Shadowcat
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This is a repost as I noticed something in another post of mine that was not properly explained. So I am writing this OP, and also clarifying this other post of mine that is quoted and how it should have been written instead. Thanks, mercury retro :x :roll: FFS.
I feel I might have had some people misunderstand the way I have conveyed things regarding this in the past and some have gone off the complete deep end with this. To reference this and any other posts from me or Abyssos on this matter. https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=412630#p412630
I have spoken bout how and why looks in relationships matter to a certain extent, especially because how I have seen looks has been made taboo or a sensitive subject but one of certain importance nonetheless, I have however never meant to give the impression that this very aspect is something is all that should be or all that should matter or all that DOES matter. It seems certain people have interpreted this as such, or even had this view on their own originally, and thought things I had said in the past only verified this. I must clarify that it doesn't, LOOKS ARE ONLY PART OF THE EQUATION AND NOT THE ONLY DETERMINING FACTOR WHEN IT COMES TO ATTRACTING SOMETHING REAL AND GOOD FOR YOU.
Looks aren't all that matters, despite mattering to an extent...or else be brother and sister. HOWEVER, it goes off the extreme deep end to say all women care about nothing but looks, just like it's unrealistic to say all women care about nothing but personality. I have never abided by or supported either extremes, and neither should you. This is delusional and unrealistic If you are reasonable enough in looks and in who you are and your personal expressions there should be no problems with getting a quality partner. FUCK what redpill or PUA shit tells you. You don't have to be a "gigachad" or "manipulate" women to want you.
the things I have said about looks helping the sexual and romantic aspect of relationships is true. But it is not ALL that exists unless you ONLY WANT SEX.
I have cited in my own previous posts the immaturity of many today and today's degenerate dating culture, and wholeheartedly disagree with bypassing a shitty personality for the sake of looks and vice versa but never believed the mentally ill that want violent criminals or the ones that only want looks to be literally everyone or the majority. In relation to this, This is also something I must clarify that I don't believe I clarified properly in another post, and as result even left out important points which was actually very stupid of me, and I apologize to all it may have misled:
The majority of the dating culture is degenerate, yes, and the majority of the people have hangups and are damaged A lot do care only about looks, but not everyone, and these people usually only want sex. These people should be avoided anyway if you want monogamy. Only mentally ill women would gravitate toward aggressive and violent men, and these are few. I should have said here in the above quote instead, "Cavewomen only care about looks and there are a lot of these, but most people are also damaged in other ways and have hangups that prevent them from forming relationships that have also nothing to do with this, because the majority of dating today IS flawed, but that doesn't mean there is no hope. The truth is all of us are damaged in our own way and have hopes of repair, which touches back to another point in another post about why we are all here, to become better. I hope this explains the quote better, because this was what I meant by this:
The red pill community that anyone here (yes Abyssos I'm talking to you especially) follows or PUA etc, needs to disconnect from these communities immediately because they will only tell you distorted unrealistic things that will lead to pain disappointment, and failure. It is just as unrealistic to say "all women want assholes and killers", as it is to say "all women/men (insert generalization here).
Yes, there are women AND men out there who only care about looks and are shallow, and will put up with a crappy person for their looks and ignore their bad personality. (these will hardly be and don't have to be thugs though) This is a sign of immaturity or even low self-esteem but it does not count for the majority of the population, although people can also be damaged and unfit for relationships for other reasons I have also mentioned before in other posts, but this still does not mean all people are "messed up" "want to go out with criminals and killers" or are "completely ruined". There is always a chance to attract a quality partner, especially as SS, also depending on how much you are willing to compromise on ( but don't go overboard).
Some of the recent posts made are essentially telling men in relation to bad quality women or women only wanting "orcs", "that's all there is, so this is what you have to do to attract it to have success." This is not only inviting disaster and disappointment but is also totally dishonest and delusional, and from an unrealistic bitter point of view. What healthy person wants to attract someone shallow and damaged anyway? Most people are damaged,yes, and a lot of damaged people go on to heal to become very happy in relationships.
There are good women out there, and you can attract them by having nothing to do with anything the red pill or PUA communities tell you. Disconnect from them, as they will drag you down a black hole.
I feel I might have had some people misunderstand the way I have conveyed things regarding this in the past and some have gone off the complete deep end with this. To reference this and any other posts from me or Abyssos on this matter. https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=412630#p412630
I have spoken bout how and why looks in relationships matter to a certain extent, especially because how I have seen looks has been made taboo or a sensitive subject but one of certain importance nonetheless, I have however never meant to give the impression that this very aspect is something is all that should be or all that should matter or all that DOES matter. It seems certain people have interpreted this as such, or even had this view on their own originally, and thought things I had said in the past only verified this. I must clarify that it doesn't, LOOKS ARE ONLY PART OF THE EQUATION AND NOT THE ONLY DETERMINING FACTOR WHEN IT COMES TO ATTRACTING SOMETHING REAL AND GOOD FOR YOU.
Looks aren't all that matters, despite mattering to an extent...or else be brother and sister. HOWEVER, it goes off the extreme deep end to say all women care about nothing but looks, just like it's unrealistic to say all women care about nothing but personality. I have never abided by or supported either extremes, and neither should you. This is delusional and unrealistic If you are reasonable enough in looks and in who you are and your personal expressions there should be no problems with getting a quality partner. FUCK what redpill or PUA shit tells you. You don't have to be a "gigachad" or "manipulate" women to want you.
the things I have said about looks helping the sexual and romantic aspect of relationships is true. But it is not ALL that exists unless you ONLY WANT SEX.
I have cited in my own previous posts the immaturity of many today and today's degenerate dating culture, and wholeheartedly disagree with bypassing a shitty personality for the sake of looks and vice versa but never believed the mentally ill that want violent criminals or the ones that only want looks to be literally everyone or the majority. In relation to this, This is also something I must clarify that I don't believe I clarified properly in another post, and as result even left out important points which was actually very stupid of me, and I apologize to all it may have misled:
The majority of the dating culture is degenerate, yes, and the majority of the people have hangups and are damaged A lot do care only about looks, but not everyone, and these people usually only want sex. These people should be avoided anyway if you want monogamy. Only mentally ill women would gravitate toward aggressive and violent men, and these are few. I should have said here in the above quote instead, "Cavewomen only care about looks and there are a lot of these, but most people are also damaged in other ways and have hangups that prevent them from forming relationships that have also nothing to do with this, because the majority of dating today IS flawed, but that doesn't mean there is no hope. The truth is all of us are damaged in our own way and have hopes of repair, which touches back to another point in another post about why we are all here, to become better. I hope this explains the quote better, because this was what I meant by this:
This and the "cavewoman" should have been differentiated..I apologize for any confusion from my miscommunication.(as I have mentioned in different posts about people's bad behaviors in relationships, and poor decisions due to low understanding and immaturity, and i interpreted abyssos also lamenting about the same, although I do not agree with his own black-and-white reasoning behind it, which is thinking all women only care about "hot criminals and dead beats", hence this OP...and I hope it helps).
The red pill community that anyone here (yes Abyssos I'm talking to you especially) follows or PUA etc, needs to disconnect from these communities immediately because they will only tell you distorted unrealistic things that will lead to pain disappointment, and failure. It is just as unrealistic to say "all women want assholes and killers", as it is to say "all women/men (insert generalization here).
Yes, there are women AND men out there who only care about looks and are shallow, and will put up with a crappy person for their looks and ignore their bad personality. (these will hardly be and don't have to be thugs though) This is a sign of immaturity or even low self-esteem but it does not count for the majority of the population, although people can also be damaged and unfit for relationships for other reasons I have also mentioned before in other posts, but this still does not mean all people are "messed up" "want to go out with criminals and killers" or are "completely ruined". There is always a chance to attract a quality partner, especially as SS, also depending on how much you are willing to compromise on ( but don't go overboard).
Some of the recent posts made are essentially telling men in relation to bad quality women or women only wanting "orcs", "that's all there is, so this is what you have to do to attract it to have success." This is not only inviting disaster and disappointment but is also totally dishonest and delusional, and from an unrealistic bitter point of view. What healthy person wants to attract someone shallow and damaged anyway? Most people are damaged,yes, and a lot of damaged people go on to heal to become very happy in relationships.
There are good women out there, and you can attract them by having nothing to do with anything the red pill or PUA communities tell you. Disconnect from them, as they will drag you down a black hole.
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