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Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:42 am

So what do you suggest other than FRTR+Tetra and the usual Yoga+Void+ACandAoP?
Every time I go back to the Meditation page I feel a little stupid, like I'm there again just trying to look for an answer I should ALREADY have found, without being able to see what should be more priority (other than the above obviously).
What's your daily routine like, Brother?

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

Have you tried RAUM-meditation? It's pretty strong boost, I must say. Reserve at least 25 minutes for it though.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:42 am

luis wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:29 am

It says like that because when the rituals were made we did not have a schedule and we could do the whenever. Now everytime we asked Hoodedcobra666 said we should just do the Frtr and tetra. Doing an rtr alone is not as powerful when done as a group, you better give all the energy to the frtr and tetra.

Can't wait for the JoS to be updated.. there's more and more stuff coming up that's either a paradox or simply outdated knowledge that's clearer now, years after. Even information about some of our Gods' multiple names, as I see it's asked a lot on this forum.
Hopefully this gets done soon.. :/ but then again, I'm not as advanced or experienced to know how busy an High Priest is during an average day, especially now with all that's constantly happening.

So what do you suggest other than FRTR+Tetra and the usual Yoga+Void+ACandAoP?
Every time I go back to the Meditation page I feel a little stupid, like I'm there again just trying to look for an answer I should ALREADY have found, without being able to see what should be more priority (other than the above obviously).
What's your daily routine like, Brother?

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

You could do the King and Queen meditation, the Raum meditation or the Merkaba if you are ready. As long as you keep doing the basic stuff its fine. You could unblock chakras that needed it with the thurisaz rune and you could fix health issues you may have or get rid of hung-ups, all of this is needed to advance.

Henu the Great wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:46 am

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:42 am

So what do you suggest other than FRTR+Tetra and the usual Yoga+Void+ACandAoP?
Every time I go back to the Meditation page I feel a little stupid, like I'm there again just trying to look for an answer I should ALREADY have found, without being able to see what should be more priority (other than the above obviously).
What's your daily routine like, Brother?

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

Have you tried RAUM-meditation? It's pretty strong boost, I must say. Reserve at least 25 minutes for it though.

Good call and yes, I just restarted doing it (although so far I never felt a thing from it before but I guess I should do it longer).

I just made it part of my daily routine so.. we'll see when it works. Thanks Brother.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:40 am

Good call and yes, I just restarted doing it (although so far I never felt a thing from it before but I guess I should do it longer).

I just made it part of my daily routine so.. we'll see when it works. Thanks Brother.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

Over the past 11 months I have done it thrice, and yesterday was the last time. I did the raum 13x which took me 13 minutes. After that 40x of the second part and that took me about the same. After that I did 18x surya with 9x affirmation for easy money just because I wanted to use that energy to something and it was that or cleaning. This was definitely the time that I got the best result from it due to doing the proper amount of vibratons patiently and I think daily cleaning has paid off also not to mention yoga.

I don't know how much time you have spent for it, but as with mantras usually slower results in more power. My torso and head was buzzing, and heart chakra got activated at the end. This is very new thing for me this life, but I will keep doing it occasionally for now, and maybe add it to daily routine later this year.

Are you doing kundalini yoga and hatha yoga daily?

Henu the Great wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:01 pm

Over the past 11 months I have done it thrice, and yesterday was the last time. I did the raum 13x which took me 13 minutes. After that 40x of the second part and that took me about the same. After that I did 18x surya with 9x affirmation for easy money just because I wanted to use that energy to something and it was that or cleaning. This was definitely the time that I got the best result from it due to doing the proper amount of vibratons patiently and I think daily cleaning has paid off also not to mention yoga.

I don't know how much time you have spent for it, but as with mantras usually slower results in more power. My torso and head was buzzing, and heart chakra got activated at the end. This is very new thing for me this life, but I will keep doing it occasionally for now, and maybe add it to daily routine later this year.

Are you doing kundalini yoga and hatha yoga daily?

Three times and you got that much out of it? That's amazing result to me.. if the 13x only takes 13 minutes a day I strongly suggest you keep it up daily and see where it takes you. I still remember this dude months ago who said he used to vibrate RAUM for like 400 days and (because Raum is also a God who bestows the ability to speak with animals and understand them, AND HPS Maxine said that vibrating the Gods' names will somehow strengthen their abilities in you too) he got incredible results with wild animals (didn't get too specific as it's not exactly safe to speak too publicly with all the kikes spying on us, but the concept was an eye opener).

Yeah, I do daily (almost, I'm fixing that) Kundalini yoga and Hatha yoga.. they're something that I learned has way more benefits than advertised.
Also, but this I guess comes later, I read about Raja Yoga, which is basically the entire energetic/magickal part of Yoga, which is supposed to teach you and make you realize about your own "8 Siddhis". Look them up if you haven't.. some of them DO sound like a physical impossibility... then again, HPS Maxine did mention that "the mind can accomplish everything" (or something like this) and I don't really know how to quantify that. I've had one experience in this life that has changes all my view on what is possible physically and what isn't, and the outcome of that is that I don't believe we should limit our thinking because if not everything, then NEARLY everything is possible and can happen in an instant, as long as we direct the right energy, willpower, and do it properly.

Weird thought I just had...
Almost twenty years ago when I was just getting started with Spiritual Satanism I asked the pendulum about my Guardian's name and I initially got RAUM. Now I know he's not my Guardian, but I can't help thinking it might have been a clue to follow this meditation (I don't think the Raum Meditation was already out, it might have been a sign for me to pay attention to future meditations posted in the JoS).

I'll definitely rewrite my training and add this one daily. Let's see what happens. Thanks for the feedback, Brother.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:10 pm

Henu the Great wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:01 pm

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HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

Please do check your e-mail. Thanks Brother.

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 12, 2021 2:23 am

Please do check your e-mail. Thanks Brother.

Thanks for the message. Replied.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 11, 2021 8:40 am

Henu the Great wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 11, 2021 2:46 am

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 11, 2021 1:42 am

So what do you suggest other than FRTR+Tetra and the usual Yoga+Void+ACandAoP?
Every time I go back to the Meditation page I feel a little stupid, like I'm there again just trying to look for an answer I should ALREADY have found, without being able to see what should be more priority (other than the above obviously).
What's your daily routine like, Brother?

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

Have you tried RAUM-meditation? It's pretty strong boost, I must say. Reserve at least 25 minutes for it though.

Good call and yes, I just restarted doing it (although so far I never felt a thing from it before but I guess I should do it longer).

I just made it part of my daily routine so.. we'll see when it works. Thanks Brother.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

How do you NOT feel anything? If you don't feel anything, you're vibrating the mantras wrong. The mantras need to be at the frequency that makes your chakra vibrate. So, the R makes your muladhara chakra vibrate, the A your svadhisthana, etc.

This is mantra 101, explained in the very first meditation to open the soul (third eye). If you're not feeling the vibration in the chakras, then you need to adjust the frequency until you feel it, which can require a few tries.

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 11, 2021 11:10 pm

Yeah, I do daily (almost, I'm fixing that) Kundalini yoga and Hatha yoga.. they're something that I learned has way more benefits than advertised.

I am now doing both daily because that's what is required. I used to skip days, and not do kundalini yoga much at all, but I fixed this ~1.5 months ago. I had to critically ponder what is important and what is not, and priotitize my usage of time. Doing both daily is not a problem in any way anymore.

Also, but this I guess comes later, I read about Raja Yoga, which is basically the entire energetic/magickal part of Yoga, which is supposed to teach you and make you realize about your own "8 Siddhis". Look them up if you haven't.. some of them DO sound like a physical impossibility... then again, HPS Maxine did mention that "the mind can accomplish everything" (or something like this) and I don't really know how to quantify that. I've had one experience in this life that has changes all my view on what is possible physically and what isn't, and the outcome of that is that I don't believe we should limit our thinking because if not everything, then NEARLY everything is possible and can happen in an instant, as long as we direct the right energy, willpower, and do it properly.

She is right. It's just that due to times being what they are it's very hard and arduous process to get to such a level. One more reason not to skip physical yoga.

Stormblood wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 12, 2021 12:53 pm

How do you NOT feel anything? If you don't feel anything, you're vibrating the mantras wrong. The mantras need to be at the frequency that makes your chakra vibrate. So, the R makes your muladhara chakra vibrate, the A your svadhisthana, etc.

This is mantra 101, explained in the very first meditation to open the soul (third eye). If you're not feeling the vibration in the chakras, then you need to adjust the frequency until you feel it, which can require a few tries.

My strong lack of feeling was the number one reason for which I joined this Forum over one year ago. No matter what I did, RAUM, MerKaBa, even Elements most of the time, I would feel nothing or very, very faint energy, so faint that I often thought it would be my desire to feel it instead of actual energy.

I did begin to feel more after finally giving a serious effort to the Final RTR and I also felt something "start" in the muladhara after the first times I've done the three Serpent RTRs (Removing Curse, Removing Obstacles, Empowering for Gentiles), so I'm sure SOMETHING is working. Only the energy is generally still nothing compared to what others constantly describe. I started the Element absorption meditations HPS Maxine recommends to start with 2-3 breaths WITH the recommended amount of breaths, but had to raise the bar to a lot more than that before I'd definitely feeling something. Haven't really counted as I focus on the feeling, but I'm around 70 or 80, sometimes more as in terms of time I did some for one or two hours straight.

The only Element I felt and that gave me some problems (noticeable ones) was the only missing one from my chart, the other three are almost equally balanced and never gave me trouble at all.

Regarding adjusting the vibrations, that's exactly what I started doing. I begin the first RAUM (1st to heart) with a lower tone, and try the second RAUM (heart to crown) with a higher pitch that DOES some vibrating in the chakras...

I guess I'll follow your advice and try every single vibration and tone my voice can produce until I feel something in EACH chakra.
This is quite possibly my greatest and only problem in Spiritual Satanism. Feeling energy. If I did clearly, I have no idea how far I would go and how little that would take me, as I usually learn everything practical very quickly.

Thanks for the hint, Brother.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

Henu the Great wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 12, 2021 8:49 pm

She is right. It's just that due to times being what they are it's very hard and arduous process to get to such a level. One more reason not to skip physical yoga.

THANK YOU. Most of the time when I bring this up or read about someone else saying it, people tend to dismiss something too.. you know.. "impossible?" as just that. It's too wonderful/fantastic/unheard of so it just can't be possible.

Well, fuck that thinking, I say. I trust HPS Maxine knows what is possible more than someone who's not even accomplished half what she's done in this life alone, so I'll believe her before dismissing anything.

I've been reading about Raja Yoga (forgot this name, just lately re-read the same VERY OLD book I first found this information in) when I was like 13 and immediately felt a strong connection with that information. I just knew it was legit and possible. Even if the "Siddhis" described defied what we're constantly led to believe as 'physical limitations'. Fuck limitations, this is Spiritual Satanism.
Isn't EVERYthing energy? Isn't "matter" energy as well? Well, then we can manipulate it in every way we can train ourselves to do so.

I don't believe anything is impossible anymore. Thanks for being smarted than most, Brother.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 13, 2021 12:09 am

I don't believe anything is impossible anymore. Thanks for being smarted than most, Brother.

I don't know if it's the smarts or simply that I feel it in my unconcious that these things are real despite the times being like very uncouraging in terms of low vibration all over yet at the same time it's like I've seen it before, or have I? Heck, I just want to do my best to gain my past knowledge and ascend...

Never give up bro.

Henu the Great wrote: ↑

Sun Mar 14, 2021 12:30 am

I don't know if it's the smarts or simply that I feel it in my unconcious that these things are real despite the times being like very uncouraging in terms of low vibration all over yet at the same time it's like I've seen it before, or have I? Heck, I just want to do my best to gain my past knowledge and ascend...

Never give up bro.

Couldn't help but laugh, Brother.. for a moment there I felt as if this entry of yours could be something we'll find in the future, maybe a far one, and we'll laugh about ever "wondering" if our future present will be possible at all.

I do believe you've seen it before, as I feel very much the same. The proof I had in this life is simply one more drop to nourish the knowledge I already have.

Never give up, indeed, and be careful. I have a feeling these days are even harder for those who are advanced, attracting so much unwanted attention it makes some turn away from our path. See it before, and I know the enemy is certainly trying its best to do it again. Always be cautious, no protection is ever too much.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 09, 2021 12:35 am

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Sun Feb 21, 2021 12:35 pm

I started doing FRTR,its been 4 days. There are 22 letters to be reversed.

Thanks for helping me in advance.
HAIL SATAN!

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Personally, I'd fill half my day with rituals and RTRs if I could, they've been doing SO freaking much I can't even quantify it anymore.

HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

Yeah thanks a lot for the help brother I appreciate it.

luis wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:29 am

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:06 am

luis wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 09, 2021 10:04 am

You should not do the 42 rtr if its not on the schedule. Only the F-rtr and tetra for now.

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HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:...

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HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

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Luis, one more question if you dont mind brother. Do you use any affirmation for cleaning the chakras ? and cleaning the aura? If yes then what are those? Or i dont need affirmation for cleaning aura? and only affirm for chakras?

What i do is i vibrate surya for 72 time (i will increase it soon) imagining myself in bright light (no affirmations)
And on chakras i vibrate raum on each for 9 reps (also no affirmation) do i need affirmation for this?

I m kind of confused for which things i need affirmations for and for which things i dont need.

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:07 am

luis wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:29 am

Satan_is_our_Father666 wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 10, 2021 12:06 am

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HAIL SATAN FOREVER!

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Luis, one more question if you dont mind brother. Do you use any affirmation for cleaning the chakras ? and cleaning the aura? If yes then what are those? Or i dont need affirmation for cleaning aura? and only affirm for chakras?

What i do is i vibrate surya for 72 time (i will increase it soon) imagining myself in bright light (no affirmations)
And on chakras i vibrate raum on each for 9 reps (also no affirmation) do i need affirmation for this?

I m kind of confused for which things i need affirmations for and for which things i dont need.

Every working needs affirmations. You could the returning curses 1 and 2. You dont need to do 216 reps if you can't, you can start with 72 or less. I suggest to stop that working and start the returning curses. If you dont want to do the returning curses you could restart the same working that you are already doing and add an affirmation for protection. For example:"In a positive way for me I'm always protected and free from negative energy". Just feel that your chakras, soul and aura are free from any negative energy and you'll be fine.

luis wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:58 pm

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:07 am

luis wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 10, 2021 9:29 am

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Every working needs affirmations. You could the returning curses 1 and 2. You dont need to do 216 reps if you can't, you can start with 72 or less. I suggest to stop that working and start the returning curses. If you dont want to do the returning curses you could restart the same working that you are already doing and add an affirmation for protection. For example:"In a positive way for me I'm always protected and free from negative energy". Just feel that your chakras, soul and aura are free from any negative energy and you'll be fine.

Ohhh i understand it now,sorry if i ask stupid questions sometimes. I read a lot and then i get confused and my brain starts to demand every detail so i dont do anything wrong. Also if you are comfortable can you provide me with your email brother that way if i have any question i can ask you there and dont have to wait for approval of messages. It takes an entire day to get one question answered.

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:41 pm

luis wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:58 pm

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 8:07 am

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Every working needs affirmations. You could the returning curses 1 and 2. You dont need to do 216 reps if you can't, you can start with 72 or less. I suggest to stop that working and start the returning curses. If you dont want to do the returning curses you could restart the same working that you are already doing and add an affirmation for protection. For example:"In a positive way for me I'm always protected and free from negative energy". Just feel that your chakras, soul and aura are free from any negative energy and you'll be fine.

Ohhh i understand it now,sorry if i ask stupid questions sometimes. I read a lot and then i get confused and my brain starts to demand every detail so i dont do anything wrong. Also if you are comfortable can you provide me with your email brother that way if i have any question i can ask you there and dont have to wait for approval of messages. It takes an entire day to get one question answered.

Don't worry about it. I do have an overactive mind like you, void meditation helps a lot with it. Unfortunately, as much as I respect and love what HP Maxine did with the Jos and nobody could do the things she did, the Jos needs to be updated and some things to be explained in a better way like for example that you need to use an affirmation after you have vibrated a mantra/rune or raised your energies in a different way. This may be confusing for new people, luckily we have the forums.

About my email, the ones I use for these forums I don't check often, you better post a new topic if you need any information and/or look in the forum for the answers, there are many posts and your questions may have already be answered. I check the forum way more often than my email.

luis wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:55 pm

Don't worry about it. I do have an overactive mind like you, void meditation helps a lot with it. Unfortunately, as much as I respect and love what HP Maxine did with the Jos and nobody could do the things she did, the Jos needs to be updated and some things to be explained in a better way like for example that you need to use an affirmation after you have vibrated a mantra/rune or raised your energies in a different way. This may be confusing for new people, luckily we have the forums.

It's already explained in JoS.

1. You raise the energy

2. You program the energy

3. You direct the energy.

From: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfir ... Steps.html

The affirmation is simply foolproof method to direct energy. A strong mind, and a strong will does not need words to direct energy.

Henu the Great wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:57 pm

luis wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:55 pm

Don't worry about it. I do have an overactive mind like you, void meditation helps a lot with it. Unfortunately, as much as I respect and love what HP Maxine did with the Jos and nobody could do the things she did, the Jos needs to be updated and some things to be explained in a better way like for example that you need to use an affirmation after you have vibrated a mantra/rune or raised your energies in a different way. This may be confusing for new people, luckily we have the forums.

It's already explained in JoS.

1. You raise the energy

2. You program the energy

3. You direct the energy.

From: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfir ... Steps.html

The affirmation is simply foolproof method to direct energy. A strong mind, and a strong will does not need words to direct energy.

Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.

luis wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:42 am

Henu the Great wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:57 pm

luis wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:55 pm

Don't worry about it. I do have an overactive mind like you, void meditation helps a lot with it. Unfortunately, as much as I respect and love what HP Maxine did with the Jos and nobody could do the things she did, the Jos needs to be updated and some things to be explained in a better way like for example that you need to use an affirmation after you have vibrated a mantra/rune or raised your energies in a different way. This may be confusing for new people, luckily we have the forums.

It's already explained in JoS.

1. You raise the energy

2. You program the energy

3. You direct the energy.

From: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfir ... Steps.html

The affirmation is simply foolproof method to direct energy. A strong mind, and a strong will does not need words to direct energy.

Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.

What confused me the most is when i look at aura cleaning and aura of protection topics in forums they have same affirmation,almost same. For example in AC people suggest to use "I m always safe protected and healthy in every way at all times"
Then gain, in AOP people suggested "At all times i m mentally physically safe secure protected and healthy in every way"
They almost same, so with both workings we are protecting ourselves and NOT GETTING RID OF NEGATIVE ENERGIES which are already there,right?

Shouldnt AC be like "In a really positive way,i m getting rid of all negative energies and my aura is free of all negative attatchments"
And aop be like "I m at all times mentally physically and spiritually safe secure protected and healthy in every way"

Also after cleaning my aura i also need to clean chakras separately? Though i do complete chakras meditation everyday.

So it will be like - 1.Clean aura with vibrations OR returning curses
2.Do AOP
3.Cleaning chakras with vibrations.
What i mean is cleaning the aura WILL IT NOT CLEAN MY CHAKRAS AS WELL? or i need another 9-12 of vibration on each chakras with affirmation at end
or i can add about chakras in AC affirmation? like after doing suryae 111 times and affirm "My aura and my chakras are completely free and getting rid of all negative energies in a really positive way for me"

luis wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:42 am

Henu the Great wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:57 pm

luis wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:55 pm

Don't worry about it. I do have an overactive mind like you, void meditation helps a lot with it. Unfortunately, as much as I respect and love what HP Maxine did with the Jos and nobody could do the things she did, the Jos needs to be updated and some things to be explained in a better way like for example that you need to use an affirmation after you have vibrated a mantra/rune or raised your energies in a different way. This may be confusing for new people, luckily we have the forums.

It's already explained in JoS.

1. You raise the energy

2. You program the energy

3. You direct the energy.

From: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfir ... Steps.html

The affirmation is simply foolproof method to direct energy. A strong mind, and a strong will does not need words to direct energy.

Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.

Heres what i do everyday without skipping anything.

1st session :
Void meditation for 5-10 mins
Raise energies using Satanas - 24 times
use aum - 12 times
Do Crown,6th and throat chakra ( from complete chakra meditation)
RTR
AC (suryae 72 times)
AOP (will add vibrations in this week,for now doing it normally as on on beginers meditation)

2nd session :
Hatha yoga
Foundation meditation (breathing in energies from sun)
Heart,solar chakra from complete chakra meditation
Raise energies
Planet mantra for achieving something - 12 times then affirmation 18 times

3rd session:
Kundalini
Sacral and base chakra (from complete chakra meditation)
Runes for the same goal which i mentioned in 2nd session then affirm 18 times
Trance practice
Void for 5 min

4th session:
Raise energies using satanas and vuh vah voh
RTR
AC (suryae 72 times)
AOP

END of the day.

I will add meds such as single serpent raising and raum meditation soon and alternate the days like one day do complete chakra med all of them and next day single serpent and raum and meds such as these.

luis wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:42 am

Henu the Great wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:57 pm

luis wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:55 pm

Don't worry about it. I do have an overactive mind like you, void meditation helps a lot with it. Unfortunately, as much as I respect and love what HP Maxine did with the Jos and nobody could do the things she did, the Jos needs to be updated and some things to be explained in a better way like for example that you need to use an affirmation after you have vibrated a mantra/rune or raised your energies in a different way. This may be confusing for new people, luckily we have the forums.

It's already explained in JoS.

1. You raise the energy

2. You program the energy

3. You direct the energy.

From: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfir ... Steps.html

The affirmation is simply foolproof method to direct energy. A strong mind, and a strong will does not need words to direct energy.

Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.

That's because people are not used to using their brain to condense the information together. They are used to have it on a silver platter. That's not how life or Satanism work. One will get nowhere if they can stop and use their brain to elaborate information and apply it properly, not just absorb which is the stupidity taught in jewducational establishments.

Stormblood wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:16 pm

luis wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:42 am

Henu the Great wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:57 pm

It's already explained in JoS.

1. You raise the energy

2. You program the energy

3. You direct the energy.

From: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfir ... Steps.html

The affirmation is simply foolproof method to direct energy. A strong mind, and a strong will does not need words to direct energy.

Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.

That's because people are not used to using their brain to condense the information together. They are used to have it on a silver platter. That's not how life or Satanism work. One will get nowhere if they can stop and use their brain to elaborate information and apply it properly, not just absorb which is the stupidity taught in jewducational establishments.

But when we are trying to educate as many people as possible in a fast time, it ends up working better when it is simple enough for the least creative people to understand.

Ol argedco luciftias wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:14 pm

Stormblood wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:16 pm

luis wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:42 am

Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.

That's because people are not used to using their brain to condense the information together. They are used to have it on a silver platter. That's not how life or Satanism work. One will get nowhere if they can stop and use their brain to elaborate information and apply it properly, not just absorb which is the stupidity taught in jewducational establishments.

But when we are trying to educate as many people as possible in a fast time, it ends up working better when it is simple enough for the least creative people to understand.

I agree with this. The easier it is the less mistakes they make. There are many young people discovering satanism, I was young when I found it and its normal to make these mistakes when you are young. Better to be clear as possible when you are teaching these powerful things. This is no math, raising energy and then do a wrong affirmation or no affirmation could create many problems.

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:53 am

luis wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:42 am

Henu the Great wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:57 pm

It's already explained in JoS.

1. You raise the energy

2. You program the energy

3. You direct the energy.

From: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfir ... Steps.html

The affirmation is simply foolproof method to direct energy. A strong mind, and a strong will does not need words to direct energy.

Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.

Heres what i do everyday without skipping anything.

1st session :
Void meditation for 5-10 mins
Raise energies using Satanas - 24 times
use aum - 12 times
Do Crown,6th and throat chakra ( from complete chakra meditation)
RTR
AC (suryae 72 times)
AOP (will add vibrations in this week,for now doing it normally as on on beginers meditation)

2nd session :
Hatha yoga
Foundation meditation (breathing in energies from sun)
Heart,solar chakra from complete chakra meditation
Raise energies
Planet mantra for achieving something - 12 times then affirmation 18 times

3rd session:
Kundalini
Sacral and base chakra (from complete chakra meditation)
Runes for the same goal which i mentioned in 2nd session then affirm 18 times
Trance practice
Void for 5 min

4th session:
Raise energies using satanas and vuh vah voh
RTR
AC (suryae 72 times)
AOP

END of the day.

I will add meds such as single serpent raising and raum meditation soon and alternate the days like one day do complete chakra med all of them and next day single serpent and raum and meds such as these.

Make sure to not do too much, if you can't handle it or don't have time. Affirmation are important after you have vibrated a mantra or rune. Good luck with your meditations

luis wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:42 am

Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.

When I do not understand something right away I read it again, and again until I understand it. Sometimes I have to take time off to do something else, and come back later. That's how learning works. Confusion is a block that has to be overcome in order to advance.

Henu the Great wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 8:03 pm

luis wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:42 am

Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.

When I do not understand something right away I read it again, and again until I understand it. Sometimes I have to take time off to do something else, and come back later. That's how learning works. Confusion is a block that has to be overcome in order to advance.

I do the same but young people may not understand this and may not read the whole site for example.

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 10:53 am

luis wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:42 am

Henu the Great wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 11:57 pm

It's already explained in JoS.

1. You raise the energy

2. You program the energy

3. You direct the energy.

From: https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfir ... Steps.html

The affirmation is simply foolproof method to direct energy. A strong mind, and a strong will does not need words to direct energy.

Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.

Heres what i do everyday without skipping anything.

1st session :
Void meditation for 5-10 mins
Raise energies using Satanas - 24 times
use aum - 12 times
Do Crown,6th and throat chakra ( from complete chakra meditation)
RTR
AC (suryae 72 times)
AOP (will add vibrations in this week,for now doing it normally as on on beginers meditation)

2nd session :
Hatha yoga
Foundation meditation (breathing in energies from sun)
Heart,solar chakra from complete chakra meditation
Raise energies
Planet mantra for achieving something - 12 times then affirmation 18 times

3rd session:
Kundalini
Sacral and base chakra (from complete chakra meditation)
Runes for the same goal which i mentioned in 2nd session then affirm 18 times
Trance practice
Void for 5 min

4th session:
Raise energies using satanas and vuh vah voh
RTR
AC (suryae 72 times)
AOP

END of the day.

I will add meds such as single serpent raising and raum meditation soon and alternate the days like one day do complete chakra med all of them and next day single serpent and raum and meds such as these.

Ahh,nvm haha i found my answer under "using planets for chakras" topic while browsing the forums randomly. When you dwell on a question your aura brings answers to you. Has happened to me many times. Anyways thanks a lot for the help brothers.

Ol argedco luciftias wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 5:14 pm

Stormblood wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:16 pm

luis wrote: ↑

Wed Mar 17, 2021 12:42 am

Yes I know it is explained but it may be confusing. In my opinion its better to be clear as possible, so they could add what type of affirmation you could use on the cleaning page. This is just my opinion as I have been confused by it when I was new and I remember reading about some new members getting confused about it.

That's because people are not used to using their brain to condense the information together. They are used to have it on a silver platter. That's not how life or Satanism work. One will get nowhere if they can stop and use their brain to elaborate information and apply it properly, not just absorb which is the stupidity taught in jewducational establishments.

But when we are trying to educate as many people as possible in a fast time, it ends up working better when it is simple enough for the least creative people to understand.

At the expense of their mental growth. You cannot get to any high level with handouts from other people. One actually needs to understand what is going on. Even if someone were to post all the instructions for the Magnum Opus or for raising the kundalini tomorrow, most people who are not at the right level will gain little to nothing from that information, as they will not be able to apply properly due to lack of understanding and experience. And if they tried it they'd just end up opening the door to insanity and a lot of damage.

By giving people fish, you are not helping them. You need to teach them how to fish, if you want to help them. The JoS teaches how to fish. Doing the homework for other people is akin to babysitting. It does not help. If you see, most people are still asking the same thing as day one "What affirmation should i use?", "How many reps should I do?", "What sign should the Moon be in?", and "How do I make a working for this?". The same people over and over across the years still ask the same questions. Giving the answer hurts them in the long run.

Stormblood wrote: ↑

Sat Mar 20, 2021 6:08 am

At the expense of their mental growth. You cannot get to any high level with handouts from other people. One actually needs to understand what is going on. Even if someone were to post all the instructions for the Magnum Opus or for raising the kundalini tomorrow, most people who are not at the right level will gain little to nothing from that information, as they will not be able to apply properly due to lack of understanding and experience. And if they tried it they'd just end up opening the door to insanity and a lot of damage.

By giving people fish, you are not helping them. You need to teach them how to fish, if you want to help them. The JoS teaches how to fish. Doing the homework for other people is akin to babysitting. It does not help. If you see, most people are still asking the same thing as day one "What affirmation should i use?", "How many reps should I do?", "What sign should the Moon be in?", and "How do I make a working for this?". The same people over and over across the years still ask the same questions. Giving the answer hurts them in the long run.

You've been very wise lately Brother. I've been wanting to comment on this since I read it because it relates to me. I completely agree with this. I could of just done some critical thinking instead of making a recent post. My excuse is I didn't want to be like the people who start making up their own wild meditations or adding so many extra steps to the RTRs, for example. I should trust myself more and this post of yours gave me more motivation to do just that.

luis wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:55 pm

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:41 pm

luis wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 1:58 pm

Luis,i created new topic to ask about runes to someone else in forums i think that guy dont speak english so i didnt really understand his reply.though i understood most of it somehow.I will really appreciate ur wisdom on this.

1.While vibrating two runes one to empower the next rune,do i visualize empowering rune first while vibrating it,then next one OR do i visualize both of them together?
2.Do i inhale energy with each inhale before vibrating the rune? (it says in JOS inhale energy then state affirmation then vibrate the runes,while with every working we raise eneriges first then state affirmation.)
3.After i m finished with vibrations and doing affirmations,do i engulf myself in the color corresponding to working and then state affirmation? Like for money engulf myslef in gold white and state affirmation. To attract someone i engulf myself in green and then state affirmation? (i pretty sure thats how it works just confirming,dont want to do something wrong)

Stormblood wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 25, 2021 4:00 pm

At the expense of their mental growth. You cannot get to any high level with handouts from other people. One actually needs to understand what is going on. Even if someone were to post all the instructions for the Magnum Opus or for raising the kundalini tomorrow, most people who are not at the right level will gain little to nothing from that information, as they will not be able to apply properly due to lack of understanding and experience. And if they tried it they'd just end up opening the door to insanity and a lot of damage.

By giving people fish, you are not helping them. You need to teach them how to fish, if you want to help them. The JoS teaches how to fish. Doing the homework for other people is akin to babysitting. It does not help. If you see, most people are still asking the same thing as day one "What affirmation should i use?", "How many reps should I do?", "What sign should the Moon be in?", and "How do I make a working for this?". The same people over and over across the years still ask the same questions. Giving the answer hurts them in the long run.

I completely understand by what you mean. I made my own affirmations and all,i also read about astrology and started on my own. I always search my doubts and try doing things on my own as much as i can,if i m not able to find answers to them after searching 1-2 days only then i post my questions. About affirmations i admit i didnt know anything about numerology so i asked. But yeah i get by what u mean when i browse forums randomly, i see same question asked multiple times in different ways in different topics which could have been easily answered only if those people used search function.
Also,brother can u provide me with topic which teaches about numerology? It will be a great help.

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:50 pm

luis wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:55 pm

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 5:41 pm

Luis,i created new topic to ask about runes to someone else in forums i think that guy dont speak english so i didnt really understand his reply.though i understood most of it somehow.I will really appreciate ur wisdom on this.

1.While vibrating two runes one to empower the next rune,do i visualize empowering rune first while vibrating it,then next one OR do i visualize both of them together?
2.Do i inhale energy with each inhale before vibrating the rune? (it says in JOS inhale energy then state affirmation then vibrate the runes,while with every working we raise eneriges first then state affirmation.)
3.After i m finished with vibrations and doing affirmations,do i engulf myself in the color corresponding to working and then state affirmation? Like for money engulf myslef in gold white and state affirmation. To attract someone i engulf myself in green and then state affirmation? (i pretty sure thats how it works just confirming,dont want to do something wrong)

1. If you are vibrating them togheter back to back like thurisaz algiz one rep and then again thurisaz algiz, then visualize both if you can. If you are vibrating first one rune and then after whatever resp you vibrate the other, just visualize first one rune then after the other. Hope its clear.
2. You can and it will make whatever spell more powerful but its not a must.
3. Again you can and it will make the spell more powerful, but for example if you are in a hurry and for whatever reason you dont know the color for a spell or you forgot to breath in energy before you vibrate each rune or you can't visualize the runes, the spell can still work. What matter is that you focus, vibrate and do your affirmation, this is the most basic thing.

luis wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:54 pm

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:50 pm

luis wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:55 pm

Luis,i created new topic to ask about runes to someone else in forums i think that guy dont speak english so i didnt really understand his reply.though i understood most of it somehow.I will really appreciate ur wisdom on this.

1.While vibrating two runes one to empower the next rune,do i visualize empowering rune first while vibrating it,then next one OR do i visualize both of them together?
2.Do i inhale energy with each inhale before vibrating the rune? (it says in JOS inhale energy then state affirmation then vibrate the runes,while with every working we raise eneriges first then state affirmation.)
3.After i m finished with vibrations and doing affirmations,do i engulf myself in the color corresponding to working and then state affirmation? Like for money engulf myslef in gold white and state affirmation. To attract someone i engulf myself in green and then state affirmation? (i pretty sure thats how it works just confirming,dont want to do something wrong)

1. If you are vibrating them togheter back to back like thurisaz algiz one rep and then again thurisaz algiz, then visualize both if you can. If you are vibrating first one rune and then after whatever resp you vibrate the other, just visualize first one rune then after the other. Hope its clear.
2. You can and it will make whatever spell more powerful but its not a must.
3. Again you can and it will make the spell more powerful, but for example if you are in a hurry and for whatever reason you dont know the color for a spell or you forgot to breath in energy before you vibrate each rune or you can't visualize the runes, the spell can still work. What matter is that you focus, vibrate and do your affirmation, this is the most basic thing.

On time, i m about to start runes after 2 hours. Thanks a lot brother now all my doubts regarding it are clear now i can get creative with meditations and energies. I really appreciate ur help it meant a lot to me.

luis wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:54 pm

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:50 pm

luis wrote: ↑

Tue Mar 16, 2021 10:55 pm

Luis,i created new topic to ask about runes to someone else in forums i think that guy dont speak english so i didnt really understand his reply.though i understood most of it somehow.I will really appreciate ur wisdom on this.

1.While vibrating two runes one to empower the next rune,do i visualize empowering rune first while vibrating it,then next one OR do i visualize both of them together?
2.Do i inhale energy with each inhale before vibrating the rune? (it says in JOS inhale energy then state affirmation then vibrate the runes,while with every working we raise eneriges first then state affirmation.)
3.After i m finished with vibrations and doing affirmations,do i engulf myself in the color corresponding to working and then state affirmation? Like for money engulf myslef in gold white and state affirmation. To attract someone i engulf myself in green and then state affirmation? (i pretty sure thats how it works just confirming,dont want to do something wrong)

1. If you are vibrating them togheter back to back like thurisaz algiz one rep and then again thurisaz algiz, then visualize both if you can. If you are vibrating first one rune and then after whatever resp you vibrate the other, just visualize first one rune then after the other. Hope its clear.
2. You can and it will make whatever spell more powerful but its not a must.
3. Again you can and it will make the spell more powerful, but for example if you are in a hurry and for whatever reason you dont know the color for a spell or you forgot to breath in energy before you vibrate each rune or you can't visualize the runes, the spell can still work. What matter is that you focus, vibrate and do your affirmation, this is the most basic thing.

Just thanks for being so help and being so nice to me and taking out ur time to explain things to me. I dont know how to say it but you just dont know how much you have helped me with all of your answers even some of the questions which popped in my mind were already asked by you in forums. <3

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Fri Mar 26, 2021 12:28 pm

luis wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:54 pm

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 25, 2021 1:50 pm

Luis,i created new topic to ask about runes to someone else in forums i think that guy dont speak english so i didnt really understand his reply.though i understood most of it somehow.I will really appreciate ur wisdom on this.

1.While vibrating two runes one to empower the next rune,do i visualize empowering rune first while vibrating it,then next one OR do i visualize both of them together?
2.Do i inhale energy with each inhale before vibrating the rune? (it says in JOS inhale energy then state affirmation then vibrate the runes,while with every working we raise eneriges first then state affirmation.)
3.After i m finished with vibrations and doing affirmations,do i engulf myself in the color corresponding to working and then state affirmation? Like for money engulf myslef in gold white and state affirmation. To attract someone i engulf myself in green and then state affirmation? (i pretty sure thats how it works just confirming,dont want to do something wrong)

1. If you are vibrating them togheter back to back like thurisaz algiz one rep and then again thurisaz algiz, then visualize both if you can. If you are vibrating first one rune and then after whatever resp you vibrate the other, just visualize first one rune then after the other. Hope its clear.
2. You can and it will make whatever spell more powerful but its not a must.
3. Again you can and it will make the spell more powerful, but for example if you are in a hurry and for whatever reason you dont know the color for a spell or you forgot to breath in energy before you vibrate each rune or you can't visualize the runes, the spell can still work. What matter is that you focus, vibrate and do your affirmation, this is the most basic thing.

Just thanks for being so help and being so nice to me and taking out ur time to explain things to me. I dont know how to say it but you just dont know how much you have helped me with all of your answers even some of the questions which popped in my mind were already asked by you in forums. <3

I've been in your position, so I kinda knew your questions . Good luck with your spells!

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 25, 2021 2:16 pm

Also,brother can u provide me with topic which teaches about numerology? It will be a great help.

There is none. There are some post that mainly relate to how the enemy uses Saturnian energies with specific numbers such as 6 and 9 but that does not mean those numbers are of Saturn. There is a good post that explains about 5 and 6, and one reply that only explains one thing about 7.

Wait for HP Hooded Cobra's sermon on numerology that should arrive sooner or later. Avoid self-entitled numerology experts on here that have read some jewish books and think that what's written in there is law, and mix it strangely with older sermons where jewish applications are explained.

If you have patience, after HP Hooded Cobra reopens orders, you could order his numerology reading, that gives insight on how numbers relate to your personality and life path, etc

You could also start analysing information about houses, zodiac signs, runes and certain books such as the Greek Kabalah, Western Mysteries and others. I'm sure HP Hooded Cobra would be able to provide a list of good reads in regards, if asked.

luis wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:54 pm

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Its been long,so how have u been ? Pretty sure u are doing good brother.

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:11 am

luis wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:54 pm

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Its been long,so how have u been ? Pretty sure u are doing good brother.
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Pretty good Hope the spells you are doing are going well

luis wrote: ↑

Sun Apr 18, 2021 10:34 pm

I got_abs wrote: ↑

Sat Apr 17, 2021 9:11 am

luis wrote: ↑

Thu Mar 25, 2021 11:54 pm

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Its been long,so how have u been ? Pretty sure u are doing good brother.

Pretty good Hope the spells you are doing are going well
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Yeah they are going good,all thanks to you.My mind wanders sometimes in middle of working but i bring it back,working on it too by increasing void. My working is manifesting and most of the credit goes to u.
Also i m really happy. When i started meditating seriously in January i wasnt able to handle energies,even 15 breaths of inhaling energy from sun was toooo much for me i used to physically feel uncomfortable.
With consistent meditations,my limit has increased to 160 vibrations of mantras in one sitting. Quite a bit of progress i made.
Man,i had to take a little break from yoga cuz i hit my back and it pained a lot for sometime. I skipped yoga for 7 days and then started again in void accidently. My bad i didnt check. How long i have to wait now to restart it again?