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Jrvan

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This is a continuation of the argument in Tabby's thread.
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=60350

These are my observations. I see men constantly playing defense, defense, defense against the scapegoating of men as the oppressors of women. This is absolutely pointless. Getting uncomfortable about being wrongly accused by women about oppressing women, and defending your honor is just playing into the hands of the jews. I learned this a long time ago - the one thing you do NOT do when you are arguing against someone who is unreasonable, illogical, refuses to listen and hear you out, and/or only cares about winning the argument... is defend yourself. That may sound counter-intuitive, but it's true. It's absolutely ineffective to defend yourself because they don't care to hear it. They don't care. They are convinced that you are the bad guy, and the only effective way out is to go on offense and forsake defense. That's the only thing that works in those types of situations. I would know because I spent my childhood playing defense against an alcoholic mother who didn't care about logic or reasonableness. I finally learned many years later that the only thing that works is going on offense.

Why do you think the jews are so afraid of "The Accuser?" Why do they say that the accuser is the only one who can bring them to justice? It's because the accuser plays offense. The accuser accuses the jews of their crimes, and prosecutes them, putting THEM on defense instead. Because the jews will keep throwing barrage after barrage of accusations against Whites and everyone else. What they don't want to do is have to be put on defense against accusations against them. They get everyone thinking they have figured out the problem, and who is to blame... while no one ever points their fingers at the jews. And the cherry on top is that they have even made it illegal in most places to accuse the jews. THAT'S how afraid they are of being accused. So afraid that they would even force it to become outlawed.

Everyone must stop playing defense, and instead become the accuser. Men can vindicate themselves if they accuse the jews. But instead of that, the jews have women accusing men, and men accusing women. How do people expect that to work out when everyone is accusing everyone but the jews?

To clarify, I'm not talking about anyone here specifically. I'm making a point about mindsets, and also trying to drive home my point that neither men nor women are the actual problem, but rather jews who force them to be raised in marxism and other enemy indoctrination programs. The rest of the argument can be seen in Tabby's thread for context.
 
jrvan said:
This is a continuation of the argument in Tabby's thread.
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=60350
I spent my childhood playing defense against an alcoholic mother who didn't care about logic or reasonableness. I finally learned many years later that the only thing that works is going on offense.
I learned with my mother that you win by not playing. We used to fight all the time years ago but we’ve both matured and gotten better. Occasionally she’ll have an attitude and try to fight with me over something like going out too late. When she tries to initiate conflict with some stupid comment I don’t respond or even look at her. People with this kind of personality thrive on your reaction and use it as fuel. Don’t give them anything. Starve the beast

The same goes for my father. I would say we have a bad relationship but really we don’t have one at all because I cut him off completely and told him to never speak to me again 6 months ago. That’s how you deal with extreme narcissists and generally abusive people. Don’t give them anything.
 
SouthernWhiteGentile said:
jrvan said:
This is a continuation of the argument in Tabby's thread.
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=60350
I spent my childhood playing defense against an alcoholic mother who didn't care about logic or reasonableness. I finally learned many years later that the only thing that works is going on offense.
I learned with my mother that you win by not playing. We used to fight all the time years ago but we’ve both matured and gotten better. Occasionally she’ll have an attitude and try to fight with me over something like going out too late. When she tries to initiate conflict with some stupid comment I don’t respond or even look at her. People with this kind of personality thrive on your reaction and use it as fuel. Don’t give them anything. Starve the beast

The same goes for my father. I would say we have a bad relationship but really we don’t have one at all because I cut him off completely and told him to never speak to me again 6 months ago. That’s how you deal with extreme narcissists and generally abusive people. Don’t give them anything.

It would have been nice if that tactic had worked for me back then, but whenever I tried that she would just keep yelling, follow me into my room, threaten me in various ways like saying she was going to kick me out (both before and after I turned 18, and this would usually happen after playing nice and telling me she would never do such a thing). She usually made those kinds of threats when I locked my door too. I was just a kid for most of the years that this was going on, and I had barely any social experience or life experience in general. The only way I could ever get her to leave me alone was by engaging in screaming matches with her until she wore herself out and left in a rage. It usually never ended without me crying in the end from mental and emotional exhaustion.

There were a few times the door to my bedroom was taken off the hinges. I would have loved it if ignoring her had worked. I just didn't know what to do back then. If I had known what I know now about the world and everything then maybe I would have called CPS on her and gotten myself put into foster care to take my chances. I don't know if foster care would have been much better, but I don't think it could have been much worse.
 
To summarize - Jack's argument, if I have understood it correctly, is that women are primarily responsible for lowered birth rates of the White race.

I have disagreed with him and stated my own view that lowered birth rates are primarily a result of two factors:
1. financial
2. marxism and ZOG

Here is a quote from Jack on the other thread:
Jack said:
And this is why society has collapsed in the Western world. And it won't change anytime soon. Women don't care about Statistics or the greater good related to their own nation.

I feel bad for the children who will inherit a broken country in which they're questioning their own identities and are being displaced, all because of the actions of their mothers and the women who refused to give children to their nations. They deserve better than these sluts.

Jack, if I have misrepresented you then please let me know.
 
jrvan said:
To summarize - Jack's argument, if I have understood it correctly, is that women are primarily responsible for lowered birth rates of the White race.

I have disagreed with him and stated my own view that lowered birth rates are primarily a result of two factors:
1. financial
2. marxism and ZOG

Here is a quote from Jack on the other thread:
Jack said:
And this is why society has collapsed in the Western world. And it won't change anytime soon. Women don't care about Statistics or the greater good related to their own nation.

I feel bad for the children who will inherit a broken country in which they're questioning their own identities and are being displaced, all because of the actions of their mothers and the women who refused to give children to their nations. They deserve better than these sluts.

Jack, if I have misrepresented you then please let me know.
No ,I don't blame women for being like they are in his decadent society. Men aren't any better. While Alpha males should be leading society towards healthy families and values, they are busy running through women and damaging their pairbonding capacity for future relationships. But the reason men are doing this is because they are unable to fulfill their roles as leaders and providers because women are themselves financially independent so they don't need a man for that.

The primary reason for all of this is the way society is set up for men to fail. The Jews are primarily responsible for setting up a society like this and the men are primarily responsible for allowing women to be unrestrained in their lives without accountability.

What's happening is since women have been allowed by men to gain financial independence, they are choosing not to settle down with their match (similar income and looks). They are saying that since they can take care of their own, they don't need to settle and they will rather die alone than get their best.

Since women generally aren't self aware just like most men aren't, they don't understand that statistically their desires cannot be met.

Earlier it was that a woman had to marry a man out of necessity, and she was happy because she was able to pairbond with him. Currently what is happening is that since so many women have been ran through by multiple men their pairbonding ability has been broken and they aren't happy with their counterparts.

Adding Fire to injury, it is currently at best 15 years left till all Caucasian countries will have been replaced by Immigrants from outside (~600 million) through the United Nations Replacement Migration plan.

Nothing can be done politically to retake back the countries due to rigged systems (Election stolen from Donald Trump, his inability to complete the wall and many other things because of marxist judges blocking his order.)

In order for women and men to function normally in society you have to restrict their self destructive activities. For example of Women are to function in a society with financial independence and not end up like Japan they have to be conditioned through media,academia, culture to not be promiscuous (which destroys their pairbonding capacity and beings unhappiness in life.)

The more independence a woman gets, the unhappier she is.
https://www.nber.org/papers/w14969#:~:text=Relative%20declines%20in%20female%20happiness,subjective%20well-being%20for%20men.

The only reason that women are arguing against my points is because they have an ideological relationship with the identity where they cant separate themselves from Feminist ideals which they have been conditioned in through brainwashing through the culture, media,academia (Related : Search Edward Bernays.)

As women have been given more and more independence, they become more and more unhappy. This is because naturally they are supposed to be dependent upon men to lead them and take care of them and their needs (emotional in nature. ) Their unhappiness comes from their inability to keep mem in relationships, which their internal desire is based upon.

Women don't derive the same amount of happiness from material pursuits. The unhappiest demographic of human being in the United States is a woman who is more than 40 years old, childless, is a career woman.

Women derive their happiness from caring for their children and that is their purpose according to their biology. Women on this forum or around the world can fight me in their emotions all they like but the facts are clear that I am right according to their own words and actions. Because they've reported more unhappiness and suffering from since they were allegedly oppressed.

The situation is that adding all of this, it would take some 150 - 200 years according to conservative estimates for Western society to die out with Female choice of not giving children and getting married to average men ,similar to Japan.

But dissimilar to Japan along with liberated women who are refusing to have children, the Western countries are being invaded by millions of Migrants who are extremely fertile and are operating under a anti white ideology which they have been inculcated in through UN refugee camps.

Along with the other plans of Jews such as the Cyber Pandemic which is undergoing and will kill the world economy, making sure that there is no chance for a better opportune moment to have children, better options at life ,better living standards ,ability to give children better lives etc.

After the Covid lockdown hoax this plan was finalized and set in stone where there was no going back again. Alongside this the "National Strategy for Countering Domestic Terrorism " lists the whites who are questioning elections or trying to question the vaccines as Domestic terrorists. Various Government officials have threatened to start a physical war against the Right Wingers which will happen sometime very soon.

As the situation devolves into total anarchy they will stage false flag terror attacks (maybe a Bioterrorist attack or something related) and claim the unvaccinated are responsible. They will then kill the internet off to shut down all communications.
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/132585-us-president-issues-executive-order-that-gives-him-control-of-the-internet

But this war will bear no fruit because most of the military will refuse to fight their own countrymen. This will then cause them to retreat back to major cities ,while the outer cities devolve into lawlessness without food,water,electricity etc (Liberty Eclipse).

Whites will then snap out of their trance and start organizing through paramilitary groups and start to retake back their cities which will be in a state of permanent siege by UN peacekeeper troops and Migrants.

So in order for some 60 million people to fight 340 million people, they will need babies who will continue their fight as replacements. Unless the women want to be die of starvation ,they will need to come back and be dependent upon men to survive.

In the immediate situation, the issue of female independence and unrestrained choice will have to take a back seat as the situation for survival takes the front seat. The liberals and leftists are already checked out of the fight as they've taken the vaccine and will be included in the new beast system inside major cities (United Nations Smart Cities Initiative).

The United States will dissolve and possibly be reborn decades later similar to Europe. It will take decades of continuous fighting to push all the migrants out.

But the children need to be produced if the fight is to be won. The surefire way to lose is to think about the temporary emotions of the children being born in a war torn world. For the greater good of all humanity, these children need to be born and they need to continue the fight against the Jewish problem. Otherwise we will become one of the cyborg wastelands of the enemy where the women were manipulated into being independent, sterilized and the population chipped.

And in the new society, we will have to have similar sexual and gender norms as National Socialist Germany and Ancient Greece which women adhering to their roles in society as mothers and caretakers, and men as workers ,providers, and innovative leaders. We will solve the issue of Promiscuity and prevent women from undue suffering from Male behavior. Society will then be fixed.The outlets of female value inflation like Tiktok ,Instagram, Facebook must also be prevented from made again so women don't feel artificially inflated value. Even if they have Financial Independence, they cannot be allowed to be promiscuous. If they aren't promiscuous and they are financially independent the pairbond will still be strong that they will stick with their partner through thick and thin without the need to leave him.

According to current trends and my research, this will play out exactly as I say it will. There will be no female leaders. They will be extremist Male leaders who will fix society first ,and enact the final Solution. The female leaders will come after this century ends (after 2100), when all of humanity will open their astral senses up entirely.
 
Jack said:
jrvan said:
To summarize - Jack's argument, if I have understood it correctly, is that women are primarily responsible for lowered birth rates of the White race.

I have disagreed with him and stated my own view that lowered birth rates are primarily a result of two factors:
1. financial
2. marxism and ZOG

Here is a quote from Jack on the other thread:
Jack said:
And this is why society has collapsed in the Western world. And it won't change anytime soon. Women don't care about Statistics or the greater good related to their own nation.

I feel bad for the children who will inherit a broken country in which they're questioning their own identities and are being displaced, all because of the actions of their mothers and the women who refused to give children to their nations. They deserve better than these sluts.

Jack, if I have misrepresented you then please let me know.
No ,I don't blame women for being like they are in his decadent society. Men aren't any better. While Alpha males should be leading society towards healthy families and values, they are busy running through women and damaging their pairbonding capacity for future relationships. But the reason men are doing this is because they are unable to fulfill their roles as leaders and providers because women are themselves financially independent so they don't need a man for that.

The primary reason for all of this is the way society is set up for men to fail. The Jews are primarily responsible for setting up a society like this and the men are primarily responsible for allowing women to be unrestrained in their lives without accountability.

What's happening is since women have been allowed by men to gain financial independence, they are choosing not to settle down with their match (similar income and looks). They are saying that since they can take care of their own, they don't need to settle and they will rather die alone than get their best.

Since women generally aren't self aware just like most men aren't, they don't understand that statistically their desires cannot be met.

Earlier it was that a woman had to marry a man out of necessity, and she was happy because she was able to pairbond with him. Currently what is happening is that since so many women have been ran through by multiple men their pairbonding ability has been broken and they aren't happy with their counterparts.

Adding Fire to injury, it is currently at best 15 years left till all Caucasian countries will have been replaced by Immigrants from outside (~600 million) through the United Nations Replacement Migration plan.

Nothing can be done politically to retake back the countries due to rigged systems (Election stolen from Donald Trump, his inability to complete the wall and many other things because of marxist judges blocking his order.)

In order for women and men to function normally in society you have to restrict their self destructive activities. For example of Women are to function in a society with financial independence and not end up like Japan they have to be conditioned through media,academia, culture to not be promiscuous (which destroys their pairbonding capacity and beings unhappiness in life.)

The more independence a woman gets, the unhappier she is.
https://www.nber.org/papers/w14969#:~:text=Relative%20declines%20in%20female%20happiness,subjective%20well-being%20for%20men.

The only reason that women are arguing against my points is because they have an ideological relationship with the identity where they cant separate themselves from Feminist ideals which they have been conditioned in through brainwashing through the culture, media,academia (Related : Search Edward Bernays.)

As women have been given more and more independence, they become more and more unhappy. This is because naturally they are supposed to be dependent upon men to lead them and take care of them and their needs (emotional in nature. ) Their unhappiness comes from their inability to keep mem in relationships, which their internal desire is based upon.

Women don't derive the same amount of happiness from material pursuits. The unhappiest demographic of human being in the United States is a woman who is more than 40 years old, childless, is a career woman.

Women derive their happiness from caring for their children and that is their purpose according to their biology. Women on this forum or around the world can fight me in their emotions all they like but the facts are clear that I am right according to their own words and actions. Because they've reported more unhappiness and suffering from since they were allegedly oppressed.

The situation is that adding all of this, it would take some 150 - 200 years according to conservative estimates for Western society to die out with Female choice of not giving children and getting married to average men ,similar to Japan.

But dissimilar to Japan along with liberated women who are refusing to have children, the Western countries are being invaded by millions of Migrants who are extremely fertile and are operating under a anti white ideology which they have been inculcated in through UN refugee camps.

Along with the other plans of Jews such as the Cyber Pandemic which is undergoing and will kill the world economy, making sure that there is no chance for a better opportune moment to have children, better options at life ,better living standards ,ability to give children better lives etc.

After the Covid lockdown hoax this plan was finalized and set in stone where there was no going back again. Alongside this the "National Strategy for Countering Domestic Terrorism " lists the whites who are questioning elections or trying to question the vaccines as Domestic terrorists. Various Government officials have threatened to start a physical war against the Right Wingers which will happen sometime very soon.

As the situation devolves into total anarchy they will stage false flag terror attacks (maybe a Bioterrorist attack or something related) and claim the unvaccinated are responsible. They will then kill the internet off to shut down all communications.
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/132585-us-president-issues-executive-order-that-gives-him-control-of-the-internet

But this war will bear no fruit because most of the military will refuse to fight their own countrymen. This will then cause them to retreat back to major cities ,while the outer cities devolve into lawlessness without food,water,electricity etc (Liberty Eclipse).

Whites will then snap out of their trance and start organizing through paramilitary groups and start to retake back their cities which will be in a state of permanent siege by UN peacekeeper troops and Migrants.

So in order for some 60 million people to fight 340 million people, they will need babies who will continue their fight as replacements. Unless the women want to be die of starvation ,they will need to come back and be dependent upon men to survive.

In the immediate situation, the issue of female independence and unrestrained choice will have to take a back seat as the situation for survival takes the front seat. The liberals and leftists are already checked out of the fight as they've taken the vaccine and will be included in the new beast system inside major cities (United Nations Smart Cities Initiative).

The United States will dissolve and possibly be reborn decades later similar to Europe. It will take decades of continuous fighting to push all the migrants out.

But the children need to be produced if the fight is to be won. The surefire way to lose is to think about the temporary emotions of the children being born in a war torn world. For the greater good of all humanity, these children need to be born and they need to continue the fight against the Jewish problem. Otherwise we will become one of the cyborg wastelands of the enemy where the women were manipulated into being independent, sterilized and the population chipped.

And in the new society, we will have to have similar sexual and gender norms as National Socialist Germany and Ancient Greece which women adhering to their roles in society as mothers and caretakers, and men as workers ,providers, and innovative leaders. We will solve the issue of Promiscuity and prevent women from undue suffering from Male behavior. Society will then be fixed.The outlets of female value inflation like Tiktok ,Instagram, Facebook must also be prevented from made again so women don't feel artificially inflated value. Even if they have Financial Independence, they cannot be allowed to be promiscuous. If they aren't promiscuous and they are financially independent the pairbond will still be strong that they will stick with their partner through thick and thin without the need to leave him.

According to current trends and my research, this will play out exactly as I say it will. There will be no female leaders. They will be extremist Male leaders who will fix society first ,and enact the final Solution. The female leaders will come after this century ends (after 2100), when all of humanity will open their astral senses up entirely.

If/when this happens, it's going to be very useful for people, especially SS here, to have skills. If the economy and markets were crashed then being able to make our own clothes, weave our own baskets, plant our own crops, etc. will make it actually possible to have children. The way things in society are now, most people don't even know how to can vegetables and other foods. If the farms are bought up by the enemy like you said then that means all the public farmland will be possessed and occupied. Everyone will be forced to grow their own food on their own land if they even have any. If there was a baby boom in this scenario then I can only see that as bringing children into the world just to starve to death. People need skills if they are going to survive and have children. The very fortunate ones are the ones in places like where I live with a rich recreational lifestyle, where kids are still taught how to fish, hunt, and all that good stuff. Everyone else is screwed in the scenario you are talking about. So for everyone's sake, I truly hope you are wrong about your future sight. Those marxist brainwashed people in the cities, the White ones, they are still my people, and I long for the day when they can be re-educated, deprogrammed, and made into healthy, happy, functioning members of society. I would like to do everything I can to save their souls if possible.

I'm not worried about the shape of things to come. Saturn is going to exit Aquarius in 2023, and then things should be going hilariously wrong for the jews even more than right now.

Another thing I feel on the matter regarding women is that many women are afraid of men, and many men don't really go very far in dispelling that fear and remedying the situation. It's those men who make us all look bad in the eyes of women, especially the mgtow sphere. Thanks to them, it's really no wonder at all to me that women are so afraid of us. I'd be shit scared too if I were a woman and saw the mgtow movement, and then heard any man at all talking about taking away my independence as a human being. I would absolutely not trust a man to guide me in such a climate. Women need to be able to know they can trust men if they are going to coexist with them and follow their lead. I think it's also important for men to be more willing than they are now by and large to listen to women, and really hear them and what they are trying to tell them. There's a culture in the world where the idea is that the man is in charge and doesn't listen to the woman. I mean, it's called a partner. People are supposed to be able to listen to their partner and gain valuable input. If a man truly cannot gain anything valuable from his partner then he's better off finding someone else more on his level, or going it alone, in my opinion. Maybe surrogacy would be an option for a man like that. But many female partners have valuable input and insights to share with their men, and it hurts to be disregarded.

So listening more, and proving to women that men on average are not emotionally unstable, deranged sociopaths who are going to physically harm them while cohabitating. We need a culture upgrade in society more than anything. Xian/jewish values need to die completely. And yes, it's my belief that society has many leftover xian values in the mass consciousness, and if these are destroyed then male/female relations will improve drastically. All the blame on men needs to be pushed back onto the jews as well.

About female leadership. I pretty much agree with what you said here, but that's completely different from what you said in Tabby's thread. You said females can't be leaders, period. I need to know if you are changing your argument here, or if you meant this all along. This is what you said before:
Jack said:
Also I stand behind my comments that women can't be leaders. Nazi Germany didn't have Women leaders (in policy) as well as every great civilization, except allegedly Egypt for some reason. This is because women are on average more emotional than logical due to having 10 times more white matter than men which rules social and interpersonal tasks. And men are more logical than women, having 4 times more gray Matter than women which rules Logic, Reasoning etc. This is why Women scientists are Philosophers have been few and far in between and women overwhelming don't choose STEM careers even though in extreme egalitarian Nordic countries they are taught to do so since youth.
 
Jack, I also want to add that women are not the only ones choosing their own selfishness over the survival of their race and hurting children in the process. Plenty people are selfish and don't give a single thought or care to the consequences of their selfish desires and choices, and how this will hurt and affect their people. For example, I recently found this post by HPHC which really opened my eyes even further about the drug problem. I thought I hated hippies before, but now I hate them even more.
 
Okay, I accidentally pressed ctrl-enter on my last comment, and it said my comment was submitted for approval. If that pops up first then this is the sermon I was going to link by HPHC:

HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
serpentwalker666 said:
I used marijuana in my earlier years. And it had such a profound effect on me compared to others it was insane. I agree it absolutely makes people docile and makes the chakras and aura leak energy. And alters your brain in terrible ways. I went into a state of delusion for a while. seeing creatures and things that were non existant. All kinds of things, because it screwed up my brain back then. It took me a while to get it back together and come back from the gates of madness..... lol. But im fine now. i know this may sound extreme or just too out there. But i know what i experienced and it was not pretty.... And i know what it did for me was absolute torture. Everyone else was fine. .But me. Most assume it is a harmless plant. From my experiences. I see it as a weapon. But im sure alot goes under the radar. It can really crack a hole in your subconcious mind and really screw you up.

It's very simple with these things like weed and so forth. There are people investing into addictive substances, the big sharks, and also the globalist 'Illuminati', sorry I meant kike oligarch, invisible government. Well, the not so invisible government. Sorry I meant the GODDAMN BLATANTLY OBVIOUS- YOU ARE DENYING THE FACTS IF YOU DON'T ADMIT IT- Jewish government.

I am not writing to force people to change their mind in regards to drugs. But to remind you of some lingering issues which many people forget about that.

As with anything deadly, it's promoted as a good thing to begin with. Tabacco has cost more lives than WW1 and WW2 combined, but when the jews were investing in the early stages in it, they hired doctors and so called 'scientists' to promote this thing as some sort of divine relaxant, positive thing, that does so well about any anxiety problem one might possess. It became the 'kool' thing to do during hollywood and so forth.

Marilyn Monroe sits there with her cancer stick, and apparently, why she gets all the boys is because of the cancer stick. So if you buy copious amounts of cancer stick, you will get all the boys. So you buy copious amounts of cancer stick and all you get is disease. And no boys.

Just so that people know, the Torah is very supportive on drugs and hemp and so forth. So this pushing of this is deliberate by the jews. All of which lead the stoner movement. Below a book on the subject. I have skimmed through this thing myself. They also believe it drops spiritual defenses. Which many people who have used the drug from here have pointed out thousands of times.

https://www.amazon.com/Cannabis-Chassidis-Ancient-Emerging-Torah/dp/157027262X

Drugs are like the new tobacco now, especially weed. They make it seem gangsta or revolutionary, but the real revolution anymore is to not do drugs. Given anyone stones themselves. And as you can see, the argument about how good drugs are, is really improving our societies (lol). Because as we all know, life and society do not improve by labor and evolution, you just evolve because you smoke some hemp and sit in an epileptic state while looking at the wall.

All these pastry boring xians go about saying 'oy veh drugs are good to you, turn to jesus'. Turn from excrement, to go and swim in diarrhea. The world the enemy has created is boring, and their messages bombard people to some sort of 'very uplifting experience'. Unfortunately people don't know, and they are naive, or have no life purpose, so why not? They poison themselves to escape from this grim useless reality they have been enslaved into. Only to find themselves going slowly 6 feet deeper everytime.


The real solution to drugs is not some bullshit solution people preach. But spirituality. People yearn for spiritual experience which causes altered and elevated states. So because they don't get this, they resort of drugs. This is the replacement for spirituality in the jewtrix, and an ultimate punishment imposed upon the people who have spiritual tendency. So the enemy punishes them by getting them hooked into drugs. This inclination would have been spiritual instead and could really lead people to a higher level.

"Everything that kills the Goy is a good thing, and everything that weakens the Goy is given to the jews by 'god' to distribute". The protocols of the elders of Zion have a full page on the matter of pushing drugs to weaken the populace.

Add the drug culture, the race mixing, the massive retardation, the subjugation through workforce slavery, the hate they have created in public education by making it boring edjewcation, the consistent boozing out and so forth, the low culture in general. And you get a populace which is completely beaten, lost, and easily controlled. Drugs are one of the corpus in this morbid octapus of jewish control.

When you do drugs, you are telling the drug cartels to keep going, while making the enemy richer. The people who are suffering to create poppies, cocaine and all the related filth, die in slums and they get nothing absolutely, they work like serfs and slaves.

In order for these to exist, people die, people are worked to death (see Colombia) and whole countries get ruined simply because you are too bored to meditate and want to 'get high' like a swine who has been hit on the head with a bat. You are being criminal and selfish by doing drugs, that is the truth. Interestingly so, both parties the jews dupe, the people who create these for them (Their slaves) and the people who use these (Slaves) both get destroyed and suffer for their whole life. The only winner out of this situation is the jew.

Given millions die and perish each year by these habits, and millions of others have their whole countries enslaved so that addicts can have dope, and so that Israel can make money. Supply and demand. If you demand this, know, each time you are asking your jewish dope dealer, that some kid is worked to death and some people perish in the Opium Wars. One of which was the war in Iraq.

Arguing with people who have been deep into drugs is also useless. They are so much into the meme of how painful they are, or how they are going after 'fun'. Well, until they become burnouts. As they have no conscience either. All they care is about 'feeling high', until their little brain is too 'resistant' to this crap and they overdose or something, and when problems kick in, they just most of the time spit on the face of people who try to help them, or get them into this.

Arguing with potards or people on drugs shows how selfish these people are. There are people who get panic attacks, anxiety, lose their sanity, contact HIV, and get all sorts of other lingering issues from drugs. Yet these people just insist on 'sensible use' and other bullshit, and push to open this to the whole of society. Which ultimately would get people to be destroyed, or at least a very striking number who due to weakness would fall addicted and ultimately even perish from it.

They don't care if the whole of society becomes a drug addict, opening innocents to such possibilities, and they don't care about the people who suffer either, they don't care how much it can ruin lives and families worldwide. All it matters is if they feel OK with it and that they can get the ability to sedate themselves. Who cares if some children have their hands cut in Colombia or get abducted like drug lords because their dad did not deliver their coco sauce? That doesn't matter at all. What matters is their 5 minutes of petty.

This is the epitome of human selfishness. So when many people portray drug addicts as some sort of broken snowflakes, let's also see it from the other side, these people are selfish as fuck. They are literally saying how 'hurtful' they are to excuse their nasty habit which kills millions and so forth. The other dudes who say they just do it for fun, even worse, they literally have no reason to do drugs at all.

Those who quit this nasty habit will be rewarded with health, internal repair, and internal pleasure.

Drugs are designed in such a way that they also rob your natural abilities to relax and generally incapacitate you so that you use them all the more, and all the time. This is literally how it works, otherwise, drugs wouldn't be a profitable business. It's like drinking water with a pierced stomach. You feel the satisfaction in your tongue but you never get hydrated. This process goes on until a person dies miserably, or develops serious issues that need a lot of time to repair.

As for those who are serious, nature and the Gods have you covered. This extends beyond race, and beyond any other condition, as Satan gave spiritual gifts to literally everyone existing, that is, granted people want to take a little time to apply. Those who lay off these destructive habits and follow a good meditation schedule, in a balanced and proper manner, will be consistently rising in the ladder of inner warmth and happiness, extremely high and also stable levels.

These types of drugs have been created to hide the higher spiritual reality from all the people of the earth. People may fancy what they mimic, but only few will be entitled to these states. Something which every Satanist can achieve in ways these people cannot even figure out.

Do not let others poison you for a quick buck. Have stature, don't waste your time with filthy objectives.
 
jrvan said:
Jack said:
jrvan said:
To summarize - Jack's argument, if I have understood it correctly, is that women are primarily responsible for lowered birth rates of the White race.

I have disagreed with him and stated my own view that lowered birth rates are primarily a result of two factors:
1. financial
2. marxism and ZOG

Here is a quote from Jack on the other thread:


Jack, if I have misrepresented you then please let me know.
No ,I don't blame women for being like they are in his decadent society. Men aren't any better. While Alpha males should be leading society towards healthy families and values, they are busy running through women and damaging their pairbonding capacity for future relationships. But the reason men are doing this is because they are unable to fulfill their roles as leaders and providers because women are themselves financially independent so they don't need a man for that.

The primary reason for all of this is the way society is set up for men to fail. The Jews are primarily responsible for setting up a society like this and the men are primarily responsible for allowing women to be unrestrained in their lives without accountability.

What's happening is since women have been allowed by men to gain financial independence, they are choosing not to settle down with their match (similar income and looks). They are saying that since they can take care of their own, they don't need to settle and they will rather die alone than get their best.

Since women generally aren't self aware just like most men aren't, they don't understand that statistically their desires cannot be met.

Earlier it was that a woman had to marry a man out of necessity, and she was happy because she was able to pairbond with him. Currently what is happening is that since so many women have been ran through by multiple men their pairbonding ability has been broken and they aren't happy with their counterparts.

Adding Fire to injury, it is currently at best 15 years left till all Caucasian countries will have been replaced by Immigrants from outside (~600 million) through the United Nations Replacement Migration plan.

Nothing can be done politically to retake back the countries due to rigged systems (Election stolen from Donald Trump, his inability to complete the wall and many other things because of marxist judges blocking his order.)

In order for women and men to function normally in society you have to restrict their self destructive activities. For example of Women are to function in a society with financial independence and not end up like Japan they have to be conditioned through media,academia, culture to not be promiscuous (which destroys their pairbonding capacity and beings unhappiness in life.)

The more independence a woman gets, the unhappier she is.
https://www.nber.org/papers/w14969#:~:text=Relative%20declines%20in%20female%20happiness,subjective%20well-being%20for%20men.

The only reason that women are arguing against my points is because they have an ideological relationship with the identity where they cant separate themselves from Feminist ideals which they have been conditioned in through brainwashing through the culture, media,academia (Related : Search Edward Bernays.)

As women have been given more and more independence, they become more and more unhappy. This is because naturally they are supposed to be dependent upon men to lead them and take care of them and their needs (emotional in nature. ) Their unhappiness comes from their inability to keep mem in relationships, which their internal desire is based upon.

Women don't derive the same amount of happiness from material pursuits. The unhappiest demographic of human being in the United States is a woman who is more than 40 years old, childless, is a career woman.

Women derive their happiness from caring for their children and that is their purpose according to their biology. Women on this forum or around the world can fight me in their emotions all they like but the facts are clear that I am right according to their own words and actions. Because they've reported more unhappiness and suffering from since they were allegedly oppressed.

The situation is that adding all of this, it would take some 150 - 200 years according to conservative estimates for Western society to die out with Female choice of not giving children and getting married to average men ,similar to Japan.

But dissimilar to Japan along with liberated women who are refusing to have children, the Western countries are being invaded by millions of Migrants who are extremely fertile and are operating under a anti white ideology which they have been inculcated in through UN refugee camps.

Along with the other plans of Jews such as the Cyber Pandemic which is undergoing and will kill the world economy, making sure that there is no chance for a better opportune moment to have children, better options at life ,better living standards ,ability to give children better lives etc.

After the Covid lockdown hoax this plan was finalized and set in stone where there was no going back again. Alongside this the "National Strategy for Countering Domestic Terrorism " lists the whites who are questioning elections or trying to question the vaccines as Domestic terrorists. Various Government officials have threatened to start a physical war against the Right Wingers which will happen sometime very soon.

As the situation devolves into total anarchy they will stage false flag terror attacks (maybe a Bioterrorist attack or something related) and claim the unvaccinated are responsible. They will then kill the internet off to shut down all communications.
https://www.extremetech.com/computing/132585-us-president-issues-executive-order-that-gives-him-control-of-the-internet

But this war will bear no fruit because most of the military will refuse to fight their own countrymen. This will then cause them to retreat back to major cities ,while the outer cities devolve into lawlessness without food,water,electricity etc (Liberty Eclipse).

Whites will then snap out of their trance and start organizing through paramilitary groups and start to retake back their cities which will be in a state of permanent siege by UN peacekeeper troops and Migrants.

So in order for some 60 million people to fight 340 million people, they will need babies who will continue their fight as replacements. Unless the women want to be die of starvation ,they will need to come back and be dependent upon men to survive.

In the immediate situation, the issue of female independence and unrestrained choice will have to take a back seat as the situation for survival takes the front seat. The liberals and leftists are already checked out of the fight as they've taken the vaccine and will be included in the new beast system inside major cities (United Nations Smart Cities Initiative).

The United States will dissolve and possibly be reborn decades later similar to Europe. It will take decades of continuous fighting to push all the migrants out.

But the children need to be produced if the fight is to be won. The surefire way to lose is to think about the temporary emotions of the children being born in a war torn world. For the greater good of all humanity, these children need to be born and they need to continue the fight against the Jewish problem. Otherwise we will become one of the cyborg wastelands of the enemy where the women were manipulated into being independent, sterilized and the population chipped.

And in the new society, we will have to have similar sexual and gender norms as National Socialist Germany and Ancient Greece which women adhering to their roles in society as mothers and caretakers, and men as workers ,providers, and innovative leaders. We will solve the issue of Promiscuity and prevent women from undue suffering from Male behavior. Society will then be fixed.The outlets of female value inflation like Tiktok ,Instagram, Facebook must also be prevented from made again so women don't feel artificially inflated value. Even if they have Financial Independence, they cannot be allowed to be promiscuous. If they aren't promiscuous and they are financially independent the pairbond will still be strong that they will stick with their partner through thick and thin without the need to leave him.

According to current trends and my research, this will play out exactly as I say it will. There will be no female leaders. They will be extremist Male leaders who will fix society first ,and enact the final Solution. The female leaders will come after this century ends (after 2100), when all of humanity will open their astral senses up entirely.

If/when this happens, it's going to be very useful for people, especially SS here, to have skills. If the economy and markets were crashed then being able to make our own clothes, weave our own baskets, plant our own crops, etc. will make it actually possible to have children. The way things in society are now, most people don't even know how to can vegetables and other foods. If the farms are bought up by the enemy like you said then that means all the public farmland will be possessed and occupied. Everyone will be forced to grow their own food on their own land if they even have any. If there was a baby boom in this scenario then I can only see that as bringing children into the world just to starve to death. People need skills if they are going to survive and have children. The very fortunate ones are the ones in places like where I live with a rich recreational lifestyle, where kids are still taught how to fish, hunt, and all that good stuff. Everyone else is screwed in the scenario you are talking about. So for everyone's sake, I truly hope you are wrong about your future sight. Those marxist brainwashed people in the cities, the White ones, they are still my people, and I long for the day when they can be re-educated, deprogrammed, and made into healthy, happy, functioning members of society. I would like to do everything I can to save their souls if possible.

I'm not worried about the shape of things to come. Saturn is going to exit Aquarius in 2023, and then things should be going hilariously wrong for the jews even more than right now.

Another thing I feel on the matter regarding women is that many women are afraid of men, and many men don't really go very far in dispelling that fear and remedying the situation. It's those men who make us all look bad in the eyes of women, especially the mgtow sphere. Thanks to them, it's really no wonder at all to me that women are so afraid of us. I'd be shit scared too if I were a woman and saw the mgtow movement, and then heard any man at all talking about taking away my independence as a human being. I would absolutely not trust a man to guide me in such a climate. Women need to be able to know they can trust men if they are going to coexist with them and follow their lead. I think it's also important for men to be more willing than they are now by and large to listen to women, and really hear them and what they are trying to tell them. There's a culture in the world where the idea is that the man is in charge and doesn't listen to the woman. I mean, it's called a partner. People are supposed to be able to listen to their partner and gain valuable input. If a man truly cannot gain anything valuable from his partner then he's better off finding someone else more on his level, or going it alone, in my opinion. Maybe surrogacy would be an option for a man like that. But many female partners have valuable input and insights to share with their men, and it hurts to be disregarded.

So listening more, and proving to women that men on average are not emotionally unstable, deranged sociopaths who are going to physically harm them while cohabitating. We need a culture upgrade in society more than anything. Xian/jewish values need to die completely. And yes, it's my belief that society has many leftover xian values in the mass consciousness, and if these are destroyed then male/female relations will improve drastically. All the blame on men needs to be pushed back onto the jews as well.

About female leadership. I pretty much agree with what you said here, but that's completely different from what you said in Tabby's thread. You said females can't be leaders, period. I need to know if you are changing your argument here, or if you meant this all along. This is what you said before:
Jack said:
Also I stand behind my comments that women can't be leaders. Nazi Germany didn't have Women leaders (in policy) as well as every great civilization, except allegedly Egypt for some reason. This is because women are on average more emotional than logical due to having 10 times more white matter than men which rules social and interpersonal tasks. And men are more logical than women, having 4 times more gray Matter than women which rules Logic, Reasoning etc. This is why Women scientists are Philosophers have been few and far in between and women overwhelming don't choose STEM careers even though in extreme egalitarian Nordic countries they are taught to do so since youth.
I didn't change my argument. As I said women on a balance of probabilities cannot be leaders because they are not biologically primed for that. There might be an alternate reality where some women could become leaders after having a spiritual awakening but I'm operating in this current world and not the next world. The reason why I said women could be leaders after 2100 is because till then we would have established the Sanatana Dharma as world religion and everyone's astral sense would be open to override their animal and biological tendencies.
 
jrvan said:
Another thing I feel on the matter regarding women is that many women are afraid of men
What exactly do you mean by this. Are you talking about a physical primal fear or something else like a fear of incompatibility?

Many men don't really go very far in dispelling that fear and remedying the situation. It's those men who make us all look bad in the eyes of women, especially the mgtow sphere. Thanks to them, it's really no wonder at all to me that women are so afraid of us. I'd be shit scared too if I were a woman and saw the mgtow movement, and then heard any man at all talking about taking away my independence as a human being. I would absolutely not trust a man to guide me in such a climate.
I don’t know why you think that this is a way one way street. No man wakes up one day and makes the conscious decision that they hate women. It’s the same with anything else. It takes a long time of of looking at something a certain way to form these beliefs. Someone asks why do we hate Jews? We look at all of their past actions and behavior. Now mgtow/incel people are looking at things in the wrong perspective but my point still stands. They didn’t arrive to that conclusion for no reason.

I also think that your original statement just isn’t true. If a woman had a normal childhood and life up until an adult and didn’t delve into feminism or any other one of the toxic ideas by the enemy then she has no problem with men and probably really likes them. Same goes for men. Things just become a problem the Jew starts whispering doubt and poison into peoples ears.

I think it's also important for men to be more willing than they are now by and large to listen to women, and really hear them and what they are trying to tell them. There's a culture in the world where the idea is that the man is in charge and doesn't listen to the woman. I mean, it's called a partner.
This is something else that needs elaboration. Which women should we be listening to? It sounds like you’re talking about ones significant other. Of course I would Listen to my lady but that doesn’t mean do everything that she says/wants like some cuck. I would “listen” to my SO if she said we should receive a CoVid injection. I would decline and explain why that is NOT happening. If she still doesn’t agree or want to compromise then it’s her loss. The buck should ultimately stop with you as the one in the relationship with literal balls. (To put it crudely).

So listening more, and proving to women that men on average are not emotionally unstable, deranged sociopaths who are going to physically harm them while cohabitating.
I thought a big point of this post was to NOT be on defense, but now that seems to have changed. Why should men have to defend themselves against these insane and obviously untrue accusations? Only a woman that is deranged or has been physically abused and traumatized for years on end by a man would believe this.

About female leadership. I pretty much agree with what you said here, but that's completely different from what you said in Tabby's thread. You said females can't be leaders, period.
Not to say that there could never be a competent female leader, but I think the point was that out of a sample size of 1000 females and 1000 males you would find a lot more leaders out of the male sample.
 
jrvan said:
Okay, I accidentally pressed ctrl-enter on my last comment, and it said my comment was submitted for approval. If that pops up first then this is the sermon I was going to link by HPHC:

HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
serpentwalker666 said:
I used marijuana in my earlier years. And it had such a profound effect on me compared to others it was insane. I agree it absolutely makes people docile and makes the chakras and aura leak energy. And alters your brain in terrible ways. I went into a state of delusion for a while. seeing creatures and things that were non existant. All kinds of things, because it screwed up my brain back then. It took me a while to get it back together and come back from the gates of madness..... lol. But im fine now. i know this may sound extreme or just too out there. But i know what i experienced and it was not pretty.... And i know what it did for me was absolute torture. Everyone else was fine. .But me. Most assume it is a harmless plant. From my experiences. I see it as a weapon. But im sure alot goes under the radar. It can really crack a hole in your subconcious mind and really screw you up.

It's very simple with these things like weed and so forth. There are people investing into addictive substances, the big sharks, and also the globalist 'Illuminati', sorry I meant kike oligarch, invisible government. Well, the not so invisible government. Sorry I meant the GODDAMN BLATANTLY OBVIOUS- YOU ARE DENYING THE FACTS IF YOU DON'T ADMIT IT- Jewish government.

I am not writing to force people to change their mind in regards to drugs. But to remind you of some lingering issues which many people forget about that.

As with anything deadly, it's promoted as a good thing to begin with. Tabacco has cost more lives than WW1 and WW2 combined, but when the jews were investing in the early stages in it, they hired doctors and so called 'scientists' to promote this thing as some sort of divine relaxant, positive thing, that does so well about any anxiety problem one might possess. It became the 'kool' thing to do during hollywood and so forth.

Marilyn Monroe sits there with her cancer stick, and apparently, why she gets all the boys is because of the cancer stick. So if you buy copious amounts of cancer stick, you will get all the boys. So you buy copious amounts of cancer stick and all you get is disease. And no boys.

Just so that people know, the Torah is very supportive on drugs and hemp and so forth. So this pushing of this is deliberate by the jews. All of which lead the stoner movement. Below a book on the subject. I have skimmed through this thing myself. They also believe it drops spiritual defenses. Which many people who have used the drug from here have pointed out thousands of times.

https://www.amazon.com/Cannabis-Chassidis-Ancient-Emerging-Torah/dp/157027262X

Drugs are like the new tobacco now, especially weed. They make it seem gangsta or revolutionary, but the real revolution anymore is to not do drugs. Given anyone stones themselves. And as you can see, the argument about how good drugs are, is really improving our societies (lol). Because as we all know, life and society do not improve by labor and evolution, you just evolve because you smoke some hemp and sit in an epileptic state while looking at the wall.

All these pastry boring xians go about saying 'oy veh drugs are good to you, turn to jesus'. Turn from excrement, to go and swim in diarrhea. The world the enemy has created is boring, and their messages bombard people to some sort of 'very uplifting experience'. Unfortunately people don't know, and they are naive, or have no life purpose, so why not? They poison themselves to escape from this grim useless reality they have been enslaved into. Only to find themselves going slowly 6 feet deeper everytime.


The real solution to drugs is not some bullshit solution people preach. But spirituality. People yearn for spiritual experience which causes altered and elevated states. So because they don't get this, they resort of drugs. This is the replacement for spirituality in the jewtrix, and an ultimate punishment imposed upon the people who have spiritual tendency. So the enemy punishes them by getting them hooked into drugs. This inclination would have been spiritual instead and could really lead people to a higher level.

"Everything that kills the Goy is a good thing, and everything that weakens the Goy is given to the jews by 'god' to distribute". The protocols of the elders of Zion have a full page on the matter of pushing drugs to weaken the populace.

Add the drug culture, the race mixing, the massive retardation, the subjugation through workforce slavery, the hate they have created in public education by making it boring edjewcation, the consistent boozing out and so forth, the low culture in general. And you get a populace which is completely beaten, lost, and easily controlled. Drugs are one of the corpus in this morbid octapus of jewish control.

When you do drugs, you are telling the drug cartels to keep going, while making the enemy richer. The people who are suffering to create poppies, cocaine and all the related filth, die in slums and they get nothing absolutely, they work like serfs and slaves.

In order for these to exist, people die, people are worked to death (see Colombia) and whole countries get ruined simply because you are too bored to meditate and want to 'get high' like a swine who has been hit on the head with a bat. You are being criminal and selfish by doing drugs, that is the truth. Interestingly so, both parties the jews dupe, the people who create these for them (Their slaves) and the people who use these (Slaves) both get destroyed and suffer for their whole life. The only winner out of this situation is the jew.

Given millions die and perish each year by these habits, and millions of others have their whole countries enslaved so that addicts can have dope, and so that Israel can make money. Supply and demand. If you demand this, know, each time you are asking your jewish dope dealer, that some kid is worked to death and some people perish in the Opium Wars. One of which was the war in Iraq.

Arguing with people who have been deep into drugs is also useless. They are so much into the meme of how painful they are, or how they are going after 'fun'. Well, until they become burnouts. As they have no conscience either. All they care is about 'feeling high', until their little brain is too 'resistant' to this crap and they overdose or something, and when problems kick in, they just most of the time spit on the face of people who try to help them, or get them into this.

Arguing with potards or people on drugs shows how selfish these people are. There are people who get panic attacks, anxiety, lose their sanity, contact HIV, and get all sorts of other lingering issues from drugs. Yet these people just insist on 'sensible use' and other bullshit, and push to open this to the whole of society. Which ultimately would get people to be destroyed, or at least a very striking number who due to weakness would fall addicted and ultimately even perish from it.

They don't care if the whole of society becomes a drug addict, opening innocents to such possibilities, and they don't care about the people who suffer either, they don't care how much it can ruin lives and families worldwide. All it matters is if they feel OK with it and that they can get the ability to sedate themselves. Who cares if some children have their hands cut in Colombia or get abducted like drug lords because their dad did not deliver their coco sauce? That doesn't matter at all. What matters is their 5 minutes of petty.

This is the epitome of human selfishness. So when many people portray drug addicts as some sort of broken snowflakes, let's also see it from the other side, these people are selfish as fuck. They are literally saying how 'hurtful' they are to excuse their nasty habit which kills millions and so forth. The other dudes who say they just do it for fun, even worse, they literally have no reason to do drugs at all.

Those who quit this nasty habit will be rewarded with health, internal repair, and internal pleasure.

Drugs are designed in such a way that they also rob your natural abilities to relax and generally incapacitate you so that you use them all the more, and all the time. This is literally how it works, otherwise, drugs wouldn't be a profitable business. It's like drinking water with a pierced stomach. You feel the satisfaction in your tongue but you never get hydrated. This process goes on until a person dies miserably, or develops serious issues that need a lot of time to repair.

As for those who are serious, nature and the Gods have you covered. This extends beyond race, and beyond any other condition, as Satan gave spiritual gifts to literally everyone existing, that is, granted people want to take a little time to apply. Those who lay off these destructive habits and follow a good meditation schedule, in a balanced and proper manner, will be consistently rising in the ladder of inner warmth and happiness, extremely high and also stable levels.

These types of drugs have been created to hide the higher spiritual reality from all the people of the earth. People may fancy what they mimic, but only few will be entitled to these states. Something which every Satanist can achieve in ways these people cannot even figure out.

Do not let others poison you for a quick buck. Have stature, don't waste your time with filthy objectives.
Ironically I find women who smoke revolting.
 
jrvan said:
Another thing I feel on the matter regarding women is that many women are afraid of men
SouthernWhiteGentile said:
What exactly do you mean by this. Are you talking about a physical primal fear or something else like a fear of incompatibility?

Fear of being physically harmed and abused. I think some people forget that wife beaters used to be a much bigger problem just a few decades or about a half century ago. That's very recent history. It was also the norm for men to lash children with their belt, spank, punch, hit, etc... I think mothers and women in general would be (and should be in my opinion) naturally afraid of society becoming like that again because it would be unsafe for their children. Things like that would most likely return if xians, mgtows, and general misogynists got their way.

Sadly, women beat their children back then too. I remember hearing stories of the ol' wooden paddle. I really think the women who are out of xianity, and who are healthy and sane, should look back at what parents were like to their children, and make sure that such a thing doesn't make a comeback. Child abuse and all that evil shit is 100% jewish/xian.

jrvan said:
Many men don't really go very far in dispelling that fear and remedying the situation. It's those men who make us all look bad in the eyes of women, especially the mgtow sphere. Thanks to them, it's really no wonder at all to me that women are so afraid of us. I'd be shit scared too if I were a woman and saw the mgtow movement, and then heard any man at all talking about taking away my independence as a human being. I would absolutely not trust a man to guide me in such a climate.
SouthernWhiteGentile said:
I don’t know why you think that this is a way one way street. No man wakes up one day and makes the conscious decision that they hate women. It’s the same with anything else. It takes a long time of of looking at something a certain way to form these beliefs. Someone asks why do we hate Jews? We look at all of their past actions and behavior. Now mgtow/incel people are looking at things in the wrong perspective but my point still stands. They didn’t arrive to that conclusion for no reason.

I also think that your original statement just isn’t true. If a woman had a normal childhood and life up until an adult and didn’t delve into feminism or any other one of the toxic ideas by the enemy then she has no problem with men and probably really likes them. Same goes for men. Things just become a problem the Jew starts whispering doubt and poison into peoples ears.

I agree with you that it's not a one way street. I just choose not to particularly focus on the side of toxic women. I could go into much detail about it, and maybe the reason I subconsciously avoid it is because of my own scars (just guessing about that, honestly). I know how terrifying a bad mother is, or even an abusive female partner. I also know how dangerous it is to have overly selfish women in society who don't think of the survival of their species (but women aren't the only selfish ones either, see my comments above regarding hippies). I also have my own belief that it's more productive to enlighten men first and help them to wake up to the issue of the jews scapegoating them collectively for xianity so that they can focus on that instead of fighting their own people. Besides, I think it would be better coming from a female voice to talk to women about these things on their side, and the overall misandry. Maxine did a wonderful job with everything, and her words are there for all females to learn from and heal and grow. I haven't read every single one of her sermons yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if she touched on the issue at one point or another even if indirectly.

Healing in overall society is going to take time because like you said it didn't happen overnight, but at the very least people can stop fighting against each other, and instead fight the jews. Every single person who changes their ways and sees clearly through the jewish illusions is -1 to the problem. That's why I'm grateful for the strong efforts of the internet warfare battalion led by Blitzkreig and others. They're doing great work.

jrvan said:
I think it's also important for men to be more willing than they are now by and large to listen to women, and really hear them and what they are trying to tell them. There's a culture in the world where the idea is that the man is in charge and doesn't listen to the woman. I mean, it's called a partner.
SouthernWhiteGentile said:
This is something else that needs elaboration. Which women should we be listening to? It sounds like you’re talking about ones significant other. Of course I would Listen to my lady but that doesn’t mean do everything that she says/wants like some cuck. I would “listen” to my SO if she said we should receive a CoVid injection. I would decline and explain why that is NOT happening. If she still doesn’t agree or want to compromise then it’s her loss. The buck should ultimately stop with you as the one in the relationship with literal balls. (To put it crudely).

No disagreement at all on this. I feel the same. I think that's how it should be in a partnership. Listen and evaluate rather than give in and fall in line. Tabby and I have disagreed on things before, and we made an effort to listen to each other about it. Sometimes I still won't change my mind after hearing her out, and explain my reasoning for why. Sometimes she manages to convince me after I think about it for a while, and I manage to see something new that wasn't registering in my mind before. And there's plenty of times where I convinced her of something, and she changed her mind about it as a result. I don't think either side should have absolute dominion over the other because that wouldn't be a partnership. So yeah, I totally agree here. Men definitely shouldn't be pushovers.

jrvan said:
So listening more, and proving to women that men on average are not emotionally unstable, deranged sociopaths who are going to physically harm them while cohabitating.
SouthernWhiteGentile said:
I thought a big point of this post was to NOT be on defense, but now that seems to have changed. Why should men have to defend themselves against these insane and obviously untrue accusations? Only a woman that is deranged or has been physically abused and traumatized for years on end by a man would believe this.
I wasn't meaning defense. What I mean by proving is proving through our actions overtime. I believe most sane women can see that the only bad men are in xian circles, mgtow movements, and generally misogynists and sociopaths. There's no convincing the feminists right now because they're stuck in their views, and convinced that all men are evil no matter what (and they come up with stupid brain dead theories like "manspreading"). I don't expect to convince them anytime soon. And good men outside of the previously mentioned spheres already do actively demonstrate through their actions and all that they aren't going to hurt women, and if that trend continues to provide a contrast to all of the trashy mgtow types and such, then maybe as time goes forward more and more radicalized feminists who aren't jews will end up leaving their movement after opening their eyes. That's already happening anyway. Basically men just shouldn't do what the jews want them to do, and stop playing into their hands. This means being ourselves, blaming the jews as we should, and not talking trash about the female sex. Anytime someone makes poor generalized statements about females collectively, I think it reinforces certain feminist talking points and beliefs. It runs the risk of driving another otherwise sane woman into their camps.

jrvan said:
About female leadership. I pretty much agree with what you said here, but that's completely different from what you said in Tabby's thread. You said females can't be leaders, period.
SouthernWhiteGentile said:
Not to say that there could never be a competent female leader, but I think the point was that out of a sample size of 1000 females and 1000 males you would find a lot more leaders out of the male sample.

That sounds reasonable, but that's not what he was saying before in Tabby's thread. Or at least it didn't seem like it was what he was saying. I think he could use a lot of work on his presentation skills if you're right about what he meant.
 
Aquarius said:
Ironically I find women who smoke revolting.

Me too, man. I had to grow up with that because all the women in the family smoked. It was terrible. I mean, whenever I'm around anyone who smokes I just want to get away from them as fast as possible because it smells so gross to me and I hate it. But yeah especially women with that habit are a major turn off for me as well. I get that.

I had pothead neighbors not that long ago. I was pretty happy when they moved out, and I'm even happier that I got a nice, amazing, quiet introvert girl as a replacement neighbor. I hit the jackpot. She doesn't ever talk to me, but she's great.
 
jrvan said:
Aquarius said:
Ironically I find women who smoke revolting.

Me too, man. I had to grow up with that because all the women in the family smoked. It was terrible. I mean, whenever I'm around anyone who smokes I just want to get away from them as fast as possible because it smells so gross to me and I hate it. But yeah especially women with that habit are a major turn off for me as well. I get that.

I had pothead neighbors not that long ago. I was pretty happy when they moved out, and I'm even happier that I got a nice, amazing, quiet introvert girl as a replacement neighbor. I hit the jackpot. She doesn't ever talk to me, but she's great.
I feel you. I've got smokers in the family too, also a cigar smoker. When I went to school I sometimes had to smell that weed smell at the entrance because edgy kids had to show off, that was an instant bad day.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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