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Physicists Use Quantum Mechanics to Pull Energy out of Nothing

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  • Physicists Use Quantum Mechanics to Pull Energy out of Nothing
  • Black holes may be the source of mysterious dark energy

Physicists Use Quantum Mechanics to Pull Energy out of Nothing
The quantum energy teleportation protocol was proposed in 2008 and largely ignored. Now two independent experiments have shown that it works.
22/02/2023

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The new quantum protocol effectively borrows energy from a distant location and thus violates no sacred physical principles.

For their latest magic trick, physicists have done the quantum equivalent of conjuring energy out of thin air. It's a feat that seems to fly in the face of physical law and common sense.

"You can't extract energy directly from the vacuum because there's nothing there to give,” said William Unruh, a theoretical physicist at the University of British Columbia, describing the standard way of thinking.

But 15 years ago, Masahiro Hotta, a theoretical physicist at Tohoku University in Japan, proposed that perhaps the vacuum could, in fact, be coaxed into giving something up.

At first, many researchers ignored this work, suspicious that pulling energy from the vacuum was implausible, at best. Those who took a closer look, however, realized that Hotta was suggesting a subtly different quantum stunt. The energy wasn’t free; it had to be unlocked using knowledge purchased with energy in a far-off location. From this perspective, Hotta’s procedure looked less like creation and more like teleportation of energy from one place to another — a strange but less offensive idea.

“That was a real surprise,” said Unruh, who has collaborated with Hotta but has not been involved in energy teleportation research. “It’s a really neat result that he discovered.”

Now in the past year, researchers have teleported energy across microscopic distances in two separate quantum devices, vindicating Hotta’s theory. The research leaves little room for doubt that energy teleportation is a genuine quantum phenomenon.

“This really does test it,” said Seth Lloyd, a quantum physicist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology who was not involved in the research. “You are actually teleporting. You are extracting energy.”

Quantum Credit
The first skeptic of quantum energy teleportation was Hotta himself.

In 2008, he was searching for a way of measuring the strength of a peculiar quantum mechanical link known as entanglement, where two or more objects share a unified quantum state that makes them behave in related ways even when separated by vast distances. A defining feature of entanglement is that you must create it in one fell swoop. You can’t engineer the related behavior by messing around with one object and the other independently, even if you call up a friend at the other location and tell them what you did.

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Masahiro Hotta proposed the quantum energy teleportation protocol in 2008.
Courtesy of Masahiro Hotta

While studying black holes, Hotta came to suspect that an exotic occurrence in quantum theory — negative energy — could be the key to measuring entanglement. Black holes shrink by emitting radiation entangled with their interiors, a process that can also be viewed as the black hole swallowing dollops of negative energy. Hotta noted that negative energy and entanglement appeared to be intimately related. To strengthen his case, he set out to prove that negative energy — like entanglement — could not be created through independent actions at distinct locations.

Hotta found, to his surprise, that a simple sequence of events could, in fact, induce the quantum vacuum to go negative — giving up energy it didn’t appear to have. “First I thought I was wrong,” he said, “so I calculated again, and I checked my logic. But I could not find any flaw.”

The trouble arises from the bizarre nature of the quantum vacuum, which is a peculiar type of nothing that comes dangerously close to resembling a something. The uncertainty principle forbids any quantum system from settling down into a perfectly quiet state of exactly zero energy. As a result, even the vacuum must always crackle with fluctuations in the quantum fields that fill it. These never-ending fluctuations imbue every field with some minimum amount of energy, known as the zero-point energy. Physicists say that a system with this minimal energy is in the ground state. A system in its ground state is a bit like a car parked on the streets of Denver. Even though it’s well above sea level, it can’t go any lower.

And yet, Hotta seemed to have found an underground garage. To unlock the gate, he realized, he had only to exploit an intrinsic entanglement in the crackling of the quantum field.

The incessant vacuum fluctuations cannot be used to power a perpetual motion machine, say, because the fluctuations at a given location are completely random. If you imagine hooking up a fanciful quantum battery to the vacuum, half the fluctuations would charge the device while the other half would drain it.

But quantum fields are entangled — the fluctuations in one spot tend to match fluctuations in another spot. In 2008, Hotta published a paper outlining how two physicists, Alice and Bob, might exploit these correlations to pull energy out of the ground state surrounding Bob. The scheme goes something like this.

Bob finds himself in need of energy — he wants to charge that fanciful quantum battery — but all he has access to is empty space. Fortunately, his friend Alice has a fully equipped physics lab in a far-off location. Alice measures the field in her lab, injecting energy into it there and learning about its fluctuations. This experiment bumps the overall field out of the ground state, but as far as Bob can tell, his vacuum remains in the minimum-energy state, randomly fluctuating.

But then Alice texts Bob her findings about the vacuum around her location, essentially telling Bob when to plug in his battery. After Bob reads her message, he can use the newfound knowledge to prepare an experiment that extracts energy from the vacuum — up to the amount injected by Alice.

“That information allows Bob, if you want, to time the fluctuations,” said Eduardo Martín-Martínez, a theoretical physicist at the University of Waterloo and the Perimeter Institute who worked on one of the new experiments. (He added that the notion of timing is more metaphorical than literal, due to the abstract nature of quantum fields.)

Bob can’t extract more energy than Alice put in, so energy is conserved. And he lacks the necessary knowledge to extract the energy until Alice’s text arrives, so no effect travels faster than light. The protocol doesn’t violate any sacred physical principles.

Nevertheless, Hotta’s publication was met with crickets. Machines that exploit the zero-point energy of the vacuum are a mainstay of science fiction, and his procedure rankled physicists tired of fielding crackpot proposals for such devices. But Hotta felt certain he was onto something, and he continued to develop his idea and promote it in talks. He received further encouragement from Unruh, who had gained prominence for discovering another odd vacuum behavior.

“This kind of stuff is almost second nature to me,” Unruh said, “that you can do strange things with quantum mechanics.”

Hotta also sought a way to test it. He connected with Go Yusa, an experimentalist specializing in condensed matter at Tohoku University. They proposed an experiment in a semiconductor system with an entangled ground state analogous to that of the electromagnetic field.

But their research has been repeatedly delayed by a different kind of fluctuation. Soon after their initial experiment was funded, the March 2011 Tohoku earthquake and tsunami devastated the eastern coast of Japan — including Tohoku University. In recent years, further tremors damaged their delicate lab equipment twice. Today they are once more starting essentially from scratch.

Making the Jump
In time, Hotta’s ideas also took root in a less earthquake-prone part of the globe. At Unruh’s suggestion, Hotta gave a lecture at a 2013 conference in Banff, Canada. The talk captured the imagination of Martín-Martínez. “His mind works differently from everybody else,” Martín-Martínez said. “He’s a person that has a lot of out-of-the-box ideas that are extremely creative.”

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An experimental test of the teleportation protocol was run on one of IBM’s quantum computers, seen here at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas in 2020.
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Martín-Martínez, who half-seriously styles himself as a “space-time engineer,” has long felt drawn to physics at the edge of science fiction. He dreams of finding physically plausible ways of creating wormholes, warp drives and time machines. Each of these exotic phenomena amounts to a bizarre shape of space-time that is permitted by the extremely accommodating equations of general relativity. But they are also forbidden by so-called energy conditions, a handful of restrictions that the renowned physicists Roger Penrose and Stephen Hawking slapped on top of general relativity to stop the theory from showing its wild side.

Chief among the Hawking-Penrose commandments is that negative energy density is forbidden. But while listening to Hotta’s presentation, Martín-Martínez realized that dipping below the ground state smelled a bit like making energy negative. The concept was catnip to a fan of Star Trek technologies, and he dove into Hotta’s work.

He soon realized that energy teleportation could help solve a problem faced by some of his colleagues in quantum information, including Raymond Laflamme, a physicist at Waterloo, and Nayeli Rodríguez-Briones, Laflamme’s student at the time. The pair had a more down-to-earth goal: to take qubits, the building blocks of quantum computers, and make them as cold as possible. Cold qubits are reliable qubits, but the group had run into a theoretical limit beyond which it seemed impossible to pull out any more heat — much as Bob confronted a vacuum from which energy extraction seemed impossible.

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Raymond Laflamme’s group at the University of Waterloo validated the quantum energy teleportation protocol last year.
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In his first pitch to Laflamme’s group, Martín-Martínez faced a lot of skeptical questions. But as he addressed their doubts, they became more receptive. They started studying quantum energy teleportation, and in 2017 they proposed a method for spiriting energy away from qubits to leave them colder than any other known procedure could make them. Even so, “it was all theory,” Martín-Martínez said. “There was no experiment.”

Martín-Martínez and Rodríguez-Briones, together with Laflamme and an experimentalist, Hemant Katiyar, set out to change that.

They turned to a technology known as nuclear magnetic resonance, which uses mighty magnetic fields and radio pulses to manipulate the quantum states of atoms in a large molecule. The group spent a few years planning the experiment, and then over a couple of months in the midst of the pandemic Katiyar arranged to teleport energy between two carbon atoms playing the roles of Alice and Bob.

First, a finely tuned series of radio pulses put the carbon atoms into a particular minimum-energy ground state featuring entanglement between the two atoms. The zero-point energy for the system was defined by the initial combined energy of Alice, Bob and the entanglement between them.

Next, they fired a single radio pulse at Alice and a third atom, simultaneously making a measurement at Alice’s position and transferring the information to an atomic “text message.”

Finally, another pulse aimed at both Bob and the intermediary atom simultaneously transmitted the message to Bob and made a measurement there, completing the energy chicanery.

They repeated the process many times, making many measurements at each step in a way that allowed them to reconstruct the quantum properties of the three atoms throughout the procedure. In the end, they calculated that the energy of the Bob carbon atom had decreased on average, and thus that energy had been extracted and released into the environment. This happened despite the fact that the Bob atom always started out in its ground state. From start to finish, the protocol took no more than 37 milliseconds. But for energy to have traveled from one side of the molecule to the other, it normally would have taken more than 20 times longer — approaching a full second. The energy spent by Alice allowed Bob to unlock otherwise inaccessible energy.

“It was very neat to see that with current technology it’s possible to observe the activation of energy,” said Rodríguez-Briones, who is now at the University of California, Berkeley.

They described the first demonstration of quantum energy teleportation in a preprint that they posted in March 2022; the research has since been accepted for publication in Physical Review Letters.

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Nayeli Rodríguez-Briones thinks that these systems can be used to study heat, energy and entanglement in quantum systems.
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The second demonstration would follow 10 months later.

A few days before Christmas, Kazuki Ikeda, a quantum computation researcher at Stony Brook University, was watching a YouTube video that mentioned wireless energy transfer. He wondered if something similar could be done quantum mechanically. He then remembered Hotta’s work — Hotta had been one of his professors when he was an undergraduate at Tohoku University — and realized he could run a quantum energy teleportation protocol on IBM’s quantum computing platform.

Over the next few days, he wrote and remotely executed just such a program. The experiments verified that the Bob qubit dropped below its ground-state energy. By January 7, he had posted his results in a preprint.

Nearly 15 years after Hotta first described energy teleportation, two simple demonstrations less than a year apart had proved it was possible.

“The experimental papers are nicely done,” Lloyd said. “I was kind of surprised that nobody did it sooner.”

Sci-Fi Dreams
And yet, Hotta is not yet completely satisfied.

He praises the experiments as an important first step. But he views them as quantum simulations, in the sense that the entangled behavior is programmed into the ground state — either through radio pulses or through quantum operations in IBM’s devices. His ambition is to harvest zero-point energy from a system whose ground state naturally features entanglement in the same way that the fundamental quantum fields that permeate the universe do.

To that end, he and Yusa are forging ahead with their original experiment. In the coming years, they hope to demonstrate quantum energy teleportation in a silicon surface featuring edge currents with an intrinsically entangled ground state — a system with behavior closer to that of the electromagnetic field.

In the meantime, each physicist has their own vision of what energy teleportation might be good for. Rodríguez-Briones suspects that in addition to helping stabilize quantum computers, it will continue to play an important role in the study of heat, energy and entanglement in quantum systems. In late January, Ikeda posted another paper that detailed how to build energy teleportation into the nascent quantum internet.

Martín-Martínez continues to chase his sci-fi dreams. He has teamed up with Erik Schnetter, an expert in general relativity simulations at the Perimeter Institute, to calculate exactly how space-time would react to particular arrangements of negative energy.

Some researchers find his quest intriguing. “That’s a laudable goal,” Lloyd said with a chuckle. “In some sense it would be scientifically irresponsible not to follow up on this. Negative energy density has very important consequences.”

Others caution that the road from negative energies to exotic shapes of space-time is winding and uncertain. “Our intuition for quantum correlations is still being developed,” Unruh said. “One constantly gets surprised by what is actually the case once one is able to do the calculation.”

Hotta, for his part, doesn’t spend too much time thinking about sculpting space-time. For now, he feels pleased that his quantum correlation calculation from 2008 has established a bona fide physical phenomenon.

“This is real physics,” he said, “not science fiction.”

Related:
How Quantum Physicists ‘Flipped Time’ (and How They Didn’t)
Two teams have made photons act as if time were simultaneously flowing in two directions. The experiments demonstrate a way to potentially boost the performance of quantum devices.

How the Physics of Nothing Underlies Everything
The key to understanding the origin and fate of the universe may be a more complete understanding of the vacuum.

Puzzling Quantum Scenario Appears Not to Conserve Energy
By resolving a paradox about light in a box, researchers hope to clarify the concept of energy in quantum theory.
https://archive.is/JjVes

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My guess, regarding "flipping time" (photons are particles of light and electromagnetic radiation) and having it flowing in 2 opposite directions at once, is like what we know from vibrating Words of Power. If we vibrate them 'forwards', then the energies raised can be used for whatever they're related to; if they are vibrated in reverse (i.e. the Reverse-torah Rituals (and photons being their own anti-particles)), then it has opposite effect. What my guess is is that either scientists share this information, regarding light, genuinely but are mistaken, or the scientists sign non-disclosure agreements or there are trusted (((scientists))) who work in just the right areas while others have too-little knowledge and not a full, broad understanding of things; and also that editors change wording and information so that we have to focus on "the light" i.e. "god" instead of the actual truth. We know the Soul is made-up of light, and is a part of the electromagnetic spectrum, and light has frequencies (colours) which work with other Magick things.


Black holes may be the source of mysterious dark energy
When astronomers discovered that the universe is expanding at an accelerating rate, they theorized that some force must be pushing things farther apart and overcoming gravity, which should be slowing things down. That force was suggested to be dark energy, but no one has ever figured out from where it comes.

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©Mark Garlick/Science Photo Library/Getty Images

But a team of 17 international researchers led by the University of Hawaii has discovered the first evidence for the origin point of dark energy: Black holes.

Black holes acquire mass in two ways: accretion of gas and mergers with other black holes. But in studying nine billion years of black hole evolution in dormant giant elliptical galaxies, the researchers discovered that the older black holes are much larger than they should be based on those two methods of growth. That means there must be another way these black holes are acquiring mass. Researchers suggest the answer is dark energy in the form of vacuum energy, "a kind of energy included in spacetime itself ... [that] pushes the universe further apart, accelerating the expansion," according to a statement.

"If the theory holds, then this is going to revolutionize the whole of cosmology, because at last we've got a solution for the origin of dark energy that's been perplexing cosmologists and theoretical physicists for more than 20 years," Dr. Chris Pearson of STFC RAL Space, a co-author of a study on the discovery, said in a statement.

The idea that black holes are a source of dark energy isn't new. In fact, it's part of Einstein's theory of general relativity. But this is the first time astronomers have obtained observational evidence to support the theory.

"We're really saying two things at once: That there's evidence the typical black hole solutions don't work for you on a long, long timescale, and we have the first proposed astrophysical source for dark energy," said study author Duncan Farrah, University of Hawaii astronomer, in the statement.

A paper on the team's research was published in The Astrophysical Journal Letters on Wednesday (Feb 15).
https://archive.is/wip/pHmK6


Black holes could be the source of 'dark energy' that makes up our universe
https://archive.is/uUFOz

How Supermassive Black Holes Could Finally Explain Dark Energy's Mysterious Origins
https://archive.is/wZZPX

If I am not mistaken, this "dark energy" must be the Aether. What I don't understand with this is that everything comes from the Aether; the Aether comes from either nothing (in that it doesn't come from anything) or it... comes from itself... or something; it's just there (like "god" being "self-existing") - if the Aether is the source from which everything (else) comes... then how could black holes be creating the Aether (if dark energy is Aether)? Perhaps it actually is, and along with thought (Energies - thoughts become things, etc.), then the Aether (the infinite and eternal Energetic Universe) is expanding the finite and presumably-eternal Physical Universe. Then again - maybe being confused about this doesn't matter very much. It's not exactly as if we will be told the actual truth by TPTB here on Earth.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Thank you Mancy. Very interesting.
I know! I was thinking "Is this breaking news? Does this say what Joy of Satan has been saying for years?".
 
The problem is people thinking about Space as a vacuum, and how you can't take anything from it if there is nothing there.

But there is no vacuum. There are endless clouds of energy in overlapping fields. The ether, the elements, and other fields are contained everywhere. "Dark matter" which is basically just elemental energy fields. A description to talk about these enormous sources of energy, when the bullshit 3 dimensional simplified view does not see anything there.


I remember years ago hearing about some kind of "akasha drive" or something like that. Made by somebody in Japan or China. Created as a way for satellites or space ships to be propelled through space by pushing directly against the akasha field. Or maybe it is pulling itself through the akasha, with energy being taken into itself then sent out the back. This article you shared is probably the same guy who talked about it then.
 
FancyMancy said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Thank you Mancy. Very interesting.
I know! I was thinking "Is this breaking news? Does this say what Joy of Satan has been saying for years?".

Yes. And in 1931, Nikola Tesla made a device that powered a car from the Aether.

Very interesting! Thanks for posting this.
 
Soaring Eagle 666 [JG said:
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FancyMancy said:
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Thank you Mancy. Very interesting.
I know! I was thinking "Is this breaking news? Does this say what Joy of Satan has been saying for years?".

Yes. And in 1931, Nikola Tesla made a device that powered a car from the Aether.

Very interesting! Thanks for posting this.

Actually that was two years earlier. He made a wooden box with wires and metal electrical transmission devices including vacuum tubes about 12 of them. And was interviewed by a newspaper and drove around NYC biways and early highways at nearly 96MPH faster, more effectively and more efficiently than either gas, petrol, diesel, or kerosene based cars.

Actually electrical were the first vehicles to be made. We didn't even have fossil fuels till a few years after the first electrical buggies or Horseless Carriages as the people called them. As they didn't require a Horse.

Actually it wasn't till quite a few years into the development of vehicles that had breaking systems. And even then the early breaks were terrible. Drum breaks which became a major part are terrible at their job. I'm sure the Gods can build these oldschool technologies with highly advanced technologies and learn from it. But Disc >>>> Drum for breaking systems.

Shame we don't have a strong Nation with free energies like this ZedPM. We could have had electromagnetic breaks the electromagnetic properties are forced into the engine or kept in a field inside the break housing.

Would put all breaking systems to bed at how pathetic they are. Especially for Big Rigs/Lorries so they can break even faster and more effectively.

Sheer fact is Tesla was lightyears ahead of people. Like the Meme joke from Nazi Germany: "In the 12 years the Reich existed. They advanced a thousand years."

Funny but Germany has been dealing with lots of occult technologies for a long time. For example there is the story of General Kammaler who was part of the Vimana division of the Government. The Germans possessed a pre-Vrill-Odin or flying saucer engine tethered it produced anti-gravity but not electricity or if it produced at very low levels simply to power it's sub-systems.

They had it tethered towards the power grid of the city. And would activate it and float and move it around. Sorta like the first Dornier Helicopters they were tethered and would bounce around and float for a moments till they advanced them.

Also Tesla had his pocket-watch Tunguska device. A HAARP device in the palm of your hand which freaked out Tesla and created aurora borealises around the World in weird location and whatnot. He at first built it left it on for like a week. Then he shut it off and it stopped. Then he left it on for like a month straight and once Tunguska happened he turned it off and destroyed it.

Tesla was into free helpful energy but that doesn't mean he didn't delve into weapons. For example he was laughed off by people and the enemy for trying to make weapons. He didn't want to but he did understand the technology allows it.

As a matter of fact with people now a days maybe having a free-energy weapon would be a good idea. Imagine there is a terrorist group and you can pop them out not bad?

Anyways his other contribution is the giant Tesla tower. Whereby you build a few per area and it transmits a nearly continental range of power and you have free-energy. Sorta like Tesla Towers think like in Wolfenstein. Funny the Allies fight the Germans who are using free energy and do not pay for electricity while the Allies and it's citizens have to pay that dollar for the electricity.

Anyways Tesla should have been the master of energy and all these cockknockers who want to keep Humanity with paid and dirty electricity should be shot. Electricity at the very least should be nationalized.

Imagine people with housing and business cutting off tens, hundreds, if not thousands of dollars of electricity per month.

Plus the grid is a lie. They are trying to harden the grid. Tesla technology already hardens it.

The best part is the electricity can be placed in the astral and transmitted through the akasha so it's 100% safe it's in another dimension.

Henry, Tesla's friend was also big on Tartarian technology. For example taking advantage of the Ionosphere and getting free-electricity from it.

Think of it like RAIED(RAID for computers). Redundant Array of Independent Electrical Devices.

You build multiple layers of electrical energizing. Same for Plasma batteries which can not just be unlimited energy but can self charge and or be charged up and they hold their charge till entropy practically forever.

Plasma capacitors, super-capacitors, and ultra-capacitors.

It's kinda like in Halo the Covenant weapons are all batteries if you shoot them long enough or charge up enough shots from the plasma pistol they drain the battery. The way to build them is you posses multi-capacitors; you build a central powerplant to charge up the weapon. You have the main battery and then you have a filler tank sorta like a water pressure machine to hose down and clean stuff. Like when cleaning pavement or houses with pressure water system.

You have the main discharge battery. A backup battery to charge up the main battery, capacitors of normal, super, and ultra. And you charge up so you can keep discharging the plasma weapon till it overheats. I'm surprised the Covenant never put plasma coolers to cool down the weapon during discharge to reduce and or maintain heat levels at a low level. Maybe if it heats up it takes 3-4 times longer to heat up. Especially considering the Covenant fire short controlled shots you'd in essence as long as you use it wisely never overheat and never run out of plasma shots.

No civilization as advance as them would even bother with batteries like us Humans with our pathetic Middle Ages, early Renascence level of battery technologies.

We literally run around with Fourteen hundreds and Fifteen hundreds level of these batteries.

Anyways I'm bullish on Free/Freer energy. Sorta like Korpi's post on Plasmoid Universal Theory and the Dr. Bendall Engine hybrid technology. A fossil fuel starter with a plasma turbine to power planes with 90% less weight i.e. a shaftless plasma turbine system.

Scientific Breakthrough in Plasma technologies
 
Hi,

I cam cross this4 part article a few yers ago - the theory is that the pyramids are a resonance chamber to split water, to produce hydrogen...

https://www.ancient-origins.net/ancient-places-africa-opinion/great-pyramid-giza-monument-creation-part-4-fire-element-00570

The author likens the pyramid tech to tesla's Wardenclyffe Tower

I wondered if you have read a good explanation of the Wardenclyffe Tower ?

thanks for reading
 

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