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Is It a problem if a use the fire element to power up my solar chakra, will it create an imbalance with my element's? I used It and is really powerful and i only did 40 vibrations of It..

Nope its not a problem from when I've done it, as a matter of fact I've noticed it helps other chakras with the increase of energy flowing.
Just don't overdo it, there was a day I've done too much and couldn't for the life of me find any sleep, I had to disperse the energy somehow. Which in that case, I did some RTRs at 4 - 5 in the morning lol.

Also I've always noticed you ask a LOT of questions, have you ever done any thinking for yourself?

Zygisrko wrote:Nope its not a problem from when I've done it, as a matter of fact I've noticed it helps other chakras with the increase of energy flowing.
Just don't overdo it, there was a day I've done too much and couldn't for the life of me find any sleep, I had to disperse the energy somehow. Which in that case, I did some RTRs at 4 - 5 in the morning lol.

Well first thanks for this!

Zygisrko wrote:Also I've always noticed you ask a LOT of questions, have you ever done any thinking for yourself?

And thats rude...of course i do think for my self! And where did you see me posting a lot of questions? Is learning so bad? There are people here that are more experienced here so i don't see why is bad to ask...i've done a lot of things without asking but on certain things i just want to be sure. Shouldn't we help each other out?

Zygisrko wrote:Nope its not a problem from when I've done it, as a matter of fact I've noticed it helps other chakras with the increase of energy flowing.
Just don't overdo it, there was a day I've done too much and couldn't for the life of me find any sleep, I had to disperse the energy somehow. Which in that case, I did some RTRs at 4 - 5 in the morning lol.

By the way i want to add that i did ask if It Will create a imbalance in my element's not in my chakra, actualy thats why i wanted to start a working on my solar chakra because It will help power up my soul more with 'less' time and without imbalance in my chakras. I know that you didn't want to came off as rude and you are half right, sometime i just want to hear other opinions and sometime i'm just insecure, but like i said is It really that bad to ask? I mean these are not newbey questions and so i just don't want to create a huge imbalance in my element's...

luis wrote:Is It a problem if a use the fire element to power up my solar chakra, will it create an imbalance with my element's? I used It and is really powerful and i only did 40 vibrations of It..

Hey there no it shouldn't it'll strengthen an empower ur chakra if u making sure u concentrating it into the solar plexus and if u use suryae say 10 times into the chakra then use fire element it'll amplifie an strengthen it and could possibly leave u with a warm glow wich is positive as the solar plexus is the seat of the soul and power so u will b adding power to ur soul so to speak hope this helped

luis wrote:

Zygisrko wrote:Nope its not a problem from when I've done it, as a matter of fact I've noticed it helps other chakras with the increase of energy flowing.
Just don't overdo it, there was a day I've done too much and couldn't for the life of me find any sleep, I had to disperse the energy somehow. Which in that case, I did some RTRs at 4 - 5 in the morning lol.

Well first thanks for this!

Zygisrko wrote:Also I've always noticed you ask a LOT of questions, have you ever done any thinking for yourself?

And thats rude...of course i do think for my self! And where did you see me posting a lot of questions? Is learning so bad? There are people here that are more experienced here so i don't see why is bad to ask...i've done a lot of things without asking but on certain things i just want to be sure. Shouldn't we help each other out?

Asking questions is not bad, don't take it personally, he was just asking you honestly. Sometimes it is good to look within yourself and try to find the answer, I find myself wanting to ask a lot of questions on the group as well, but most often times you can just learn from experience or ask yourself these questions, and you will undeniably figure them out. Doing this makes you more independent mentally, and less prone to being given misinformation.

And also, I figure I may provide some information regarding the elements as well. I invoke each of the different elements into my chakras in a given meditation (Crown-Water, 6th-Ether, Throat- Air, Heart- Fire & Air, Solar- Fire, Sacral- Earth&Water, Base-Fire). This can be really powerful if done in one single meditation, and it is done as if you are doing the Condensing the elements meditation on JoS. But in my experience, I tend to feel more of the physical effects of the elements after doing this rather than the emotional, or mental effects of them. Such as getting really hot or cold, or light or heavy. But it is really powerful, and it feels as if doing dozens of vibrations in only a few breaths.

luis wrote:

Zygisrko wrote:Also I've always noticed you ask a LOT of questions, have you ever done any thinking for yourself?

And thats rude...of course i do think for my self! And where did you see me posting a lot of questions? Is learning so bad? There are people here that are more experienced here so i don't see why is bad to ask...i've done a lot of things without asking but on certain things i just want to be sure. Shouldn't we help each other out?

My apologies, I might have mistaken you for someone else.

Zygisrko wrote:

luis wrote:

Zygisrko wrote:Also I've always noticed you ask a LOT of questions, have you ever done any thinking for yourself?

And thats rude...of course i do think for my self! And where did you see me posting a lot of questions? Is learning so bad? There are people here that are more experienced here so i don't see why is bad to ask...i've done a lot of things without asking but on certain things i just want to be sure. Shouldn't we help each other out?

My apologies, I might have mistaken you for someone else.

Oh do not worry. Sorry i taked that so bad

Sacred_Practice9 wrote:

luis wrote:

Zygisrko wrote:Nope its not a problem from when I've done it, as a matter of fact I've noticed it helps other chakras with the increase of energy flowing.
Just don't overdo it, there was a day I've done too much and couldn't for the life of me find any sleep, I had to disperse the energy somehow. Which in that case, I did some RTRs at 4 - 5 in the morning lol.

Well first thanks for this!

Zygisrko wrote:Also I've always noticed you ask a LOT of questions, have you ever done any thinking for yourself?

And thats rude...of course i do think for my self! And where did you see me posting a lot of questions? Is learning so bad? There are people here that are more experienced here so i don't see why is bad to ask...i've done a lot of things without asking but on certain things i just want to be sure. Shouldn't we help each other out?

Asking questions is not bad, don't take it personally, he was just asking you honestly. Sometimes it is good to look within yourself and try to find the answer, I find myself wanting to ask a lot of questions on the group as well, but most often times you can just learn from experience or ask yourself these questions, and you will undeniably figure them out. Doing this makes you more independent mentally, and less prone to being given misinformation.

And also, I figure I may provide some information regarding the elements as well. I invoke each of the different elements into my chakras in a given meditation (Crown-Water, 6th-Ether, Throat- Air, Heart- Fire & Air, Solar- Fire, Sacral- Earth&Water, Base-Fire). This can be really powerful if done in one single meditation, and it is done as if you are doing the Condensing the elements meditation on JoS. But in my experience, I tend to feel more of the physical effects of the elements after doing this rather than the emotional, or mental effects of them. Such as getting really hot or cold, or light or heavy. But it is really powerful, and it feels as if doing dozens of vibrations in only a few breaths.

Yeah but i know myself and i'm being honest that i try a lot of things alone and when i post questions here is when i can't find the answer alone..(by the way he apologized because It was a mistake, so it's fine) and thanks!
I want to add here that it's now some months that i'm trying the combination Akasha+Satanas (and not just breath of Akasha but vibration) and this really power up the spells that i do! And i belive that i can use this to advance spirituality more 'faster', i'll make a post posting my results with this when i've finished to test It.

luis wrote: Yeah but i know myself and i'm being honest that i try a lot of things alone and when i post questions here is when i can't find the answer alone..(by the way he apologized because It was a mistake, so it's fine) and thanks!
I want to add here that it's now some months that i'm trying the combination Akasha+Satanas (and not just breath of Akasha but vibration) and this really power up the spells that i do! And i belive that i can use this to advance spirituality more 'faster', i'll make a post posting my results with this when i've finished to test It.

Yeah i just saw his post yesterday lol, shit happens. But If you don't mind my asking, how is it you're vibrating with the Akasha, are you using Sanskrit, or Runes? Also, yeah, I believe people should experiment and find out what works best for them, with all of this knowledge there's a lot that can be put together and used, as energy and the universe is quite multifaceted. And I would love to hear how this works out for you, I'd be willing to try it.

Sacred_Practice9 wrote:

luis wrote: Yeah but i know myself and i'm being honest that i try a lot of things alone and when i post questions here is when i can't find the answer alone..(by the way he apologized because It was a mistake, so it's fine) and thanks!
I want to add here that it's now some months that i'm trying the combination Akasha+Satanas (and not just breath of Akasha but vibration) and this really power up the spells that i do! And i belive that i can use this to advance spirituality more 'faster', i'll make a post posting my results with this when i've finished to test It.

Yeah i just saw his post yesterday lol, shit happens. But If you don't mind my asking, how is it you're vibrating with the Akasha, are you using Sanskrit, or Runes? Also, yeah, I believe people should experiment and find out what works best for them, with all of this knowledge there's a lot that can be put together and used, as energy and the universe is quite multifaceted. And I would love to hear how this works out for you, I'd be willing to try it.

Basicaly the word 'Akasha' is sanskrit so just vibrating that works fine, if you want you can breath the Akasha and then vibrate the work but just vibrating It works fine for me, i've found out that 'Akausha' with the "AU' is more powerful. Have you never read the sanskrit word for the element's? Like Tejas, Yalam and so on? It works the same with the word Akasha. Like i said i want to try It more but what i know for sure is that as is written in the JOS, the Akasha is a primer that power up every spell and that is what It do, combine this with Satanas and you have a powerful combination that really make the spell more powerful and i think if i add the element's the spell would be even more powerful. Now i tried this mainly for spell, like healing and other things and i found out that It works well and with less time. I want to use this for my spiritual advancement, like opening my Astral sense's, getting rid of karma and so compleatily unblock my chakras. I just need time to test It and then i will make a post if things are good but It will take some months.

luis wrote: And also, I figure I may provide some information regarding the elements as well. I invoke each of the different elements into my chakras in a given meditation (Crown-Water, 6th-Ether, Throat- Air, Heart- Fire & Air, Solar- Fire, Sacral- Earth&Water, Base-Fire). This can be really powerful if done in one single meditation, and it is done as if you are doing the Condensing the elements meditation on JoS. But in my experience, I tend to feel more of the physical effects of the elements after doing this rather than the emotional, or mental effects of them. Such as getting really hot or cold, or light or heavy. But it is really powerful, and it feels as if doing dozens of vibrations in only a few breaths.

This is gold here, mate. Thanks for this! I've tried the meditation above, it feels great! I feel balanced! I've started reading Initiation to hermetics. In that he states everything manifest is a dance of the elements. Light is of the Fire element. In fact most of the vibrations are lighter versions of the element themselves.
Vibrating Suryaye/Raum x108 to solar plexus on Sunday in the hours of the sun is powerful. Vibrating 'Agni' x 40 which is equivalent to Raum x 400 times, maybe. It is stated the Fire is most subtle element after Akasha. To vibrate AAHH-GGGHH-NNN-EEE is four syllables. I wonder how the interplay of the 4 syllables make the element fire, in that sense, each syllable is subtler!?

Liberate4free666 wrote:

luis wrote: And also, I figure I may provide some information regarding the elements as well. I invoke each of the different elements into my chakras in a given meditation (Crown-Water, 6th-Ether, Throat- Air, Heart- Fire & Air, Solar- Fire, Sacral- Earth&Water, Base-Fire). This can be really powerful if done in one single meditation, and it is done as if you are doing the Condensing the elements meditation on JoS. But in my experience, I tend to feel more of the physical effects of the elements after doing this rather than the emotional, or mental effects of them. Such as getting really hot or cold, or light or heavy. But it is really powerful, and it feels as if doing dozens of vibrations in only a few breaths.

This is gold here, mate. Thanks for this! I've tried the meditation above, it feels great! I feel balanced! I've started reading Initiation to hermetics. In that he states everything manifest is a dance of the elements. Light is of the Fire element. In fact most of the vibrations are lighter versions of the element themselves.
Vibrating Suryaye/Raum x108 to solar plexus on Sunday in the hours of the sun is powerful. Vibrating 'Agni' x 40 which is equivalent to Raum x 400 times, maybe. It is stated the Fire is most subtle element after Akasha. To vibrate AAHH-GGGHH-NNN-EEE is four syllables. I wonder how the interplay of the 4 syllables make the element fire, in that sense, each syllable is subtler!?

Thank you! And I also thank you for opening my eyes to Vibrating the Sanskrit words for the elements as well! Which I feel when done after the above meditation on condensing the elements would increase the effects greatly, we've made genius here friend!

So it would be Invoking and condensing each of the elements and then following that, vibrating the Sanskrit words for the elements into the chakras as well. (Jala, Vyoman or AkAza, Marut, Agni and Marut, Agni, Mahi and Jala, and Agni [in order from crown to base])

What I'm wondering is that there is so many different words for Ether, that which one should be used? Because I wanna say Akaza is probably the best one because it is so close to Akasha, which is the ether, but there was also Astra, which is close to astral.

Sacred_Practice9 wrote:

Liberate4free666 wrote:

luis wrote: And also, I figure I may provide some information regarding the elements as well. I invoke each of the different elements into my chakras in a given meditation (Crown-Water, 6th-Ether, Throat- Air, Heart- Fire & Air, Solar- Fire, Sacral- Earth&Water, Base-Fire). This can be really powerful if done in one single meditation, and it is done as if you are doing the Condensing the elements meditation on JoS. But in my experience, I tend to feel more of the physical effects of the elements after doing this rather than the emotional, or mental effects of them. Such as getting really hot or cold, or light or heavy. But it is really powerful, and it feels as if doing dozens of vibrations in only a few breaths.

This is gold here, mate. Thanks for this! I've tried the meditation above, it feels great! I feel balanced! I've started reading Initiation to hermetics. In that he states everything manifest is a dance of the elements. Light is of the Fire element. In fact most of the vibrations are lighter versions of the element themselves.
Vibrating Suryaye/Raum x108 to solar plexus on Sunday in the hours of the sun is powerful. Vibrating 'Agni' x 40 which is equivalent to Raum x 400 times, maybe. It is stated the Fire is most subtle element after Akasha. To vibrate AAHH-GGGHH-NNN-EEE is four syllables. I wonder how the interplay of the 4 syllables make the element fire, in that sense, each syllable is subtler!?

Thank you! And I also thank you for opening my eyes to Vibrating the Sanskrit words for the elements as well! Which I feel when done after the above meditation on condensing the elements would increase the effects greatly, we've made genius here friend!

So it would be Invoking and condensing each of the elements and then following that, vibrating the Sanskrit words for the elements into the chakras as well. (Jala, Vyoman or AkAza, Marut, Agni and Marut, Agni, Mahi and Jala, and Agni [in order from crown to base])

What I'm wondering is that there is so many different words for Ether, that which one should be used? Because I wanna say Akaza is probably the best one because it is so close to Akasha, which is the ether, but there was also Astra, which is close to astral.

I use Akasha and actualy lately i'm using Akausha with the 'u' and It make It more powerful, for the other element's there is a page on JOS that talk about their mantras http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ation.html

luis wrote:

Sacred_Practice9 wrote:

Liberate4free666 wrote:
This is gold here, mate. Thanks for this! I've tried the meditation above, it feels great! I feel balanced! I've started reading Initiation to hermetics. In that he states everything manifest is a dance of the elements. Light is of the Fire element. In fact most of the vibrations are lighter versions of the element themselves.
Vibrating Suryaye/Raum x108 to solar plexus on Sunday in the hours of the sun is powerful. Vibrating 'Agni' x 40 which is equivalent to Raum x 400 times, maybe. It is stated the Fire is most subtle element after Akasha. To vibrate AAHH-GGGHH-NNN-EEE is four syllables. I wonder how the interplay of the 4 syllables make the element fire, in that sense, each syllable is subtler!?

Thank you! And I also thank you for opening my eyes to Vibrating the Sanskrit words for the elements as well! Which I feel when done after the above meditation on condensing the elements would increase the effects greatly, we've made genius here friend!

So it would be Invoking and condensing each of the elements and then following that, vibrating the Sanskrit words for the elements into the chakras as well. (Jala, Vyoman or AkAza, Marut, Agni and Marut, Agni, Mahi and Jala, and Agni [in order from crown to base])

What I'm wondering is that there is so many different words for Ether, that which one should be used? Because I wanna say Akaza is probably the best one because it is so close to Akasha, which is the ether, but there was also Astra, which is close to astral.

I use Akasha and actualy lately i'm using Akausha with the 'u' and It make It more powerful, for the other element's there is a page on JOS that talk about their mantras http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... ation.html

Interesting work there. Thanks for the link.