend to be so perfect, you act like you are at the level of a god and that your own opinion is the only truth there is. You pretend that you are 100% correct, and that anybody with the smallest amount of different opinion is 100% wrong. This is an attitude I have seen from you for years. I think it would be better for you if you could be a little more flexible to be able to consider other people's perspectives and ideas. Because there is not only one person who is correct. Many people can each have a different opinion, with all of them being correct for their own reason. You are not a god, your opinion is not the only way, and anyone with a different opinion is not wrong. I am saying all of this to help you, because many people with that kind of personality do not even realize how unreasonable they can be. And I hope that being more open minded can lead you to wider and greater perspectives that may be blocked now by this refusal to see anyone else's side. I think that you and the other guy were both correct in most of what you both said, and you might learn another perspective from him. You can take and consider each person's view, and see how the views fit together and contribute to each other, and it can make your own view better from this.

I am so happy that you have such a love for helping your people. I hope you continue this forever, I hope more people work with you in helping your people more, and I wish you the best success with it. But as long as somebody is helpful to the whole world, I think it is okay for them to help wherever they want. So if somebody wants to provide help at a global and international scale, that is not worse than the person who wants to help their local area. Because both people are helping. I love how much you care for your country and your people, and I would never want you to stop. But I have another experience and view than yours which leads to a little bit different opinion. My country is one of the biggest in the world, and Italy is smaller than many of the states in my country. So this gets me thinking in an international perspective, and when I think of helping, I think of helping the entire world.

I can help my town, I can help my state, and I can help my country. And I do try to be as friendly and helpful as possible in whatever situation. But I think about where is a more effective use of my efforts. On a large scale, would it be more helpful for me to spend my efforts on helping my town? Or my state? Or my country? Or even internationally? In some situations, and in some ways of helping, it would provide more overall benefit for the entire world for someone to focus their efforts  internationally. Remember, we are in a race against time. And we need to wake up as many people as possible, as fast as possible. So what group of people is most effective to focus on? A town of a few thousand people? A state of a few million people? A country of hundreds of millions of people? Or the whole world, 8 billion people?

My opinion is we need people at every level, the world needs good people in every place to be helpful and contributing to the prosperity of all of society. We need good teachers, good police, good tradesmen, good politicians, good scientists, good engineers, good parents, good families, good neighbors, and good international relations. We simply need good, moral, helpful, caring people at every level and every position in the whole world. From the family, to the town, to the country, to the world.  There is not any place in all the world, in any level, that does not need people helping. It is very important to have people with an international focus on waking up as many people as possible all over the world, and of course it is also important having the person focused inward into their homeland to wake up their own people. Both the inward and outward directions of working are both necessary.

So I do agree with you, but I also think it is not right for you to try to act like the other guy is wrong for his opinions. It is not wrong for him to focus outward into helping internationally, and it is not wrong for anyone else to do the same. But of course we do also need people helping at home. I think it is disgusting for you to pretend that your narrow-minded opinion is some law from Satan himself, and you have even said that it is, and you pretend that anyone who does not perfectly fit with your narrow and rigid opinion is therefore going against Satan. You are wrong about this. Satan does demand that we help and work for our people, that part is true, but this is not only limited to those within some small country. Have you forgotten the meaning of O.R.I.O.N.? This is one of the highest laws of Satan. Our people means ALL of our people, all over the world, and it is not limited by any country border.

I do not want to change your opinion because I do not think that you are wrong with most of it. I just hope to inspire you to start to consider other people's perspectives, and to consider the information and views which lead them to form their opinions. Because it will make you have a wider and more informed view which will make your own opinions more accurate.

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There is no issue for White subraces to live together out of necessity. The only thing subraces should care about is to preserve Nordic lineages. Translated: Nordic and other subraces can live together, but they should let the Nordics have children among themselves instead of having children with them. That's because more Nordic bodies are needed for people to reincarnate.

The ideal would be if all White subraces could live in the part of Europe that is most attuned to their genetics, which means a compatible climate and compatible local food. This is not possible yet, so there's point discussing it.

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Also the Celtic subrace. There are less redheaded people than blondes.

ahana666 said:

I'm half russian and half italian.
We have a bad army, we always had a bad industry, and the only honorable thing that we did is the Roman Empire.

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And the Renaissance.

Stormblood said:

There is no issue for White subraces to live together out of necessity. The only thing subraces should care about is to preserve Nordic lineages. Translated: Nordic and other subraces can live together, but they should let the Nordics have children among themselves instead of having children with them. That's because more Nordic bodies are needed for people to reincarnate.

The ideal would be if all White subraces could live in the part of Europe that is most attuned to their genetics, which means a compatible climate and compatible local food. This is not possible yet, so there's point discussing it.

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I agree with you, there is really no problem with a Nordic and another White to "mix" but for the now it's better that Nordic reproduce among themselves because they are not a lot and they are always the seed race of the Whites. I think it has been said before by an HP, apart from this when Nordic are a lot there will be no problems if anoter type of White "mix" with them.

Of course if you are a SS and are another sub-race of White and the only partner compatible with you that you find is Nordic then go ahed, there is really no problem.

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Ciao, I admit that I wrote haughtily, but I didn't do it on purpose, in this case I cannot use a soft language because this would not affect a person's sensitivity. I will study a way to get the message across without using insults or disrespect mode, to hit the mark of subject with a good result, to go through the Italian way of thinking unhindered. (At least from my experience, not only italian but too in countries where there is little sense of belonging to one's own people).

The point of above discussion of "italian must learn English", it was not related to the situation you described, you speak more on the physical plane, which that I can agree about your thesis. I'm speaking specifically about --the attitude-- it doesn't matter whether physically or online.
This him attitude, or rather, the way of thinking, of:

And yes, I think Italians should learn English instead of only relying on others for translations, as independence and "sapersela sbrigare da soli, essere autosufficienti, non dipendere da nessuno" are strong Satanic values I highly regard. Not knowing at least English as second language is simply ridiculous in 2020, this makes people stuck in their own little world and not being able to expand their mind.

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[english translation of phrase italian part: knowing how to do it yourself, to be self-sufficient, not to depend on anyone]

Which i am totally agree to, BUT, this counts ONLY on Satanic side. I'm of the same idea, everyone Satanist should know english, at least little, for a matter of independence for a matter of communication with the HP, or about update with ritual's program from forum, or anythings, so they cannot depend on us translators which we're not always on time, although we are always trying to do the best we can about it.

But the real question, which I filled him with "insults" mode, because he is so stupid that he hasn't understood that:
-the workings of we translators are NOT for who are already Satanist, BUT for who are NOT Satanist. Yes, we spend energy and time for those goyim, that 99% of cases their despise us, even some of them would want us dead. We do it because, just, a reader who reads a one text in native languages is easier for him, it is something of natural law (that's why I brought it up), that is, I don't know if I explain myself well, it is something elementary..just imagine the scenario.
Which, a person who reads a non-native language text, implies that:
- must know first English well, which implies, in our case, that:
only a very low percentage of the population is accessible to Satanic knowledge.
This is final judgment. From this situation, in your opinion, who is happy?
Jews, Christians in power, who are happy to see the flock still at the fence, due to lack of accessible knowledge. Fun facts, probably, these enemies are happy to do a nice handshake with this guy Pirate11, because he doesn't create problems for their.

if you understand the whole question, I am also speaking for you Pirate11, the work of us translators is help this flock to get out of the fence, at first step. This is our goal. After that, he can study English well or whatever he likes, i don't fucking care, because, the important thing is that there are many means of information, and only a rich library can help in this way.

The italians are around 60 million ppl, apart from infants and the elderly, there is a good 20 million people of which we can referrer to.

I have not considered other reasons, such as, more materials can help those who make war online, do you think one reads willingly if someone posts a non-native language text? 99% will ship.

As you can see, these considerations was obvious, it's not that I'm snooty....it's just a natural law of language, one native language are always ease, immediacy, fluidity for one than in not-native language.

Ciao!

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Stormblood said:

There is no issue for White subraces to live together out of necessity. The only thing subraces should care about is to preserve Nordic lineages. Translated: Nordic and other subraces can live together, but they should let the Nordics have children among themselves instead of having children with them. That's because more Nordic bodies are needed for people to reincarnate.

The ideal would be if all White subraces could live in the part of Europe that is most attuned to their genetics, which means a compatible climate and compatible local food. This is not possible yet, so there's point discussing it.

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Also the Celtic subrace. There are less redheaded people than blondes.

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I love redheads.

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Italian, Spanish, Portuguese, French and Romanian are the Neo-Latin/Romance languages and they didn't exist before the fall of the Roman Empire. Get your facts straight. Italian is a very young language. The Old French variant of the French language didn't even exist before the 8th century CE. Spanish in the 9th century CE. Romanian around the 10th century BCE. Portuguese is a little older, depending on whether you consider the first appearance of written documents or the spoken language. Old Portuguese was also known as Galician-Portuguese. Italian didn't appear until much, much later, coming from post-Latin languages now considered dialects, especially from Tuscanian. Still, after the fall of the Roman empire and successive invasions of Germanic tribes. These languages all come from Latin mixed either with some remnants of the original pre-Roman language and/or with the Germanic language of the invading tribes.

A simple research, instead of useless far-fetched preconceptions, would've given you many answers.

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That's the accepted paradigm. However, the Roma Madre theory is often defeated by empirical data and often-ignored linguistic research. I am confident that Spanish and Romanian are not derived from Latin, and if you were to study how languages form, you will realize that the concept of a language transforming into another makes absolutely no sense. At best, a language can derive neologisms and borrow expressions, but it will never change its grammatical structure and nuances as a result from foreign exposure, let alone one from a hostile invader, like the Roman Empire.

A language is either adopted or forms naturally. It is never spliced so violently as you seem to think.

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I speak Spanish and I understand a little Romanian because a relative of mine is married to a Romanian woman and we would meet often, would also hear her speak to the phone. Her sister is good at reading cards but they're not gypsies of course, like many Italians think. Italian, Spanish, Romanian and Portuguese are very similar to Latin. Why? Because they were developed from it and other local languages. The Roman Empire was warlike but was also disciplined and wasn't much hostile before the Flavians started ruining it and its customs. The goal of the Imperium was to recreate the global Vedic Empire of old, because up to a certain point the priests kings, the senators and the emperors knew we all came from the same Satanic culture, and so did the population.

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Italians, Spaniards, French, and Romanians can easily learn to speak the other three languages, but all have a hard time learning Latin. Now, I know that it's a dead language, and that immersion plays a big role the learning process, but the truth is that Latin's structure is fundamentally different when compared to the surviving Romance Languages. It carries a different taxis, so it would be a miracle if it managed to influence four other languages, all of which are unitary in structure between themselves and different to Latin at the same time.

If you sepak Spanish, I would recommend you check out Carme Jiménez Huertas' work.

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There is no issue for White subraces to live together out of necessity. The only thing subraces should care about is to preserve Nordic lineages. Translated: Nordic and other subraces can live together, but they should let the Nordics have children among themselves instead of having children with them. That's because more Nordic bodies are needed for people to reincarnate.

The ideal would be if all White subraces could live in the part of Europe that is most attuned to their genetics, which means a compatible climate and compatible local food. This is not possible yet, so there's point discussing it.

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this is absolutely true.
It has also been said by the hp.
@ ahaha666
I agree with everything you said, except the part where you said that we didn't do any good, and that we don't have good industry.
The automotive industry is the most luxurious in the world, especially Italy is an excellence in craftsmanship, art, music and food.
For the rest I totally agree with you

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I agree with you, my brother.
I was just trying to help, because it looks like you may have been more harsh than you had to be. But I understand why to be harsh sometimes, and sometimes I need to be that way also.

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Italians, Spaniards, French, and Romanians can easily learn to speak the other three languages, but all have a hard time learning Latin.

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That actually depends on one's aptitude for languages. Some terms may sound similar but, if someone doesn't have an aptitude for languages, they will always find it difficult to learn other languages. Slightly less difficult when it comes to languages belonging to the same branch, of course. Linguistic aptitude is given mostly by favourable Mercury/Jupiter aspects and Mercury in Sagittarius, but also by a prominent Sagittarius and/or a prominent 9th house.

In Italian school, some high school types have a curriculum geared exclusively to university prep. Two of these, the one with classical curriculum and the one with a scientific curriculum, have Latin as a language from the first year to the fifth. In Italy we have up to 13 years of compulsory high school (with a mininum of 11 when you complete secondary education in a technical, vocational or professional school). In these schools where Latin it's taught, they don't even teach you how to speak the language, but only the extensive grammar needed for translations (all 5 years) and latin literature from the third year. (In classical curriculums there is also Ancient Greek.)

The thing is Latin is actually phonetically similar to all of these languages and those of us who have studied in high school (sometimes even as early as middle school as an extracurricular project) always cringe at the ridiculous anglicised pronunciations we hear from some occult-related American tv shows and films. I personally cringe every time I hear from American colleges how they pronounce "alumni" as if the final 'i' was a letter of the English alphabet and how they use the word as a singular noun, when it's in fact a plural noun.

In the last couple of years, I've also had conversations with American Spiritual Satanists (unsurprisingly), who think cases are irrelevant and they can just twist the words however they see fit and it won't change the meaning (it's real in their minds, I guess). So, for example, "Nox draconis" and "Draco noctis" would mean the exact same thing, as if Latin had such a vague grammar as English has. Some others also proposed how it is irrelevant what it really means and it's okay to butcher Latin because "it's dead language that doesn't matter and it's only used to sound cool."

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If you sepak Spanish, I would recommend you check out Carme Jiménez Huertas' work.

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I may read some articles of her on how "we don't come from Latin" in the future, but for now I have other priorities. Thanks for the suggestion.

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Very accurate.