wolly said:
Hi , I am a new user to this and I don't know if that is real or not. I read from the internet some concepts about these and they sounded like a fairytale/fantasy story. How could that be real?
Also,if this is real why would demons help us? Are they not busy with something else? What if Satan and his demons are making fun of me?
I read the grimmoires (Lesser key of Solomon,Ars Goetia,Grimorium Verum) and none of these explained if there is a rate of success in summoning that being. My problem is that I have this lack of faith inside me and when I want to try something I feel like I'm talking to the walls for help. However,I do have a strong desire and will to practice a lot and try everything I can in my strenght.
The demons can be evoked, yes but they do not come to us physically. It's nothing like the fairytale lies of them coming through something like some magical portal or appearing out of fire to stand before us in person. They physically live on another planet in the same way we live on our planet, but they are in the Orion constellation on a planet named Duat. They visit us through the astral plane which is the plane where spirits and ghosts reside on, it is also the plane where our own souls reside on and these two planes overlap each other. When one opens and strengthens their third eye, the third eye allows us to see the astral plane, some people are able to do this naturally and see ghosts and such as they naturally have open and powerful third eyes and psychic centres, probably from a past life of meditation.
If you've ever read about astral projecting where you can will your soul to leave your body, this is essentially what they do when they visit us. Because the astral can be traversed indefinitely from one galaxy to another and it's FAR more convenient then taking a space ship for years to see us physically in person on our own planet. When you evoke a demon they will project to you, and if your psychic centres are not open or are weak, you will not be able to see them and if you are not sensitized to energy then you won't be able to feel them in the room with you either as their energy is very powerful and is unmistakable.
In these situations you need to find other means of them being in the room with you such as electronics acting strangely, lights flickering, small objects might shift or move, though they rarely will make objects move. Some people use ouija boards, others use scrying mirrors, but if you ask me I'd say to newer members to just wait and keep meditating and advancing your soul further for a while before trying anything like summoning one of the demons. Yes they can be busy and more often than not they may not be able to answer your first summons but they may be able to answer the second or third. When you summon a demon you should have a fairly good reason to. I for one wouldn't want to astral project to someone calling out to me and then have them ask me what my favourite colour is. They wouldn't be angry, I imagine they practice lots of patience especially with newer members, but I still wouldn't do something like that for the sake of it.
Do not trust or listen to information outside of the
Joy of Satan website, as a lot of information is false and corrupted and can even bring you harm. Trying to summon a demon in any other way than as described on the website and you could end up doing something severely wrong and put yourself in danger, especially if you are not dedicated to Satan. Outsiders who have tried to summon demons using the offensive binding circles described in xian literatures
have gotten killed, demons must never be bound, they are beings like us but far more powerful, they must be treated with respect. If you are serious on this path you need to dedicate. Those who are dedicated are under the protection of Satan, from there it is your actions which will determine everything else. Members who are lazy and do nothing on this path are low priority in protecting for example.
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