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The distribution(sharing) of christardism and the abandonment of thinking

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0QA-vEIo7A
I came across(bumped) this video,when it appeared as an advertisement on jewtube.
Below the video I found the text of the whole video in English,so I did not need to translate it separately,but I also post the original in Hungarian.

I would not say much more,let take a look at all everybody this and draw conclusions.

The content of the video is therefore:
What is the meaning of life? Many people have already asked this question. Horace saw the meaning of life in living the moment, Plato in the acquisition of the highest level of knowledge, Aristotle in the pursuit of good, and Kant in action guided by a sense of duty.

The mind is truly one of the most valuable abilities of humanity. We can thank science, for example, for the Internet, modern medicine or the creation of welfare societies. Therefore, it may seem that secular logic provides the most satisfactory answer to all questions. Can we solve life's big questions only this way? Questions such as, what is the meaning of life?

Different trends in the increasingly popular materialistic world view have different opinions on this. Certain thinkers believe that our existence on Earth is meaningless and that it does not matter what we do with it. According to other views, the explanation of our lives can be found only in our rational nature.

Søren Kierkegaard takes a very different approach. According to him, only faith, even more powerful than reason, can explain the purpose of our existence. The defining theologian of the 19th century divided existence into stages, through which the path leads to the realization of the ultimate goal of life.

The first is the aesthetic stage. The aesthetic man is a hedonist. He is always looking for pleasures and nothing lofty floats before his eyes. He concentrates only on momentary, sensual pleasures. However, they depend on external circumstances and are therefore temporary. Because of this, the hedonist is unable to achieve lasting happiness.

Whoever realizes this, his conscience awakens, and he turns towards long-term goals that go beyond his individual desires. This leads to the second, ethical stage. Here he consciously distinguishes between positive and negative actions. He establishes internal laws along the lines of reason to use them to act for the greater good. However, in the search for truth, sooner or later one reaches the limit of reason. - believes Kierkegaard.

Then comes the religious stage. But for someone to get there, a serious spiritual moment is needed. The great leap that takes us to infinity. It's a leap of faith. It is a person's inner decision to transcend the limits of reason to reach God.

The philosopher cites Abraham's story as an example. In the Bible, God puts the prophet to the test. He asks him to sacrifice his son Isaac. In this situation, human logic would dictate that Abraham refuse the command, since killing is wrong. But he instead becomes a knight of faith and, trusting in the Creator, raises a knife to Isaac before God intervenes. In other words, faith in the word of the intelligent God guides his actions even if it seems contrary to human reason.

Of course, the thinker is not arguing in favor of infanticide. Rather, he argues that our existence has an ultimate reason and purpose, but it is not in this world, but in God. This should be guiding our decisions, rising above rationality. And this is only possible through the acceptance of faith. In the words of Kierkegaard: "Faith begins precisely where thinking ceases."

But what can we learn from a theologian born more than two hundred years ago? That we cannot understand our existence solely by thinking and that accepting that is actually a matter of faith.


In original,Hungarian language:
Mi az élet értelme? Sokan feltették már ezt a kérdést. Horatius a pillanat megélésében, Platón a legmagasabb szintű tudás megszerzésében, Arisztotelész a jóra való törekvésben, Kant pedig a kötelességtudat által vezérelt cselekvésben látta az élet értelmét.

Az értelem valóban az egyik legértékesebb képessége az embernek. A tudománynak köszönhetjük például az internetet, a modern orvoslást vagy a jóléti társadalmak létrejöttét. Ezért úgy tűnhet, hogy minden kérdésre a világi logika adja a legkielégítőbb választ. Vajon az élet nagy kérdéseit is csak ilyen módon fejthetjük meg? Például azt, hogy mi értelme az életnek?

Az egyre népszerűbb materialista világnézet különböző irányzatai erről eltérően vélekednek. Bizonyos alfajai úgy vélik, hogy földi létünk értelmetlen és nem számít, mit kezdünk vele. Más nézetek szerint életünk magyarázatát egyedül a racionális természetünkben találhatjuk meg.

Søren Kierkegaard egészen más megközelítést alkalmaz. Szerinte létezésünk céljára csak az észnél is hatalmasabb hit adhat magyarázatot. A XIX. század meghatározó teológusa a létezést stádiumokra osztotta, melyeken keresztül vezet az út az élet végső céljának felismeréséig.

Az első az esztétikai stádium. Az esztétikai ember hedonista. Mindig az élvezeteket keresi és semmi magasztos nem lebeg a szeme előtt. Egyedül a pillanatnyi, érzéki örömökre koncentrál. Azonban ezek a külső körülményektől függenek és ezért ideiglenesek. Emiatt a hedonista képtelen elérni a tartós boldogságot.

Aki ezt belátja, annak a lelkiismerete felébred és hosszú távú, egyéni vágyain túlmutató célok felé fordul. Ezzel továbblép a második, az etikai stádiumba. Itt már tudatosan megkülönbözteti a pozitív és negatív cselekedeteket. Észérvek mentén belső törvényeket állít fel, hogy azok segítségével a nagyobb jóért tegyen. Az igazság keresése során azonban az ember előbb-utóbb elérkezik az értelem határához. - véli Kierkegaard.

Ekkor következik a vallási stádium. Ám ahhoz, hogy valaki eljusson oda, egy súlyos lelki mozzanatra van szükség. A nagy ugrás, mellyel a végtelenbe jutunk át. Ez a hit ugrása. Egy személy belső döntése, amely képes meghaladni az ész korlátait, hogy elérje Istent.

A filozófus Ábrahám történetét hozza fel példának. A Bibliában Isten próbatétel elé állítja a prófétát. Arra kéri, hogy áldozza fel fiát, Izsákot. Ebben a helyzetben az emberi logika azt diktálná, hogy Ábrahám tagadja meg a parancsot, hiszen a gyilkosság helytelen. De ő ehelyett a hit lovagjává válik és a Teremtőben bízva kést emel Izsákra, mielőtt Isten közbelépne. Vagyis az értelmes Isten szavába vetett hit vezeti tettét még akkor is, ha az az emberi ésszel ellentétesnek látszik.

Természetesen a gondolkodó nem a gyermekgyilkosság mellett érvel. Sokkal inkább amellett, hogy a létezésünknek van végső oka és célja, ám az nem ebben a világban van, hanem Istenben található. Ennek kell meghatározónak lenni döntéseinkben, felülemelkedve a racionalitáson. Ez pedig csak a hit elfogadása által lehetséges. Kierkegaard szavaival: "A hit pontosan ott kezdődik, ahol a gondolkodás megszűnik."

De mit tanulhatunk egy több mint kétszáz éve született teológustól? Azt, hogy a létezésünket kizárólag gondolkozással nem tudjuk felfogni és hogy a puszta ráció elfogadása is valójában hit kérdése.


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However, during the video there were meaningful comments,I translate some of them(So these are youtube comments,do not misunderstand anyone,that these are quotes from this Jos forum!).

1.
lebán marcell,2 weeks ago:
The meaning of life is to give it meaning. The answer is as simple as that. If you don't give your life meaning, does that mean there is no meaning to your life? Finding meaning in religion is exactly the same as finding meaning in anything else, like traveling, experiencing, or developing your country. Based on this line of thinking that we see in the video, should we throw away all our thinking and blindly follow a god? Then we completely lose the free will as such that we supposedly got from him. For we do not decide of our own will, we only follow what we are supposed to follow. Because if we don't, we end up in a place that we humans have invented so that we don't feel bad if something bad happens to us, or prevent ourselves from doing certain bad things (which are harmful to the common good anyway). The Bible says that God is both omnipotent and omniscient, so he knows what will happen. That is why the test was pointless, because he knew what the outcome would be. This proves that god is either not omniscient or simply does not exist, because there is no meaning to what he does.

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Bálint Szarka,1 month ago (edited):
I do not agree with Kierkegaard's ideas. The philosophers before him said much better.
And a answer to this: :arrow:
Übermensch,1 month ago:
Actually, most of the theories were just twisted here, obviously to the liking of the makers. If you actually look at it, it wasn't even that "pure" or faith fanatical. He was much closer to a Schopenhauer or Nietzsche than to Christian fundamentalism.

3.
Tomanovic Gergely,1 month ago:
Well, this video doesn't answer the question in the title either :D

However, it's disturbing that you present faith as if it were something higher than knowledge, when I don't think it is, faith is more like trying to fill the void caused by lack of knowledge, with varying degrees of success.

By the way, science may not (yet) be able to answer certain questions, but that does not mean that the answer of religions automatically becomes true. For example, in the past, until there was a scientific explanation for lightning, religions thought that God was angry and needed to be appeased - but now we know the measurable and describable physical phenomena behind it. So science may not (yet) have an answer to the purpose and meaning of our existence, but it may one day, and it will almost certainly have a better answer than any religion. In the meantime, I'll stick with @Kurzgesagt's philosophy of "optimistic credulism": we may never know what our purpose in life is, the point is that we find it for ourselves.

4.
Sz Dávid Pollen,1 month ago:
I don't believe in religions, Christianity can only be believed in, it doesn't answer the why
And a answer to this: :arrow:
D mint Dániel,1 month ago:
It provides no answers, only a purely emotional reassurance for people incapable of rational thought. There was a sentence in the video that "Faith begins where thinking stops". Now that's all there is to it. Although it might be more accurate to say that thinking begins where faith ceases. Knowing things is cooler than just believing them.

Thanks for everybody,who has read this.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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