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Hello, I want to evoke king Belial. I m new. I be read that he wants offerings and sacrifices. What kind of offerings and what kind of sacrifices he wants does he tell lies if not are given? I be read that to some people talks and in their thoughts he tells. I can not trust that for thoughts I don't call or do cone to my mind so of course don't know which are Belial s. Except that is it safe? If it is why I see descuisions that people who evoke must not have fear? If is going to happen something good to ur life then why to be afraid? Besides I read that there might be problem if you offend one. I do not have intention to offend anyone. What may be offensive to king Belial or anyone else demon? How demons realise things, do they care of the intention of the evoker or they care for specific things to be done? I have king Belial's pendant because I like it. Is it OK for him I wear without evoking him? What does it mean for him and for me in practical things? Can you say is friendly demon or not? I ask so many questions for nowhere I see completely characteristics of demons , how to treat and what to expect from them. King Belial I ve read in some sites he is representing element of earth and in other site element of water. What's true? Would be grateful if you answer me those questions, Thank you so much

Why do you want to evoke Lord Belial?

I be read that he wants offerings and sacrifices.

Where did you read this? The Demons/Gods do not accept or condone any type of living and/or blood sacrifice. As JoS has stated you should not offer Them worthless trinkets, foods, etc. as offerings, you can offer Them energy or RTRs.

You should completely open all of your chakras and soul before summoning/evoking any Gods. Opening the soul completely and permanently will take time.
How to open the soul: http://archive.is/GPrh0

First of all, are you even a dedicated Satanist?

Hello, thank you for answer.
As i told you I m very new. First connection with this subject was with jos site which I study some months now.
I hadn't done dedication, I m just reading . thanks for the site you gave me.I will check it.
Happy to hear this about offering. Besides it would be strange for a spirit to want food. And after ritual I would not know what to do it.
And i have a question. How you give energy to a spirit? Does the spirit which has very big energy need the human kind little energy?
Some shapes, schemes we like and some not much. I was looking sigils of demons. King Belial's I like very much. Some other sigils I like less. Answer me please, does it mean that with those I like most I can be more close or work together than those I like less? Maybe its foolish question but I need an answer and would be grateful. Can I draw the sigils of demons or they don't like if I don't do without dedications or so?
Is the relationship personalised or its a list of rules that a spirit want to be respected? As I see in jos site its personalised. But I read in other sites other things. And told you I m new and I m collecting information to know more.
Is there any site with a complete list of demons where are written all their characteristics what treatment they want and what one to expect as attitude from them? Would be very useful.
Something else. Finding my self without noticing to repeat the word Belial. Should I stop when I notice?could be at any way annoying or whatever?
Sorry for so many questions but its first time I m thinking of spirits and I don't know anything about so trying to find out answers.

And please one more question. In jos site are written 2 things. That Christianity and other religions are programs with no real god just to take spirituality far from people. Second that it's a foolishness to threaten as in classic grimmories the demons with yahveh name. Why if you said its not true and no strong it is annoying so much demons?
I d be grateful if you answer and really thank you so much

There is a whole section dedicated to demons on the JoS website. Why don't you read it instead of asking things that are already answered there? http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... emons.html Everything you find elsewhere is called ritual abuse of demons and since they're not bound to will, by using those methods, you will be inviting personal disaster in your life. Nobody likes to be bound, excluding Xian, Muslims and those who are into sick practices derived from millennia of Jewish brainwashing (BDSM).

Demons are gods. They are flesh and blood, not disincarnate spirits.

The other questions I leave for those who have the patience.

Stormblood wrote:There is a whole section dedicated to demons on the JoS website. Why don't you read it instead of asking things that are already answered there? http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... emons.html Everything you find elsewhere is called ritual abuse of demons and since they're not bound to will, by using those methods, you will be inviting personal disaster in your life. Nobody likes to be bound, excluding Xian, Muslims and those who are into sick practices derived from millennia of Jewish brainwashing (BDSM).

Demons are gods. They are flesh and blood, not disincarnate spirits.

The other questions I leave for those who have the patience.

Thank you for your answer and for the link you gave me. I have read the demon list on jos.
What I want is to know more information about each demon character, they re not all the same right? What they like most and less, who can be more hot tempered than others, who is for new and who for more experienced?
What may ask for return? They don't like all of them same things, if they have different characters . i ask from your experience to tell me.
I saw in demonolatry sites all of them that they say lord Belial represents earth not water. I trust more jos but feel bit weird for all satanistic sites say earth no water.
I read that without offerings lord Belial will lie onto ones demands.
I trust jos more than anything else but I d like from jos some answer to that questions.
In jos I saw what demons can offer only and I want to know more about.
Thank you

Astardastar wrote:

Stormblood wrote:There is a whole section dedicated to demons on the JoS website. Why don't you read it instead of asking things that are already answered there? http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... emons.html Everything you find elsewhere is called ritual abuse of demons and since they're not bound to will, by using those methods, you will be inviting personal disaster in your life. Nobody likes to be bound, excluding Xian, Muslims and those who are into sick practices derived from millennia of Jewish brainwashing (BDSM).

Demons are gods. They are flesh and blood, not disincarnate spirits.

The other questions I leave for those who have the patience.

Thank you for your answer and for the link you gave me. I have read the demon list on jos.
What I want is to know more information about each demon character, they re not all the same right? What they like most and less, who can be more hot tempered than others, who is for new and who for more experienced?
What may ask for return? They don't like all of them same things, if they have different characters . i ask from your experience to tell me.
I saw in demonolatry sites all of them that they say lord Belial represents earth not water. I trust more jos but feel bit weird for all satanistic sites say earth no water.
I read that without offerings lord Belial will lie onto ones demands.
I trust jos more than anything else but I d like from jos some answer to that questions.
In jos I saw what demons can offer only and I want to know more about.
Thank you

You have first to understand that JOS is different from all other """"satanist"""" site. What the demons need from you is that first you dedicate your soul to Father Satan, meditate and do the warfear with the RTR. Then what you can offer them is energy or more RTR. The thing is if your astral sense's are not open you won't see them at all.

luis wrote:

Astardastar wrote:

Stormblood wrote:There is a whole section dedicated to demons on the JoS website. Why don't you read it instead of asking things that are already answered there? http://www.angelfire.com/empire/serpent ... emons.html Everything you find elsewhere is called ritual abuse of demons and since they're not bound to will, by using those methods, you will be inviting personal disaster in your life. Nobody likes to be bound, excluding Xian, Muslims and those who are into sick practices derived from millennia of Jewish brainwashing (BDSM).

Demons are gods. They are flesh and blood, not disincarnate spirits.

The other questions I leave for those who have the patience.

Thank you for your answer and for the link you gave me. I have read the demon list on jos.
What I want is to know more information about each demon character, they re not all the same right? What they like most and less, who can be more hot tempered than others, who is for new and who for more experienced?
What may ask for return? They don't like all of them same things, if they have different characters . i ask from your experience to tell me.
I saw in demonolatry sites all of them that they say lord Belial represents earth not water. I trust more jos but feel bit weird for all satanistic sites say earth no water.
I read that without offerings lord Belial will lie onto ones demands.
I trust jos more than anything else but I d like from jos some answer to that questions.
In jos I saw what demons can offer only and I want to know more about.
Thank you

You have first to understand that JOS is different from all other """"satanist"""" site. What the demons need from you is that first you dedicate your soul to Father Satan, meditate and do the warfear with the RTR. Then what you can offer them is energy or more RTR. The thing is if your astral sense's are not open you won't see them at all.

Thank you very much, you are helping me with your answer. But there is still a question. Why demons who have super great energy they need the tiny human kind energy. This I don't understand.
many times I read that some people are weak to so much energy when contact demons. Why demons need to take energy while they are so much strong?
Thanks for answer

Astardastar wrote:

luis wrote:

Astardastar wrote:

Thank you for your answer and for the link you gave me. I have read the demon list on jos.
What I want is to know more information about each demon character, they re not all the same right? What they like most and less, who can be more hot tempered than others, who is for new and who for more experienced?
What may ask for return? They don't like all of them same things, if they have different characters . i ask from your experience to tell me.
I saw in demonolatry sites all of them that they say lord Belial represents earth not water. I trust more jos but feel bit weird for all satanistic sites say earth no water.
I read that without offerings lord Belial will lie onto ones demands.
I trust jos more than anything else but I d like from jos some answer to that questions.
In jos I saw what demons can offer only and I want to know more about.
Thank you

You have first to understand that JOS is different from all other """"satanist"""" site. What the demons need from you is that first you dedicate your soul to Father Satan, meditate and do the warfear with the RTR. Then what you can offer them is energy or more RTR. The thing is if your astral sense's are not open you won't see them at all.

Thank you very much, you are helping me with your answer. But there is still a question. Why demons who have super great energy they need the tiny human kind energy. This I don't understand.
many times I read that some people are weak to so much energy when contact demons. Why demons need to take energy while they are so much strong?
Thanks for answer

This is just specutations but i think that they use a lot of their energy for us and our cause more than we can think of, so this is a good present for them. Doing more RTR for an accorded ammount of day and repetitions is probabily better but as i said these are just specutations from me. Remember this It will take time to open all' your astral sense's and so see and hear the gods unlese you have already a powerful soul, this is because our soul are really degenerated because of the enemy. If you want to know more about all of this read all JOS and the sermons from the HP's that you can find the older ones in the Satanic Libray. If you don't know something then there is the forum's where the member's will help you.

luis wrote:

Astardastar wrote:

luis wrote:
You have first to understand that JOS is different from all other """"satanist"""" site. What the demons need from you is that first you dedicate your soul to Father Satan, meditate and do the warfear with the RTR. Then what you can offer them is energy or more RTR. The thing is if your astral sense's are not open you won't see them at all.

Thank you very much, you are helping me with your answer. But there is still a question. Why demons who have super great energy they need the tiny human kind energy. This I don't understand.
many times I read that some people are weak to so much energy when contact demons. Why demons need to take energy while they are so much strong?
Thanks for answer

This is just specutations but i think that they use a lot of their energy for us and our cause more than we can think of, so this is a good present for them. Doing more RTR for an accorded ammount of day and repetitions is probabily better but as i said these are just specutations from me. Remember this It will take time to open all' your astral sense's and so see and hear the gods unlese you have already a powerful soul, this is because our soul are really degenerated because of the enemy. If you want to know more about all of this read all JOS and the sermons from the HP's that you can find the older ones in the Satanic Libray. If you don't know something then there is the forum's where the member's will help you.

I am Grateful for answer, thank you very much for helping