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Taurus

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What is the spiritual significance of someone being born with physical deformities? is it just negative energy and karma on their soul? take Joseph Merrick for example. why did he incarnate like this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Merrick
 
Doesn't matter, they need to be culled.
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Taurus said:
What is the spiritual significance of someone being born with physical deformities? is it just negative energy and karma on their soul? take Joseph Merrick for example. why did he incarnate like this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Merrick
Oh, yeah. I can remember him. It might have been pollutants in the water and not-decent-enough sanitation, medicines, maybe torture from previous life for example in jew medieval times, problems in parent's or parents' souls which coalesced as shit energies in his which manifested as deformities, mum's egg and/or dad's sperm might have been damaged...

Jack said:
Don't they deserve a chance to live a healthy life? One might say that you we once 'deformed' (when compared with Satan).
 
Jack said:
Doesn't matter, they need to be culled.
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Epic /pol/ post jack. now this thread will receive many replies full of drama to your post and avoid possibly learning what the spiritual significance is.
 
FancyMancy said:
Taurus said:
What is the spiritual significance of someone being born with physical deformities? is it just negative energy and karma on their soul? take Joseph Merrick for example. why did he incarnate like this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Merrick
Oh, yeah. I can remember him. It might have been pollutants in the water and not-decent-enough sanitation, medicines, maybe torture from previous life for example in jew medieval times, problems in parent's or parents' souls which coalesced as shit energies in his which manifested as deformities, mum's egg and/or dad's sperm might have been damaged...

Jack said:
Don't they deserve a chance to live a healthy life? One might say that you we once 'deformed' (when compared with Satan).



Yeah definitely, the thing about hereditary diseases are that they shouldn’t be passed on to future generations. Environmental factors and pollutants can cause sporadic deformities in only one generation or multiple though. There’s still a lot to be learned about genetic diseases. There’s no reason why someone with deformities shouldn’t live a happy life with the freedom to spiritually evolve if they chose. Whether or not they should have kids would depend on whether or not it’s hereditary.
 
FancyMancy said:
Taurus said:
What is the spiritual significance of someone being born with physical deformities? is it just negative energy and karma on their soul? take Joseph Merrick for example. why did he incarnate like this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Merrick
Oh, yeah. I can remember him. It might have been pollutants in the water and not-decent-enough sanitation, medicines, maybe torture from previous life for example in jew medieval times, problems in parent's or parents' souls which coalesced as shit energies in his which manifested as deformities, mum's egg and/or dad's sperm might have been damaged...

Jack said:
Don't they deserve a chance to live a healthy life? One might say that you we once 'deformed' (when compared with Satan).
No they deserve to die.
 
Jack said:
Doesn't matter, they need to be culled.
Eugenics-Poster-English-212x300.jpg

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I am not completely sure I agree with every case in what your saying. In some cases yes. It is also a humanitarian thing to do in much more serious cases since reincarnation is for real. But in some cases the person could be fine if they are taught how to better themselves and heal.
 
Taurus said:
Jack said:
Doesn't matter, they need to be culled.
Eugenics-Poster-English-212x300.jpg

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Epic /pol/ post jack. now this thread will receive many replies full of drama to your post and avoid possibly learning what the spiritual significance is.
Just as we clean the dirt from the soul, we need to clean the dirt from the Racial Soul (made up of all the individuals in a race.)

If we don't eliminate the hereditarily diseased, they may pass on those Gene's to the next generation. Its like an infection where a single wound starts infecting the entire body.

Why do many people suffer from various severe genetically inherited diseases, severe deformities, etc ? Their parents didn't have the required understanding to eliminate the suffering of a child.

It's not because of some moral reason that they allowed the diseased child to live. Because there is no moral reason. The child will suffer for their entire lives and they will pass on that suffering unto others.

The only reason why they allowed the child to suffer was because they are narcissistic and feel that the child is an extension of themselves. They cant see the child as an autonomous being who will go through enormous suffering and will pass on that enormous suffering onto others.

Cures for various diseases have been found and thus the Eugenics elimination list is getting shorter day by day. But there's still a lot of severe deformities and mental debilitation that hasn't been cured. Until we develop genetic engineering to the point that we can remove the regressive Gene's at will or insert good genes, we need to eliminate these people who are suffering. Either through Humane Abortion before birth, Euthanasia in case of severe debilitation or Sterilization in case the subject is not in a crippling condition but has other severe debilitated conditions and could transfer such Gene's to another.

I would wager the majority of diseases are inherited, and we could eliminate it all if we had selective Eugenics breeding.

The Main objection to all this is from the Christians who want every sick and diseased child to suffer and they revel in the little childs suffering. They absolutely enjoy watching others in pain which is why they recommend you suffer in various ways your entire life without reason.

The Christian's were the ones who objected to Eugenics at first and they are the ones who object to it now. This is also because Christianity's political arm Marxism believes they need sick and mentally unwell individuals whom they can solicit to revolt against the state.

This is what they call Biological Leninism. This is a marxist construct where they want the populace to be sick and diseased.

It's all a scam. People who aren't free from the Christian mind control believe in the false lie that everyone has a right to life.

No, everyone does not have the right to life. As a humane society we choose to free them from undue suffering and futility, and as a just society we should punish severe criminals with Capital punishment. The Christian's object to all of this because they are sick psychopaths who believe only in their own selfishness and narcissism and don't care about anyone's suffering.
 
slyscorpion said:
Jack said:
Doesn't matter, they need to be culled.
Eugenics-Poster-English-212x300.jpg

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I am not completely sure I agree with every case in what your saying. In some cases yes. It is also a humanitarian thing to do in much more serious cases since reincarnation is for real. But in some cases the person could be fine if they are taught how to better themselves and heal.
Obviously I mean in the severe cases where there's no cure and the conditions are severe ,like the condition the OP posted.
 
Taurus said:
What is the spiritual significance of someone being born with physical deformities? is it just negative energy and karma on their soul? take Joseph Merrick for example. why did he incarnate like this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Merrick

Can't believe this freak show stuff was ever allowed to happen or is even allowed to still go on. If that got in the news it would be the end of it. That is such a Jewish idea.

We really should end these peoples suffering not get enjoyment and amusement out of it.

I am with Jack on this but just wanted to say that I clicked the link.

How is it allowed for people to get enjoyment out of people's suffering like that.
 
Jack said:
Taurus said:
Jack said:
Doesn't matter, they need to be culled.
Eugenics-Poster-English-212x300.jpg

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Epic /pol/ post jack. now this thread will receive many replies full of drama to your post and avoid possibly learning what the spiritual significance is.
Just as we clean the dirt from the soul, we need to clean the dirt from the Racial Soul (made up of all the individuals in a race.)

If we don't eliminate the hereditarily diseased, they may pass on those Gene's to the next generation. Its like an infection where a single wound starts infecting the entire body.

Why do many people suffer from various severe genetically inherited diseases, severe deformities, etc ? Their parents didn't have the required understanding to eliminate the suffering of a child.

It's not because of some moral reason that they allowed the diseased child to live. Because there is no moral reason. The child will suffer for their entire lives and they will pass on that suffering unto others.

The only reason why they allowed the child to suffer was because they are narcissistic and feel that the child is an extension of themselves. They cant see the child as an autonomous being who will go through enormous suffering and will pass on that enormous suffering onto others.

Cures for various diseases have been found and thus the Eugenics elimination list is getting shorter day by day. But there's still a lot of severe deformities and mental debilitation that hasn't been cured. Until we develop genetic engineering to the point that we can remove the regressive Gene's at will or insert good genes, we need to eliminate these people who are suffering. Either through Humane Abortion before birth, Euthanasia in case of severe debilitation or Sterilization in case the subject is not in a crippling condition but has other severe debilitated conditions and could transfer such Gene's to another.

I would wager the majority of diseases are inherited, and we could eliminate it all if we had selective Eugenics breeding.

The Main objection to all this is from the Christians who want every sick and diseased child to suffer and they revel in the little childs suffering. They absolutely enjoy watching others in pain which is why they recommend you suffer in various ways your entire life without reason.

The Christian's were the ones who objected to Eugenics at first and they are the ones who object to it now. This is also because Christianity's political arm Marxism believes they need sick and mentally unwell individuals whom they can solicit to revolt against the state.

This is what they call Biological Leninism. This is a marxist construct where they want the populace to be sick and diseased.

It's all a scam. People who aren't free from the Christian mind control believe in the false lie that everyone has a right to life.

No, everyone does not have the right to life. As a humane society we choose to free them from undue suffering and futility, and as a just society we should punish severe criminals with Capital punishment. The Christian's object to all of this because they are sick psychopaths who believe only in their own selfishness and narcissism and don't care about anyone's suffering.



The practice of eugenics is not as straight forward and cut as simply killing off everyone with a deformity. Not all deformities or genetic mishaps are hereditary and many are due to the kikes pollution of the environment. Due to the nature of what’s happening with the jews to our people, I don’t think every single misshapen gentile should be killed off. Especially if someone wishes to advance and be a Satanist. I use to be be very rigid with the eugenics idea as well, and not breeding specific hereditary things are a must. But, there are a LOT of people (millions and millions) with genetic issues that range from minor to severe due to jewish infiltration. It can manifest in a variety of ways, like illness to minor deformities. This is different from the mentally handicapped who are put on a pedestal by ill-minded people. Abortion is one thing but euthanizing a gentile who functions just fine in society seems like something the jews would push vehemently if they were to “abide by eugenics” jews take everything to extremes. Which is what they painted eugenics out to be in order to convince society that eugenics is an evil practice.
 
Jack said:
FancyMancy said:
Taurus said:
What is the spiritual significance of someone being born with physical deformities? is it just negative energy and karma on their soul? take Joseph Merrick for example. why did he incarnate like this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Merrick
Oh, yeah. I can remember him. It might have been pollutants in the water and not-decent-enough sanitation, medicines, maybe torture from previous life for example in jew medieval times, problems in parent's or parents' souls which coalesced as shit energies in his which manifested as deformities, mum's egg and/or dad's sperm might have been damaged...

Jack said:
Don't they deserve a chance to live a healthy life? One might say that you we once 'deformed' (when compared with Satan).
No they deserve to die.
Why? Did you deserve to die when you were not born Satan in the flesh?
 
He's right. The seriously disabled serve no purpose other than to burden those around them. Can they even be called human? Humans can do basic tasks on their own and solve problems, also every normal human is capable of advancing their soul and having spiritual connections, these things aren't.

The NS doctrine regarding the disabled is that of "useless eaters' because it is true. Like Jack mentioned above it is the Judeo-Marxist way of worshiping weakness and everything that is ugly and backwards, In other words, slave morality.
 
To respond to the OP's question, astrologically all I can say is that nearly every case of innate severe physical deformities or extreme issues like Down Syndrome I see, there are often really horrific degrees and stars associated with violence on the angles (Ascendant, Imum Coeli, Descendant, Midheaven). Especially 15 and 25 degrees Leo/Aquarius. That doesn't mean everyone with those malefic things on their angles are born with disability (sometimes they are normal but have alcoholism, awful relationships, bad background or something) but there is a trend there.

Plus bad angles in cases of severe disability it is very common for the Sun to combust other planets (especially the Chart Ruler), the Chart Ruler being on a bad degree, and Saturn and the outer planets residing on those angles. Pluto (has something to do with the lips in tandem with Mars) being in close proximity to angles on bad degrees tends to implicate Cleft Palate issues, for example.

Things like Saturn in 3rd tend to denote more minor issues than that like a stutter unless the rest of the chart is really bad.

In any case I wonder about the connection of extreme violence and disability because of things like this showing up in charts. Probably it has something to do with slavery and lives going on a downward trend, but maybe these people have been born disabled over and over for a while.
 
Sundara said:
Jack said:
Taurus said:
Epic /pol/ post jack. now this thread will receive many replies full of drama to your post and avoid possibly learning what the spiritual significance is.
Just as we clean the dirt from the soul, we need to clean the dirt from the Racial Soul (made up of all the individuals in a race.)

If we don't eliminate the hereditarily diseased, they may pass on those Gene's to the next generation. Its like an infection where a single wound starts infecting the entire body.

Why do many people suffer from various severe genetically inherited diseases, severe deformities, etc ? Their parents didn't have the required understanding to eliminate the suffering of a child.

It's not because of some moral reason that they allowed the diseased child to live. Because there is no moral reason. The child will suffer for their entire lives and they will pass on that suffering unto others.

The only reason why they allowed the child to suffer was because they are narcissistic and feel that the child is an extension of themselves. They cant see the child as an autonomous being who will go through enormous suffering and will pass on that enormous suffering onto others.

Cures for various diseases have been found and thus the Eugenics elimination list is getting shorter day by day. But there's still a lot of severe deformities and mental debilitation that hasn't been cured. Until we develop genetic engineering to the point that we can remove the regressive Gene's at will or insert good genes, we need to eliminate these people who are suffering. Either through Humane Abortion before birth, Euthanasia in case of severe debilitation or Sterilization in case the subject is not in a crippling condition but has other severe debilitated conditions and could transfer such Gene's to another.

I would wager the majority of diseases are inherited, and we could eliminate it all if we had selective Eugenics breeding.

The Main objection to all this is from the Christians who want every sick and diseased child to suffer and they revel in the little childs suffering. They absolutely enjoy watching others in pain which is why they recommend you suffer in various ways your entire life without reason.

The Christian's were the ones who objected to Eugenics at first and they are the ones who object to it now. This is also because Christianity's political arm Marxism believes they need sick and mentally unwell individuals whom they can solicit to revolt against the state.

This is what they call Biological Leninism. This is a marxist construct where they want the populace to be sick and diseased.

It's all a scam. People who aren't free from the Christian mind control believe in the false lie that everyone has a right to life.

No, everyone does not have the right to life. As a humane society we choose to free them from undue suffering and futility, and as a just society we should punish severe criminals with Capital punishment. The Christian's object to all of this because they are sick psychopaths who believe only in their own selfishness and narcissism and don't care about anyone's suffering.



The practice of eugenics is not as straight forward and cut as simply killing off everyone with a deformity. Not all deformities or genetic mishaps are hereditary and many are due to the kikes pollution of the environment. Due to the nature of what’s happening with the jews to our people, I don’t think every single misshapen gentile should be killed off. Especially if someone wishes to advance and be a Satanist. I use to be be very rigid with the eugenics idea as well, and not breeding specific hereditary things are a must. But, there are a LOT of people (millions and millions) with genetic issues that range from minor to severe due to jewish infiltration. It can manifest in a variety of ways, like illness to minor deformities. This is different from the mentally handicapped who are put on a pedestal by ill-minded people. Abortion is one thing but euthanizing a gentile who functions just fine in society seems like something the jews would push vehemently if they were to “abide by eugenics” jews take everything to extremes. Which is what they painted eugenics out to be in order to convince society that eugenics is an evil practice.
I'm talking about very serious debilitating conditions, not simple ones.
 
FancyMancy said:
Jack said:
FancyMancy said:
Oh, yeah. I can remember him. It might have been pollutants in the water and not-decent-enough sanitation, medicines, maybe torture from previous life for example in jew medieval times, problems in parent's or parents' souls which coalesced as shit energies in his which manifested as deformities, mum's egg and/or dad's sperm might have been damaged...


Don't they deserve a chance to live a healthy life? One might say that you we once 'deformed' (when compared with Satan).
No they deserve to die.
Why? Did you deserve to die when you were not born Satan in the flesh?
I was Born with Satan in the flesh at birth. But the question of why certain people deserve to die has nothing to do with Satan or Christ.

It's a Eugenics operation of improving humanity in a humane way. No one has a right to life. That is given to you by the society you live in. Because as part of society you will contribute to it in some capacity.

If you're confused about all this and don't understand National Socialism and American Eugenics, you should check the FourthReich Archive where there were a load of books on this very important subject that will clear your mind of the Christian Morality.
 
Jack said:
Taurus said:
Jack said:
Doesn't matter, they need to be culled.
Eugenics-Poster-English-212x300.jpg

Picture1-15.png
Epic /pol/ post jack. now this thread will receive many replies full of drama to your post and avoid possibly learning what the spiritual significance is.
Just as we clean the dirt from the soul, we need to clean the dirt from the Racial Soul (made up of all the individuals in a race.)

If we don't eliminate the hereditarily diseased, they may pass on those Gene's to the next generation. Its like an infection where a single wound starts infecting the entire body.

Why do many people suffer from various severe genetically inherited diseases, severe deformities, etc ? Their parents didn't have the required understanding to eliminate the suffering of a child.

It's not because of some moral reason that they allowed the diseased child to live. Because there is no moral reason. The child will suffer for their entire lives and they will pass on that suffering unto others.

The only reason why they allowed the child to suffer was because they are narcissistic and feel that the child is an extension of themselves. They cant see the child as an autonomous being who will go through enormous suffering and will pass on that enormous suffering onto others.

Cures for various diseases have been found and thus the Eugenics elimination list is getting shorter day by day. But there's still a lot of severe deformities and mental debilitation that hasn't been cured. Until we develop genetic engineering to the point that we can remove the regressive Gene's at will or insert good genes, we need to eliminate these people who are suffering. Either through Humane Abortion before birth, Euthanasia in case of severe debilitation or Sterilization in case the subject is not in a crippling condition but has other severe debilitated conditions and could transfer such Gene's to another.

I would wager the majority of diseases are inherited, and we could eliminate it all if we had selective Eugenics breeding.

The Main objection to all this is from the Christians who want every sick and diseased child to suffer and they revel in the little childs suffering. They absolutely enjoy watching others in pain which is why they recommend you suffer in various ways your entire life without reason.

The Christian's were the ones who objected to Eugenics at first and they are the ones who object to it now. This is also because Christianity's political arm Marxism believes they need sick and mentally unwell individuals whom they can solicit to revolt against the state.

This is what they call Biological Leninism. This is a marxist construct where they want the populace to be sick and diseased.

It's all a scam. People who aren't free from the Christian mind control believe in the false lie that everyone has a right to life.

No, everyone does not have the right to life. As a humane society we choose to free them from undue suffering and futility, and as a just society we should punish severe criminals with Capital punishment. The Christian's object to all of this because they are sick psychopaths who believe only in their own selfishness and narcissism and don't care about anyone's suffering.
This is actually beauty. I especially like the moral aspect of your argument, I think it shows the highest level that your opponents cannot argue against. Are you an author, by any chance? Care to DM me some of your works, so I can see if I can buy them and support you?

I only have one question to ask: While those who are less-than-worthy must be sterilized and euthanized for obvious reasons as you've stated, what about certain "exceptions", where within reasonable limit, someone may choose to "brave" these deformities and live life, provided that they are totally sterilized, without any future chances of reproductive ability? Obviously they can choose euthanasia at any time and this will be given, as is humanitarian.
 
SouthernWhiteGentile said:
He's right. The seriously disabled serve no purpose other than to burden those around them. Can they even be called human? Humans can do basic tasks on their own and solve problems, also every normal human is capable of advancing their soul and having spiritual connections, these things aren't.
Oh, you've observed each and every one of them in longitudinal studies and have masses of data on them, I expect with Jack also doing the research. I didn't realise that. I suppose this research also supercedes Satan's words - "...to better Yourself and the Universe", as well.

The NS doctrine regarding the disabled is that of "useless eaters' because it is true. Like Jack mentioned above it is the Judeo-Marxist way of worshiping weakness and everything that is ugly and backwards, In other words, slave morality.
For those who try to heal themselves - are they also included, or are you (and presumably Jack also) referring only to those lazy and apathetic ones who are a drain and contribute nothing?
 
FancyMancy said:
Why? Did you deserve to die when you were not born Satan in the flesh?

Wouldn't that be virtually everybody?

He's talking about killing off the incredibly disformed so if and when they reincarnate, there's little to no chance of it happening again. The idea behind eugenics is to mitigate any chance of serious deformation or inheritable diseases from manifesting in the first place.
 
FancyMancy said:
SouthernWhiteGentile said:
He's right. The seriously disabled serve no purpose other than to burden those around them. Can they even be called human? Humans can do basic tasks on their own and solve problems, also every normal human is capable of advancing their soul and having spiritual connections, these things aren't.
Oh, you've observed each and every one of them in longitudinal studies and have masses of data on them, I expect with Jack also doing the research. I didn't realise that. I suppose this research also supercedes Satan's words - "...to better Yourself and the Universe", as well.

The NS doctrine regarding the disabled is that of "useless eaters' because it is true. Like Jack mentioned above it is the Judeo-Marxist way of worshiping weakness and everything that is ugly and backwards, In other words, slave morality.
For those who try to heal themselves - are they also included, or are you (and presumably Jack also) referring only to those lazy and apathetic ones who are a drain and contribute nothing?
Our Father backs Eugenics just like he did in the ancient world. He was the one who gave us this ancient humane science.
 
OhSaalo said:
Jack said:
Taurus said:
Epic /pol/ post jack. now this thread will receive many replies full of drama to your post and avoid possibly learning what the spiritual significance is.
Just as we clean the dirt from the soul, we need to clean the dirt from the Racial Soul (made up of all the individuals in a race.)

If we don't eliminate the hereditarily diseased, they may pass on those Gene's to the next generation. Its like an infection where a single wound starts infecting the entire body.

Why do many people suffer from various severe genetically inherited diseases, severe deformities, etc ? Their parents didn't have the required understanding to eliminate the suffering of a child.

It's not because of some moral reason that they allowed the diseased child to live. Because there is no moral reason. The child will suffer for their entire lives and they will pass on that suffering unto others.

The only reason why they allowed the child to suffer was because they are narcissistic and feel that the child is an extension of themselves. They cant see the child as an autonomous being who will go through enormous suffering and will pass on that enormous suffering onto others.

Cures for various diseases have been found and thus the Eugenics elimination list is getting shorter day by day. But there's still a lot of severe deformities and mental debilitation that hasn't been cured. Until we develop genetic engineering to the point that we can remove the regressive Gene's at will or insert good genes, we need to eliminate these people who are suffering. Either through Humane Abortion before birth, Euthanasia in case of severe debilitation or Sterilization in case the subject is not in a crippling condition but has other severe debilitated conditions and could transfer such Gene's to another.

I would wager the majority of diseases are inherited, and we could eliminate it all if we had selective Eugenics breeding.

The Main objection to all this is from the Christians who want every sick and diseased child to suffer and they revel in the little childs suffering. They absolutely enjoy watching others in pain which is why they recommend you suffer in various ways your entire life without reason.

The Christian's were the ones who objected to Eugenics at first and they are the ones who object to it now. This is also because Christianity's political arm Marxism believes they need sick and mentally unwell individuals whom they can solicit to revolt against the state.

This is what they call Biological Leninism. This is a marxist construct where they want the populace to be sick and diseased.

It's all a scam. People who aren't free from the Christian mind control believe in the false lie that everyone has a right to life.

No, everyone does not have the right to life. As a humane society we choose to free them from undue suffering and futility, and as a just society we should punish severe criminals with Capital punishment. The Christian's object to all of this because they are sick psychopaths who believe only in their own selfishness and narcissism and don't care about anyone's suffering.
This is actually beauty. I especially like the moral aspect of your argument, I think it shows the highest level that your opponents cannot argue against. Are you an author, by any chance? Care to DM me some of your works, so I can see if I can buy them and support you?

I only have one question to ask: While those who are less-than-worthy must be sterilized and euthanized for obvious reasons as you've stated, what about certain "exceptions", where within reasonable limit, someone may choose to "brave" these deformities and live life, provided that they are totally sterilized, without any future chances of reproductive ability? Obviously they can choose euthanasia at any time and this will be given, as is humanitarian.
Yes, we might simply sterilize them if they have the capacity to function normally. Euthanasia is for people who are terminally incapacitated or in grave suffering, being severely deformed with no chance of recovery or a cure.
 
FancyMancy said:
I suppose this research also supercedes Satan's words - "...to better Yourself and the Universe", as well.

Wouldn’t you agree that it is bettering the earth by cleaning it? If someone is physically disabled but has a normal mind than they should be left alone and if they want to do good things than great, but they obviously shouldn’t reproduce.

FancyMancy said:
For those who try to heal themselves - are they also included, or are you (and presumably Jack also) referring only to those lazy and apathetic ones who are a drain and contribute nothing?

I think we have a different idea of what disabled is. I’m not talking about someone that is slightly autistic or something (which isn’t genetic anyway). I’m talking more about people with shocking hereditary or other diseases like the one mentioned above. Or a grown person that has the mental capacity of a child, their mother has to slave away for her entire to take care of it. Wouldn’t it be better to just do what is done in ancient times and get rid of disabled babies before/right after birth? It is the humane thing to do but Christian/Slave morality would like you to think the opposite.
 
ShadowTheRaven said:
FancyMancy said:
Why? Did you deserve to die when you were not born Satan in the flesh?

Wouldn't that be virtually everybody?

He's talking about killing off the incredibly disformed so if and when they reincarnate, there's little to no chance of it happening again. The idea behind eugenics is to mitigate any chance of serious deformation or inheritable diseases from manifesting in the first place.
If a Body and/or Mind is malformed seriously, then that would also include something major in their soul; the Mind, Body and Soul all affect each other. Killing a very disabled/malformed person means it is hardly likely that they would reincarnate so as to be able to have Science fix them next time.

Jack said:
FancyMancy said:
SouthernWhiteGentile said:
He's right. The seriously disabled serve no purpose other than to burden those around them. Can they even be called human? Humans can do basic tasks on their own and solve problems, also every normal human is capable of advancing their soul and having spiritual connections, these things aren't.
Oh, you've observed each and every one of them in longitudinal studies and have masses of data on them, I expect with Jack also doing the research. I didn't realise that. I suppose this research also supercedes Satan's words - "...to better Yourself and the Universe", as well.

The NS doctrine regarding the disabled is that of "useless eaters' because it is true. Like Jack mentioned above it is the Judeo-Marxist way of worshiping weakness and everything that is ugly and backwards, In other words, slave morality.
For those who try to heal themselves - are they also included, or are you (and presumably Jack also) referring only to those lazy and apathetic ones who are a drain and contribute nothing?
Our Father backs Eugenics just like he did in the ancient world. He was the one who gave us this ancient humane science.
He also wants us to be improved and strong and healthy.

SouthernWhiteGentile said:
FancyMancy said:
I suppose this research also supercedes Satan's words - "...to better Yourself and the Universe", as well.

Wouldn’t you agree that it is bettering the earth by cleaning it? If someone is physically disabled but has a normal mind than they should be left alone and if they want to do good things than great, but they obviously shouldn’t reproduce.
They should be given a chance. If they refuse, then they can die and dissipate if not reincarnate (only possibly) to have another chance in a future life. Of course, by the time eugenics is made un-illegal (because you know what (((laws))) will be like), in the time when disabled Children are born before that and live while it is legal and practiced properly, those disabled and malformed should - and if eugenics exists and is practiced properly, it would be a NS society; therefore will - be given the chance for improvement, unless Godly intervention happens to have them reincarnate into a healthy Body.

FancyMancy said:
For those who try to heal themselves - are they also included, or are you (and presumably Jack also) referring only to those lazy and apathetic ones who are a drain and contribute nothing?

I think we have a different idea of what disabled is. I’m not talking about someone that is slightly autistic or something (which isn’t genetic anyway). I’m talking more about people with shocking hereditary or other diseases like the one mentioned above. Or a grown person that has the mental capacity of a child, their mother has to slave away for her entire to take care of it. Wouldn’t it be better to just do what is done in ancient times and get rid of disabled babies before/right after birth? It is the humane thing to do but Christian/Slave morality would like you to think the opposite.
If the Soul can reincarnate into a healthy Body, then I would say so, yes. That would require Godly intervention, because we cannot, as of yet, determine if, nor how to, make sure a Soul would be reincarnated into a healthy Body. If the Body/Mind was fucked-up, I would say that the person should be given the chance and offered eugenics, or at least Spirituality for self-healing which more likely than not would include others also doing healing. Just throwing them away like a piece of rubbish is very humane, respectful, caring, etc., isn't it? That is very Gentle/Gentile, obviously.
 
FancyMancy said:
ShadowTheRaven said:
FancyMancy said:
Why? Did you deserve to die when you were not born Satan in the flesh?

Wouldn't that be virtually everybody?

He's talking about killing off the incredibly disformed so if and when they reincarnate, there's little to no chance of it happening again. The idea behind eugenics is to mitigate any chance of serious deformation or inheritable diseases from manifesting in the first place.
If a Body and/or Mind is malformed seriously, then that would also include something major in their soul; the Mind, Body and Soul all affect each other. Killing a very disabled/malformed person means it is hardly likely that they would reincarnate so as to be able to have Science fix them next time.

Jack said:
FancyMancy said:
Oh, you've observed each and every one of them in longitudinal studies and have masses of data on them, I expect with Jack also doing the research. I didn't realise that. I suppose this research also supercedes Satan's words - "...to better Yourself and the Universe", as well.


For those who try to heal themselves - are they also included, or are you (and presumably Jack also) referring only to those lazy and apathetic ones who are a drain and contribute nothing?
Our Father backs Eugenics just like he did in the ancient world. He was the one who gave us this ancient humane science.
He also wants us to be improved and strong and healthy.

SouthernWhiteGentile said:
FancyMancy said:
I suppose this research also supercedes Satan's words - "...to better Yourself and the Universe", as well.

Wouldn’t you agree that it is bettering the earth by cleaning it? If someone is physically disabled but has a normal mind than they should be left alone and if they want to do good things than great, but they obviously shouldn’t reproduce.
They should be given a chance. If they refuse, then they can die and dissipate if not reincarnate (only possibly) to have another chance in a future life. Of course, by the time eugenics is made un-illegal (because you know what (((laws))) will be like), in the time when disabled Children are born before that and live while it is legal and practiced properly, those disabled and malformed should - and if eugenics exists and is practiced properly, it would be a NS society; therefore will - be given the chance for improvement, unless Godly intervention happens to have them reincarnate into a healthy Body.

FancyMancy said:
For those who try to heal themselves - are they also included, or are you (and presumably Jack also) referring only to those lazy and apathetic ones who are a drain and contribute nothing?

I think we have a different idea of what disabled is. I’m not talking about someone that is slightly autistic or something (which isn’t genetic anyway). I’m talking more about people with shocking hereditary or other diseases like the one mentioned above. Or a grown person that has the mental capacity of a child, their mother has to slave away for her entire to take care of it. Wouldn’t it be better to just do what is done in ancient times and get rid of disabled babies before/right after birth? It is the humane thing to do but Christian/Slave morality would like you to think the opposite.
If the Soul can reincarnate into a healthy Body, then I would say so, yes. That would require Godly intervention, because we cannot, as of yet, determine if, nor how to, make sure a Soul would be reincarnated into a healthy Body. If the Body/Mind was fucked-up, I would say that the person should be given the chance and offered eugenics, or at least Spirituality for self-healing which more likely than not would include others also doing healing. Just throwing them away like a piece of rubbish is very humane, respectful, caring, etc., isn't it? That is very Gentle/Gentile, obviously.
The only way to be strong is through applied Eugenics. Our Father spearheaded this agenda all over Europe,America and Nazi Germany in the last century.

It was the Jews who robbed us of this science.
 
ShadowTheRaven said:
FancyMancy said:
Why? Did you deserve to die when you were not born Satan in the flesh?

Wouldn't that be virtually everybody?
Yeah, exactly. It just seemed like while we're all like that, those who are worse and lesser than us are just thrown away - I am just being cautious in case it is not guaranteed that the Soul could reincarnate into a decent Body.


Jack said:
FancyMancy said:
ShadowTheRaven said:
Wouldn't that be virtually everybody?

He's talking about killing off the incredibly disformed so if and when they reincarnate, there's little to no chance of it happening again. The idea behind eugenics is to mitigate any chance of serious deformation or inheritable diseases from manifesting in the first place.
If a Body and/or Mind is malformed seriously, then that would also include something major in their soul; the Mind, Body and Soul all affect each other. Killing a very disabled/malformed person means it is hardly likely that they would reincarnate so as to be able to have Science fix them next time.

Jack said:
Our Father backs Eugenics just like he did in the ancient world. He was the one who gave us this ancient humane science.
He also wants us to be improved and strong and healthy.

SouthernWhiteGentile said:
Wouldn’t you agree that it is bettering the earth by cleaning it? If someone is physically disabled but has a normal mind than they should be left alone and if they want to do good things than great, but they obviously shouldn’t reproduce.
They should be given a chance. If they refuse, then they can die and dissipate if not reincarnate (only possibly) to have another chance in a future life. Of course, by the time eugenics is made un-illegal (because you know what (((laws))) will be like), in the time when disabled Children are born before that and live while it is legal and practiced properly, those disabled and malformed should - and if eugenics exists and is practiced properly, it would be a NS society; therefore will - be given the chance for improvement, unless Godly intervention happens to have them reincarnate into a healthy Body.

I think we have a different idea of what disabled is. I’m not talking about someone that is slightly autistic or something (which isn’t genetic anyway). I’m talking more about people with shocking hereditary or other diseases like the one mentioned above. Or a grown person that has the mental capacity of a child, their mother has to slave away for her entire to take care of it. Wouldn’t it be better to just do what is done in ancient times and get rid of disabled babies before/right after birth? It is the humane thing to do but Christian/Slave morality would like you to think the opposite.
If the Soul can reincarnate into a healthy Body, then I would say so, yes. That would require Godly intervention, because we cannot, as of yet, determine if, nor how to, make sure a Soul would be reincarnated into a healthy Body. If the Body/Mind was fucked-up, I would say that the person should be given the chance and offered eugenics, or at least Spirituality for self-healing which more likely than not would include others also doing healing. Just throwing them away like a piece of rubbish is very humane, respectful, caring, etc., isn't it? That is very Gentle/Gentile, obviously.
The only way to be strong is through applied Eugenics. Our Father spearheaded this agenda all over Europe,America and Nazi Germany in the last century.

It was the Jews who robbed us of this science.

Oh, yeah. I just think in the meantime, until it all goes properly and safely in a NS/SS World, unless it can be guaranteed that the Soul could reincarnate into a decent Body, then the person should be given a chance.
 
Jack said:
OhSaalo said:
Jack said:
Just as we clean the dirt from the soul, we need to clean the dirt from the Racial Soul (made up of all the individuals in a race.)

If we don't eliminate the hereditarily diseased, they may pass on those Gene's to the next generation. Its like an infection where a single wound starts infecting the entire body.

Why do many people suffer from various severe genetically inherited diseases, severe deformities, etc ? Their parents didn't have the required understanding to eliminate the suffering of a child.

It's not because of some moral reason that they allowed the diseased child to live. Because there is no moral reason. The child will suffer for their entire lives and they will pass on that suffering unto others.

The only reason why they allowed the child to suffer was because they are narcissistic and feel that the child is an extension of themselves. They cant see the child as an autonomous being who will go through enormous suffering and will pass on that enormous suffering onto others.

Cures for various diseases have been found and thus the Eugenics elimination list is getting shorter day by day. But there's still a lot of severe deformities and mental debilitation that hasn't been cured. Until we develop genetic engineering to the point that we can remove the regressive Gene's at will or insert good genes, we need to eliminate these people who are suffering. Either through Humane Abortion before birth, Euthanasia in case of severe debilitation or Sterilization in case the subject is not in a crippling condition but has other severe debilitated conditions and could transfer such Gene's to another.

I would wager the majority of diseases are inherited, and we could eliminate it all if we had selective Eugenics breeding.

The Main objection to all this is from the Christians who want every sick and diseased child to suffer and they revel in the little childs suffering. They absolutely enjoy watching others in pain which is why they recommend you suffer in various ways your entire life without reason.

The Christian's were the ones who objected to Eugenics at first and they are the ones who object to it now. This is also because Christianity's political arm Marxism believes they need sick and mentally unwell individuals whom they can solicit to revolt against the state.

This is what they call Biological Leninism. This is a marxist construct where they want the populace to be sick and diseased.

It's all a scam. People who aren't free from the Christian mind control believe in the false lie that everyone has a right to life.

No, everyone does not have the right to life. As a humane society we choose to free them from undue suffering and futility, and as a just society we should punish severe criminals with Capital punishment. The Christian's object to all of this because they are sick psychopaths who believe only in their own selfishness and narcissism and don't care about anyone's suffering.
This is actually beauty. I especially like the moral aspect of your argument, I think it shows the highest level that your opponents cannot argue against. Are you an author, by any chance? Care to DM me some of your works, so I can see if I can buy them and support you?

I only have one question to ask: While those who are less-than-worthy must be sterilized and euthanized for obvious reasons as you've stated, what about certain "exceptions", where within reasonable limit, someone may choose to "brave" these deformities and live life, provided that they are totally sterilized, without any future chances of reproductive ability? Obviously they can choose euthanasia at any time and this will be given, as is humanitarian.
Yes, we might simply sterilize them if they have the capacity to function normally. Euthanasia is for people who are terminally incapacitated or in grave suffering, being severely deformed with no chance of recovery or a cure.
Brilliant. I love it. This is truly beautiful.

I have no words for the beauty of it. You are amazing.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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