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Hitlers views on indians

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 3:29 am
by Jack The GOOD guy
I'm a little concerned about the authenticity of the book "Hitlers Table Talk" and his quotes about India and the Indians. I'm not really sure what to make out of this.
Is this the same faking of history ? I know many Indians were in the waffen ss. Though what about these quotes ?

https://www.quora.com/What-did-Hitler-t ... ian-people

4th February 1945
To tell the truth, I feel much more sympathetically inclined to the lowliest Hindu than to any of these arrogant (British) islanders .

7th February 1945
In them (Asians), the white races have imposed their will by force, and the influence they have had on the native inhabitants has been negligible; the Hindus have remained Hindus, the Chinese have remained Chinese, and the Muslims are still Muslims. There have been no profound transformations, and such changes as have occurred are less marked in the religious field, notwithstanding the tremendous efforts of the Christian missionaries, than in any other. There have been a few odd conversions the sincerity of which are open to considerable doubt-except, perhaps in the case of a few simpletons and mentally deficient. The white races did, of course, give some things to the natives, and they were the worst gifts that they could possibly have made, those plagues of our own modern world-materialism, fanaticism, alcoholism and syphilis. For the rest, since these peoples possessed qualities of their own which were superior to anything we could offer them, they have remained essentially unchanged.
Colonization is not an activity which Germans feel called upon to pursue,Germany should never make common cause with the colonizing nations and should always abstain from supporting them in their colonial aspirations.

Those quotations are from Hitler's transcribed conversations with his personal secretary Martin Bormann, who was with Hitler in his bunker in the Battle of Berlin and one of the witnesses to the signing of Hitler's Last Will and his marriage to Eva Braun on April 29th, 1945. Bormann was also present in the cremation of Adolf and Eva on April 30th.

That uncharacteristically sympathetic view towards non-Europeans held at the end of his life has to be taken in the context of those last few years; it wasn't Asians or Arabs that repelled his European invasions or reduced Dresden to ashes, it was his fellow 'White' people that did it.

As bizarrely sympathetic as Hitler was in the days before his suicide, he began life with a typical Imperialist attitude of the world, and was a hardcore Anglophile in particular. You could say that his goal was to make Germany as powerful as Britain during the height of their empire.

Here's a look at some of the things Hitler said about non-Europeans (India in particular, as this is what the question asks for. Hitler even makes a comment about Nehru and Bose) from the publishing of Mein Kampf to his transcribed private conversations :



July 1941
Let's learn from the English, who, with two hundred and fifty thousand men in all, including fifty thousand soldiers, govern four hundred million Indians.

17th October 1941
The basic reason for English pride is India. Four hundred years ago the English didn't have this pride. The vast spaces over which they spread their rule obliged them to govern millions of people — and they kept these multitudes in order by granting a few men unlimited power. It would obviously have been impossible for them to keep great European areas supplied with foodstuffs and other articles of prime necessity. In any case, the Anglicans never sustained the slightest effort of a missionary description. Thus it was that the Indians never suffered any attack of this sort upon their spiritual integrity.
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What India was for England, the territories of Russia will be for us. If only I could make the German people understand what this space means for our future!
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If the English were to be driven out of India, India would perish. Our role in Russia will be analogous to that of England in India.
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The Russian space is our India. Like the English, we shall rule this empire with a handful of men.

15th August to 17th September 1941
In this business I shall go straight ahead, cold-bloodedly. What they may think about me, at this juncture, is to me a matter of complete indifference. I don't see why a German who eats a piece of bread should torment himself with the idea that the soil that produces this bread has been won by the sword. When we eat wheat from Canada, we don't think about the despoiled Indians. The precept that it's men's duty to love one another is theory — and the Christians are the last to practise it! A negro baby who has the misfortune to die before a missionary gets his clutches on him, goes to Hell! If that were true, one might well lament that sorrowful destiny: to have lived only three years, and to burn for all eternity with Lucifer!

26th October 1941
To exploit the Ukraine properly — that new Indian Empire — I need only peace in the West. The frontier police will be enough to ensure us the quiet conditions necessary for the exploitation of the conquered territories. I attach no importance to a formal, juridical end to the war on the Eastern Front. If the English are clever, they will seize the psychological moment to make an about-turn — and they will march on our side.

5th January 1941
One of their great bases is Iran, Irak and Syria. That's where their fleet takes on supplies. The other is the Malay archipelago, where they're losing all their refueling -points for oil. They can trumpet abroad their intentions concerning Europe, but they (Britain) know very well that it's the possession of India on which the existence of their Empire depends.

December 1941

Hitler meets with Haj Amin al-Husseini, the leader of the Supreme Muslim Council, which was opposed to British presence in Palestine.

January 1942
The wealth of Great Britain is the result less of a perfect commercial organisation than of the capitalist exploitation of the three hundred and fifty million Indian slaves. The British are commended for their worldly wisdom in respecting the customs of the countries subject to them. In reality, this attitude has no other explanation than the determination not to raise the natives' standard of living. If we took India, the Indians would certainly not be enthusiastic, and they'd not be slow to regret the good old days of English rule! The climax of this cynical behavior of the English is that it gives them the prestige of liberalism and tolerance.
The prohibition of suttee for widows, and the suppression of starvation-dungeons, were dictated to the English by the desire not to reduce the labour-force, and perhaps also by the desire to economize wood! They set so cleverly about presenting these measures to the world that they provoked a wave of admiration. That's the strength of the English: to allow the natives to live whilst they exploit them to the uttermost.
There's not a single Englishman, at this moment, who isn't thinking constantly of India. If one were to offer the English this alternative, to keep India whilst abandoning Europe to Germany, or to lose India whilst retaining the control of Europe, I'm sure that 99 per cent of them would choose to keep India. For them, India has likewise become a symbol, for it's on India that she built the Empire. Out of four hundred and fifty million subjects, the King of England has three hundred and fifty million Indians.

12th-13th January 1942
There are no bloody insurrections in India to-day, but the difficulty for the Indians is to reconcile the divergent interests of such a diverse population.How are the princes and the Brahmins, the Hindus and the Mussulmans, all these hierarchised and partitioned castes to be combined in a common front? If a British newspaper in India writes an article to-day attacking Churchill, that's because it can't do anything else — or it would lose its whole public. The Press doesn't give an exact picture of the reality.

In India, revolt is an endemic condition. Gandhi tried to succeed by pacific methods, but whatever be the methods chosen, the Indians are unanimous in their desire to shake off the British yoke. Some of them would like to try Bolshevism for that purpose, others would like to try us. Others would prefer to owe nothing to the foreigner. For all, the object is the same, it's liberty — and nobody cares about the state of anarchy that will follow in India upon the departure of the English.When one treats a people as the English have continually treated the Indians, the unpardonable folly is to send the youth of the country to the universities, where it learns things that it would be better for it not to know.

3rd March 1942
I read to-day that India at present numbers three hundred and eighty-eight million inhabitants, which means an increase of fifty-five millions during the last ten years. It's alarming. We are witnessing the same phenomenon in Russia. The women there have a child every year. The chief reason for this increase is the reduction in mortality due to the progress made by the health services. What are our doctors thinking of? Isn't it enough to vaccinate the whites? So much the worse for the whites who won't let themselves be vaccinated ! Let 'em croak! All the same, because of these people's fixed ideas, we can't sterilize all the natives.
If the English give India back her liberty, within twenty years India will have lost her liberty again. There are English- men who reproach themselves with having governed the country badly. Why? Because the Indians show no enthusiasm for their rule. I claim that the English have governed India very well, but their error is to expect enthusiasm from the people they administer. If it's true that the English have exploited India, it's also true that India has drawn a profit from English domination. Without the English, India would certainly not have a population of three hundred and eighty million inhabitants.
It is questionable, by the way, whether Cripps will get any hearing from the Indian people. The Indian world has already been so disturbed by the presence of the Japanese on its frontiers, and by the fall of Singapore, that the man of compromise, Nehru, has been eclipsed by Bose. If today Cripps endeavours, with the help of blackmail or begging, to induce the Indians to resist the Japanese, I doubt whether Nehru, however much he would like to, would be able to help him effectively. Nehru's fate will be like that of the Socialists in 1918 who were swept away by the masses.

May 29, 1942: Hitler meets Subhas Chandra Bose

Hitler meets Subhas Chandra Bose, leader of the Indian National Army which fought for Indian independence from colonial rule. Germany forms the Indische legion, made up of Indian volunteers and British-Indian POW's.


Rommel with the Indische legion

1942, February 6th
I can well imagine that Japan would put no obstacle in the way of peace, on condition that the Far East were handed over to her. She's not capable of digesting India, and I doubt whether she has any interest in occupying Australia and New Zealand. If we preserve our connections with her, Japan will derive from this a great sense of security, and will feel that she has nothing more to fear from anybody at all. This alliance is also an essential guarantee of tranquility for us—in particular, in the event of our being able to rely on a lasting friendship with France. There's one thing that Japan and Germany have absolutely in common—that both of us need fifty to a hundred years for purposes of digestion: we for Russia, they for the Far East...
...the Japanese would win the war, but that in the long run they'd be absorbed by the Chinese.

1942, May 17th
There are certain foreign journalists who try to create an impression by talking about the Yellow peril and by drawing our attention to the fact that our alliance with Japan is a species of betrayal of our own racial principles.

1942, June
It angers one to think that, while in other parts of the globe religious teaching like that of Confucius, Buddha and Mohammed offers an undeniably broad basis for the religious-minded, Germans should have been duped by a theological exposition (Christianity) devoid of all honest depth.

22nd August 1942
In a book on India which I read recently, it was said that India educated the British and gave them their feeling of superiority.The lesson begins in the street itself; anyone who wastes even a moment's compassion on a beggar is literally torn to pieces by the beggar hordes; anyone who shows a trace of human sentiment is damned for ever. From these origins springs that crushing contempt for everything that is not British which is a characteristic of the British race. Hence the reason why the typical Briton marches ahead, superior, disdainful and oblivious to everything around him. If the British are ever driven out of India, the repercussions will be swift and terrible. In the end, the Russians will reap the benefit. However miserably the inhabitants of India may hve under the British they will certainly be no better off if the British go.

Opium and alcohol bring in twenty-two and a half million sterling to the British Exchequer every year. Anyone who raises his voice in protest is regarded as a traitor to the State, and dealt with accordingly. We Germans, on the contrary, will all go on smoking our pipes, while at the same time compelling the natives of our colonies to abandon the horrors of nicotine!

Britain does not wish to see India over-populated ; it is not in her interest. On the contrary, she would rather see a somewhat sparse population. If we were to occupy India, the very first preoccupation of our administrators would be to set up countless Commissions to enquire into the conditions of every aspect of human activity with a view to their amelioration; our Universities, full of solicitude for the welfare of the natives, would immediately open sister organisations all over the country; and we should finish up by quickly proving that India has a civilization older than our own!

I have just been reading some books which every German going abroad should be compelled to read. The first of them is Alsdorff's book, which should be read by every diplomat. According to it, it was not the British who taught Indians evil ways ; when the first white men landed in the country they found the walls surrounding many of the towns were constructed of human skulls; equally, it was not Cortez who brought cruelty to the Mexicans — it was there before he arrived. The Mexicans, indeed, indulged in extensive human sacrifice, and, when the spirit moved them, would sacrifice as many as twenty thousand human beings at a time! In comparison, Cortez was a moderate man. There is no need whatever to go rushing round the world making the native more healthy than the white man. Some people I know are indignant at the sale of shoddy cotton goods to the natives; what, pray, do they suggest — that we should give them pure silk?
I have been reading tales of the burning of corpses at Benares. If we were out there, our hygiene experts would rise in their wrath and institute a crusade, backed by the most rigorous penalties, to suppress this evil practice! Every day official chemists would come and analyse the river-water, and in no time a new and gigantic Ministry of Health would be set up! The British, on the other hand, have contented themselves with forbidding the immolation of widows. The Indians can think themselves lucky that we do not rule India. We should make their lives a misery! Just think of it! Two hundred yards down- stream of the place where they pitch the half-burned bodies of their dead into the Ganges, they drink the river water! Nobody ever takes any harm from it. But would we stand for a thing like that?

1945, February 13th
"Pride in one's own race - and that does not imply contempt for other races - is also a normal and healthy sentiment. I have never regarded the Chinese or the Japanese as being inferior to ourselves. They belong to ancient civilizations, and I admit freely that their past history is superior to our own. They have the right to be proud of their past, just as we have the right to be proud of the civilization to which we belong. Indeed, I believethe more steadfast the Chinese and the Japanese remain in their pride of race, the easier I shall find it to get on with them.

14th February 1945
Never, at any price, should we have put our money on France and against the peoples subjected to her yoke. On the contrary, we should have helped them (Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia, Libya, Ivory Coast, Sudan, Guinea, Mauritania, Niger, Senegal, Upper Volta, Togoland, Chad, Oubangui-Chari, Congo, Cameroon, Madagascar, Lebanon, Syria ) to achieve their liberty

17th February 1945
Had we been on our own, we could have emancipated the Moslem countries dominated by France; and that would have had enormous repercussions in the Near East, dominated by Britain, and in Egypt. But with our fortunes linked to those of the Italians, the pursuit of such a policy was not possible. All Islam vibrated at the news of our victories. The Egyptians, the Irakis and the whole of the Near East were all ready to rise in revolt. Just think what we could have done to help them, even to incite them, as would have been both our duty and in our own interest! But the presence of the Italians at our side paralysed us; it created a feeling of malaise among our Islamic friends, who inevitably saw in us accomplices, willing or unwilling, of their oppressors. For the Italians in these parts of the world are more bitterly hated, of course, than either the British or the French. The memories of the barbarous, reprisals taken against the Senussi are still vivid. Then again the ridiculous pretensions of the Duce to be regarded as The Sword of Islam evokes the same sneering chuckle now as it did before the war. This title, which is fitting for Mahomed and a great conqueror like Omar, Mussolini caused to be conferred on himself by a few wretched brutes whom he had either bribed or terrorized into doing so. We had a great chance of pursuing a splendid policy with regard to Islam. But we missed the bus, as we missed it on several other occasions, thanks to our loyalty to the Italian alliance!

1945, February 18th
He (Roosevelt) had done all in his power to provoke the Japanese... they (America) were more obsessed than ever with the idea of the Yellow Peril...

For us, Japan will always remain an ally and a friend. This war will teach us to appreciate and respect her more than ever. It will encourage us to draw more tightly the bonds which unite our two countries. It is of course regrettable that the Japanese did not enter the war against Russia and at the same time as ourselves. Had they done so, Stalin's armies would not now be besieging Breslau or squatting in Budapest. We should have liquidated Bolshevism by the time winter came, and Roosevelt would have hesitated to take on adversaries as powerful as our two selves. In the same way I am sorry that Japan did not capture Singapore as early as 1940, immediately after the defeat of France. The United States was then on the eve of a presidential election and would have found it impossible to intervene. That, then, was one of the turning points of the war.

In spite of everything, we and the Japanese will remain staunchly side by side. We will conquer or die together. Should we be the first to succumb, I can't see the Russians continuing to maintain the myth of `Asiatic solidarity' for the sake of Japan!
The descendants of the convicts in Australia should inspire in us nothing but a feeling of supreme indifference. If their vitality is not strong enough to enable them to increase at a rate proportionate to the size of the territories they occupy, that is their own look out, and it is no use their appealing to us for help. For my own part, I have no objection at all to seeing the surplus populations of prolific Asia being drawn, as to a magnet, to their empty spaces. Let them all work out their own salvation! And let me repeat - it is nothing to do with us

2nd April 1945
I am sure that the Japanese, the Chinese and the peoples of Islam will always be closer to us than, for example, France, in spite of the fact that we are related by blood.

You can see that early on Hitler believed the war in Europe would be brief, with his hope that Britain would see the 'error of their ways' and join hands with him to rule the world. Even as late as October of 1941 Hitler held on to the fantasy that the British people would run over to his side. But as the war raged on his dream of a unified 'white race' vs everyone else had been sorely tested.

Of his European ally Italy, Hitler had nothing good to say of them, even claiming that it was worse to have them as an ally than to have them do nothing at all.

Of Japan Hitler was initially aghast at having to ally with non-Whites (calling it a 'great tragedy' that Asia would be lost to the white race) but as the war went on his opinion of them raised, even wishing that Germany had a bushido spirituality like theirs. Among Africans and Arabs Hitler had found many allies(France and Britain had made a poor impression there), and again Hitler admired their Islam above that of European Christianity. Of India, the crown jewel of Britain's empire, Hitler had met the revolutionary Subhas Chandra Bose and saw an Indian revolution as something that would cripple Britain. And towards other 'White' people, Hitler divided them into arbitrary subgroups to brutally murder one another.

To sum it up, Hitler's feelings towards India was directly related to his feelings towards Britain. The more he admired Britain and emulated their empire while hoping they would become his ally, the less he thought of India and viewed them as a dehumanized resource to exploit (even throwing in casual comments on sterilization). The less he thought of Britain though and acknowledged the reality of his European war, the more sympathetic he was to India and other non-European peoples he was not warring with.

As you can see hugely contradictory statements. And his actions speak otherwise. He helped Subash Bose raise an army by releasing the POWs Rommel captured. In another book "memoirs of a confidant" by another Nazi he is seen to be sympathetic to Asians and Indians.

What are your views ?

Re: Hitlers views on indians

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:37 am
by Mageson666
Tables Talks has been altered like everything else.

That fact as I wrote in an article on the subject Hitler is the acknowledged liberator of India and the father of Indian independence by the Hindu swami's and scholars themselves. Srila Prabhupada is on record stating this fact it was not Gandhi but Hitler via Bose who was the giver of Independence to Hindu India.

You can also note Hitler didn't invade the Soviet Union to rule it. But to destroy Communism and the Red Army before their invasion on Europe along several fronts coming the next month, and give the people back their free nations. This was stated by the Russian author Suvoro in his book on the subject which he wrote from the Soviet achieves. His books are banned in Jewish run Russia. The SS General Leon Degrelle mentioned in his book Hitler and Himmler both mentioned this.

Hitler's plans for liberated Europe follows his anti Imperialist stance and the pointlessness of trying to rule vast different Empires.

Hitler always hated the Austro-Hungarian Empire because it was a ploygot failure and didn't want to recreate this.

If you study Hitler writings as even some of this hints he was not racist towards other groups but did oppose the Jews because they are violently racist against His own People and the world and trying to destroy it with Communism. Which is politicalized kabala theosophy and just a manifestation of Jewish supremacy and racist predatory beliefs of the alien soul of the Jew.

Re: Hitlers views on indians

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:13 pm
by sahasrarabliss
That site, quora is full of ignorants of both adult and middle age groups like on all other such discussion forums and sites. I visited that site via Google search many times.. Basically, They *repeat* what they hear and see in the mainstream media.