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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Yagami Light » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:56 am

But... WHAT are we preparing for?
Is it for the virus, or for natural disasters?

I live in an apartment in a high floor in a block of flats. My country is known for having many earthquakes... If I buy many bottles of water, and a big earthquake hits this block of flats, the last thing I'll be able to do is carry all these down and outside.

If I need to prepare myself for staying many days (weeks, months...) in my house, then I will need lots of water... If it is for the virus, then we will still have power-electricity, so the fridge would work and any kind of food would be okay.

If it is for natural disasters, if power gets cut, only dry food is good.

There's just... too many options... What am I preparing myself for? The virus, or natural disasters?
If it is for natural disasters, living in this high floor that I am (and I can't move out 'cause fucking money.....), then there's no point in gathering survival supplies in my house.
If I am preparing for the virus, then I will need to gather survival supplies in my house.

Could you please make it clearer to me? :?
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:04 pm

Satanists come from ranging financial levels all the way from very rich to people who aren't doing all that well and will be making better in the future. The Rituals we have there are to help.

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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:09 pm

I do not believe we are headed to such a terrible thing that will go all the way up to this. There are however nudges but that doesn't mean the situation is at an all time critical.

On the other hand, the economy will receive hits, especially if more towns in China go down the road of Wuhan. Whether or not this will be the case will be clear around two to three weeks from now. What personally worries me is that if more towns, let alone, towns that are production or market powerhouses come under [such as Beijing] this is where things start to become real serious, the global economy will get big hits. This may not be based on real issues, but due to investors fear or mishandling of the crisis [such as for example imposing indefinite stop of shipments of goods].

Banks don't really proceed with confiscations or anything else but only as a last resort, so that is not something to worry. What will be experienced is what is already going on such as DOW and other stocks going down, which is regular for times of protectionism such as now with China. The markets will react to this.

US Stocks, bonds and mutual funds don't seem to be in any immediate danger. Only if this reaches full epidemic status [with manifested results such as many towns being quarantined in China and so forth], it's the time to start worrying. Normally, in that condition, all that could possibly happen is a drop, but not just a disappearance of assets. And this would have to go on the far end for this to happen.

The US so far has shown maturity in dealing with the infection, in that straight flights from China are quarantined. That is positive news, and a good reaction. If they left that for a week more, the situation may have started getting serious. Trump has been wise here and he took a small advisory board to handle the situation.

What personally worries me if that if China somehow has problems in Beijing or in Hong Kong, this is where the economy will start getting substantial hits. But the problem may not be as much in the numbers aspect and the stocks, but more on the availability of specific goods.

Many stores in the US are only running on Chinese products, such as 1 dollar stores and other similar stores. These investments are on risk now. Other investments will unironically yield higher through times like this, and the cumulation of the problem is going to increase earnings.

Hearsync wrote:For those who are more financially stable, with the potential pending doom of a global economic collapse, what would be suggested for those who do have finances and wish to protect them, such as investments in things like stocks/bonds/mutual funds?
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby luis » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:14 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:...

HP, can we do anything spiritually? I know that we can't heal everyone but at least do something that will make find the cure faster? Or the Final RTR can cover this (even because this is all the evil plane of the jews and their curses, I wonder if this will backfire on them and they will be exposed)?

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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:18 pm

Kakadu wrote:(sorry for my english)
What to do with dogs when pandemia comes? What If we won't be able to come out because of sickness? I don't want to get rid of my dogs.


You should be able to interact with your dogs just fine, this virus does not hit dogs. Worst case scenario if you go out, just wear gloves and mask, and you should be all fine.
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Shael » Sat Feb 01, 2020 12:18 pm

Hearsync wrote:For those who are more financially stable, with the potential pending doom of a global economic collapse, what would be suggested for those who do have finances and wish to protect them, such as investments in things like stocks/bonds/mutual funds?
Another good way to secure your money is to keep a percentage of it in material assets such as gold or silver. Personally I think keeping 10-20% of your savings in these should suffice to make sure you will have a fair amount of currency even in the case of total collapse.
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Nikois666 » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:09 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Nikois666 wrote:Thank you for the information HP Maxine but how much food should one stock up? Like, for how long should my stock last? for 1 month? 6 months? 1 year?

Does this apply outside the US and Europe? I believe it does or at least for my country because my country is densely populated, plus not many people follow rules here and chances of an outbreak spreading are more than any other country. But I still want to confirm it from our SS family.


2 weeks is the minimal that should exist in any house, sort of how every house has to have a small first aid kit in it, or every car does.

1 month should be fine, ie, 30 days, can be achieved with as little as 60$ if you know what to buy and don't want anything too fancy, just necessities. People have posted plenty of information. A lot of that stuff is also stuff you buy and forget about, and have it there to either consume it regularly, or eat it later as part of normal food.

Epidemics are all scientifically projected to peak within 1 month time, if they actually break out, then the situation starts to normalize. There are prediction models online for this, which explain all the details. This is not fear mongering or negative prophecy, that is only PREPARATION. Have a first aid kid just in case, type of thing.

Even if nothing happens, which is the best and most desirable scenario, you just have this just in case. And you know these for the future.

After all is said and done, comments and post can be assembled as a handy survival guide, so that we have this on the library. Whomever wants to do this, please go for it, and I'll upload it. I'd do it myself but my time is really crammed and limited lately.


I will prepare for my survival now. Thank you for the info Commander.
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Aquarius » Sat Feb 01, 2020 1:27 pm

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High Priestess Maxine Dietrich wrote:----


Maxine, I am in a living situation within a housing program of sorts where I do not have permission to hoard or stock up on food, and I have indeed tried asking but was stated to be "worrying over nothing" by staff, regardless even so they cannot allow me to as it goes against the health and safety committee. I am in Canada and have thousands of dollars saved up for emergencies such as this and have the freedom to move out.

The conflict is, this place is immensely helpful and stable for me in more ways than one: 24/7 staff, food, safety, shelter, heat, water, internet, tv, security, all included in just a $550 rent. I work a full-time minimum wage job which in canada ranges from $13 to $15 an hour. How should I weigh this out? I am allowed to hoard basically everything else in my room, hygiene products, gloves, water, first-aid supplies, etc... I just can't store food. This place has networks with other locations that work in providing food and such to those who are poor, at one point we had a literal 10s of 10s of cereals that took us 3 months to run out of as well as a freezer stocked with 2 months worth of donations of meats and turkey, so I imagine if something really does go down here that the people who own this place would be able to assist and provide aid, in fact this place in my opinion might be the best place to be in these circumstances...

This place has been a legit miracle to me for everything and has all I could ever thrive on with such a cheap rent, so I'm sure you understand my uncertainty to just leave it due to being unable to do one thing that probably won't even be an issue going forward... I was hoping perhaps you might be able to provide your own opinion and guidance?

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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Braun666 » Sat Feb 01, 2020 6:30 pm

Ghost in the Machine wrote:
High Priestess Maxine Dietrich wrote:----


Maxine, I am in a living situation within a housing program of sorts where I do not have permission to hoard or stock up on food, and I have indeed tried asking but was stated to be "worrying over nothing" by staff, regardless even so they cannot allow me to as it goes against the health and safety committee. I am in Canada and have thousands of dollars saved up for emergencies such as this and have the freedom to move out.

The conflict is, this place is immensely helpful and stable for me in more ways than one: 24/7 staff, food, safety, shelter, heat, water, internet, tv, security, all included in just a $550 rent. I work a full-time minimum wage job which in canada ranges from $13 to $15 an hour. How should I weigh this out? I am allowed to hoard basically everything else in my room, hygiene products, gloves, water, first-aid supplies, etc... I just can't store food. This place has networks with other locations that work in providing food and such to those who are poor, at one point we had a literal 10s of 10s of cereals that took us 3 months to run out of as well as a freezer stocked with 2 months worth of donations of meats and turkey, so I imagine if something really does go down here that the people who own this place would be able to assist and provide aid, in fact this place in my opinion might be the best place to be in these circumstances...

This place has been a legit miracle to me for everything and has all I could ever thrive on with such a cheap rent, so I'm sure you understand my uncertainty to just leave it due to being unable to do one thing that probably won't even be an issue going forward... I was hoping perhaps you might be able to provide your own opinion and guidance?


I HIGHLY recommend you look into getting a storage unit. These normally go for 50-60$ a month in Canada and definitely worth the investment. But ask for information and make sure they have ventillated units etc.

A 5x5 should be enough for 6months worth of supplies and food. Look into this.

For discreteness and if you don’t drive I recommend stocking the in increments at the unit and NEVER tell anyone what you’re doing and why. Keep silent especially with the unit you rent out.
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Personal Growth » Sat Feb 01, 2020 8:08 pm

Ghost in the Machine wrote:
High Priestess Maxine Dietrich wrote:----


Maxine, I am in a living situation within a housing program of sorts where I do not have permission to hoard or stock up on food, and I have indeed tried asking but was stated to be "worrying over nothing" by staff, regardless even so they cannot allow me to as it goes against the health and safety committee. I am in Canada and have thousands of dollars saved up for emergencies such as this and have the freedom to move out.

The conflict is, this place is immensely helpful and stable for me in more ways than one: 24/7 staff, food, safety, shelter, heat, water, internet, tv, security, all included in just a $550 rent. I work a full-time minimum wage job which in canada ranges from $13 to $15 an hour. How should I weigh this out? I am allowed to hoard basically everything else in my room, hygiene products, gloves, water, first-aid supplies, etc... I just can't store food. This place has networks with other locations that work in providing food and such to those who are poor, at one point we had a literal 10s of 10s of cereals that took us 3 months to run out of as well as a freezer stocked with 2 months worth of donations of meats and turkey, so I imagine if something really does go down here that the people who own this place would be able to assist and provide aid, in fact this place in my opinion might be the best place to be in these circumstances...

This place has been a legit miracle to me for everything and has all I could ever thrive on with such a cheap rent, so I'm sure you understand my uncertainty to just leave it due to being unable to do one thing that probably won't even be an issue going forward... I was hoping perhaps you might be able to provide your own opinion and guidance?


Just a thought. Keep your living arrangement as it is. But if there's a large park that has secluded parts. Maybe you could get some fairly large Tupperware type of sealable buckets. And get your non perishables and bury them next to a tree where you can work in privacy. Just popped into my mind. To secure it in a watertight container and bury it somewhere. So then nothing else has to change. Easy. The only thing is to be discreet so not too large a thing carrying and to cover up so not noticeable someone been digging there.
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Personal Growth » Sat Feb 01, 2020 10:38 pm

Shael wrote:
Hearsync wrote:For those who are more financially stable, with the potential pending doom of a global economic collapse, what would be suggested for those who do have finances and wish to protect them, such as investments in things like stocks/bonds/mutual funds?
Another good way to secure your money is to keep a percentage of it in material assets such as gold or silver. Personally I think keeping 10-20% of your savings in these should suffice to make sure you will have a fair amount of currency even in the case of total collapse.


I don't know about investing in gold if that's a paper certificate you get or it's the hard physical gold in your hand.

Yes if it's in a certificate form.

But if you go to the jewellery store and buy say a gold chain. If you try and sell it they will want to give you peanuts for it. So in physical form not only do you risk it going missing but it could be a struggle to get what it's worth in selling it.

I don't know about investing though but logically only if you're buying shares in gold is it a safe bet.
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Ghost in the Machine » Sun Feb 02, 2020 4:58 pm

Aquarius wrote:
Ghost in the Machine wrote:----

Can't you do it secretly?


Braun666 wrote:
Ghost in the Machine wrote:----


I HIGHLY recommend you look into getting a storage unit. These normally go for 50-60$ a month in Canada and definitely worth the investment. But ask for information and make sure they have ventillated units etc.

A 5x5 should be enough for 6months worth of supplies and food. Look into this.

For discreteness and if you don’t drive I recommend stocking the in increments at the unit and NEVER tell anyone what you’re doing and why. Keep silent especially with the unit you rent out.


Personal Growth wrote:
Ghost in the Machine wrote:----


Just a thought. Keep your living arrangement as it is. But if there's a large park that has secluded parts. Maybe you could get some fairly large Tupperware type of sealable buckets. And get your non perishables and bury them next to a tree where you can work in privacy. Just popped into my mind. To secure it in a watertight container and bury it somewhere. So then nothing else has to change. Easy. The only thing is to be discreet so not too large a thing carrying and to cover up so not noticeable someone been digging there.


Funnily enough these are all ideas that have crossed my mind a few times, but I was pondering logistics and state of emergency. I have already stocked up on a vast majority of other things all day yesterday, I didn't think people from such a rather remote place would panic so quickly, I had to go to three different places to look for masks, gloves, etc, because everyone was out of stock. Despite this it was surprisingly easy to obtain everything I needed, even things I thought I would've had to order online. I'm only missing two things, of which will not be out of stock because nobody would think to really buy them. I will take action to search for a storage unit of sorts if I can find one, cost will not be an issue.

I found an emergency blanket which was something I hadn't thought of. This is something I would recommend to other members here to look into obtaining in case the power goes out for those in colder climates and rainy weather, especially those who do not have/will not have sufficient shelter, the one I found is of a brand called SOL, Survive Outdoors Longer. SOL seems to provide a lot of survival items for reasonable prices. I got the Survival Blanket at a Walmart for roughly 7 dollars. It is "responsibly made in china" as it quoteably says on the package, I've had a lot of things made in china that have lasted efficiently for years but in the end it's a matter of risk vs price with alternative options.

Use your own judgement and gut feeling. And remember what was stated DO NOT PURCHASE ANYTHING DURING A VOID OF COURSE MOON.

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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Aquarius » Sun Feb 02, 2020 10:10 pm

Ghost in the Machine wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
Ghost in the Machine wrote:----

Can't you do it secretly?


Braun666 wrote:
Ghost in the Machine wrote:----


I HIGHLY recommend you look into getting a storage unit. These normally go for 50-60$ a month in Canada and definitely worth the investment. But ask for information and make sure they have ventillated units etc.

A 5x5 should be enough for 6months worth of supplies and food. Look into this.

For discreteness and if you don’t drive I recommend stocking the in increments at the unit and NEVER tell anyone what you’re doing and why. Keep silent especially with the unit you rent out.


Personal Growth wrote:
Ghost in the Machine wrote:----


Just a thought. Keep your living arrangement as it is. But if there's a large park that has secluded parts. Maybe you could get some fairly large Tupperware type of sealable buckets. And get your non perishables and bury them next to a tree where you can work in privacy. Just popped into my mind. To secure it in a watertight container and bury it somewhere. So then nothing else has to change. Easy. The only thing is to be discreet so not too large a thing carrying and to cover up so not noticeable someone been digging there.


Funnily enough these are all ideas that have crossed my mind a few times, but I was pondering logistics and state of emergency. I have already stocked up on a vast majority of other things all day yesterday, I didn't think people from such a rather remote place would panic so quickly, I had to go to three different places to look for masks, gloves, etc, because everyone was out of stock. Despite this it was surprisingly easy to obtain everything I needed, even things I thought I would've had to order online. I'm only missing two things, of which will not be out of stock because nobody would think to really buy them. I will take action to search for a storage unit of sorts if I can find one, cost will not be an issue.

I found an emergency blanket which was something I hadn't thought of. This is something I would recommend to other members here to look into obtaining in case the power goes out for those in colder climates and rainy weather, especially those who do not have/will not have sufficient shelter, the one I found is of a brand called SOL, Survive Outdoors Longer. SOL seems to provide a lot of survival items for reasonable prices. I got the Survival Blanket at a Walmart for roughly 7 dollars. It is "responsibly made in china" as it quoteably says on the package, I've had a lot of things made in china that have lasted efficiently for years but in the end it's a matter of risk vs price with alternative options.

Use your own judgement and gut feeling. And remember what was stated DO NOT PURCHASE ANYTHING DURING A VOID OF COURSE MOON.

Just a general advice- if someone is short on money military surplus stores have cheap survival stuff that is helpful.
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Blitzkreig » Mon Feb 03, 2020 7:43 am

Here is prepper website that wrote an article specific to the coronavirus. It details what you should buy, with links provided.

https://www.happypreppers.com/coronavirus.html
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Ol argedco luciftias » Mon Feb 03, 2020 4:35 pm

Ghost in the Machine wrote:.....

Just get the food and put it in your room like it's nobody's business. They can't evict you for something so small like that. They can tell you that they don't think it's necessary, but they can't stop you from doing it.
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Ghost in the Machine » Mon Feb 03, 2020 5:56 pm

Ol argedco luciftias wrote:
Ghost in the Machine wrote:.....

Just get the food and put it in your room like it's nobody's business. They can't evict you for something so small like that. They can tell you that they don't think it's necessary, but they can't stop you from doing it.


We are not allowed food in our rooms and rooms get checked regularly by staff. I can most certainly get evicted for it as it goes against signed policy and health code regulations. I've found a storage unit in my local area that I can pay weekly for and have already put it on hold for myself, I got everything handled.

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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Blitzkreig » Mon Feb 03, 2020 6:48 pm

Ghost in the Machine wrote:...


If your place you stay at has a lot of people in it, a storage unit would probably be the better choice, assuming you can access it right when the emergency hits. The last thing you need is people getting wind of the stash of stuff in your room and trying to go for it in a panic.
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Blitzkreig » Tue Feb 04, 2020 7:48 am

Kakadu wrote:(sorry for my english)
What to do with dogs when pandemia comes? What If we won't be able to come out because of sickness? I don't want to get rid of my dogs.


Hard to say about your situation without knowing the specifics. Dogs are susceptible to the virus, so they should be kept away from any other people. As for you, you will need masks and goggles to prevent yourself getting infected by the viral droplets in the air. You need anti-viral masks (currently out of stock on amazon). Surgical masks are ok, but not perfect. N-95 respirators filter out 95% of all airborne dust particles and pathogens, and N-100 filter out 100%. The downside is they are more expensive and not disposable, you have to clean them. Goggles are also needed because the viral droplets can infect you through the mucous membranes on your eyes.

I think your dogs will be fine if they are kept somewhere generally isolated. The only trouble comes with widespread societal breakdown, then they may be in trouble. Like I said above, you need equipment to protect yourself, regardless of whether you leave the house or not. This same equipment should allow you to safely tend towards your animals.

Here is a link to an article that goes over necessary equipment for the virus:
https://www.happypreppers.com/coronavirus.html
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Tue Feb 04, 2020 4:07 pm

There are no "rendezvous" be this online or offline, no matter how much shit hits the fan. It does or it

You do not need to hear the Gods so they can guide you. They will do this. Satan does so through unseen means. Have trust.

The internet is not as easy to take down as people would assume. Networks will exist, and the internet. We are hosted and will have access in numerous places over the internet, so don't worry.

Sybellum wrote:Hey HP Maxine, As someone who likes to plan for the worst contingency, say the internet/grid/government collapses, how do we find each other? I cant speak for anyone else but I know I'd feel a lot better if I was with my own, and I know for security and anti-persecution reasons that we don't reveal our identity or location, but some sort of rendez-vous kind of thing would give me a much stronger sense of security. I put full faith in Satan and the Gods to ensure our continued success and safety, but for those who aren't open enough to see/hear demons, as I myself am (for the time being), can they still relay messages to us in said worst case scenario (Sans internet)?
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Fuchs » Tue Feb 04, 2020 5:37 pm

Shael wrote:
Hearsync wrote:For those who are more financially stable, with the potential pending doom of a global economic collapse, what would be suggested for those who do have finances and wish to protect them, such as investments in things like stocks/bonds/mutual funds?
Another good way to secure your money is to keep a percentage of it in material assets such as gold or silver. Personally I think keeping 10-20% of your savings in these should suffice to make sure you will have a fair amount of currency even in the case of total collapse.


I would rather buy honey, lasts up to 5000 years + you can eat it. And the price for it will increase, in case of economic collapse. Just store it in the shade and dry.

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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Blitzkreig » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:24 am

luis wrote:HP, can we do anything spiritually? I know that we can't heal everyone but at least do something that will make find the cure faster? Or the Final RTR can cover this (even because this is all the evil plane of the jews and their curses, I wonder if this will backfire on them and they will be exposed)?


The FRTR is the best major working to be pursuing. The virus is not that bad inherently. What makes it dangerous is the purposeful spreading of it by Jewish-backed agents thereby magnifying it's base potential. For protecting yourself and those close, clean your and others' auras well.
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Shael » Wed Feb 05, 2020 6:41 pm

Fuchs wrote:I would rather buy honey, lasts up to 5000 years + you can eat it. And the price for it will increase, in case of economic collapse. Just store it in the shade and dry.
Sounds like a cool idea :)
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Lunar Dance 666 » Wed Feb 05, 2020 8:59 pm

Personal Growth wrote:
Shael wrote:
Hearsync wrote:For those who are more financially stable, with the potential pending doom of a global economic collapse, what would be suggested for those who do have finances and wish to protect them, such as investments in things like stocks/bonds/mutual funds?
Another good way to secure your money is to keep a percentage of it in material assets such as gold or silver. Personally I think keeping 10-20% of your savings in these should suffice to make sure you will have a fair amount of currency even in the case of total collapse.


I don't know about investing in gold if that's a paper certificate you get or it's the hard physical gold in your hand.

Yes if it's in a certificate form.

But if you go to the jewellery store and buy say a gold chain. If you try and sell it they will want to give you peanuts for it. So in physical form not only do you risk it going missing but it could be a struggle to get what it's worth in selling it.

I don't know about investing though but logically only if you're buying shares in gold is it a safe bet.


Personal Growth,
You've never heard of buying PHYSICAL Gold Coins, have you?
It's definetely possible with silver.


HOWEVER, who the f knows the value of a gold and/or silver coin nowadays?

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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Fuchs » Thu Feb 06, 2020 3:08 am

Shael wrote:
Fuchs wrote:I would rather buy honey, lasts up to 5000 years + you can eat it. And the price for it will increase, in case of economic collapse. Just store it in the shade and dry.
Sounds like a cool idea :)


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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Personal Growth » Thu Feb 06, 2020 6:58 pm

Lunar Dance 666 wrote:
Personal Growth wrote:
Shael wrote:Another good way to secure your money is to keep a percentage of it in material assets such as gold or silver. Personally I think keeping 10-20% of your savings in these should suffice to make sure you will have a fair amount of currency even in the case of total collapse.


I don't know about investing in gold if that's a paper certificate you get or it's the hard physical gold in your hand.

Yes if it's in a certificate form.

But if you go to the jewellery store and buy say a gold chain. If you try and sell it they will want to give you peanuts for it. So in physical form not only do you risk it going missing but it could be a struggle to get what it's worth in selling it.

I don't know about investing though but logically only if you're buying shares in gold is it a safe bet.


Personal Growth,
You've never heard of buying PHYSICAL Gold Coins, have you?
It's definetely possible with silver.


HOWEVER, who the f knows the value of a gold and/or silver coin nowadays?


Hi Lunar Dance 666,

What it is I do have some vintage time pieces and a collecatable classic car and some gold items. I see these things as assets that I could sell for cash in hand.

But I say it's not easy to get what it's worth because I had a Xtian cross that was solid 22ct gold. Of course I didn't want that negative and accursed thing as one of my belongings.

So then I went to a couple of jewellery stores that advertised as buying gold. But they had similar items for sale in their window for hundreds of pounds. But they only were willing to give me a few quid for mine.

I tried a couple places and they all said that's what they buy for and that's what they sell for. So huge difference in what you buy at and what they'll give you for it.

Of course you could deal in coins. I think it's easy to see the average price of say a gold sovereign or krugerrand by looking at what's going on say eBay.

I don't know if there's a place that's guaranteed to buy your gold at the correct rate because banks don't back our money by gold anymore. Banks back our money by goodwill that we will go out and create its value by our hard labour.

Maybe by selling it in the best specialised market place for it you might get its true value. But I think the sale could be slow.
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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Ol argedco luciftias » Fri Feb 07, 2020 5:10 am

Personal Growth wrote:
Lunar Dance 666 wrote:
Personal Growth wrote:
I don't know about investing in gold if that's a paper certificate you get or it's the hard physical gold in your hand.

Yes if it's in a certificate form.

But if you go to the jewellery store and buy say a gold chain. If you try and sell it they will want to give you peanuts for it. So in physical form not only do you risk it going missing but it could be a struggle to get what it's worth in selling it.

I don't know about investing though but logically only if you're buying shares in gold is it a safe bet.


Personal Growth,
You've never heard of buying PHYSICAL Gold Coins, have you?
It's definetely possible with silver.


HOWEVER, who the f knows the value of a gold and/or silver coin nowadays?


Hi Lunar Dance 666,

What it is I do have some vintage time pieces and a collecatable classic car and some gold items. I see these things as assets that I could sell for cash in hand.

But I say it's not easy to get what it's worth because I had a Xtian cross that was solid 22ct gold. Of course I didn't want that negative and accursed thing as one of my belongings.

So then I went to a couple of jewellery stores that advertised as buying gold. But they had similar items for sale in their window for hundreds of pounds. But they only were willing to give me a few quid for mine.

I tried a couple places and they all said that's what they buy for and that's what they sell for. So huge difference in what you buy at and what they'll give you for it.

Of course you could deal in coins. I think it's easy to see the average price of say a gold sovereign or krugerrand by looking at what's going on say eBay.

I don't know if there's a place that's guaranteed to buy your gold at the correct rate because banks don't back our money by gold anymore. Banks back our money by goodwill that we will go out and create its value by our hard labour.

Maybe by selling it in the best specialised market place for it you might get its true value. But I think the sale could be slow.

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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Lunar Dance 666 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:00 am

Personal Growth wrote:
Lunar Dance 666 wrote:
Personal Growth wrote:
I don't know about investing in gold if that's a paper certificate you get or it's the hard physical gold in your hand.

Yes if it's in a certificate form.

But if you go to the jewellery store and buy say a gold chain. If you try and sell it they will want to give you peanuts for it. So in physical form not only do you risk it going missing but it could be a struggle to get what it's worth in selling it.

I don't know about investing though but logically only if you're buying shares in gold is it a safe bet.


Personal Growth,
You've never heard of buying PHYSICAL Gold Coins, have you?
It's definetely possible with silver.


HOWEVER, who the f knows the value of a gold and/or silver coin nowadays?


Hi Lunar Dance 666,

What it is I do have some ..

But I say it's not easy to get what it's worth because I had a Xtian cross that was solid 22ct gold. Of course I didn't want that negative and accursed thing as one of my belongings.

So then I went to a couple of jewellery stores that advertised as buying gold. But they had similar items for sale in their window for hundreds of pounds. But they only were willing to give me a few quid for mine.

I tried a couple places and they all said that's what they buy for and that's what they sell for. So huge difference in what you buy at and what they'll give you for it.

Of course you could deal in coins. I think it's easy to see the average price of say a gold sovereign or krugerrand by looking at what's going on say eBay.

I don't know if there's a place that's guaranteed to buy your gold at the correct rate because banks don't back our money by gold anymore. Banks back our money by goodwill that we will go out and create its value by our hard labour.

Maybe by selling it in the best specialised market place for it you might get its true value. But I think the sale could be slow.


Wow those stores are a ripoff but you know stores must pay rent also. thats often also added in the price.

Also I dont think owning an old car.. that anyone would be interested in the middle of a famine.
Just saying.
If people want food, they wont buy cars. Unless you sell it to a Jew and even then theyll try to get it for cheap from ya.

Also Id recommend not boasting about how well off you are..
Just like they advice against posting on social media that youre going on a holiday because burglars would break in and steal your stuff.

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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Lunar Dance 666 » Fri Feb 07, 2020 9:22 am

Qtips.

Qtips can be very handy when it comes to cleaning stuff and corners that you cannot reach well.

But mostly theyre known for cleaning your ears.

Here I want to add an alternative, Oriculi.

Its said that said thing can be reused for cleaning your ears, so even if you run out of Qtips you'll have something else that you can use.

I do recommend to get a spare one just in case yours breaks.
Also for hygiene purposes get one for every family member.

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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Satan_is_our_Father666 » Sat Feb 08, 2020 2:43 pm

Personal Growth wrote:
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High Priestess Maxine Dietrich wrote:----


Maxine, I am in a living situation within a housing program of sorts where I do not have permission to hoard or stock up on food, and I have indeed tried asking but was stated to be "worrying over nothing" by staff, regardless even so they cannot allow me to as it goes against the health and safety committee. I am in Canada and have thousands of dollars saved up for emergencies such as this and have the freedom to move out.

The conflict is, this place is immensely helpful and stable for me in more ways than one: 24/7 staff, food, safety, shelter, heat, water, internet, tv, security, all included in just a $550 rent. I work a full-time minimum wage job which in canada ranges from $13 to $15 an hour. How should I weigh this out? I am allowed to hoard basically everything else in my room, hygiene products, gloves, water, first-aid supplies, etc... I just can't store food. This place has networks with other locations that work in providing food and such to those who are poor, at one point we had a literal 10s of 10s of cereals that took us 3 months to run out of as well as a freezer stocked with 2 months worth of donations of meats and turkey, so I imagine if something really does go down here that the people who own this place would be able to assist and provide aid, in fact this place in my opinion might be the best place to be in these circumstances...

This place has been a legit miracle to me for everything and has all I could ever thrive on with such a cheap rent, so I'm sure you understand my uncertainty to just leave it due to being unable to do one thing that probably won't even be an issue going forward... I was hoping perhaps you might be able to provide your own opinion and guidance?


Just a thought. Keep your living arrangement as it is. But if there's a large park that has secluded parts. Maybe you could get some fairly large Tupperware type of sealable buckets. And get your non perishables and bury them next to a tree where you can work in privacy. Just popped into my mind. To secure it in a watertight container and bury it somewhere. So then nothing else has to change. Easy. The only thing is to be discreet so not too large a thing carrying and to cover up so not noticeable someone been digging there.



Reading this guy's predicament, not being allowed to stock up food and goods, made me think of what minimal stock up he could still do. I've been studying survival techniques for months now and the 'experts' suggest to always stock up on things that are small, easy to conceal (forget about them in the bottom of a bag) and last a good deal of time: nuts and chocolate. And I'm only adding chocolate because imaging living only on nuts.. you'd GO nuts, I think. They're supposed to have a skyhigh caloric value and boost your energy in survival situations. This I think works best on short periods, but I'd still go for it if circumstances demanded that much. Other thing that I regularly stock up on is rice. Easy to cook, filling (easy to flavor with whatever you find available, but perfectly edible with nothing else.. the Chinese and other Asian countries have done it for ages while fighting poverty and poor conditions, I don't see how we could not do that now). If you get one of those huge rice bags and fit it into a bag (like under the bed or in your closet) I don't think anyone could have something to say. Nuts and chocolate you can fit pretty much in any pocket or pouch. That's what I would do at least. If it's about survival it's not like one can ALWAYS have the luxury of cooking one's food anyway, sometimes you gotta eat it as it is and JUST survive. Best of luck people.

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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Hearsync » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:26 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:I do not believe we are headed to such a terrible thing that will go all the way up to this. There are however nudges but that doesn't mean the situation is at an all time critical.

On the other hand, the economy will receive hits, especially if more towns in China go down the road of Wuhan. Whether or not this will be the case will be clear around two to three weeks from now. What personally worries me is that if more towns, let alone, towns that are production or market powerhouses come under [such as Beijing] this is where things start to become real serious, the global economy will get big hits. This may not be based on real issues, but due to investors fear or mishandling of the crisis [such as for example imposing indefinite stop of shipments of goods].

Banks don't really proceed with confiscations or anything else but only as a last resort, so that is not something to worry. What will be experienced is what is already going on such as DOW and other stocks going down, which is regular for times of protectionism such as now with China. The markets will react to this.

US Stocks, bonds and mutual funds don't seem to be in any immediate danger. Only if this reaches full epidemic status [with manifested results such as many towns being quarantined in China and so forth], it's the time to start worrying. Normally, in that condition, all that could possibly happen is a drop, but not just a disappearance of assets. And this would have to go on the far end for this to happen.

The US so far has shown maturity in dealing with the infection, in that straight flights from China are quarantined. That is positive news, and a good reaction. If they left that for a week more, the situation may have started getting serious. Trump has been wise here and he took a small advisory board to handle the situation.

What personally worries me if that if China somehow has problems in Beijing or in Hong Kong, this is where the economy will start getting substantial hits. But the problem may not be as much in the numbers aspect and the stocks, but more on the availability of specific goods.

Many stores in the US are only running on Chinese products, such as 1 dollar stores and other similar stores. These investments are on risk now. Other investments will unironically yield higher through times like this, and the cumulation of the problem is going to increase earnings.


Good to know, and glad things would really have to get out of hand in order for everything to be lost. Like you mentioned in one of your other posts, the internet will still be up and very difficult to totally dismantle.

I guess the thing to take into consideration is where exactly things will fall (perhaps, such as foreign investments, especially tied into China), which may be good a time to pull out before things potentially worsen. But what spikes my curiosity the most would be having an idea of what things would be likely to increase in value in times like these - where would it be best to invest in at times like these?

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Re: Preparedness: 30 January 2020

Postby Hearsync » Sat Feb 08, 2020 4:37 pm

Personal Growth wrote:
I don't know about investing in gold if that's a paper certificate you get or it's the hard physical gold in your hand.

Yes if it's in a certificate form.

But if you go to the jewellery store and buy say a gold chain. If you try and sell it they will want to give you peanuts for it. So in physical form not only do you risk it going missing but it could be a struggle to get what it's worth in selling it.

I don't know about investing though but logically only if you're buying shares in gold is it a safe bet.


Even in paper form I feel investing in gold/silver to not be a good idea. I can't remember, but I think there was a previous post (perhaps even years ago) about the potential detriment of investing in gold. The jews have their dirty hands all over that market and promote a perceived value of it, but if shit were to hit the fan, who is actually going to want gold and use it for anything? So investing in paper would be useless as perceived value would decrease - it would be like having invested in some worthless rocks. Jews live their gold shekels and could change the value on the world market if they so choose. Again, I could be wrong about this, but I've avoided investing in this area.


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