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Being and seeming

Maya

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The contrast between what appears to be and what really is. The contrast between the truth of things and the illusion and delusions that can be caused to us.
What being is, is the truth of things, the deeper value of things. What appears to be, is the wrapping paper of something. Nothing deep, only the image of it. The wrapping paper can reflect the truth of being, but most times it doesn't.

Today the "being-seeming" phenomenon is more intense than in any other era, since our era, the era of the image, as we say, allows such a thing. The obsession with the apparent, however, is an obstacle in our attempt to approach and recognize the truth. As if what is seen is real. We put emphasis on "seeming" and not on "being".

This happens because the virtual is easier and more obvious. Truth requires more thought, deep searching, reflection and critical ability to be mastered. Moreover, this happens because the appearance is most often more beautiful than what it really is, and we are dazzled. Too often we even refuse to face the harsh reality and settle for lies that seem more painless and utopian. But the boundary that separates these two concepts is very thin and indiscernible.

Doing circles around ourselves and  trying to invent things to alter what situations seem to be. To confuse being with appearance. An example  from Greek mythology is the myth of Narcissus, a young boy who admired himself too much and placed too much importance to seeming (appearance) which led him to his drowning. This shows us that we should place weight on the inner world and not on the image made.

The cave allegory of Plato shows this contrast between being and seeming.

"In a cave, underground, there are some people chained in such a way that they can only see the wall in front of them. They can't look back, right, or left. Behind them, however, a fire is burning. So whatever manifests behind their backs is represented as a shadow on the opposite wall. Because the only things these people have seen in their entire lives are the shadows of things, they have the impression that the shadows they see on the wall are the things themselves. But if one of the chained men in the cave succeeds in freeing himself, getting out of the cave and going up to the earth and, under the light of the sun now, seeing things, he will understand the delusion in which he lived while he was in the cave. He will then realize that his companions, who are still chained in the cave, are still living immersed in illusions."

Plato's interpretation of the myth is that the free bondman is the person who sees the beings themselves, the ideas, and not their idols, while his chained companions are the common people who, having become addicted to the illusory representations of sensible things, they live, without knowing it, in a lie.

There is always, of course, for Plato, the possibility of chained people escaping from their shackles. To break free from their chains, they must trust their mind. The myth is universally considered one of the most important messages to humanity in order to understand that we live in the illusion of this world. The myth of the cave has a multidimensional interpretation that reaches up to the present day. Humans, like the binders of the myth, from ancient times to the present day, live imprisoned in our bodies, dominated by our self-centeredness, desire for power, indifference to our fellow men, attachment only to our bodily needs and material goods.
Some people who are bound, manage to get rid of the influence of these senses, and go about their lives based on right reason, clear thinking, education and realizing, now, what is meaningful in life.

Plato, with the myth of the cave, illustrates how manipulative the human mind is, how easily it is "tied", through the image and the senses in general. It is frightening that he realized that man based on image and "appearance" would misinterpret reality, a truth that has been valid since ancient times until today. But man is not only senses, nor does the world revolve around "appearance". Man is ideas that make him a thinking citizen, able to resist the "Sirens" of pleasure - aesthetic, economic or any other. Ideas that produce critical thinking, which ultimately helps a person not to be manipulated by idols, even if they seem to hide behind a beautiful "wrap".

The unity of the perishable and the imperishable, the eternal and the transitory, emerges in an endless becoming where the world of sense is the supreme manifestation of Being.The truth has to be showed. The truth has to be reflected on the appearance.
 
Thank you for sharing this.
The Thruth is a very interesting and deep topic to think about. Thankfully meditating helps to reach it.
 
This is an excellent post on the illustration of the deceptive mind.

The way we perceive is not always the most reliable thing. Our mind tends to process information and breaks this down to simpler terms or fractions for an unfocused and scattered mind to understand. This is why we recognizes silhouettes, faces and shapes more easily and think in pictures/movie clips that is fragmented. Memories, the subconscious and conscious, can be reshaped and even reconstructed to the point of having entirely false memories - the enemy Jews are master-deceivers and knows how the mind works. The Jews are using techniques that allows the mind to succumb to a false deity and neglecting their own nature.

Focusing too much on the material and the exterior makes up for a person that is imbalanced and limited. The neglection of the inner self, the spiritual self, will lead anyone to the faith of the karmic influences, the unforgiving Saturn and the obscure Neptune.

Through meditation and Yoga, much of the error's that have been instilled in the mind and soul can be corrected. When the internal heals, the exterior will follow. This has to do with working upon the soul, as well as the mind.

When we are in tune with both the exterior (physical) and the internal (spiritual), healing will occur. Through healing, balance will occur. Through balance, perfection is being made, the Magnum Opus, Immortality, Godhead.

Satan is the bringer of Knowledge, Truth and Immortality.

HAIL SATAN!!!
 
Maya said:
dominated by our self-centeredness, desire for power

Please don't repeat the xian garbage.
Being powerful is good. Weakness is not virtue.
Pathological altruism is bad as well. We wouldn't be having mass immigration if people were more selfish and more centered on themselves and their country.
 
Master.mind said:
Maya said:
dominated by our self-centeredness, desire for power

Please don't repeat the xian garbage.
Being powerful is good. Weakness is not virtue.
Pathological altruism is bad as well. We wouldn't be having mass immigration if people were more selfish and more centered on themselves and their country.

Becoming powerful is good and essential, yes. That's what we are here for and I wasn't talking against it. But even this, if done the wrong way, can lead to a person's downfall. That's what I meant by "dominated".

What would be of a man if all he wanted was to become powerful, even so selfishly to the point of trying to be bigger than Satan himself? What if we weren't humble enough to see the Gods, other powerful beings, by our side?
Being humble (not in the xian way, but in the right way) is also important in this path.

Weakness is what we try to avoid, and we try this on a daily basis with meditation, reflection on ourselves, our actions.
Some of the physical reasons we have mass immigration are selfishness, self-centeredness and lack of unity. People either don't care about their own country and prefer to leave the place and leave it as it is (being selfish, not caring about anything else than themselves), or even if they care, they alone are not enough in order to change things, so lacking of unity hits here.

There is also a negative side of ego, being selfish and self-centered, and ancient philosophers have written about it extensively.  Everything needs balance.
To be a bit more specific, Plato has said:
"One bad thing is implanted in the souls of most people and it makes them always find excuses for themselves, without being able to avoid it."
"This bad thing becomes the cause of all our faults cause of our excessive love for ourselves. Because the self-centered person becomes blind and can't judge right what good things exist, and prefers to always put himself first."

What Plato says about the great man:
"The person who doesn't focus on himself, but to what is fair and right, regardless if these take action by himself or from someone else."
"The man has to avoid excessive self-love, but has to follow whomever is better than him  without believing that this is shaming, in other words, to be humble".
 
Darkpagan666 said:
This is an excellent post on the illustration of the deceptive mind.

The way we perceive is not always the most reliable thing. Our mind tends to process information and breaks this down to simpler terms or fractions for an unfocused and scattered mind to understand. This is why we recognizes silhouettes, faces and shapes more easily and think in pictures/movie clips that is fragmented. Memories, the subconscious and conscious, can be reshaped and even reconstructed to the point of having entirely false memories - the enemy Jews are master-deceivers and knows how the mind works. The Jews are using techniques that allows the mind to succumb to a false deity and neglecting their own nature.

Focusing too much on the material and the exterior makes up for a person that is imbalanced and limited. The neglection of the inner self, the spiritual self, will lead anyone to the faith of the karmic influences, the unforgiving Saturn and the obscure Neptune.

Through meditation and Yoga, much of the error's that have been instilled in the mind and soul can be corrected. When the internal heals, the exterior will follow. This has to do with working upon the soul, as well as the mind.

When we are in tune with both the exterior (physical) and the internal (spiritual), healing will occur. Through healing, balance will occur. Through balance, perfection is being made, the Magnum Opus, Immortality, Godhead.

Satan is the bringer of Knowledge, Truth and Immortality.

HAIL SATAN!!!

Thank you. Yes, that's true. I think you used the best words to compliment this topic.
Meditation and Yoga can help us in endless aspects, and yet many people don't appreciate fully the powers of them.
 
Hidden Warrior said:
Thank you for sharing this.
The Thruth is a very interesting and deep topic to think about. Thankfully meditating helps to reach it.

Thank you. Yes our Gods have shared with us the right tools in order to be able to become like them.
 
Maya said:
What would be of a man if all he wanted was to become powerful, even so selfishly to the point of trying to be bigger than Satan himself? What if we weren't humble enough to see the Gods, other powerful beings, by our side?
Being humble (not in the xian way, but in the right way) is also important in this path.
Is there anything - any sermon, decree, word, instruction... anything - to say thou shalt not attempt to be more-powerful than I, LORD Satan? If the Universe is infinite, then that is a possibility - an extremely (seemingly infinitely) improbable possibility, but a possibility nonetheless. What about any sermon, decree, word, instruction, etc. to say anything against any anti-pride things, or any anti-ambition things, etc.? If the Universe is infinite and eternal, then Satan might not be the most-powerful that we know. Being the Top Dog - or Top God, rather - is not a bad thing. Wanting to be it is also not a bad thing. Focussing on impossibilities is a bad thing. Anyone can do anything they want in life - if 1) they put the work in to doing it and 2) it is possible physically. One can be Commander in Chief, or a cleaner in the evenings and at the weekends. When one says "attempting to be more-powerful than our Highest, Most-Powerful God", people would tend to infer that to mean replacing Satan and usurping power and authourity, but that would not necessarily - or at all - be the case.

Take the Human Races -
  • Whites might be more-powerful Spiritually; this does not make Asians and Blacks Spiritual slaves to Whites,
  • Asians might be more-powerful Mentally; this does not make Whites and Blacks Mental slaves to Asians,
  • Blacks might be more-powerful Physically; this does not make Whites and Asians Physical slaves to Blacks.


Selfishness is not a bad thing, necessarily. If Satan knows the Universe is infinite and eternal, then He knows that He either isn't now, or might not always be, the most-powerful. Karma exists, and He and any possibly-more-powerful being/entity also knows Karma exists and are also moral and ethical and in-line with Nature; thus, any possibly-more-powerful being/entity would not interfere, and he/she/it would be on his/her/its own ascension and evolution upwards, as is Satan, etc.

Weakness is what we try to avoid, and we try this on a daily basis with meditation, reflection on ourselves, our actions.
Doing so is selfish. That is selfishness.


There is also a negative side of ego, being selfish and self-centered, and ancient philosophers have written about it extensively.  Everything needs balance.
To be a bit more specific, Plato has said:
"One bad thing is implanted in the souls of most people and it makes them always find excuses for themselves, without being able to avoid it."
"This bad thing becomes the cause of all our faults cause of our excessive love for ourselves. Because the self-centered person becomes blind and can't judge right what good things exist, and prefers to always put himself first."
Do you mean "'cause", or "the cause"? If you mean "the cause", then a comma would help; if you mean "because", then the sentence changes. Regardless - selfishness is not a bad thing in and of itself. We improve ourselves - that is selfish. People use the term "selfish" in negative ways, like they use "ignorant" negatively/take it negatively if someone calls them ignorant when it simply means not having knowledge of whatever subject, topic, context.

Also - what is this "one bad thing" which is "implanted in the Souls of most people"? Selfishness? Should we not have ambitions and pride? Shall we thank a faerie in the sky for doing things?

What Plato says about the great man:
"The person who doesn't focus on himself, but to what is fair and right, regardless if these take action by himself or from someone else."
Fragment; consider revising.

"The man has to avoid excessive self-love, but has to follow whomever is better than him  without believing that this is shaming, in other words, to be humble".
We don't need christian humbleness, humility and meekness. We need to stand strong and proud and powerful. Without defining what "excessive self-love" means, then it is up to us to infer. We need to love ourselves; otherwise, we can drink and drug ourselves to death, and possibly out of existence. Focussing on others forever is giving them Energies and depriving ourselves Energies; it is, in judeochristian and islam reality, feeding the enemy egregore (evil thoughtform) for and directly to our own disease, detriment, decay and death. No, thank you.

Heathen Heart,
Pagan Pride,
faring far,
Sword by side;

Tribal Times,
Northern Nights,
Hidden High,
Runic Rites,
I was told -

Hold the Heathen Hammer High,
Hold the Heathen Hammer High,
Hold the Heathen Hammer High,

Hold the Heathen Hammer High
with a battle cry,
for the Pagan past I live
and one day will die

Hold the Heathen Hammer High,
never turn away,
Ever true unto your Forefathers stalwart stay,
Hold the Heathen Hammer High


(Plus other songs...)
 
FancyMancy said:
Is there anything - any sermon, decree, word, instruction... anything - to say thou shalt not attempt to be more-powerful than I, LORD Satan? If the Universe is infinite, then that is a possibility - an extremely (seemingly infinitely) improbable possibility, but a possibility nonetheless. What about any sermon, decree, word, instruction, etc. to say anything against any anti-pride things, or any anti-ambition things, etc.? If the Universe is infinite and eternal, then Satan might not be the most-powerful that we know. Being the Top Dog - or Top God, rather - is not a bad thing. Wanting to be it is also not a bad thing. Focussing on impossibilities is a bad thing. Anyone can do anything they want in life - if 1) they put the work in to doing it and 2) it is possible physically. One can be Commander in Chief, or a cleaner in the evenings and at the weekends. When one says "attempting to be more-powerful than our Highest, Most-Powerful God", people would tend to infer that to mean replacing Satan and usurping power and authourity, but that would not necessarily - or at all - be the case.

I find it weird at the very least that the idea of someone pursuing the goal of becoming more powerful than Satan even ran through your mind, and that you suggest this would be a "normal" thing in the path that we are. But anyway, I simply meant that one shouldn't become so selfish to the point of despising the Gods who are by our side or stomping on their heads with the power that you get. Any good understander would get this.
Anyone can take this as a post, do a research, add or exclude whatever they dislike.

As I've seem from other comments or yours, you are not perspicacious at all, you lack of it and your way is quarrelsome. 

There are many, many, many sermons in ancient Greek language about the healthy ego. You have eyes, you can open a book and read for yourself. 

Nobody limited you. You can become as powerful as your capacity allows you. You can do whatever you like.

But just beware:
"[Concerning those who only care about themselves and see Satanism as a religion only for the self and disregard Satan]

"They are of no importance to me." -Satan"

https://joyofsatan.org/hailtosatansvictory666.angelfire.com/Concerning_Spiritual_Warfare.html



Take the Human Races

Off topic.


Doing so is selfish. That is selfishness.

If you had read any decent book in your life related to the philosophy of ancient Greece, i.e. our own legacy, the legacy they really tried to share with us, things they knew but needed to share with us in order to help the human race advance, and despite all the damage and the kike influence, some of them are available for us to read and take just a small piece of their knowledge - and that's what I'm trying to share here, what I read - then you'd know that the point here is that humbleness is very different from what you are familiar with, the xian way. Unless you are that shallow that you focus only on semantics and definitions, i.e. *Google - meaning* 

Tip: the philosophy of ancient Greeks had the PERFECT BALANCE. Selfishness, egoism, society and everything you can think of. 


Do you mean "'cause", or "the cause"? If you mean "the cause", then a comma would help; if you mean "because", then the sentence changes. Regardless - selfishness is not a bad thing in and of itself. We improve ourselves - that is selfish. People use the term "selfish" in negative ways, like they use "ignorant" negatively/take it negatively if someone calls them ignorant when it simply means not having knowledge of whatever subject, topic, context.

Also - what is this "one bad thing" which is "implanted in the Souls of most people"? Selfishness? Should we not have ambitions and pride? Shall we thank a faerie in the sky for doing things?

Let me clear something that it seems that you didn't understand: 

"One bad thing is implanted in the souls of most people and it makes them always find excuses for themselves, without being able to avoid it. This bad thing becomes the cause of all our faults BEcause of our excessive love for ourselves. Because the self-centered person becomes blind and can't judge right what good things exist, and prefers to always put himself first." -Plato 

So, if you want, you can go debate with Plato.
Some things are just as they are. What we can do is analyze them and see their meaning. Not everything is negotiable.


Fragment; consider revising.

The message in this line is still clear enough and speaks for itself. If that's an issue, you can go read the whole thing yourself as well.


We don't need christian humbleness, humility and meekness.

Again, you are saying this about Plato's words and the thing is you act in such a shallow way that you can't even read to understand but only to reply. 

Just like you insistedly say that selfishness isn't necessarily bad, you should know that humbleness isn't, either.


We need to stand strong and proud and powerful. Without defining what "excessive self-love" means, then it is up to us to infer. We need to love ourselves; otherwise, we can drink and drug ourselves to death, and possibly out of existence. Focussing on others forever is giving them Energies and depriving ourselves Energies; it is, in judeochristian and islam reality, feeding the enemy egregore (evil thoughtform) for and directly to our own disease, detriment, decay and death. No, thank you.

If an advanced Greek philosopher himself did not define in his work what is excessive self-love, as you're questioning here, there's a reason for that. He expected people to be wise enough to be able to interpret for themselves what that is. It's up to you to figure out how much self-love is too much self-love to yourself. To know at which point it could start becoming harmful to you, to your advancement. But this needs advancement and critical thinking in order to be able to perceive it.

Self-love is sure essential, but anything excessive could become your downfall.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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