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Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:31 pm**

jrvan wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:34 pm

Meteor wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 3:34 pm

jrvan wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:12 am
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I agree with what you're saying, but being called a cuck out of nowhere for no good reason was shocking. I didn't expect that kind of thing from one of my SS family.

Well, you have a point. I stated my own opinions on love a while ago in a different thread, and while most just debated it decently, there was this one guy (a teenager, I think?) who insulted my character for it in a really disgusting way.

For a while I couldn't bring myself to respect that person at all anymore, but I'm starting to understand that he also went (and still is going) through a lot, which is what caused him to lash out like that.

It was certainly shocking and unpleasant, though, and it's part of the reason why I'm reluctant to open up about anything personal anymore on these forums and just focus on our common goals instead. That said, I'm starting to wonder if maybe I'm a bit too bitter about it and if I should trust people a bit more again. Although my opinion was somewhat unpopular, there was only one guy who went too far with his response, after all.

tabby wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:53 pm
Thank you for all your wonderful responses, NinRick, Topoftheabyss, StormBlood, Meteor, question,
(ahh, I feel like I’m forgetting someone...).

I don’t have much else to say for now, but I’m glad to meet all of you!

I'm glad you liked my response, I was starting to worry if what I wrote was maybe a bit pessimistic. It seems I worried for nothing, though.

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:32 pm**

jrvan wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:12 am
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SouthernWhiteGentile wrote:I never called you a Jew so I’m not sure what you’re talking about. I make sure not to call people infiltrators or Jews just because I disagree with them, this is a smearing mentality that I disagree with so I don’t engage in it.

I didn't say you called me a jew. That's your interpretation of what I said.
That's positive that you don't do that. Shutting someone down in a conversation by slinging insults doesn't appear to be above your principles, however.

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote:I am hospitable and will treat you as a brother BUT I will give tough love. Think about your own physical family. There is probably someone you don’t like, not because you hate them, but they can be better.

Tough love isn't randomly calling your family members cucks. That's called being toxic, not loving.

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote:SO I already apologized and tried to make things right but you think that is “disingenuous”, that’s your loss. I don’t even know how this happened. I made a stupid half serious reply to someone, which is what I do; and then you went off about it. Guess I can’t joke with JRVAN.

Now you're trying to backtrack to claim it was a joke? That's cowardly. My opinion of you continues to worsen.

Posted: **Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 pm**

NinRick wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:31 pm
Yeah, I would punch him for that in real life

No need to be a disposable hero and threaten me Mr. big man.

Stormblood wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:27 am
He certainly has some xtard bias such as misogyny, homophobia and hypermasculinity, to name a few. However, I think this will be cleared out as he advances. I do believe he's fairly young, either a minor or, at least, not in his 20s yet. People of his generation are on average quite more susceptible to enemy brainwashing, due to being more shallow and generally immature on average. That is my opinion.

I don’t see how I can be “homophobic” when I live in a house, if you mean homo as in homosexuals than that isn’t true either as I have never made anti gay comments, but still you act like a journalist TV script reader smearing me.

“Oy vey swg is a racist bigot misogynist homophobe white supremacist we must gulag him immediately”

It only shows your true colours. And they are not vibrant.

My only true color is white and I will do anything to uphold and uplift that color by smashing negative ideas and ways of living.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2021 12:31 am**

What's really interesting about our relationship is that she has a Cancer stellium, and I have my Moon in Pisces. We really help each other a lot in that. She also has like half her chart in air, half in water, and mine's half earth/half water. So astrologically speaking, I suppose it's true that we may be a bit overemotional. We also have 3 of the same outer planets retrograde. We're usually on the same page with each other, and I see how that could make us seem like the same person. Our similarities are freaky to us sometimes too.

I won't reply to this thread anymore after this. Going back and forth with SWG is an exercise in futility because he will just keep twisting what we say and doubling down. I also don't feel comfortable with how much this topic has deviated from the OP, and shifted to being about us.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:37 am**

question wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:54 pm

Jack wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:32 pm

Here are some values that I found out to be my personal composition of love -

She needs to have a connection with me and must be intelligent like me so that I can share with her the complexity of the world and not just have her sit there and nod. I would want an above average intelligence, and rational person. I want her to 'get' me.

I need to feel like I can trust her so that I won't worry about other men. Because if I'm ever cheated upon I'm going to severely punish them in a way that would cause intense suffering for life.

She shouldn't be a feminist/marxist/anti Aryan in any way.

She should have my matching libido and Sexually compatible with me.

She shouldn't be a drama queen which I hate above all.
If all the ones are present i would probably like her. And if I feel that she has the capacity to commit to me in the same capacity that I can , then I would start loving her. And when I commit to something, I commit to it fanatically. So we're going to be together for life and I'll stick with her through thick and thin all the way.
Let's say that this girl progressively comes to realize that you two may not be the right match, but every time she tries to bring up the issue you just brush it away, because by then you have committed "fanatically" to her and so if she has such thoughts she is wrong and you have to get these wrong thoughts out of her. Do you see how that might put the two of you on a dangerous slope? Especially considering your comment that you would cause her intense suffering for life if she ever cheated on you, and presumably to the other man as well who may not even know about you. That fanaticism might end up destroying 3 lives.

The girl should understand how important commitment is to you, but you shouldn't let that trump everything else. It is important to remain open to what's going on around you, to how the other person feels, and not decide for them how they should feel, otherwise she might become your unwilling slave afraid to leave for fear of intense torture.

What you describe seems to stem from the fear of abandonment, and I think you would get more fruitful and lasting results by working on overcoming that fear, rather than by subjecting your future partner to its spell. Otherwise you might end up in the mindset that she is your property, that you can do whatever you please with her, including ignoring how she feels. Don't forget to care about her and to listen.

If you tell her how important loyalty is to you and she still cheats on you then she wasn't the right one, no need for the "cause intense suffering for life" part. But if you are in a healthy relationship this shouldn't happen. And if she tried to explain to you for a while how she feels but you wouldn't listen, then you are partly responsible too.

(first post here hello everyone, I made a thread but it hasn't been approved yet)

By committing to life, I mean marriage. And if she won't agree to the terms I state, I'll simply not marry her. I'll have our astrological compatibility checked ,and it's highly unlikely that a strong astrologically compatible couple will break apart based on whimsical feelings.

Most people are confused and uncertain about everything in life. And they listen to what i have to say because I give them purpose and hope. If I ever start contemplating of dedicating my life to one woman, I'll make sure to turn her into the ideological soldier she's meant to be. Once she becomes like me, she won't ever be very focused or driven by feelings but by her commitment to me and to our religion. I'm not just a counterpart, I'm a teacher and leader authority figure in the same way. The Sanskrit word for teacher is "Swami" and it can be alternatively used in many regional languages to mean "Husband." I won't marry or commit to anyone who is having strong unwavering opinions contrary to me because that's idiotic to do.

Most women or men in general do not have strong opinions about anything in life. So I don't think itll be a very hard job to find someone compatible without strong opinions and condition her into getting my opinions and hold on to them unconditionally. And one of those conditioning processes would be to Trump commitment to everything else.

This is a boomeresque thing where they put importance to their transient feelings instead of their behavior and ideology. They doomed this world by their whimsical feelings.

And if it's someone who is just in a relationship with me and I haven't committed to her, but she betrays me knowing about my conditions which is improbable , she will get what she deserves. Actions have consequences and punishment must be handed down. The guy will suffer as well as the girl. If she wanted to opt out ,she could just say so. But an implicit betrayal is an attack on me which I have to retaliate. And there's absolutely no way that anyone I've vetted and moulded into an ideological soldier of mine will ever betray me and so its just can't happen in a marriage type situation.

If all of this is sounding strange, then its because I don't feel the same love that you do and so your version of love doesn't exist for me. I feel love in the Dominance and Submission way and so I can only feel it in this way. I can't forgive or forget and I can't love unconditionally another person.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:22 am**

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 6:40 pm

TopoftheAbyss wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:55 am
SWG is a subhuman, he has proven to care only about himself and has no empathy. The only difference between him and a jew is his allegiance. If we were 20 years ago he would probably still be praying to Jesus.
I don’t know what that means but OK dood. Are you still upset about me telling you that eating a thanksgiving turkey is NOT sacrifice? Facts don’t care about your dumb ideas.

jrvan wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:12 am
Exactly. If human experience was so basic and one-dimensional then I don't know if I'd be able to handle it. We're not all grey carbon copy hive-minded 4channers like some are used to. We call out the jew when we need to, but beyond that we are all real people. The guy has a lot to learn...
I never called you a Jew so I’m not sure what you’re talking about. I make sure not to call people infiltrators or Jews just because I disagree with them, this is a smearing mentality that I disagree with so I don’t engage in it.

How about this: I thought southerners were all supposed to have good manners or something. Y u no conform, SouthernWhiteGentile? Y u different?
I am hospitable and will treat you as a brother BUT I will give tough love. Think about your own physical family. There is probably someone you don’t like, not because you hate them, but they can be better.

I wish he'd realize that the reason his words hurt me so much is because we're all blood bonded. If he was some stranger I wouldn't give a crap what he said about me. My poor wife was crying her eyes out because it took a lot of bravery on her part to introduce herself, and I had told her we're all blood family. It's just really disheartening, but the replies from others who are more mature has really helped. We're glad to be here.
SO I already apologized and tried to make things right but you think that is “disingenuous”, that’s your loss. I don’t even know how this happened. I made a stupid half serious reply to someone, which is what I do; and then you went off about it. Guess I can’t joke with JRVAN.

It literally is a sacrifice of xian origin, just because you enjoy eating it doesn't mean it isn't a sacrifice. And just because you enjoy eating meat doesn't make animal suffering okay. Like I said, there is little difference between you and a jew. In a sane society you'll be put in a concentration camp.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:57 am**

jrvan wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:12 am
I didn't say you called me a jew. That's your interpretation of what I said.
That's positive that you don't do that. Shutting someone down in a conversation by slinging insults doesn't appear to be above your principles, however.

I’m always open for the conversation. Shutting someone down calling them Jewish just shows you are afraid of them and their ideas. There’s no reason be afraid of me, I don’t bite.

Now you're trying to backtrack to claim it was a joke? That's cowardly. My opinion of you continues to worsen.

There’s no backtracking here. I thought you knew me so well, than you should know I like making shithead remarks like the one that started this , everyone else realizes this and sees it as the (sometimes crude and distasteful) humor that it is. But instead you chose to spazz out and act like some abused woman. What do you have to gain from this? Trying to impress your wife by arguing with someone on the internet? That’s absurd. I have no one here to look good for, I say what I say because I want to say it. You already know I’m not going to back down. Just stop now and look like a loser. Do you know how many people in life and on this forum have tried to tear me down and destroy my reputation? You are not the first and certainly won’t be the last.

TopoftheAbyss wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:22 am
It literally is a sacrifice of xian origin, just because you enjoy eating it doesn't mean it isn't a sacrifice. And just because you enjoy eating meat doesn't make animal suffering okay. Like I said, there is little difference between you and a jew. In a sane society you'll be put in a concentration camp.

It is not sacrifice. Get over it. You really want to imprison me for eating a thanksgiving turkey? What a joke. Tell JRVAN that and watch how he runs screaming and crying to his mother that someone was mean to him. I will just tune you out like the barking dog that you are. Both of you belong in the swamp. Now run off and play your race car game little boy. Caillou.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2021 8:18 am**

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 pm

NinRick wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 12:31 pm
Yeah, I would punch him for that in real life
No need to be a disposable hero and threaten me Mr. big man.

My only true color is white and I will do anything to uphold and uplift that color by smashing negative ideas and ways of living.

Dude I would smash your face when you would say it to me in real life. Just one punch.

Let me tell you one thing. If you insult someone who I really love, I will get very furious. If you insult me, I don’t care as much. So it is way worse if you insult someone who I love. This is the case for many people as well. You don’t have this much empathy, and you do not care much about other people, so you need to understand where boundaries are. Jrvan will never „like“ or „love“ you now.

Posted: **Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:49 pm**

Stormblood wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 20, 2021 7:17 am

FancyMancy wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 17, 2021 12:18 am

NinRick wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:12 am

Nah I meant it differently

It all works and you are free to use your spiritual knowledge.

But if you really want to go all out, you do Aura magick, sex magick and program her while she sleeps.

After a strong meditation session, at night while your girl is sleeping, you strip naked, go on your bed and first start to imagine her. Then you pull her out of her body and „have sex“ with her light body. This is what I was referring to when I mentioned „spiritual rapist“

I did it on a girl for a time and she also dreamed every night about having sex and she said that she freaking enjoyed it

But basically this is rape, isn’t it?
Perhaps it is. If she enjoyed it, maybe it still is, because it was without her knowledge and permission, but then man-mad-- jew-made "law" doesn't have a "law" against it (as far as I know); but then Natural Law might say otherwise. When we use any Magick to get someone to do something for us, is that a form of (non-sexual) rape? Hmmm... Are we "right" or "wrong" to force the jew to fail so that we can be free? Are we "right" or "wrong" to influence the bookie to give us 100:1 winnings? Are we "right" or "wrong" to have Spiritual sex with someone's Light Body? Should we ask the jew's permission; should we ask the bookie's permission; should we ask the sex-"partner"'s permission first?
Rape is rape. There shouldn't even be a law. It should be common sense not rape other people, physically or otherwise. Maxine talked a few times about consent. It's even on the main website. Even with your spouse, you need to have consent first. If they are not feeling it at a certain moment for whatever reason and you force yourself upon them, even after they tell you to stop, that is rape and it's not to be tolerated. Respect other people's boundaries. If someone forced themselves upon me, even if they were my husband, they'd get seriously hurt physically and I may consider a divorce/dissolution. This is self-defence, not domestic violence.

so does that mean using a love spell or sex magick on someone you like but doesn't like you is rape or spiritual rape if thats the case thats fucked up

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2021 1:44 am**

Jack wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 3:37 am

question wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 2:54 pm

Jack wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 20, 2021 3:32 pm

Here are some values that I found out to be my personal composition of love -

She needs to have a connection with me and must be intelligent like me so that I can share with her the complexity of the world and not just have her sit there and nod. I would want an above average intelligence, and rational person. I want her to 'get' me.

I need to feel like I can trust her so that I won't worry about other men. Because if I'm ever cheated upon I'm going to severely punish them in a way that would cause intense suffering for life.

She shouldn't be a feminist/marxist/anti Aryan in any way.

She should have my matching libido and Sexually compatible with me.

She shouldn't be a drama queen which I hate above all.
If all the ones are present i would probably like her. And if I feel that she has the capacity to commit to me in the same capacity that I can , then I would start loving her. And when I commit to something, I commit to it fanatically. So we're going to be together for life and I'll stick with her through thick and thin all the way.
Let's say that this girl progressively comes to realize that you two may not be the right match, but every time she tries to bring up the issue you just brush it away, because by then you have committed "fanatically" to her and so if she has such thoughts she is wrong and you have to get these wrong thoughts out of her. Do you see how that might put the two of you on a dangerous slope? Especially considering your comment that you would cause her intense suffering for life if she ever cheated on you, and presumably to the other man as well who may not even know about you. That fanaticism might end up destroying 3 lives.

The girl should understand how important commitment is to you, but you shouldn't let that trump everything else. It is important to remain open to what's going on around you, to how the other person feels, and not decide for them how they should feel, otherwise she might become your unwilling slave afraid to leave for fear of intense torture.

What you describe seems to stem from the fear of abandonment, and I think you would get more fruitful and lasting results by working on overcoming that fear, rather than by subjecting your future partner to its spell. Otherwise you might end up in the mindset that she is your property, that you can do whatever you please with her, including ignoring how she feels. Don't forget to care about her and to listen.

If you tell her how important loyalty is to you and she still cheats on you then she wasn't the right one, no need for the "cause intense suffering for life" part. But if you are in a healthy relationship this shouldn't happen. And if she tried to explain to you for a while how she feels but you wouldn't listen, then you are partly responsible too.

(first post here hello everyone, I made a thread but it hasn't been approved yet)
By committing to life, I mean marriage. And if she won't agree to the terms I state, I'll simply not marry her. I'll have our astrological compatibility checked ,and it's highly unlikely that a strong astrologically compatible couple will break apart based on whimsical feelings.

Most people are confused and uncertain about everything in life. And they listen to what i have to say because I give them purpose and hope. If I ever start contemplating of dedicating my life to one woman, I'll make sure to turn her into the ideological soldier she's meant to be. Once she becomes like me, she won't ever be very focused or driven by feelings but by her commitment to me and to our religion. I'm not just a counterpart, I'm a teacher and leader authority figure in the same way. The Sanskrit word for teacher is "Swami" and it can be alternatively used in many regional languages to mean "Husband." I won't marry or commit to anyone who is having strong unwavering opinions contrary to me because that's idiotic to do.

Most women or men in general do not have strong opinions about anything in life. So I don't think itll be a very hard job to find someone compatible without strong opinions and condition her into getting my opinions and hold on to them unconditionally. And one of those conditioning processes would be to Trump commitment to everything else.

This is a boomeresque thing where they put importance to their transient feelings instead of their behavior and ideology. They doomed this world by their whimsical feelings.

And if it's someone who is just in a relationship with me and I haven't committed to her, but she betrays me knowing about my conditions which is improbable , she will get what she deserves. Actions have consequences and punishment must be handed down. The guy will suffer as well as the girl. If she wanted to opt out ,she could just say so. But an implicit betrayal is an attack on me which I have to retaliate. And there's absolutely no way that anyone I've vetted and moulded into an ideological soldier of mine will ever betray me and so its just can't happen in a marriage type situation.

If all of this is sounding strange, then its because I don't feel the same love that you do and so your version of love doesn't exist for me. I feel love in the Dominance and Submission way and so I can only feel it in this way. I can't forgive or forget and I can't love unconditionally another person.

its quite funny, I think exactly like you do bro, lol, it’s like you read my mind

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:52 am**

people here should stop acting so gay n shit with that “spiritual rape” thing

I’m willing to bet they have never done a lust spell before, neither has anyone done a spell on them

the “victim” doesn’t even realize it’s someone else’s thoughts/energy unless he/she knows about magick and can differentiate between internal vs external thoughts and influences, which is quite the thing and almost no normie can do that, not even here, as you can see people having problems when trying to distinguish between enemy attacks (external influences) and ones own thoughts - (I also go through these things so no hating on anyone here)

so you guys talking about “rape” and “consent” is pointless, it doesn’t work that way and people ain’t such manipulable dolls that will go running to you because of a spell/working, that’s not how this works

The OP wants extreme lust in 20 days, that’s totally out of reach if he’s just a beginner with no previous experience, it might not even be purposeful to just cause lust, I would rather find a way to meet the girl instead and go on from there but that’s just me

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:58 am**

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 pm

Stormblood wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:27 am
He certainly has some xtard bias such as misogyny, homophobia and hypermasculinity, to name a few. However, I think this will be cleared out as he advances. I do believe he's fairly young, either a minor or, at least, not in his 20s yet. People of his generation are on average quite more susceptible to enemy brainwashing, due to being more shallow and generally immature on average. That is my opinion.
I don’t see how I can be “homophobic” when I live in a house, if you mean homo as in homosexuals than that isn’t true either as I have never made anti gay comments, but still you act like a journalist TV script reader smearing me.

Oh, so you know how to make a joke.

Crystallized Mushroom wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:49 pm
so does that mean using a love spell or sex magick on someone you like but doesn't like you is rape or spiritual rape if thats the case thats fucked up

Making a love or sex magick is not the same as spiritually raping someone. Love magick is about finding the right partner, which does not involve directing your sexual energy at anyone specifically. Sex magick to attract a hook-up is just masturbating and directing the energy for influencing that person to have a hook-up with you, not to actually astral project and have astral sex with that person. Other forms of sex magick do not involve attracting a partner at all but just directing sexual energy toward a specific goal. Sex magick can also be performed after actually having sex with a CONSENSUAL partner, and directing your orgasmic energies toward your specific.

V12-POWER wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:52 am
people here should stop acting so gay n shit with that “spiritual rape” thing

You should grow up. Start by not using the world "gay" as if it's derogatory term, when in fact it means "happy, joyous, etc" and more recently "homosexual", none of which are derogatory in nature. Your use of language is very far from efficient and you also misunderstand the context of "spiritual rape", whose difference with love and sex magick I just highlighted.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:00 am**

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:57 am

jrvan wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:12 am
I didn't say you called me a jew. That's your interpretation of what I said.
That's positive that you don't do that. Shutting someone down in a conversation by slinging insults doesn't appear to be above your principles, however.
I’m always open for the conversation. Shutting someone down calling them Jewish just shows you are afraid of them and their ideas. There’s no reason be afraid of me, I don’t bite.

Now you're trying to backtrack to claim it was a joke? That's cowardly. My opinion of you continues to worsen.
There’s no backtracking here. I thought you knew me so well, than you should know I like making shithead remarks like the one that started this , everyone else realizes this and sees it as the (sometimes crude and distasteful) humor that it is. But instead you chose to spazz out and act like some abused woman. What do you have to gain from this? Trying to impress your wife by arguing with someone on the internet? That’s absurd. I have no one here to look good for, I say what I say because I want to say it. You already know I’m not going to back down. Just stop now and look like a loser. Do you know how many people in life and on this forum have tried to tear me down and destroy my reputation? You are not the first and certainly won’t be the last.

TopoftheAbyss wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:22 am
It literally is a sacrifice of xian origin, just because you enjoy eating it doesn't mean it isn't a sacrifice. And just because you enjoy eating meat doesn't make animal suffering okay. Like I said, there is little difference between you and a jew. In a sane society you'll be put in a concentration camp.
It is not sacrifice. Get over it. You really want to imprison me for eating a thanksgiving turkey? What a joke. Tell JRVAN that and watch how he runs screaming and crying to his mother that someone was mean to him. I will just tune you out like the barking dog that you are. Both of you belong in the swamp. Now run off and play your race car game little boy. Caillou.

Drop it already and get off our backs, Southern.

The only one “destroying” your beloved “reputation” is yourself.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:50 am**

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:57 am

jrvan wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:12 am
I didn't say you called me a jew. That's your interpretation of what I said.
That's positive that you don't do that. Shutting someone down in a conversation by slinging insults doesn't appear to be above your principles, however.
I’m always open for the conversation. Shutting someone down calling them Jewish just shows you are afraid of them and their ideas. There’s no reason be afraid of me, I don’t bite.

Now you're trying to backtrack to claim it was a joke? That's cowardly. My opinion of you continues to worsen.
There’s no backtracking here. I thought you knew me so well, than you should know I like making shithead remarks like the one that started this , everyone else realizes this and sees it as the (sometimes crude and distasteful) humor that it is. But instead you chose to spazz out and act like some abused woman. What do you have to gain from this? Trying to impress your wife by arguing with someone on the internet? That’s absurd. I have no one here to look good for, I say what I say because I want to say it. You already know I’m not going to back down. Just stop now and look like a loser. Do you know how many people in life and on this forum have tried to tear me down and destroy my reputation? You are not the first and certainly won’t be the last.

TopoftheAbyss wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:22 am
It literally is a sacrifice of xian origin, just because you enjoy eating it doesn't mean it isn't a sacrifice. And just because you enjoy eating meat doesn't make animal suffering okay. Like I said, there is little difference between you and a jew. In a sane society you'll be put in a concentration camp.
It is not sacrifice. Get over it. You really want to imprison me for eating a thanksgiving turkey? What a joke. Tell JRVAN that and watch how he runs screaming and crying to his mother that someone was mean to him. I will just tune you out like the barking dog that you are. Both of you belong in the swamp. Now run off and play your race car game little boy. Caillou.

Even Jews are more human than you. You always ignored my argument and kept repeating the same debunked lie again and again, because like a jew "it is real in your mind". But I wasn't even talking about that shitty xian holiday, I was talking about what you did on the Black Sun forum. While talking about Aryan excellence and most of all empathy, you compared animal torture to "not feeding an exotic bird". You bring shame to our race, Jews unironically have more empathy than you.
You are a real subhuman, you live in denial and care about nothing except yourself. You care about our race but with people like you in a leading role we would become like Jews, we would care only about us and jewsus. The planet would be a communist shithole.
Now go off and repeat the same jewish lies and empty threats like the little kike that you are.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:15 pm**

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:57 am
Both of you belong in the swamp.

I was wondering, what do you mean when you say people belong in a swamp? Is it some kind of metaphor, or literal? Do they need to be submerged or can they just hang out around it? Are you talking about a specific swamp or would any swamp do?
If you said jews belonged in a swamp I would agree, but considering they're Satanists who could be spending their time doing something productive instead (such as RTRs), it seems like it would be a waste of time.

Do you think anyone who disagrees with you in some way should be in a swamp, or just these two? Would being in a swamp help them see things the way you do, or are you just tired of seeing their replies and do you want them gone? What if they still have an internet connection on their phone at the swamp, wouldn't they still be able to reply to you anyway?

Is it an idiosyncratic proverb you came up with that has some kind of hidden meaning that I'm unaware of? Or was it perhaps meant to imply that they don't have anything better to do with their time than hanging out at a swamp? But if that's what you meant, isn't that simply false? For example, if instead of going to a swamp they did an extra RTR or other group ritual, that would benefit you as well.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2021 5:50 pm**

NinRick wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:20 pm

Fuchs wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 15, 2021 7:19 pm
...
I also want to add here, that many diffent people are attracted to many different types.

For example, whenever my friends tell me to look at a girl, who they are attracted to, I am not attracted at all to her.

It is like yes, she looks "good" objectively speaking, but still I do not feel any attraction towards her.

And the other way around, when I am attracted to a girl, most of the times my friends are not, they reactlike : "Eww are you serious? you got a strange taste in women dude".

And speaking about women, many different women are not attracted at all to me and others are. It does not matter if they are objectively beatiful or rather "normal". Attraction works differently, most of it has also to do with astrology (because attraction is probably something on the energetic level?)

My point here is, there are different tastes in all different people. If you are objectively "hot" and have a nice body etc. of course this increases your chances, but not EVERY GIRL will fall for you. On the other hand if you are "normal" there are also MANY people who are attracted to you.

I mean, I think that most Women/girls are kind of cute/beautiful, but I am not attracted to many of them. If you understand what I am trying to tell you?

I mean there are only very few girls I think are "ugly",1% maybe. But of course the thing that is important is attraction, and not whether or not other people think you are hot or not lol.

Oh and magick does work 100% and it is very effective.

Some girls are maybe strong xtians or marxist so love spell on them are not good idea anyway and it does not work.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:02 pm**

Fuchs wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:57 pm

What ever influences/lead to a girl loving you is fine and not rape.

Does somebody really think that JoS ministry is so evil that they put up raping instructions in their page XD

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:31 pm**

Fuchs wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 17, 2021 8:57 pm

I don´t think a little sex magic will get a guy like this a girl:

Most sexiest man in Iisrael

Most sexiest woman in Iisrael

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:55 pm**

TopoftheAbyss wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:50 am

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:57 am

jrvan wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 8:12 am
I didn't say you called me a jew. That's your interpretation of what I said.
That's positive that you don't do that. Shutting someone down in a conversation by slinging insults doesn't appear to be above your principles, however.
I’m always open for the conversation. Shutting someone down calling them Jewish just shows you are afraid of them and their ideas. There’s no reason be afraid of me, I don’t bite.

Now you're trying to backtrack to claim it was a joke? That's cowardly. My opinion of you continues to worsen.
There’s no backtracking here. I thought you knew me so well, than you should know I like making shithead remarks like the one that started this , everyone else realizes this and sees it as the (sometimes crude and distasteful) humor that it is. But instead you chose to spazz out and act like some abused woman. What do you have to gain from this? Trying to impress your wife by arguing with someone on the internet? That’s absurd. I have no one here to look good for, I say what I say because I want to say it. You already know I’m not going to back down. Just stop now and look like a loser. Do you know how many people in life and on this forum have tried to tear me down and destroy my reputation? You are not the first and certainly won’t be the last.

TopoftheAbyss wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:22 am
It literally is a sacrifice of xian origin, just because you enjoy eating it doesn't mean it isn't a sacrifice. And just because you enjoy eating meat doesn't make animal suffering okay. Like I said, there is little difference between you and a jew. In a sane society you'll be put in a concentration camp.
It is not sacrifice. Get over it. You really want to imprison me for eating a thanksgiving turkey? What a joke. Tell JRVAN that and watch how he runs screaming and crying to his mother that someone was mean to him. I will just tune you out like the barking dog that you are. Both of you belong in the swamp. Now run off and play your race car game little boy. Caillou.
Even Jews are more human than you. You always ignored my argument and kept repeating the same debunked lie again and again, because like a jew "it is real in your mind". But I wasn't even talking about that shitty xian holiday, I was talking about what you did on the Black Sun forum. While talking about Aryan excellence and most of all empathy, you compared animal torture to "not feeding an exotic bird". You bring shame to our race, Jews unironically have more empathy than you.
You are a real subhuman, you live in denial and care about nothing except yourself. You care about our race but with people like you in a leading role we would become like Jews, we would care only about us and jewsus. The planet would be a communist shithole.
Now go off and repeat the same jewish lies and empty threats like the little kike that you are.

We all Spiritual Satanists fighr for one thing, we are like on army. Do not make conflict with other Spiritual Satanists. Do not attack other members. If somebody attack you just ignore it. Tolerate other Spiritual Satanists opinions.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:59 pm**

TopoftheAbyss wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:50 am

Like everything else you never had an argument but instead your own dumb ideas. No one in their right mind thinks that thanksgiving is about sacrifice, but you have the mind of a little boy so I understand.

And this is the last bone I am throwing you dog, it is aimed towards the swamp. Go jump in and swim around with your gang of cretins.

Meteor wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:15 pm
I was wondering, what do you mean when you say people belong in a swamp? Is it some kind of metaphor, or literal? Do they need to be submerged or can they just hang out around it? Are you talking about a specific swamp or would any swamp do?

I cannot effectively explain what the swamp is to you. It is something that is understood. You know who is swamp creature and who isn’t. It’s a figurative thing but some people should seriously go for a swim, just hope there aren’t any alligators...

tabby wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:00 am
Drop it already and get off our backs, Southern.

The only one “destroying” your beloved “reputation” is yourself.

I’m not. But there is nothing left for either of us to say, so I suppose it is done.

Posted: **Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:16 pm**

Stormblood wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:58 am

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 pm

Stormblood wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 9:27 am
He certainly has some xtard bias such as misogyny, homophobia and hypermasculinity, to name a few. However, I think this will be cleared out as he advances. I do believe he's fairly young, either a minor or, at least, not in his 20s yet. People of his generation are on average quite more susceptible to enemy brainwashing, due to being more shallow and generally immature on average. That is my opinion.
I don’t see how I can be “homophobic” when I live in a house, if you mean homo as in homosexuals than that isn’t true either as I have never made anti gay comments, but still you act like a journalist TV script reader smearing me.
Oh, so you know how to make a joke.

Crystallized Mushroom wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:49 pm
so does that mean using a love spell or sex magick on someone you like but doesn't like you is rape or spiritual rape if thats the case thats fucked up
Making a love or sex magick is not the same as spiritually raping someone. Love magick is about finding the right partner, which does not involve directing your sexual energy at anyone specifically. Sex magick to attract a hook-up is just masturbating and directing the energy for influencing that person to have a hook-up with you, not to actually astral project and have astral sex with that person. Other forms of sex magick do not involve attracting a partner at all but just directing sexual energy toward a specific goal. Sex magick can also be performed after actually having sex with a CONSENSUAL partner, and directing your orgasmic energies toward your specific.

V12-POWER wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:52 am
people here should stop acting so gay n shit with that “spiritual rape” thing
You should grow up. Start by not using the world "gay" as if it's derogatory term, when in fact it means "happy, joyous, etc" and more recently "homosexual", none of which are derogatory in nature. Your use of language is very far from efficient and you also misunderstand the context of "spiritual rape", whose difference with love and sex magick I just highlighted.

nope, only you feel it’s derogatory, that’s what a typical snowflake says

I can’t be arsed to read 30 posts about what is “spiritual rape” which is probably a term you invented yourself, and a good way to scare off members

you could use common sense and realize that if something turns into “spiritual rape” then the performer has no real intentions of love/lust, its along the lines of black magic or something that is more of an attack

Then again, if you have the energy, patience and will power to “spiritual rape” someone, chances are you’ll spend your energy on more productive stuff

to be honest with you, spiritual rape is nonsense

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:55 am**

Meteor wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:15 pm

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:57 am
Both of you belong in the swamp.
I was wondering, what do you mean when you say people belong in a swamp? Is it some kind of metaphor, or literal?
...

If you’ve ever seen Sonnenkraft go nutter mode on Aldrick, the “swamp” thing is used as some kind of insult.

When all the “logical argument” cards have been played, this seems to be what they resort to as a last ditch effort to put someone down and gain the high ground - or something like that.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:42 am**

I may be quite late replying here. I skipped most of page 3 and all of page 4...

Mondol wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:48 pm
You are fully mad, fancymancy. Are you showing your attitude?

Fully, totally and completely. Not a single ounce of sanity whatsoever.

whats wrong with you?

Your mum.

Do you have any social time or work without mentioning me or others?

No. You?

you are such a poor guy from a a poor family, fancymancy.

Yeah, I can't afford any computer devices nor any Internet connections.

I didn't mention you firstly.

I know. I just hacked your private messages and inserted myself into the convo.

I just , in this topic , post my own opinion in this/about this topic.

Nope. You just troll and shitpost, being insulting and pissing about.

just I have commented my own opinion here which everybody do.

It's not your own opinion. After you have been corrected, you go and troll and abuse.

Oppositely you are saying that I am trolling.

Indeedidely-doodilly.

Here prove me,

What?

Where and whom with am I trolling? Prove this, fancy.

Look up.

i commented about women and their rights with my own opinion which I feel right. oppositely, you are saying that I am trolling.

Re-read. You were corrected, then you trolled and went into ad hominem attacks.

Your attitude and argument are proving yourself that you are from a poor family and you have no social ethics.

Yes. You know everything about me perfectly.

learn Ethics.

Don't wanna! Waaaaaaaaaah!

jrvan wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 21, 2021 7:57 pm

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:19 am

jrvan wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:54 am
What the fuck is wrong with you? Seriously, what did I even do to you to deserve such an abusive insult? You don't know me, and you don't know my wife. Get your fucking shit together. Absolutely unacceptable and disgraceful.
This is nothing compared to the dumb things you have said on this post.

Why do you respond to me like a woman “omg you are so abusive and disrespectful”. I can tell this hit very close for you.

No man would respond like this, because you are not a man, your wife is not sexually attracted to you, which is why you let other guys bang her. They are probably black as well.
If you ask me, you should be confined to the teen board until you grow the fuck up. Leave adults alone.

Rednecks think with their hearts full of lite beer, wearing dresses and drinking out of wine coolers, instead of with their heads.
https://youtu.be/x70eXoScX00

tabby wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 21, 2021 8:02 pm

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 21, 2021 2:19 am

jrvan wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 21, 2021 1:54 am
What the fuck is wrong with you? Seriously, what did I even do to you to deserve such an abusive insult? You don't know me, and you don't know my wife. Get your fucking shit together. Absolutely unacceptable and disgraceful.
This is nothing compared to the dumb things you have said on this post.

Why do you respond to me like a woman “omg you are so abusive and disrespectful”. I can tell this hit very close for you.

No man would respond like this, because you are not a man, your wife is not sexually attracted to you, which is why you let other guys bang her. They are probably black as well.
Why do you hate women and men who don’t conform to your bs version of what the sexes mean - to the point of pissing on your own brothers and sisters?

SouthernWhiteGentile and Mondol are wife and wife and have plastic double-ender dildoes which they don't clean after use.

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 21, 2021 9:09 pm
I am trying to promote womanhood and normal relation of the sexes.

Oh, lol - SouthernWhiteGentile, Mondol and Jack are in a woman, woman, woman relationship with uncleaned, re-used double-ender dildoes...or treble-ender dildoes. PMSL.

jrvan wrote: ↑
Thu Jan 21, 2021 11:38 pm

Jack wrote: Just as the jews take over the world's most powerful countries (essentially the entire world) and the NWO becomes fully operational to usher in the new age of darkness.

I have my priorities straight - debating whether love exists or not.

This is ok. This is exactly what o thought I'd be doing at this time.

Holy shit
You're the one who brought it into the conversation by just randomly declaring that love isn't real. I'm not sure what kind of response you expected, but you only have yourself to blame for any perceived waste of time. I assumed that you found it intellectually stimulating or else you wouldn't have bothered with further responses. *shrug*

I love trolls! xD "Love doesn't exist" because Haddaway asked what love is. Like... lol... or something.

Meteor wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:58 am
It seems the topic of this thread went from "how to seduce a married woman in 20 days" to "what is love". At least it's a more interesting topic than the one OP suggested.

It's remarkable how everyone has such a unique (as in, disagreeing with others), yet strong opinion. Maybe it's just different for different people?

Eggs-fucking-zactly! Dur is gnoe "definition" of love! It takes a retard a long time to figure that one out. The jew needs to understand what love is because it is not Human and lacks a proper soul and lacks certain chakras.

Oh, who am I kidding; obviously it's just that everyone knows best.
I have a unique opinion about love too. I think you are all wrong in various ways, because my feelings say so. There, does that help to settle the argument?

Things tend to escalate - or the reverse, reduce - into bullshit after a little while.

Jokes aside, while I do think this discussion is mostly pointless, it is rather fascinating to see how people argumentate

argue*

their opinions. The topic is about feelings, and yet all the opinions about it are formulated logically. Logic itself is absolute, and yet each person's logic is relative to their own perspective and reaches a different conclusion. As a result, so much is revealed about the unique ways different people think, as well as their beliefs, and the way they've reached those beliefs. I don't really have much to add since I dislike exposing too much about my own emotions publically, but it's certainly entertaining to watch.

We has a Logic Brayn and we has a non-Logic Brayn. Methinks luff can't be described with lojick, but Spock does, of course.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:33 am**

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:59 pm

TopoftheAbyss wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:50 am

Like everything else you never had an argument but instead your own dumb ideas. No one in their right mind thinks that thanksgiving is about sacrifice, but you have the mind of a little boy so I understand.

And this is the last bone I am throwing you dog, it is aimed towards the swamp. Go jump in and swim around with your gang of cretins.

Meteor wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:15 pm
I was wondering, what do you mean when you say people belong in a swamp? Is it some kind of metaphor, or literal? Do they need to be submerged or can they just hang out around it? Are you talking about a specific swamp or would any swamp do?
I cannot effectively explain what the swamp is to you. It is something that is understood. You know who is swamp creature and who isn’t. It’s a figurative thing but some people should seriously go for a swim, just hope there aren’t any alligators...

tabby wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:00 am
Drop it already and get off our backs, Southern.

The only one “destroying” your beloved “reputation” is yourself.
I’m not. But there is nothing left for either of us to say, so I suppose it is done.

Your posts are as empty as your brain, ShlomoWhiteGentile. Like a jew everything you said is false which was proven by me but you choose to ignore. You never even attempted to address my points. Keep acting like a jew, you'll go far on these forums.
You belong on a cross like all your kind.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:34 am**

Kurat wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 7:55 pm

TopoftheAbyss wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 11:50 am

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:57 am

I’m always open for the conversation. Shutting someone down calling them Jewish just shows you are afraid of them and their ideas. There’s no reason be afraid of me, I don’t bite.

There’s no backtracking here. I thought you knew me so well, than you should know I like making shithead remarks like the one that started this , everyone else realizes this and sees it as the (sometimes crude and distasteful) humor that it is. But instead you chose to spazz out and act like some abused woman. What do you have to gain from this? Trying to impress your wife by arguing with someone on the internet? That’s absurd. I have no one here to look good for, I say what I say because I want to say it. You already know I’m not going to back down. Just stop now and look like a loser. Do you know how many people in life and on this forum have tried to tear me down and destroy my reputation? You are not the first and certainly won’t be the last.

It is not sacrifice. Get over it. You really want to imprison me for eating a thanksgiving turkey? What a joke. Tell JRVAN that and watch how he runs screaming and crying to his mother that someone was mean to him. I will just tune you out like the barking dog that you are. Both of you belong in the swamp. Now run off and play your race car game little boy. Caillou.
Even Jews are more human than you. You always ignored my argument and kept repeating the same debunked lie again and again, because like a jew "it is real in your mind". But I wasn't even talking about that shitty xian holiday, I was talking about what you did on the Black Sun forum. While talking about Aryan excellence and most of all empathy, you compared animal torture to "not feeding an exotic bird". You bring shame to our race, Jews unironically have more empathy than you.
You are a real subhuman, you live in denial and care about nothing except yourself. You care about our race but with people like you in a leading role we would become like Jews, we would care only about us and jewsus. The planet would be a communist shithole.
Now go off and repeat the same jewish lies and empty threats like the little kike that you are.
We all Spiritual Satanists fighr for one thing, we are like on army. Do not make conflict with other Spiritual Satanists. Do not attack other members. If somebody attack you just ignore it. Tolerate other Spiritual Satanists opinions.

I don't have to tollerate idiots. He's acting as a jew and it's right to attack him.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:51 am**

V12-POWER wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:16 pm

Stormblood wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:58 am

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 pm

...
...
...
V12-POWER wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:52 am
people here should stop acting so gay n shit with that “spiritual rape” thing
...

What about Physical rape? In the future when the World is Spiritual Satanic again, and they can detect and realise when someone is having sex with their Light Body against their will, would it be Spiritual rape then? Does there need to be any laws? Would it be a violation due to the receiver not giving permission to have their own Body (in this case, Spiritual) being used or enjoyed? Do Daemons and Daemonesses need our permission to inhabit our Body, with us as a host, if we are capable of hosting them?

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:02 am**

Everytime someone will make such a topic, a whole chaos is going to ensue simply because people can't do two things:

1. Accept that other people may have a different outlook on said matters which are strictly personal, such as relationships.

2. Know that going too far with accusations over disagreeing such as calling each other very heavy words.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2021 6:10 am**

FancyMancy wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 25, 2021 5:51 am

V12-POWER wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:16 pm

Stormblood wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:58 am

...
...
V12-POWER wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:52 am
people here should stop acting so gay n shit with that “spiritual rape” thing
...

What about Physical rape? In the future when the World is Spiritual Satanic again, and they can detect and realise when someone is having sex with their Light Body against their will, would it be Spiritual rape then? Does there need to be any laws? Would it be a violation due to the receiver not giving permission to have their own Body (in this case, Spiritual) being used or enjoyed? Do Daemons and Daemonesses need our permission to inhabit our Body, with us as a host, if we are capable of hosting them?

There have been cases where psychic attack may have taken place about this, but these cases are rare. And they can be shut out. If one is so theoretically advanced to perceive the oh so heavenly sexual whatever, putting an aura of protection around them is not going to be beneath them.

Other than that, delusional imaginations are nothing new, and to take this to such a level of delusion, this is probably a most stupid thing, and spiritually unfounded. #MeToo and every retard to now be able to claim that they were raped in their imagination, literally, and it be taken actually in a literal fashion, causing penalties to people who never did nothing.

In the same way, Hermann Rosenblatt was actually holocausted, but in his imagination. This cannot be law.

In the case of said "offender" who did these things astrally, it's more than certain people capable to receive that, would be way past the level of being able to react to these things. And given the striking majority of people in these things have weird fetishes that follow all this, one can only imagine how far these crazy fantasies could go.

Only upon extreme evaluation and closely never these things should be taken as actual measures of judgement in the material world. That would be the epitome of injustice. And what then, every man could also go around and be like #MeToo cause muh imagination? That would be a total clown world at work.

The enemy tries to already get us here by giving foundations that lies and just random claims are enough to get people punished without any proof.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2021 8:37 am**

V12-POWER wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 9:16 pm

Stormblood wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 10:58 am

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 10:45 pm

I don’t see how I can be “homophobic” when I live in a house, if you mean homo as in homosexuals than that isn’t true either as I have never made anti gay comments, but still you act like a journalist TV script reader smearing me.
Oh, so you know how to make a joke.

Crystallized Mushroom wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:49 pm
so does that mean using a love spell or sex magick on someone you like but doesn't like you is rape or spiritual rape if thats the case thats fucked up
Making a love or sex magick is not the same as spiritually raping someone. Love magick is about finding the right partner, which does not involve directing your sexual energy at anyone specifically. Sex magick to attract a hook-up is just masturbating and directing the energy for influencing that person to have a hook-up with you, not to actually astral project and have astral sex with that person. Other forms of sex magick do not involve attracting a partner at all but just directing sexual energy toward a specific goal. Sex magick can also be performed after actually having sex with a CONSENSUAL partner, and directing your orgasmic energies toward your specific.

V12-POWER wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 6:52 am
people here should stop acting so gay n shit with that “spiritual rape” thing
You should grow up. Start by not using the world "gay" as if it's derogatory term, when in fact it means "happy, joyous, etc" and more recently "homosexual", none of which are derogatory in nature. Your use of language is very far from efficient and you also misunderstand the context of "spiritual rape", whose difference with love and sex magick I just highlighted.
nope, only you feel it’s derogatory, that’s what a typical snowflake says

I can’t be arsed to read 30 posts about what is “spiritual rape” which is probably a term you invented yourself, and a good way to scare off members

you could use common sense and realize that if something turns into “spiritual rape” then the performer has no real intentions of love/lust, its along the lines of black magic or something that is more of an attack

Then again, if you have the energy, patience and will power to “spiritual rape” someone, chances are you’ll spend your energy on more productive stuff

to be honest with you, spiritual rape is nonsense

Lucky you I only spent two posts on "spiritual rape" and I have no intention of spending more, since I already said what I needed to.

Some critical self-analysis in what you write would help you in the long run. Stormblood out.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:46 pm**

tabby wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 25, 2021 12:55 am

Meteor wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:15 pm

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 7:57 am
Both of you belong in the swamp.
I was wondering, what do you mean when you say people belong in a swamp? Is it some kind of metaphor, or literal?
...

If you’ve ever seen Sonnenkraft go nutter mode on Aldrick, the “swamp” thing is used as some kind of insult.

When all the “logical argument” cards have been played, this seems to be what they resort to as a last ditch effort to put someone down and gain the high ground - or something like that.

Even as an insult, it just seems bizarre to me. Maybe they picked something so weird because a more direct and serious insult wouldn't be tolerated as much. But if that's the case, what's still bizarre to me is that they wanted to insult another Satanist so severely that they had to use an euphemism in the first place over a minor disagreement. I think there might be something wrong with them.

Whatever it is that causes them to lash out like that, hopefully they can overcome it and become more pleasant people. Maybe they just haven't realised yet that not everyone who disagrees with them is their enemy.

Posted: **Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:22 pm**

FancyMancy wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:42 am

Meteor wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:58 am
Jokes aside, while I do think this discussion is mostly pointless, it is rather fascinating to see how people argumentate
argue*

All these years I seriously thought "argumentate" was a word because it sounds so similar to an actual word in my native language. The more I know.
Either way, I think "argue" sounds more fitting here anyway for other reasons as well, considering the tone of the conversation.

their opinions. The topic is about feelings, and yet all the opinions about it are formulated logically. Logic itself is absolute, and yet each person's logic is relative to their own perspective and reaches a different conclusion. As a result, so much is revealed about the unique ways different people think, as well as their beliefs, and the way they've reached those beliefs. I don't really have much to add since I dislike exposing too much about my own emotions publically, but it's certainly entertaining to watch.
We has a Logic Brayn and we has a non-Logic Brayn. Methinks luff can't be described with lojick, but Spock does, of course.

I think in theory, logic could exist that explains people's emotions. However, I've noticed that this "logic" is different for different people, and more importantly, it is not something people can invent or control, it simply exists.
No matter how people try to rationalise their emotions, if it doesn't completely match their true, internal logic, then even their own feelings can catch them by surprise. Even at times I thought I had my own feelings all figured out, I was still thrown off by something unexpected months or years later.

While I do think such internal logic probably exists (in the sense that emotions follow certain rules), those rules are about as comprehensible as the weights in a neural network AI. It's easy to find patterns, but fully understanding every aspect of it and all the edge cases is beyond our capabilities. In cases like that, all we can do is see how we feel when it actually happens, and act accordingly.

In the end, what you say is right. While it can be useful to have a basic understanding of your own emotions, trying to classify emotions with logic alone is an exercise in futility, and trying to classify it in a way that is true for everyone even more so.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:09 am**

Meteor wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:46 pm
Even as an insult, it just seems bizarre to me. Maybe they picked something so weird because a more direct and serious insult wouldn't be tolerated as much. But if that's the case, what's still bizarre to me is that they wanted to insult another Satanist so severely that they had to use an euphemism in the first place over a minor disagreement. I think there might be something wrong with them.

Like I said the swamp is something you do or don’t get. There’s no secret code or severe insult behind it. I think there might be something wrong you.

Whatever it is that causes them to lash out like that, hopefully they can overcome it and become more pleasant people. Maybe they just haven't realised yet that not everyone who disagrees with them is their enemy.

I don’t think people who disagree with me are enemies but if they choose to act like one than so be it.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:08 am**

Meteor wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:22 pm

FancyMancy wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:42 am

Meteor wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:58 am
Jokes aside, while I do think this discussion is mostly pointless, it is rather fascinating to see how people argumentate
argue*
All these years I seriously thought "argumentate" was a word because it sounds so similar to an actual word in my native language. The more I know.

Either way, I think "argue" sounds more fitting here anyway for other reasons as well, considering the tone of the conversation.

It's just like "burglarise" and "conversate". They would be burgle and converse, and the reason "burglarise" is used is so the further misspelling of "-ize" is to be used instead of "-ise". For these non-words, the usage of them, the misusage of the actual words, etc., my screen is not big enough for how large the

emoticon (or an equivalent, e.g. the MSN one) should be! Of course, I'm called a "Grammar Nazi" for telling people jewsus doesn't exist and Satan is the actual creator of Humankind!

their opinions. The topic is about feelings, and yet all the opinions about it are formulated logically. Logic itself is absolute, and yet each person's logic is relative to their own perspective and reaches a different conclusion. As a result, so much is revealed about the unique ways different people think, as well as their beliefs, and the way they've reached those beliefs. I don't really have much to add since I dislike exposing too much about my own emotions publically, but it's certainly entertaining to watch.
We has a Logic Brayn and we has a non-Logic Brayn. Methinks luff can't be described with lojick, but Spock does, of course.
I think in theory, logic could exist that explains people's emotions. However, I've noticed that this "logic" is different for different people, and more importantly, it is not something people can invent or control, it simply exists.
No matter how people try to rationalise their emotions, if it doesn't completely match their true, internal logic, then even their own feelings can catch them by surprise. Even at times I thought I had my own feelings all figured out, I was still thrown off by something unexpected months or years later.

While I do think such internal logic probably exists (in the sense that emotions follow certain rules), those rules are about as comprehensible as the weights in a neural network AI. It's easy to find patterns, but fully understanding every aspect of it and all the edge cases is beyond our capabilities. In cases like that, all we can do is see how we feel when it actually happens, and act accordingly.

In the end, what you say is right. While it can be useful to have a basic understanding of your own emotions, trying to classify emotions with logic alone is an exercise in futility, and trying to classify it in a way that is true for everyone even more so.

I think it ties into the Soul and the Chakras. Naturally, the jew doesn't have as many chakras as we have; therefore, it can only emulate and act, rather than actually behave and experience. (((Psychology))) enter, stage left! Spock, Sheldon Cooper, Young Sheldon, etc., enter, stage right!

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:05 am**

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 8:09 am

Meteor wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 25, 2021 2:46 pm
Even as an insult, it just seems bizarre to me. Maybe they picked something so weird because a more direct and serious insult wouldn't be tolerated as much. But if that's the case, what's still bizarre to me is that they wanted to insult another Satanist so severely that they had to use an euphemism in the first place over a minor disagreement. I think there might be something wrong with them.
Like I said the swamp is something you do or don’t get. There’s no secret code or severe insult behind it. I think there might be something wrong you.
Whatever it is that causes them to lash out like that, hopefully they can overcome it and become more pleasant people. Maybe they just haven't realised yet that not everyone who disagrees with them is their enemy.
I don’t think people who disagree with me are enemies but if they choose to act like one than so be it.

What do you think is wrong with me? Are you just retaliating because I said there's something wrong with you, or are you referring to the way I talk?
I never understood why some people are like that. They do the most ridiculous things and act like it's normal, and then I'm the weird one for calling them and their behaviours weird?

I'm sorry for using the weird "wrong", though. Although I was just saying my thoughts out loud to someone else, I did say it publicly, and putting it like that is hardly different from picking a fight; which is the thing I don't understand about you in the first place. I suppose I was a little blunt in that regard.

As you can see, people feel pretty insulted if you tell them they belong in a swamp. When it comes to one of the guys, I understand why you retaliated since it seems like he suddenly harassed you about a turkey; but I was wondering what your intention was when you initially said you believe the other guy is into cuckoldry, which was then denied by the person. It looked to me like you were trying to pick a fight for your amusement; was that the case, or were you personally bothered by something he had said in his discussion with Jack, or was there another reason?

If you're wondering why I'm nitpicking so much, you remind me of a classmate I had 8 years ago, whose behaviour I wasn't able to fully comprehend at the time. I told myself at the time that there's no need to understand, and yet I've become curious. I figured that by communicating with you, I might finally understand.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:25 pm**

Meteor wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:05 am
As you can see, people feel pretty insulted if you tell them they belong in a swamp. When it comes to one of the guys, I understand why you retaliated since it seems like he suddenly harassed you about a turkey.

This wasn’t a sudden thing. I made a post months ago around thanksgiving and that person came on it and started talking about how it is Christian animal sacrifice after being disproved by everyone on that very post. And yeah he thinks I should be put in a concentration camp over that but apparently I’m so bad and disrespectful for saying go jump in a swamp.

but I was wondering what your intention was when you initially said you believe the other guy is into cuckoldry, which was then denied by the person. It looked to me like you were trying to pick a fight for your amusement; was that the case, or were you personally bothered by something he had said in his discussion with Jack, or was there another reason?

His previous posts on this thread were really annoying me and gave off this very pretentious beta male vibe so I had to say something. Do I seriously think he is into cuckoldry? No. But it sure sounded like it to me. Also the way he responded to after that comment was even more hysterical and unnecessary.

Look a few posts up. User Fancymancy is talking about me and jack dildoing each other or something. I don’t care because that’s his way of humor, I’m not freaking out saying ermegahd this guy is a bigot I’ll have you know that blah blah blah blah.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:25 pm**

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:25 pm

Meteor wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:05 am
As you can see, people feel pretty insulted if you tell them they belong in a swamp. When it comes to one of the guys, I understand why you retaliated since it seems like he suddenly harassed you about a turkey.
This wasn’t a sudden thing. I made a post months ago around thanksgiving and that person came on it and started talking about how it is Christian animal sacrifice after being disproved by everyone on that very post. And yeah he thinks I should be put in a concentration camp over that but apparently I’m so bad and disrespectful for saying go jump in a swamp.

but I was wondering what your intention was when you initially said you believe the other guy is into cuckoldry, which was then denied by the person. It looked to me like you were trying to pick a fight for your amusement; was that the case, or were you personally bothered by something he had said in his discussion with Jack, or was there another reason?
His previous posts on this thread were really annoying me and gave off this very pretentious beta male vibe so I had to say something. Do I seriously think he is into cuckoldry? No. But it sure sounded like it to me. Also the way he responded to after that comment was even more hysterical and unnecessary.

Look a few posts up. User Fancymancy is talking about me and jack dildoing each other or something. I don’t care because that’s his way of humor, I’m not freaking out saying ermegahd this guy is a bigot I’ll have you know that blah blah blah blah.

Except it wasn't disproven, you dumb kike. No matter how much you keep repeating it. It is by definition xian blood sacrifice. You denying it like a jew doesn't change reality. You lie, deny and deceive like a jew and must be put in your place. You claim I don't have arguments, but this isn't true. I argue my points while you deny them without even trying to adress them then claim I'm in the wrong. You accuse me of what you're doing and you should be put on a cross. That's the place for subhumans and hypocrites like you.
Being so dumb like you are I can't but imagine how shitty your parents are. You're giving credit to the stereotype that southerners are inbred idiots.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:40 pm**

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:25 pm

Meteor wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:05 am
As you can see, people feel pretty insulted if you tell them they belong in a swamp. When it comes to one of the guys, I understand why you retaliated since it seems like he suddenly harassed you about a turkey.
This wasn’t a sudden thing. I made a post months ago around thanksgiving and that person came on it and started talking about how it is Christian animal sacrifice after being disproved by everyone on that very post. And yeah he thinks I should be put in a concentration camp over that but apparently I’m so bad and disrespectful for saying go jump in a swamp.

I don't think there's any special or problematic procedures when it comes to killing turkeys, and it would be a waste not to eat an animal that was already killed anyway. At that point his argument is hardly different from "don't eat meat", which I can't agree with. I'm quite tall and have a fast metabolism, so I need to eat a lot in order to maintain a healthy weight, and that simply isn't sustainable for me without any meat in my diet. I'm assuming he just dislikes the atmosphere at the table during that "holiday"? I can understand that, but I don't think he should blame the food for it, let alone you.

I was thinking the way he insults people's character over personal disagreements is a bit similar to you, although his insults always just come down to "you're worse than the enemy", whereas yours are a bit more varied.
I think you're a lot more pleasant to interact with though compared to him. I'd rather be told to jump in a swamp than be told my values are "Judeo-Christian", as he said when I expressed my opinions in a thread about prostitution. I'm a bit hardcore when it comes to love and monogamy, and he felt offended. Everyone else talked about it in a decent, mature manner, while he just went and called me what I hate the most. I'm still a bit salty over that; maybe I should try splashing around in a swamp for a bit to wash it off? Although I wouldn't want to run into him there if he decides to go as well, so maybe not.

but I was wondering what your intention was when you initially said you believe the other guy is into cuckoldry, which was then denied by the person. It looked to me like you were trying to pick a fight for your amusement; was that the case, or were you personally bothered by something he had said in his discussion with Jack, or was there another reason?
His previous posts on this thread were really annoying me and gave off this very pretentious beta male vibe so I had to say something. Do I seriously think he is into cuckoldry? No. But it sure sounded like it to me. Also the way he responded to after that comment was even more hysterical and unnecessary.

Look a few posts up. User Fancymancy is talking about me and jack dildoing each other or something. I don’t care because that’s his way of humor, I’m not freaking out saying ermegahd this guy is a bigot I’ll have you know that blah blah blah blah.

So he belongs in the swamp because his opinions and attitude really annoyed you. It seems your opinion and attitude also really annoyed him, does that mean you belong in the swamp as well, or do you not? Please elaborate, as I'm curious about your reasoning here; although I think I'm slowly starting to understand it.

FancyMancy's humor is rather funny, although she mentioned something about not having balls recently, so I'm not sure about her being a guy. Not like that matters here, though. Or does it? If such a thing were the true, would that affect the way you think of FancyMancy? If so, is that in some way related to the annoying vibe jrvan gave you?

I don't care for labels such as misogyny. People will think and feel as they do, for whatever reasons that may be. However, I'm wondering if the behaviors I don't understand have something to do with your views on masculinity and femininity.
Now that I think about it, that would somewhat explain my classmate's behaviour back then as well.
He always wore sleeveless shirts to show off his muscles, and was always rude to a geeky guy with long hair who usually wore long sleeves. But then one time after PE, after being provoked, the long-haired guy took of his shirt and flexed his muscles, and it turned out he was very muscular too, but just didn't show it much. After that, the other guy stopped picking fights with him and started trying to become friends with him instead.
I didn't understand his behavior at the time, but now I think perhaps it has something to do with the way he thinks men should be like, and that he highly values masculinity. Do you also think men should be a certain way?

Although I think I'm starting to understand it, I'm still very curious about your answers, since I feel like there's still something I'm missing.

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:18 pm**

Meteor wrote: but I was wondering what your intention was when you initially said you believe the other guy is into cuckoldry, which was then denied by the person. It looked to me like you were trying to pick a fight for your amusement; was that the case, or were you personally bothered by something he had said in his discussion with Jack, or was there another reason?

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: His previous posts on this thread were really annoying me and gave off this very pretentious beta male vibe so I had to say something. Do I seriously think he is into cuckoldry? No. But it sure sounded like it to me. Also the way he responded to after that comment was even more hysterical and unnecessary.

Look a few posts up. User Fancymancy is talking about me and jack dildoing each other or something. I don’t care because that’s his way of humor, I’m not freaking out saying ermegahd this guy is a bigot I’ll have you know that blah blah blah blah.

So you thought it be wise to sling an insult at someone just because they’re different from your narrow mindset of what a man is, and you found their comments annoying? How juvenile.

The way you use women and femininity as an insult against other men is disgusting.

smh... This is just going in circles now. Accept that people are different from you. If every man was macho-alpha with no variation on the scale of femininity and masculinity, then they’d be clones of the jewish agenda.

Is that something you want?

Posted: **Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:33 pm**

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 3:25 pm

Meteor wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:05 am
As you can see, people feel pretty insulted if you tell them they belong in a swamp. When it comes to one of the guys, I understand why you retaliated since it seems like he suddenly harassed you about a turkey.
This wasn’t a sudden thing. I made a post months ago around thanksgiving and that person came on it and started talking about how it is Christian animal sacrifice after being disproved by everyone on that very post. And yeah he thinks I should be put in a concentration camp over that but apparently I’m so bad and disrespectful for saying go jump in a swamp.

but I was wondering what your intention was when you initially said you believe the other guy is into cuckoldry, which was then denied by the person. It looked to me like you were trying to pick a fight for your amusement; was that the case, or were you personally bothered by something he had said in his discussion with Jack, or was there another reason?
His previous posts on this thread were really annoying me and gave off this very pretentious beta male vibe so I had to say something. Do I seriously think he is into cuckoldry? No. But it sure sounded like it to me. Also the way he responded to after that comment was even more hysterical and unnecessary.

Look a few posts up. User Fancymancy is talking about me and jack dildoing each other or something. I don’t care because that’s his way of humor, I’m not freaking out saying ermegahd this guy is a bigot I’ll have you know that blah blah blah blah.

It's not your job to police peoples' behavior, and the only reason this has dragged on for so long is because you couldn't handle being called out and confronted on your remarks. Shit got too real for you. That doesn't make me a woman, it makes you a little boy who got put in their place then decided to lash out in rage, crying, full hissy fit mode.
Not everyone is meant to be alpha, and there is nothing wrong with being beta contrary to toxic popular belief. If being beta was such a high crime against nature then there wouldn't be betas. If everyone was alpha then we would have no leadership principle, and there would be no way for society or any group at all to manifest because everyone would refuse to follow anyone.

I enjoy intellectual debate, and that's what I attempted to engage in with Jack. Just because my ideas are too much for you to comprehend doesn't make them wrong, and they have nothing to do with my behavior. If you have nothing to contribute besides NS articles that you didn't write, complaining about modern women that you can't have, and shaming other males for perceived inferiority, then maybe you should just shut up and stop pretending to be alpha. You're meant to be beta right now because alpha is outside your current capacity.

Shaming me is not going to change me because I don't respond to shaming language in that way. I'm going to continue being the way I am, and there's nothing you can do about it. Get used to me, prick.

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:12 am**

Mondol wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 16, 2021 5:24 am

FancyMancy wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 15, 2021 5:50 pm

Mondol wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 15, 2021 6:53 am
Sex is another topic and is not mixed with Satanism
Like... the Kundalini - the very importantly-vitally-supremely-paramount Energy of Satan within us, which we are to empower and raise safely and carefully - is sexual in Nature. There will be brothels in the future, regulated properly and clean, safe and healthy.

[permission of law]
It is no law-person's business if I have sex with someone who wants to have sex with me, nor is it any law-person's business if I have sex with more than 1 person who each want to have sex with me, either.

NishaWillow wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 15, 2021 1:40 pm
You have to be able to offer something too.
Or even if you just want to have sex, it's not okay to cast a strong spell on someone and after you get bored, just reject her or something like this... it's not okay to use other people as you please.
That's why the affirmation must be stated very correctly.

NinRick wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 15, 2021 4:22 pm

No magick boosts your chances by a lot.

Even if you just do a little Aura Magick (or how you call it when you invoke energy of a specific colour, merge it with our aura and program it) does wonders. Do a little sex magick and program her while she sleeps and congratulations, you have successfully become a spiritual rapist xD
I would like to have a topic (but I am not as bothered enough as to actually start one) regarding why it is OK to try and convince a person to strip naked and bend over for you with a meal and drink and sparkly, glittery things, masculine showing-off, like-mindedness, etc., but it is not OK to do the same with Magick...
I am not discussing about Kundalini in this topic.

If both couple want to be together ( Sex+ Marriage), then it is fine. Law supports this couple.
I am trying to say that there are random bad people in the world who will make this world like A sex business world if sex and marriage is not be under control by law and if sex/love be freedom to people.

Law is necessary to stop random sex.

I will never want people's freedom sex . I will always be against who are doing sex without law permission or breaking law rules or without parents permission. I will forever be against freedom sex.

I am not against who love each other.
I am against who did random sex and did fake love.

This shit is xian

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2021 12:35 am**

Meteor wrote: ↑
Sun Jan 24, 2021 4:15 pm
Even as an insult, it just seems bizarre to me. Maybe they picked something so weird because a more direct and serious insult wouldn't be tolerated as much. But if that's the case, what's still bizarre to me is that they wanted to insult another Satanist so severely that they had to use an euphemism in the first place over a minor disagreement. I think there might be something wrong with them.

Whatever it is that causes them to lash out like that, hopefully they can overcome it and become more pleasant people. Maybe they just haven't realised yet that not everyone who disagrees with them is their enemy.

I don’t really get the mentality behind it either.

Unless someone here does something against the forum rules or they’re outright kike scum, I don’t see any reason to use these kind of insults against other SS.

And I agree. I hope this can be put in the past now and moved on from. We’ve all got more important things to do than call each other “swamp creatures”, after all.

(*sighs* this thread has gotten so long and way off topic...

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Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:54 am**

Meteor wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:22 pm

FancyMancy wrote: ↑
Mon Jan 25, 2021 3:42 am

Meteor wrote: ↑
Fri Jan 22, 2021 4:58 am
Jokes aside, while I do think this discussion is mostly pointless, it is rather fascinating to see how people argumentate
argue*
All these years I seriously thought "argumentate" was a word because it sounds so similar to an actual word in my native language. The more I know.
Either way, I think "argue" sounds more fitting here anyway for other reasons as well, considering the tone of the conversation.

their opinions. The topic is about feelings, and yet all the opinions about it are formulated logically. Logic itself is absolute, and yet each person's logic is relative to their own perspective and reaches a different conclusion. As a result, so much is revealed about the unique ways different people think, as well as their beliefs, and the way they've reached those beliefs. I don't really have much to add since I dislike exposing too much about my own emotions publically, but it's certainly entertaining to watch.
We has a Logic Brayn and we has a non-Logic Brayn. Methinks luff can't be described with lojick, but Spock does, of course.
I think in theory, logic could exist that explains people's emotions. However, I've noticed that this "logic" is different for different people, and more importantly, it is not something people can invent or control, it simply exists.
No matter how people try to rationalise their emotions, if it doesn't completely match their true, internal logic, then even their own feelings can catch them by surprise. Even at times I thought I had my own feelings all figured out, I was still thrown off by something unexpected months or years later.

While I do think such internal logic probably exists (in the sense that emotions follow certain rules), those rules are about as comprehensible as the weights in a neural network AI. It's easy to find patterns, but fully understanding every aspect of it and all the edge cases is beyond our capabilities. In cases like that, all we can do is see how we feel when it actually happens, and act accordingly.

In the end, what you say is right. While it can be useful to have a basic understanding of your own emotions, trying to classify emotions with logic alone is an exercise in futility, and trying to classify it in a way that is true for everyone even more so.

Except, its not 'logic'. Logic is bound by the material limitations of human beings. The great mathematician Ramanujan ,did not study mathematics in an advanced level and didn't have an education. But through meditation he could connect with the universal field of knowledge 'jnana' ,through which he got all his formulas.

He didn't know what they were and he spent time reverse decoding them with British Mathematicians, exactly what they were. And every formula has been verified by the decades after his death to be true, a true explanation of reality. It was the same thing with Nikola Tesla and the Russian Chemist Mendeleev. They got the revelation from the Universal field, and then they reverse engineered it.

It's not 'logic' when I say 'Love doesn't exist '. This is not some teenage bullshit where I'm saying this because some girl hurt me in the past and I decided that 'love isn't real.'

Due to the lack of psychic prowess most people can't truly understand what others are saying and that creates a problem because it's hard to convey something through the limitations of language. It is generally better to experience the truth in meditation rather than have someone explain it to you.

Only through shutting off the side of logic (judgement through your human nature) ,and looking at it from the Right Brained soul nature in trance ,can you experience 'truth'. The more open you are in the chakras, the more easier it is to experience it. Its called Jnana Yoga (the knowledge through revelation. )

It's very simple if you just suspend your nature of judgment, temporarily and try to understand what I'm saying. Plato put it very well when he said ,
A wise man can entertain two ideas in his head without rejecting either.

'Love's is a notion that is personal to every other individual.
'Love's is differently present in each other individual. Its composition differs for everyone.
This is why there is no definition of 'Love' that is universal.
Since it is not present universally in the same way for everyone, it is thus not 'real' as opposed to the physical world.
The physical world can be interpreted differently by different people but the real world's composition won't change for different people. People 'interpret it differently.
As opposed to this ,the composition of love itself is what changes with every other individual.

By saying love doesn't exist, I don't mean that it isn't present. It is, but what's present in you is not present in me. Its totally different.

I didn't get this through logic. Only after I meditated on this subject and got the revelation could I understand what was going on. Its going to be extremely hard to conduct yourself with maturity and respect others if you don't understand yourself and believe in an idealistic sense of love, which is put in our brains with Music, films etc. Its just not true.

A girl I was talking to day before yesterday put in very nicely when she,

"She might not love you the same way you do, which is okay. It doesn't make either of you wrong. Its just what it is."

Women seem to intuitively understand things that men can't, because they are more inclined to false romanticism. They keep clinging to ideas like hopeless romantics. Its just an attempt to replace their ultimate lack of purpose - they haven't yet dedicated 100% to a higher cause. And this paragraph is from my own understanding. Its not from any revelation.

This understanding is not something I got from using 'logic'. It was because I couldn't figure it out through my human limitations and was unsatisfied was why I said "I don't know anything about this. " And started meditation on it.

If I was using reductionist reasoning, the actual logical argument I would reach is that 'Love' is a cocktail of Chemicals exploding in your brain. Similar to a drug addiction. But I'm not using logic ,not is it my personal interpretation or understanding about this.

The reason why people fall in love ,is because they are made for each other. Like couplings. And these are traits and the accompanying energy that we seek to fill our soul with. This is borne out of astrology and past life karma. And this is differently present for every single individual out there. So using love is more asinine than confusing. Using traits you will eventually reach that feeling of love. It's not something that's a big deal and it's a healthier less idealistic way of looking at things rather than trying to shoot targets with eyes closed.

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:45 am**

Meteor wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:40 pm
I was thinking the way he insults people's character over personal disagreements is a bit similar to you, although his insults always just come down to "you're worse than the enemy", whereas yours are a bit more varied.
I think you're a lot more pleasant to interact with though compared to him. I'd rather be told to jump in a swamp than be told my values are "Judeo-Christian", as he said when I expressed my opinions in a thread about prostitution. I'm a bit hardcore when it comes to love and monogamy, and he felt offended. Everyone else talked about it in a decent, mature manner, while he just went and called me what I hate the most.

Some will say I’m the crazy kook on the forum that you have to look out for, but this intellectual giant is calling me a subhuman Jew for eating a turkey on thanksgiving. You have to wonder what is being put in the water to make someone think this way.

I'm still a bit salty over that; maybe I should try splashing around in a swamp for a bit to wash it off? Although I wouldn't want to run into him there if he decides to go as well, so maybe not.

You shouldn’t do that. The swamp is for generally foul people. I think you are a good man. Those murky waters are all theirs to have. Stay away from these influences.

So he belongs in the swamp because his opinions and attitude really annoyed you. It seems your opinion and attitude also really annoyed him, does that mean you belong in the swamp as well, or do you not? Please elaborate, as I'm curious about your reasoning here; although I think I'm slowly starting to understand it.

No it doesn’t. These people don’t get to decide who goes into the swamp because they are already there! Imagine inmates running the asylum and choosing who gets admitted, it’s asinine.

FancyMancy's humor is rather funny, although she mentioned something about not having balls recently, so I'm not sure about her being a guy. Not like that matters here, though. Or does it? If such a thing were the true, would that affect the way you think of FancyMancy? If so, is that in some way related to the annoying vibe jrvan gave you?

I was under the impression that FM was a he not a she, and if “he” doesn’t have testicles it doesn’t matter because I feel the same either way. They are a veteran SS that is usually insightful, and who is jrvan? Nobody.

Now if you would excuse me good sir there are some rougarous that I have to respond to.

jrvan wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 11:33 pm
It's not your job to police peoples' behavior

It is if I want it to be. Somebody has to take out the trash.

and the only reason this has dragged on for so long is because you couldn't handle being called out and confronted on your remarks. Shit got too real for you. That doesn't make me a woman, it makes you a little boy who got put in their place then decided to lash out in rage, crying, full hissy fit mode.

Who is that lashing out and having the hissy fit? I will refer you to the original reply here where you are crying about what a big meanie I am for joking with you.

Not everyone is meant to be alpha, and there is nothing wrong with being beta contrary to toxic popular belief.

There is something wrong with being a beta it means that... you’re a beta. Betas get no respect from anyone which is why I could pick on you in the first place, can’t do that to an alpha.

If being beta was such a high crime against nature then there wouldn't be betas.

We live in a very unnatural society so this point is invalid.

If everyone was alpha then we would have no leadership principle, and there would be no way for society or any group at all to manifest because everyone would refuse to follow anyone.

This is not a zero sum game. If someone is not an alpha it doesn’t automatically mean that they are a beta. There’s lots of room in the middle. But you are very clearly a BETA.

my ideas are too much for you to comprehend doesn't make them wrong, and they have nothing to do with my behavior.

Your ideas are too pathetic and gay for anyone to take seriously. A society cannot be based on jrvan beta philosophy. Now go ahead Aristotle. Spit some more of that wisdom you have.

Shaming me is not going to change me because I don't respond to shaming language in that way. I'm going to continue being the way I am, and there's nothing you can do about it. Get used to me, prick.

I say the same to you HP jrvan. Fight your own battles, which leads me to this final point.

You did the ultimate beta coward move and hid behind your wife when confronted.

This to me is the worst part about all of this. Imagine you and tabby were walking down the street, and then suddenly a man with weapon walked up and threatened you, would you throw her in front of you and make tabby eat the bullet? Because that’s what you just did in this thread.

You made her respond and get involved so that it makes me look bad because everyone knows that you can’t hit a woman, and I didn’t because that’s not who I am.

You are a very sneaky man Jvran. You thought I was stupid and that you were going to get one over on me, when the truth is that I know all of the swamp tactics that you use so I know how to avoid them.

TopoftheAbyss wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 5:25 pm

Have you ever seen the classic cartoon “Charlie brown”? You sound the adults in that show every time you respond to me. Womp womp womp womp womp
https://youtu.be/q_BU5hR9gXE

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:01 am**

Meteor wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:40 pm
...

(Nooo... FancyMancy is a Boy. I meant that Girls don't have balls because a user who thinks with his heart instead of his head said "all" and kicking us in our "balls", or something, in his post. Me is a Boy and has Balls and a Penis! Ooh, and a Prostate and other Boy thnigs! Heck, I even have nipples, but am still a Boy! The following may be lowering the tone too much, but I'll chance it - I also has (or had, depending on my age) a Pussy - you know, like a Boypussy... but am still a Boy!)

By the way - I am skipping over nearly all of this... erm... shall we say fun stuff in this thread. Just-a let yer'all know.

Jack wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:54 am
'Love' is in the air, everywhere I look around
love is in the air, every sight and every sound
and I don't know if I'm being foolish
don't know if I'm being wise
but is something that I must believe in
and it's there when--

Well, you know the rest.

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2021 1:32 pm**

V12POWER is right. Use the spells when there is a potentiality between you and that person (which is typically very common). "Spiritual rape" is not a factor here. Anyone who tries to "spiritual rape" will get their shit kicked in.

Do you think the average person in say 1920 hesitated to go up to someone they found attractive? No. So why is using a spell bad when both are based on principles of manifestation and a spell will create a more harmonious result, cutting through bullshit?

Yes, there are 12 Signs, 12 Houses and 10 Planets. And someone with Venus in Aries 8th House for example is generally going to find a partner supplying consent forms and a writ every time they have sex to be a contemptible and annoying weakling. There is no one size fits all when it comes to sexual interaction.

Part of the demoralization campaign against Magick has also its roots here in other obvious sources that are standard for a certain generational cohort. Stop taking 'advice' from twitter and idiots like incels.m3 that has nothing to do with anything on the site or anything to do with any other celestial disciplines. Satanists paying attention to the opinions of damaged, powerless and worthless chandala people is insanity. A worm might seem 'grounded' compared to an eagle, but regardless, a worm can only see things from its vantage point and is vulnerable to anything. An eagle that acts like a worm burying itself in the dirt ends up being more worthless and powerless than a worm.

TopoftheAbyss wrote: ↑
Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:22 am
It literally is a sacrifice of xian origin, just because you enjoy eating it doesn't mean it isn't a sacrifice. And just because you enjoy eating meat doesn't make animal suffering okay. Like I said, there is little difference between you and a jew. In a sane society you'll be put in a concentration camp.

You have really gone off the deep end here. Thanksgiving is just a celebration of the colonies, it doesn't even have to involve meat. And what do you propose a species with a stomach acid more potent than a dog do? Eat leaves and 'Israeli cow cells' as per rebbe Magestein's advice? Is veganism your latest shortcut in want of doing anything?

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:59 pm**

Jack wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:54 am
Except, its not 'logic'. Logic is bound by the material limitations of human beings.

As a mathematician, I disagree. To me, logic is boundless and infinite.
In mathematics, there are axioms: things that are true simply because they are. (For example, the way addition works: if you have one apple and you obtain two more without losing the first, you'll have three in total. There's simply no other way about it.)
From these axioms, everything follows. This follows through logic, and that is what logic truly is. From that which follows, follows more. It is endless; everything that follows from the axioms can be deduced, and as such, everything that follows can be understood with clarity and without a doubt, so long as the axioms as well as the logic are sound.

Throughout history, mathematics have been used to simplify trades, simplify carpentry, predict the ways planets will move in the sky, and even get spaceships to their intended destination. The axioms in mathematics are chosen to mirror the way the real world functions, and help us interact with the real world efficiently and effectively.

I believe it is no coincidence that mathematics work so well. The axioms we've discovered, are no mere inventions; they are mirrors of something that truly exists: the axioms of reality itself. To understand the axioms, one can formulate hyoptheses and attempt to confirm them through experiments. The more consistent the results, the more likely you got it right or at least mostly right.

As you already mentioned in other words, meditation can sometimes allow us to see the axioms directly. But it's not just the axioms that we can see; without any words to slow it down anymore, logic becomes lightning-fast, and in moments we can see not just the axioms, but also everything that follows and how it applies to us and our surroundings. This is the true identity of "intuition".

Logic does not speak, it has no words; it simply is, and words only serve to communicate it. Having sound internal logic and being able to put it into words are two entirely different skills. And to perfect one's logic without relying on words, is to perfect one's intuition; so long as we understand the axioms, that is, which we can verify through experiments.

Why would a person's emotions and personality be any different? If I get to know a person, I can figure out the things that'll make them happy and the things that'll make them upset. Even a person's love is borne from the axioms within an individual's Soul. Even love follows rules; whether it takes a minute or 1000 years to understand those rules, and whether that's the time it takes to understand one person's love or the love of many people, doesn't matter. No matter how nonsensical anything in this world may seem, and no matter if no one understands it, it makes sense. Whether or not to try and understand it is up to the people.

As for the actual content of your opinion, I disagree. You say love is different for every person, but that is not true. Depending on who you compare, there can be so much overlap. No two people are completely the same, but they can be the same in many regards, including aspects of how they think and how they feel. If you aggregate many people's love into a collection of all the aspects, I believe something will become apparent: in different cases, different combinations of aspects will light up; and certain combinations will be very common. So many kinds of love exist for not just an individual, but for millions, if not billions of people. There may be an odd one here and there, but almost all of it falls into categories where a specific combination of conditions is met. (Regarding this, I believe that rather than specific aspects being strictly required, they all work towards a threshold for one or more subtypes of love; if this threshold is met, there is love. By sorting and arranging the aspects in a specific way, the more a certain section lights up, the more that type of love is present.)

This is how I see it: not one, but many kinds of love exist; and these different kinds of love can mix to create combinations that may not be so easily understood as their components.
All the aspects that make up a person's love exist in the real world: within that person, their surroundings, and those they love; and the combinations of those aspects determines which categories they fall into. Just because the details and rules are not easily understood does not make it any less objective. For example, a person doesn't even have to realise they're in love to be in love; it may still be obvious to other people regardless. That means love is real, and something that objectively exists. That there exist forms of love that have hardly anything in common with each other, and that some forms of love can only be experienced by certain types of people, doesn't change that.

While I think to try and fully understand every aspect of your own emotions and those of others is pointless and an exercise in futility when you can just act on them most of the time and still end up with an acceptable result, in this case I had to recognise love as more than just the arbitrary subjective matter people usually make it out for, so that I could adequately explain why I disagree with you. And just in case, I should probably clarify that just because I believe love exists and makes sense, doesn't mean I necessarily have a deeper understanding of it than anyone else. All I'm saying is that it can be understood, whether partially or fully; and while understanding it fully might be too challenging for us still, if we had a thousand years to discover different people's love and think about it in depth, then I think we would be able to reach an adequate understanding even of love in its entirety. To say otherwise is to overly mystify the concept.

Posted: **Wed Jan 27, 2021 11:52 pm**

FancyMancy wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 27, 2021 7:01 am

Meteor wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:40 pm
...
(Nooo... FancyMancy is a Boy. I meant that Girls don't have balls because a user who thinks with his heart instead of his head said "all" and kicking us in our "balls", or something, in his post. Me is a Boy and has Balls and a Penis! Ooh, and a Prostate and other Boy thnigs! Heck, I even have nipples, but am still a Boy! The following may be lowering the tone too much, but I'll chance it - I also has (or had, depending on my age) a Pussy - you know, like a Boypussy... but am still a Boy!)

By the way - I am skipping over nearly all of this... erm... shall we say fun stuff in this thread. Just-a let yer'all know.

Ah, I was a bit unsure about it (since you also recently mentioned going to an event for guys only), but I thought it might provoke a response from Southern to help me understand how he thinks, and a response from you as well to help clear up my misunderstanding if I was wrong. Both of those things happened, so I feel intellectually satisfied now. I apologise for getting you involved in such a weird way, though.

Anyway, I know the topic is boring. You can run along now and do... boy things.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 1:12 am**

Meteor wrote: ↑
Tue Jan 26, 2021 9:40 pm
FancyMancy's humor is rather funny, although she mentioned something about not having balls recently, so I'm not sure about her being a guy. Not like that matters here, though. Or does it? If such a thing were the true, would that affect the way you think of FancyMancy? If so, is that in some way related to the annoying vibe jrvan gave you?

Mancy is not a girl. He is a gay man. Whatever he said about not having balls was probably some kind of joke. Maybe a metaphor. He speaks almost entirely by jokes and creative metaphors.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 2:05 am**

SouthernWhiteGentile wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 27, 2021 6:45 am
...

Thank you for your answers, I think I mostly understand now.

I have a couple more questions if you don't mind: when did you form your opinion about beta males, and what were the events leading up to you forming the opinion? For example, what was it like the first time someone like that annoyed you?

Although I think I now understand your behaviour and that of my classmate back then, I still wonder where exactly it comes from. I can speculate, but simply hearing it directly from you could be a lot more insightful.

Posted: **Thu Jan 28, 2021 3:32 am**

Meteor wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 27, 2021 4:59 pm

Jack wrote: ↑
Wed Jan 27, 2021 2:54 am
Except, its not 'logic'. Logic is bound by the material limitations of human beings.
As a mathematician, I disagree. To me, logic is boundless and infinite.
In mathematics, there are axioms: things that are true simply because they are. (For example, the way addition works: if you have one apple and you obtain two more without losing the first, you'll have three in total. There's simply no other way about it.)
From these axioms, everything follows. This follows through logic, and that is what logic truly is. From that which follows, follows more. It is endless; everything that follows from the axioms can be deduced, and as such, everything that follows can be understood with clarity and without a doubt, so long as the axioms as well as the logic are sound.

Throughout history, mathematics have been used to simplify trades, simplify carpentry, predict the ways planets will move in the sky, and even get spaceships to their intended destination. The axioms in mathematics are chosen to mirror the way the real world functions, and help us interact with the real world efficiently and effectively.

I believe it is no coincidence that mathematics work so well. The axioms we've discovered, are no mere inventions; they are mirrors of something that truly exists: the axioms of reality itself. To understand the axioms, one can formulate hyoptheses and attempt to confirm them through experiments. The more consistent the results, the more likely you got it right or at least mostly right.

As you already mentioned in other words, meditation can sometimes allow us to see the axioms directly. But it's not just the axioms that we can see; without any words to slow it down anymore, logic becomes lightning-fast, and in moments we can see not just the axioms, but also everything that follows and how it applies to us and our surroundings. This is the true identity of "intuition".

Logic does not speak, it has no words; it simply is, and words only serve to communicate it. Having sound internal logic and being able to put it into words are two entirely different skills. And to perfect one's logic without relying on words, is to perfect one's intuition; so long as we understand the axioms, that is, which we can verify through experiments.

Why would a person's emotions and personality be any different? If I get to know a person, I can figure out the things that'll make them happy and the things that'll make them upset. Even a person's love is borne from the axioms within an individual's Soul. Even love follows rules; whether it takes a minute or 1000 years to understand those rules, and whether that's the time it takes to understand one person's love or the love of many people, doesn't matter. No matter how nonsensical anything in this world may seem, and no matter if no one understands it, it makes sense. Whether or not to try and understand it is up to the people.

As for the actual content of your opinion, I disagree. You say love is different for every person, but that is not true. Depending on who you compare, there can be so much overlap. No two people are completely the same, but they can be the same in many regards, including aspects of how they think and how they feel. If you aggregate many people's love into a collection of all the aspects, I believe something will become apparent: in different cases, different combinations of aspects will light up; and certain combinations will be very common. So many kinds of love exist for not just an individual, but for millions, if not billions of people. There may be an odd one here and there, but almost all of it falls into categories where a specific combination of conditions is met. (Regarding this, I believe that rather than specific aspects being strictly required, they all work towards a threshold for one or more subtypes of love; if this threshold is met, there is love. By sorting and arranging the aspects in a specific way, the more a certain section lights up, the more that type of love is present.)

This is how I see it: not one, but many kinds of love exist; and these different kinds of love can mix to create combinations that may not be so easily understood as their components.
All the aspects that make up a person's love exist in the real world: within that person, their surroundings, and those they love; and the combinations of those aspects determines which categories they fall into. Just because the details and rules are not easily understood does not make it any less objective. For example, a person doesn't even have to realise they're in love to be in love; it may still be obvious to other people regardless. That means love is real, and something that objectively exists. That there exist forms of love that have hardly anything in common with each other, and that some forms of love can only be experienced by certain types of people, doesn't change that.

While I think to try and fully understand every aspect of your own emotions and those of others is pointless and an exercise in futility when you can just act on them most of the time and still end up with an acceptable result, in this case I had to recognise love as more than just the arbitrary subjective matter people usually make it out for, so that I could adequately explain why I disagree with you. And just in case, I should probably clarify that just because I believe love exists and makes sense, doesn't mean I necessarily have a deeper understanding of it than anyone else. All I'm saying is that it can be understood, whether partially or fully; and while understanding it fully might be too challenging for us still, if we had a thousand years to discover different people's love and think about it in depth, then I think we would be able to reach an adequate understanding even of love in its entirety. To say otherwise is to overly mystify the concept.

In a thousand years love will remain a complex mystifying thing and you will never be able to figure it out, because it's not 'real'. The things I'm telling you won't change in a thousand or two thousand years because they are laws of nature. Laws of nature have nothing to do with interpretation either. They just are and they will continue to be. But when humans shed the imperfect material nature of self in due time through the process of development, the notion of love as is prevalent currently will go away.

I understand where you're coming from but unfortunately its wrong . You're wrong about Logic and mathematics also. Mathethatics is not logic. And yet the application of Mathematics to solve problems is Logic. Logic is most certainly bound by limitations. If that were not so ,we would be currently living in a utopia. Mathematics was used by Astrophysicists to create a host of totally wrong assertions and assumptions (which exist to this day), because they were bound by the limitations of their material selves. And most people still are. Mathematics is used by people in a host of different sciences. And many of these sciences which appeared logical at that time were rejected after they were presented with contradictory evidence. For example it was logical for people to believe at one time that Earth was at the centre of the solar System. A lot of mathematics was used there too. But that logic was revised with new data. 'Logic' is a left brained notion which is born out of intellect ,a facet of Prakriti - Nature. In reality ,there is no such thing as 'Logic' in the Superconciousness reality of the Brahman. Things just are ,which is why its called 'truth'. There is no interpretation or debate about it. They are as they always were. And theres also no such thing as perfect logic because intellect is by its nature borne out of imperfection - through Prakriti.

Love is not an objective feeling nor is it permanent, perfect or universal. It cant be measured, or defined. It has no properties of an objective reality. You can't measure the overlaps. The only thing that you can measure are the individual emotions and that's not love. Those are transient feelings which go away in time. The only way to see love is by looking at the individual feelings associated with it. And that's your personal composition of love ,that too for a particular person. Meaning that person composition will change with regards to different people.

The statement "She doesn't feel love the same way you do" totally refutes all other matters to this issue. This is the true reality because Love itself is bound by the limited experience of our material reality. And material reality being defined as the division of Will and Nature (Shiva and Shakti) means that no one will ever be able to be same as the other person. And overlaps doesn't mean same. The only way to be one is through Tantra ,but that's beyond our material experience of reality and I wouldn't call it love. It can gain access to a perfect state of the higher reality where love doesn't exist.

Love is a concoction of the higher brain in the material realm of this world of an assorted mesh of emotions borne out of various needs. When these needs are met it creates of sense of 'being in love'. Its not universal and universal ,or of much importance.

And this is why I keep repeating this. If you strip the mystifying and confusing idealism out of it, you can start looking for a fine person for 'you'. And most people don't know themselves which is why they are so confused about everything in life. It's not a big deal. It's a normal experience of the material reality. The mastery of emotions and the will is paramount to any success in the path of Tantra. Without having handled the two ,you cannot move on to the more subtler aspects of it which necessitates control.

It might be more harder for people with more analytical minds because they are prone to analyzing and logically engaging themselves, while they try to meditate. You have to let go of logic and look at truth if you want to advance. Leave your previous self and undergo the little deaths that break apart your sense of self. Only after many such little deaths can you call yourself a Yogi who accepts truth for what it is.

I was bound by the limitations of my mind at one point but now with each new segment of information, I say "I don't know anything. " I don't let my ego get hurt if I'm proven wrong. Its just another building block for advancement. The more I discover things in meditation the more my preconceived notions are destroyed and it doesn't affect me as I'm used to it.

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