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Shael wrote:

Dahaarkan wrote:I need this guy to be single 15 minutes ago.

I'm using isa to fuck up their meeting and possibly prevent their relationship from escalating or cause rejection.


I've never actually done a working to sepparate people, any suggestions pls?

These are the kinds of topics I like to see

The main thing to keep in mind is that unfortunately we cant use mantras for purely black-magick things yet because they would stick to us, too. With that in mind, you still have a bunch of options though.

For one, you can try the necronomicon mantra for gaining control of a situation and shaping reality - #47 ADDU/KAKODAMMU.
Just vibrate 47x ADDU and then 47x KAKODAMMU while focusing on this sigil:
During the whole thing, visualize the desired result happening as you focus on the sigil, and then finish it all off with an affirmation as usual.

Another thing you can try (in moderation) is to vibrate the sanskrit word for isolation "vivikta" into him and visualize a brilliantly white (only white, no gold or anything like that) aura around him, programming it to isolate him from that person. This option is something I would only recommend if you really need it to happen no matter what, and if you need it fast. Keep in mind here that this is in a way a malefic mantra. It's more on the neutral side, but it could still affect you negatively too if you vibrate it too much, similarly to Isa which could cause dullness when overused. I think in the case of this one if you do decide to use it, it may help to do a session of breathing in pure golden energy into your own aura about 45 minutes after the working has been done (let the energies "set" first before doing this), to offset the energies of the mantra that will have latched onto you. This is just theories though. I have not tried this personally and merely shared this method because you said you need it done as fast as possible. If you decide to do it, always listen to your gut feeling and the Gods, and stop if you start to feel bad from it.
You can also just do the white aura thing by itself, or with another mantra that is more safe than this one, though this may yield slightly slower results.

Now for the last option, and my personal favorite, using the mantra zAsitR. This mantra is one of domination and authority, meaning you can use it on yourself and then direct your authorative energies towards both of them to influence their minds/emotions to make them stay away from each other. This mantra I have successfully used, myself, and it is completely safe and effective from my experience. I think if you want to use this mantra successfully, you need to have a mind that can be a bit "dictating", "dominating", "oppressive". If this applies to you, I would recommend using this method preferredly. Otherwise, the previous methods may be a better choice.

Hope this helps you, and good luck.

I just searched about "vivikta" mantra and these topics popped up...
I also have a question. I need a little help.
Can this mantra be used on a family member, too?
And can I use/put the aura of revulsion around the person whom I would like to save? I mean, normally we would put the aura of revulsion around the person we want to keep isolated from the one who has an interest/or whom we would like to save. Right? But can I reverse this?
I would put the aura of revulsion around the family member I would like to save and isolate from a bad individual. And I would combine this with vibrating vivikta into the aura of the family member. Then the proper affirmation would come. Is it ok too?
Or these workings should be done separately?
And how many times should I vibrate vivikta? And how many days?

Thanks!

Δυσδαιμόνα Διαμαντής wrote:I just searched about "vivikta" mantra and these topics popped up...
I also have a question. I need a little help.
Can this mantra be used on a family member, too?
And can I use/put the aura of revulsion around the person whom I would like to save? I mean, normally we would put the aura of revulsion around the person we want to keep isolated from the one who has an interest/or whom we would like to save. Right? But can I reverse this?
I would put the aura of revulsion around the family member I would like to save and isolate from a bad individual. And I would combine this with vibrating vivikta into the aura of the family member. Then the proper affirmation would come. Is it ok too?
Or these workings should be done separately?
And how many times should I vibrate vivikta? And how many days?

Thanks!

Vivikta can have harmful effects, which is why it's not really recommended to use outside of black magick. Not only would you need to throughly keep cleaning yourself, but you would also have to thoroughly clean that family member, every day, to ensure that vivikta does not isolate in a general sense and bring possibly severe negative effects.

You can just do a simple protective aura instead around this person, with for example Algiz and maybe Sowilo to add power, and then program this with an affirmation that the aura is isolating him/her from that bad person and pushing that person away at all times.

In either case, start it preferrably during a Capricorn moon. If you want to start in a specific planetary hour, then Sun, Moon, Mars, and Mercury should all be viable. Since it's a family member, Moon might be most favorable. Avoid Saturn and Jupiter hours for this.
40 days should be enough, but you can do 90 if you prefer this and/or want more power.

I hope your desires are ethically motivated for this and really really in need I won’t ask you why you want to do this but if it is a petty thing like u want the person and now u wana break two people up that could potential be well suited for each other wher as it might just be a short term thing with u or a fling then .... mmmm iv discovered over the years this isn’t really the way to go bru just work on urself

What makes your think Satan is helping you through this ? You sound very weak in character to be honest to go thru such lengths and thinking Satan has time to help with this sort of shit ? Is one of the people jewish ? I notice iam replying to an old message lol

Dahaarkan wrote:Small update for anyone considering the methods above, 50 days in and the person in question is showing confusion and uncertainty with their relationship with the other cunt. Also a drastic change in attitude and disposition towards me starting somewhere between the 40th and 50th day. Literally wants to cheat on the other guy with me lmfao

Satan is helping me through this process though so you may take longer to get results on your own.

Shael wrote:

Δυσδαιμόνα Διαμαντής wrote:I just searched about "vivikta" mantra and these topics popped up...
I also have a question. I need a little help.
Can this mantra be used on a family member, too?
And can I use/put the aura of revulsion around the person whom I would like to save? I mean, normally we would put the aura of revulsion around the person we want to keep isolated from the one who has an interest/or whom we would like to save. Right? But can I reverse this?
I would put the aura of revulsion around the family member I would like to save and isolate from a bad individual. And I would combine this with vibrating vivikta into the aura of the family member. Then the proper affirmation would come. Is it ok too?
Or these workings should be done separately?
And how many times should I vibrate vivikta? And how many days?

Thanks!

Vivikta can have harmful effects, which is why it's not really recommended to use outside of black magick. Not only would you need to throughly keep cleaning yourself, but you would also have to thoroughly clean that family member, every day, to ensure that vivikta does not isolate in a general sense and bring possibly severe negative effects.

You can just do a simple protective aura instead around this person, with for example Algiz and maybe Sowilo to add power, and then program this with an affirmation that the aura is isolating him/her from that bad person and pushing that person away at all times.

In either case, start it preferrably during a Capricorn moon. If you want to start in a specific planetary hour, then Sun, Moon, Mars, and Mercury should all be viable. Since it's a family member, Moon might be most favorable. Avoid Saturn and Jupiter hours for this.
40 days should be enough, but you can do 90 if you prefer this and/or want more power.

I see. Thank you.
I also wanted to use runes first, as usual, but recently I stared to use these (and other) runes in an other working. But later I will try it then.
Then also I should rather put the aura of revulsion around the bad person, right?
Too keep that person isolated from my family member.
Maybe I should try to use other methods (too) to keep him isolated or to make him go away.....

Δυσδαιμόνα Διαμαντής wrote:I see. Thank you.
I also wanted to use runes first, as usual, but recently I stared to use these (and other) runes in an other working. But later I will try it then.

You can use the same runes in multiple workings without negative effects. Just letting you know in case you arent aware.

Δυσδαιμόνα Διαμαντής wrote:Then also I should rather put the aura of revulsion around the bad person, right?
Too keep that person isolated from my family member.
Maybe I should try to use other methods (too) to keep him isolated or to make him go away.....

When using the runes I recommended, you can use it on your family member safely. When using Vivikta, do it strictly on the bad person instead.

Most certainly i think i'll be justified to break up a relationship between my cousin sister and her new boyfriend because he's a fucking muslim . This is a disgrace ,i had earlier explained to her in detail why islam was pure evil and how anyone calling himself muslim was complicit in the war against all of us. This girl doesn't seem to have any bonds for our religion ,no understanding of history (even though i explained it to her in detail ) and anything resembling common sense. She also seems to have some sort of weird feminist agenda going on in her mind and hates nationalism. Id go and personally beat up the guy but i don't want to go to jail (if i can solve it non locally ) and create a confrontational situation between her and her family (she's keeping it as a secret from them) which could sully her name. I obtained the images of the guy and i'll start a spell to break them up. Thankfully Shael (a.k.a breaker of worlds) has me covered . This year couldn't go any worse.

Jack wrote:Most certainly i think i'll be justified to break up a relationship between my cousin sister and her new boyfriend because he's a fucking muslim . This is a disgrace ,i had earlier explained to her in detail why islam was pure evil and how anyone calling himself muslim was complicit in the war against all of us. This girl doesn't seem to have any bonds for our religion ,no understanding of history (even though i explained it to her in detail ) and anything resembling common sense. She also seems to have some sort of weird feminist agenda going on in her mind and hates nationalism. Id go and personally beat up the guy but i don't want to go to jail (if i can solve it non locally ) and create a confrontational situation between her and her family (she's keeping it as a secret from them) which could sully her name. I obtained the images of the guy and i'll start a spell to break them up. Thankfully Shael (a.k.a breaker of worlds) has me covered . This year couldn't go any worse.

It’s got to be some divine irony when feminists end up with people like Muslims. It seems a common occurrence too. But I guess there are a lot of cognitive dissonances involved with being a feminist as it is.

I hope your situation turns out for the better.

This was also much of a help to me. Now I can hasten the deaths of some past personal enemies of mine.

Wildfire wrote:This was also much of a help to me. Now I can hasten the deaths of some past personal enemies of mine.

Whoah there, treading on eggshells.

Libra wrote:

Jack wrote:Most certainly i think i'll be justified to break up a relationship between my cousin sister and her new boyfriend because he's a fucking muslim . This is a disgrace ,i had earlier explained to her in detail why islam was pure evil and how anyone calling himself muslim was complicit in the war against all of us. This girl doesn't seem to have any bonds for our religion ,no understanding of history (even though i explained it to her in detail ) and anything resembling common sense. She also seems to have some sort of weird feminist agenda going on in her mind and hates nationalism. Id go and personally beat up the guy but i don't want to go to jail (if i can solve it non locally ) and create a confrontational situation between her and her family (she's keeping it as a secret from them) which could sully her name. I obtained the images of the guy and i'll start a spell to break them up. Thankfully Shael (a.k.a breaker of worlds) has me covered . This year couldn't go any worse.

It’s got to be some divine irony when feminists end up with people like Muslims. It seems a common occurrence too. But I guess there are a lot of cognitive dissonances involved with being a feminist as it is.

I hope your situation turns out for the better.

Hahahahaha I see this all the time. The irony and self hypocrisy is astounding. I saw a meme that said “if you go far enough into communism you get your gun rights back” because pro-communists started to promote the use of guns for anyone black. If you go far enough into feminism, you turn into a Muslim. You go far enough into any of the enemy regimes and you turn into everything you thought you were running from.

Jack wrote:

Wildfire wrote:This was also much of a help to me. Now I can hasten the deaths of some past personal enemies of mine.

Whoah there, treading on eggshells.

Umm, please elaborate? I'll gladly take caution.

I just have some people who caused me complete social ruin back in highschool(people who caused me to look stupid, used my hot tempered personality to their advantage, they used me in one school project and stole credit from me. A lot. I became an outcast for two whole academic years because of them. I've always had those people's names in my mind for so long now.), I just thought this would be a useful thread. Maybe I need to be more advanced in order to use the methods stated.

Thank you very much.

Wildfire wrote:

Jack wrote:

Wildfire wrote:This was also much of a help to me. Now I can hasten the deaths of some past personal enemies of mine.

Whoah there, treading on eggshells.

Umm, please elaborate? I'll gladly take caution.

I just have some people who caused me complete social ruin back in highschool(people who caused me to look stupid, used my hot tempered personality to their advantage, they used me in one school project and stole credit from me. A lot. I became an outcast for two whole academic years because of them. I've always had those people's names in my mind for so long now.), I just thought this would be a useful thread. Maybe I need to be more advanced in order to use the methods stated.

Thank you very much.

That's not a very good reason to kill someone. These things happen all the time.

If you want revenge, you can bring about suffering upon these individuals by doing a revenge working. Check the SS calendar in your area for revenge dates.

54 Hagl + 54 Isa + 54 Thurisaz seems good for one person. Youll have to do it for 40 days for one person. After everydays vibrations you need to clean yourself with VISHUDDHI.

Suit your affirmation but theres no need to go overboard.

Wildfire wrote:

Jack wrote:

Wildfire wrote:This was also much of a help to me. Now I can hasten the deaths of some past personal enemies of mine.

Whoah there, treading on eggshells.

Umm, please elaborate? I'll gladly take caution.

I just have some people who caused me complete social ruin back in highschool(people who caused me to look stupid, used my hot tempered personality to their advantage, they used me in one school project and stole credit from me. A lot. I became an outcast for two whole academic years because of them. I've always had those people's names in my mind for so long now.), I just thought this would be a useful thread. Maybe I need to be more advanced in order to use the methods stated.

Thank you very much.

IMO death is too much, you can take revenge in other ways, but taking a life because of teenager beefs is immature and you will regret it in the future.

I guess the signs I've always had along the way on this we're right. I just wanted to know if this was the right thing to do besides getting unknown answers in my head. I knew that I shouldn't go outright into causing people to suicide over their dumb antiques, just because they undermined my social credibility there. I'll just spiritually kick their asses with what Jack recommended then. I hope they'll get a hint.

I hope I can find a way out of the loner's cycle to a normal life, or maybe I must just get used to it. Loneliness can sometimes be a good thing like how I have ways to cope with it. Too much of loneliness however will just drive me nuts and that's not where I must go. Thank you both of you.

Now I see what I should be doing.

Shael wrote:

Δυσδαιμόνα Διαμαντής wrote:I see. Thank you.
I also wanted to use runes first, as usual, but recently I stared to use these (and other) runes in an other working. But later I will try it then.

You can use the same runes in multiple workings without negative effects. Just letting you know in case you arent aware.

Δυσδαιμόνα Διαμαντής wrote:Then also I should rather put the aura of revulsion around the bad person, right?
Too keep that person isolated from my family member.
Maybe I should try to use other methods (too) to keep him isolated or to make him go away.....

When using the runes I recommended, you can use it on your family member safely. When using Vivikta, do it strictly on the bad person instead.

Thank you!
Other question: how many days should one do the working with Addu mantra?

Aquarius wrote:

Wildfire wrote:

Jack wrote: Whoah there, treading on eggshells.

Umm, please elaborate? I'll gladly take caution.

I just have some people who caused me complete social ruin back in highschool(people who caused me to look stupid, used my hot tempered personality to their advantage, they used me in one school project and stole credit from me. A lot. I became an outcast for two whole academic years because of them. I've always had those people's names in my mind for so long now.), I just thought this would be a useful thread. Maybe I need to be more advanced in order to use the methods stated.

Thank you very much.

IMO death is too much, you can take revenge in other ways, but taking a life because of teenager beefs is immature and you will regret it in the future.

It is not difficult to get into problems. The astral is real and is part of physical existence but it is invisible to the naked eye. In the future humanity will see, understand and use the astral and will obviously keep order. I will not speak of justice and injustice. I just want to warn you of consequences that you may not notice. There is the possibility that family members of the victims, based on the events and destinies that will be formed, even subsequent generations, could advance and take revenge. I'm definitely not saying turn the other cheek. Justice is very important but we must not only think about the present but also about the past and the future.

Δυσδαιμόνα Διαμαντής wrote:Other question: how many days should one do the working with Addu mantra?

Usually just the normal 40-90 days depending on the nature of your goal. For bigger goals you may need to do it for 90 days, as well as if you want some permanent result you also have to do this. If you only want to cause something to happen in a singular sense, for example getting some bit of money quick instead of trying to get long-lasting wealth, then you can do less than 40. Those general rules apply to all workings regardless of what you try to do and what mantras you use.

Jack wrote:Most certainly i think i'll be justified to break up a relationship between my cousin sister and her new boyfriend because he's a fucking muslim . This is a disgrace ,i had earlier explained to her in detail why islam was pure evil and how anyone calling himself muslim was complicit in the war against all of us. This girl doesn't seem to have any bonds for our religion ,no understanding of history (even though i explained it to her in detail ) and anything resembling common sense. She also seems to have some sort of weird feminist agenda going on in her mind and hates nationalism. Id go and personally beat up the guy but i don't want to go to jail (if i can solve it non locally ) and create a confrontational situation between her and her family (she's keeping it as a secret from them) which could sully her name. I obtained the images of the guy and i'll start a spell to break them up. Thankfully Shael (a.k.a breaker of worlds) has me covered . This year couldn't go any worse.

Ehhh. Yeah break that shit up, before your cousin ends up in a Burka.

Master wrote:
It is not difficult to get into problems. The astral is real and is part of physical existence but it is invisible to the naked eye. In the future humanity will see, understand and use the astral and will obviously keep order. I will not speak of justice and injustice. I just want to warn you of consequences that you may not notice. There is the possibility that family members of the victims, based on the events and destinies that will be formed, even subsequent generations, could advance and take revenge. I'm definitely not saying turn the other cheek. Justice is very important but we must not only think about the present but also about the past and the future.

Fine. But don't expect me not to get even with those retards who caused me all this pain and are why I ran to the JoS as a victim of social unhealth and injustice.

I won't murder them but make their lives as hard as mine was before, that's even better but not many will be affected. I know their full names up to now ever since they blamed me for failing tests and obeying the school rules like a teacher's pet, not being a part of their degenerate mushroom groups, outcast me because of liking different stuff and most of all beat me up in a restroom when they couldn't stand how I was outshining them in class as the first measures of revenge.

Then they had the upper hand because I was seething with so much inhuman hatred at that point they took advantage to project like crazy and antagonize me which got me in home school, I hated how the school admin and teachers did nothing but believed them and their dumb parents. Some of them laughed at me as I was put in my white room which lasted months, I hated how they shoved anti-erratic pills down my throat. They made me quit and somehow find the JoS. The first signs from the gods that happened to me was that they made my life better through getting me to the meditation sections while they introduced me to more coincidences.

It was at first a path of healing along with a path of pain as I kept holding my grudges, someday to unleash justice once I really get what I promised myself being in here.

The memories of how they ruined me and tore me from someday reaching the stars is unbearable. I want them to have the same experiences as me.

They will still live but I need justice to be done on my own so they will warn their future generations of what not to do to innocent people like me who knows how to smile no matter how lonely I am, on what happens when a positive person is forced to be turned inside and out into his dark self. It's not like they taught me how to deny my happiness which made me loose many screws in the future runs.

Nowadays, I don't really need to be so happy anymore because I grew up and want other problems in my life now done over with. This is why I turned down offers and blended myself in large crowds as much as I can. People still tried to be my friend and now you know why I rejected offers or set perimeters with people. I've also done horrible wrongs which added oil to the flames so now, this is why I'm too scared to get any more related to people, at the same time it got me to hide jealousy seeing other people being happy with each other in which I really can't, because they'll just take it all away and the same problems will happen again and again.

The rtrs and other realizations are opening me up to this. This is why I chose not to bother people too much or let anyone like my past self bother me a lot too.

Wildfire wrote:

Master wrote:
It is not difficult to get into problems. The astral is real and is part of physical existence but it is invisible to the naked eye. In the future humanity will see, understand and use the astral and will obviously keep order. I will not speak of justice and injustice. I just want to warn you of consequences that you may not notice. There is the possibility that family members of the victims, based on the events and destinies that will be formed, even subsequent generations, could advance and take revenge. I'm definitely not saying turn the other cheek. Justice is very important but we must not only think about the present but also about the past and the future.

Fine. But don't expect me not to get even with those retards who caused me all this pain and are why I ran to the JoS as a victim of social unhealth and injustice.

I won't murder them but make their lives as hard as mine was before, that's even better but not many will be affected. I know their full names up to now ever since they blamed me for failing tests and obeying the school rules like a teacher's pet, not being a part of their degenerate mushroom groups, outcast me because of liking different stuff and most of all beat me up in a restroom when they couldn't stand how I was outshining them in class as the first measures of revenge.

Then they had the upper hand because I was seething with so much inhuman hatred at that point they took advantage to project like crazy and antagonize me which got me in home school, I hated how the school admin and teachers did nothing but believed them and their dumb parents. Some of them laughed at me as I was put in my white room which lasted months, I hated how they shoved anti-erratic pills down my throat. They made me quit and somehow find the JoS. The first signs from the gods that happened to me was that they made my life better through getting me to the meditation sections while they introduced me to more coincidences.

It was at first a path of healing along with a path of pain as I kept holding my grudges, someday to unleash justice once I really get what I promised myself being in here.

The memories of how they ruined me and tore me from someday reaching the stars is unbearable. I want them to have the same experiences as me.

They will still live but I need justice to be done on my own so they will warn their future generations of what not to do to innocent people like me who knows how to smile no matter how lonely I am, on what happens when a positive person is forced to be turned inside and out into his dark self. It's not like they taught me how to deny my happiness which made me loose many screws in the future runs.

Nowadays, I don't really need to be so happy anymore because I grew up and want other problems in my life now done over with. This is why I turned down offers and blended myself in large crowds as much as I can. People still tried to be my friend and now you know why I rejected offers or set perimeters with people. I've also done horrible wrongs which added oil to the flames so now, this is why I'm too scared to get any more related to people, at the same time it got me to hide jealousy seeing other people being happy with each other in which I really can't, because they'll just take it all away and the same problems will happen again and again.

The rtrs and other realizations are opening me up to this. This is why I chose not to bother people too much or let anyone like my past self bother me a lot too.

There are many things you can do. An example of great suffering are diseases, they can lead to death but things can also go differently. Whatever you do, the important thing is that you are advanced and wise enough to proceed safely.

Greetings Comrades!
A lady is still in love with me. We were in a relationship for 3 years and now she is engaged to another. They are getting married in ten days. Is it possible to use Aum zAsitR to get her to marry me instead? It is a long story but I assure you, she is marrying out of compulsion. She told me so. My time is short. Please help me.

Blue Fire wrote: ↑

Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:49 am

Greetings Comrades!
A lady is still in love with me. We were in a relationship for 3 years and now she is engaged to another. They are getting married in ten days. Is it possible to use Aum zAsitR to get her to marry me instead? It is a long story but I assure you, she is marrying out of compulsion. She told me so. My time is short. Please help me.

You should be talking to her.