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Re: Ben Klassen?

Postby Ol argedco luciftias » Wed Jun 19, 2019 12:01 am

Don't know who that is or what you're talking about, but you can just look at that name and see! ((((Ben)))) ((((Klassen)))) both of his names look extremely "tribal" to me.

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Re: Ben Klassen?

Postby Sinistra » Wed Jun 19, 2019 9:43 am

Ol argedco luciftias wrote:Don't know who that is or what you're talking about, but you can just look at that name and see! ((((Ben)))) ((((Klassen)))) both of his names look extremely "tribal" to me.

Yeah that seems a real good way to deal with new topics jumping in to trash talk people you admit know nothing about. What's next are you gonna start throwing shit at and accusing of being a jew Nazi Propaganda Minister Goebbels as well because he was named "Paul Joseph" ? How surprising that some gentiles get named based on characters of the jewish bible in the Jewtrix. What's next accusing "Benjamin" Franklin ? How many people are named by their parents Thor or Ares or Dionysus or Shiva in real life ?

Ben Klassen fills a very important niche for the white race post WW2. His Creativity movement was much more advanced on our side then post WW2 neo-nazism which has long been xtianity infected. His material is still very relevent and accurate and in some ways more then when it was written concerning subjects like racial genocide of the white race and anti white racism and discrimination. All of our aryan people should read some of his material at least to get an idea and see the historical context of our race post WW2, especially if they aren't coming from a nazi/neo-nazi background that might benefit them a lot. Klassen's personal limitation was that spiritually he was hating spookcraft and enemy brainwashing so much that he wouldnt consider satanic (pagan) spirituality and witchcraft seriously. He is coming from logical and common sense type constations about the white race and its situation. The JOS is coming from the other direction historically (Satanism and the occult first then showing people how that relates to the material). As a result that allowed it to go much deeper into metaphysics and the occult side however its also been somewhat soft on the racial and material side because people in the JOS come from any background and as a result many noobs were leftists or libertarians etc and cant deal mentally with the idea of any sort of proper cleaning up of the world or any sort of coercion. Spiritual xtian infestation is the real problem which saped the vigor and mental backbone of many people. What we need is more aryan warrior mentality.

"Because remember goy love your enemies and let coackroaches infest and loot your home(land) and rape and kill you and all your people. Even better feed all parasites of the world and love everyone equally. This is good advice for you goy dont you wanna be a good goy ?" - Schlomo Pisraelstein

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Re: Ben Klassen?

Postby Legendary Creature » Wed Jun 19, 2019 6:10 pm

Oak wrote:What is the jos opinion on the little white book? Ave!


There's a free copy in Satan's Library.

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Re: Ben Klassen?

Postby slyscorpion » Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:37 pm

Just a search on wiki on this alone tells me its not something we would be in favor of I dont think. This person is a racial supremicist and while its stated that whites were the chosen people of Satan especially nordics. That doesnt mean we should hate others or try to cause some racial war or something all it means I think is we are the closest descendants to Satan amd thus are more able to tap into that power that is all correct me if I am wrong on this. This guy is a white supremicist it looks like and tries to start conflicts with other races. The JOS believes all races are of Satan and can be great but must advance in their own seperate ways and seperate and have their own leaders and governments. That in fact is what Hitler was trying to do he wasnt trying to be world leader and conquor the world like the communists did. He unlike this guy respected other races and cultures. There are a lot of sermons on this and people of other races fought gladly in his army. Also he appears to strongly be influienced by Xtianity in that he believes whites are made in the image of Jewhova (vomit). Why in the world would we support something like this. While its good people are racially aware or becoming this way no matter what their other beliefs or actions are if they are worshipping Jew on a stick they are still connected to thw Jew thoughtform. They could not do much against the Jews. Look at Islam for example just about everyone in that religion for some reason hates Jews (honestly I think that program backfired on them somehow or is starting too) but they still havent provided much of a solution to it or done anything meaningful against them. They might have killed a few here and there but by and large they are not helping as they are feeding all their energy into the Jew thoughtform and being used often as pawns in their plans.

This xtian stuff is the same way they are still controlled and couldnt do much.

Whatever that book is (i didnt see it listed on here) is not likely helpful and probably contains a lot of enemy stuff.

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Re: Ben Klassen?

Postby Egon » Thu Jun 20, 2019 2:47 am

Oak wrote:What is the jos opinion on the little white book? Ave!

Nature's Eternal Religion is awesome, but Little White Book has a lot of pseudo-historical nonsense writen by someone who does not understand Hitler or NS at all. That was writen by someone of the Creativity Movement but most of it not by Ben Klassen I believe. IMO that is a 3rd class book you should only look at after you're in depth with at least 50% of the most important JoS materials.

Ol argedco luciftias wrote:Don't know who that is or what you're talking about, but you can just look at that name and see! ((((Ben)))) ((((Klassen)))) both of his names look extremely "tribal" to me.

You mean the guy with this name whose many books are in Satan's Library and helped HPS Maxine's creation of the Black Sun 666 website?? Of the same organization she has writen articles for???

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Re: Ben Klassen?

Postby HailVictory88 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:47 am

slyscorpion wrote:...


This is my personal opinion on the matter:
While Klassen and many other non-Xian White Nationalists may seem to take unecessarily harsh attitudes towards other Gentile peoples, the context of what is happening is important. The enemy is trying to completely annihilate the White Race, so many racialists feel they must use forceful rhetoric to wake Whites up. Also, many White Nationalists have seen how other Gentile peoples have been used as weapons against Whites, and this creates resentment (not justifying this, just explaining it). I have been a White Nationalist for years and I genuinely think that most of them are not at all malicious in their views towards other Races. Many of the things they say about other Gentile Races are attempts to vent frustration from living in a massively anti-White culture.

Not saying that mainstream White Nationalists are spiritually aware or perfect, but the attitude an average Stormfront poster has regarding Blacks is far less hateful than the attitude a New York Times journalist takes towards Whites. Many White Nationalists even go out of their way to stress that they don't hate non-White Gentiles and don't want to harm innocent ones. While mainstream media and academia can openly call for innocent Whites to be tortured and killed. Who are the real "haters"?

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Re: Ben Klassen?

Postby The Alchemist7 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 6:13 am

He was an American Nazi and White Nationalist. He recognized the greatness of Nazi Germany and the reality about jews and xianity. He has indeed a lot of valuable information in his books.

His defects was that he wasn't aware of the spiritual/occult side. He knew that xianity was created by jews to enslave humanity but as far as I remember he wasn't aware about the occult behind xianity, which is using the mass energy of xians and muslims to feed the jewish thoughtform until is strong enough to bring the jewish world government into the physical world. He seen xianity only as a material weapon. Another defect was that he had his own religion, which is "creativity'. I noticed this is a fashion in some White Nationalist places. This is kinda useless because people need spirituality and our Gods not only racial separatism.

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Re: Ben Klassen?

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 7:04 am

Ol argedco luciftias wrote:Don't know who that is or what you're talking about, but you can just look at that name and see! ((((Ben)))) ((((Klassen)))) both of his names look extremely "tribal" to me.


Ben Klassen is as White as it gets both in the case of the man and in the case of his work. Klassen is IMO one of the greatest White minds.

There is some bad work done due to the lack of knowledge of the time. As explained in the Library, these books are to be read with the Satanic eye. There is similar Black and other race material around, which is about maintenance of one's race etc. Klassen's sections, especially about Christianity, are all too true and are a polemic against the mental virus of christianity. He is an impeccable writer and thinker.

Klassen is nothing but another writer on racial issues but on top caliber. His writings and reasoning is quality. The way that he writes is also extremely skilled and literate.

Many authors who are "Supremacists" are not like Klassen. Klassen did not advocate direct acts of terrorism or hatred, but he explains why he believes his race is a superior race, has rights to their own territory and historical achievements. He also did something commendable for the time which is dispose xianity in the trash bin of history. Klassen's historical accuracy and sane mindedness make him stand apart from the striking majority of White Advocates who write and act like clowns.

He explains also in his mind why he believes that what he terms as a "Dying Race" [see the demographics projections for 2040 and 2050 and tell me if he is not right] may end up in a situation where they have to fight a war to assert their own existence which will be radical.

His polemic of xianity was one of the most brutal and strongest written in teh movement, exposing this for the jewish mental weapon that it is. Due to constrains of the time, the exposing of it stopped at this level and could not proceed further.

He has had no in-depth spiritual or occult schooling and this is normal given the context of the time. He is a honorable soul for going against judeo-xianity, at the very least, while procuring a racial cause. However, disinformation of xianity that pushed forth itself in other domains, such as the meme that Veganism is so good, has affected him, as it was a nutritional hearsay movement for many people on this day, not just him.

Whites are going through a coma and some writers have used brutal language and even 'hatred' as a means of agitation to get a dying and pillaged people to wake up. The same was practiced by Garvey, even Malcolm X, and other writers, who in the sight of the problems of their race grow angry, and in many cases from their point of view, justified reasons.

I read books from Pan-African black panthers and I can understand why they want most if not all of Africa as their ancestral homelands for themselves as their ancestral homeland, and I will not shed tears over it. It has to be looked within context of past and future as well, not blind emotions. People need homelands to live and establish their own culture for their biorhythm.

When one reads Racialist works, do not expect to open a book and see multiracial Kumbaya in it, and be a man enough and prepared to accept or at least encounter other views. One should take the points and understand what these mean, to awaken for themselves, and discard points which are obsolete and/or dysfunctional. Some of it may also be quite aggressive, but we have to take it for what it is and move on, keeping the actual points and removing the bad.

Spiritual lack of knowledge leads many of these people to brutal actions without point and other plights. So they are not perfect, but they are sources of information and knowledge.

You see the case is ironic, as for example Garvey would be a far better friend with Klassen or Rockwell than any of the so called "Democrats" of today.
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Re: Ben Klassen?

Postby HP Mageson666 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:00 am

The attacks against Klassen, including claiming he was a Jew, all come from the Jew, Harold Covington who infiltrated the WN movement and promoted Christian Identity. It was the CI crowd that always went after Klassen.

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Re: Ben Klassen?

Postby Cowboy123 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 11:48 am

If I recall correctly Garvey praises hitler and Mussolini he met with Klan and other WN groups of the time. He let a white nationalist speak at one of his UNIA meetings. And they wrote in each other’s publications. Malcom x met with the klan also and with George Lincoln Rockwell and the NOI had an agreement with the klan.

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Ol argedco luciftias wrote:Don't know who that is or what you're talking about, but you can just look at that name and see! ((((Ben)))) ((((Klassen)))) both of his names look extremely "tribal" to me.


Ben Klassen is as White as it gets both in the case of the man and in the case of his work. Klassen is IMO one of the greatest White minds.

There is some bad work done due to the lack of knowledge of the time. As explained in the Library, these books are to be read with the Satanic eye. There is similar Black and other race material around, which is about maintenance of one's race etc. Klassen's sections, especially about Christianity, are all too true and are a polemic against the mental virus of christianity. He is an impeccable writer and thinker.

Klassen is nothing but another writer on racial issues but on top caliber. His writings and reasoning is quality. The way that he writes is also extremely skilled and literate.

Many authors who are "Supremacists" are not like Klassen. Klassen did not advocate direct acts of terrorism or hatred, but he explains why he believes his race is a superior race, has rights to their own territory and historical achievements. He also did something commendable for the time which is dispose xianity in the trash bin of history. Klassen's historical accuracy and sane mindedness make him stand apart from the striking majority of White Advocates who write and act like clowns.

He explains also in his mind why he believes that what he terms as a "Dying Race" [see the demographics projections for 2040 and 2050 and tell me if he is not right] may end up in a situation where they have to fight a war to assert their own existence which will be radical.

His polemic of xianity was one of the most brutal and strongest written in teh movement, exposing this for the jewish mental weapon that it is. Due to constrains of the time, the exposing of it stopped at this level and could not proceed further.

He has had no in-depth spiritual or occult schooling and this is normal given the context of the time. He is a honorable soul for going against judeo-xianity, at the very least, while procuring a racial cause. However, disinformation of xianity that pushed forth itself in other domains, such as the meme that Veganism is so good, has affected him, as it was a nutritional hearsay movement for many people on this day, not just him.

Whites are going through a coma and some writers have used brutal language and even 'hatred' as a means of agitation to get a dying and pillaged people to wake up. The same was practiced by Garvey, even Malcolm X, and other writers, who in the sight of the problems of their race grow angry, and in many cases from their point of view, justified reasons.

I read books from Pan-African black panthers and I can understand why they want most if not all of Africa as their ancestral homelands for themselves as their ancestral homeland, and I will not shed tears over it. It has to be looked within context of past and future as well, not blind emotions. People need homelands to live and establish their own culture for their biorhythm.

When one reads Racialist works, do not expect to open a book and see multiracial Kumbaya in it, and be a man enough and prepared to accept or at least encounter other views. One should take the points and understand what these mean, to awaken for themselves, and discard points which are obsolete and/or dysfunctional. Some of it may also be quite aggressive, but we have to take it for what it is and move on, keeping the actual points and removing the bad.

Spiritual lack of knowledge leads many of these people to brutal actions without point and other plights. So they are not perfect, but they are sources of information and knowledge.

You see the case is ironic, as for example Garvey would be a far better friend with Klassen or Rockwell than any of the so called "Democrats" of today.

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Re: Ben Klassen?

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:04 pm

What the establishment hides is that all the so called "Supremacists" were in most cases, if not very good friends, at a far higher level of mutual respect and understanding than most political parties today. Some radicals did some shit here and there but that's it.

Neo-Cohen wars in Iraq, Iran and related, and such as the Republicans and Communists such as "Democratic Socialists" who created mobs like Black Lives Matter or embrace the "Hood Life" have shed a lot more blood, money, and tears, and created far more slaves than all of KKK combined.

The fact the "Progressives" want people to come in droves without any checking for foreign lands and gang members, or ship fentanyl for quick dollars cause Muh Consumerism is going to kill this year more Americans despite of race or religion than any KKK or Black Panther combined over the last three thousand years. Clever people like Rockwell or Garvey understood this.

The jewish theories of assimilation of races and nullifying our existence do lower our understanding and our respect towards each other racially, and cause far more social victims than the so called radicals.
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Re: Ben Klassen?

Postby Ol argedco luciftias » Thu Jun 20, 2019 3:33 pm

Sinistra wrote:....

I missed you, then you finally come back just to be mad at me :cry: Not my fault I never heard of that guy. I have to know the name of everyone in the world and everything that everyone ever done?

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Re: Ben Klassen?

Postby sip » Thu Jun 20, 2019 8:36 pm

Welcome back, great post. Always teaching me something.

Cheers!



Sinistra wrote:
Ol argedco luciftias wrote:Don't know who that is or what you're talking about, but you can just look at that name and see! ((((Ben)))) ((((Klassen)))) both of his names look extremely "tribal" to me.

Yeah that seems a real good way to deal with new topics jumping in to trash talk people you admit know nothing about. What's next are you gonna start throwing shit at and accusing of being a jew Nazi Propaganda Minister Goebbels as well because he was named "Paul Joseph" ? How surprising that some gentiles get named based on characters of the jewish bible in the Jewtrix. What's next accusing "Benjamin" Franklin ? How many people are named by their parents Thor or Ares or Dionysus or Shiva in real life ?

Ben Klassen fills a very important niche for the white race post WW2. His Creativity movement was much more advanced on our side then post WW2 neo-nazism which has long been xtianity infected. His material is still very relevent and accurate and in some ways more then when it was written concerning subjects like racial genocide of the white race and anti white racism and discrimination. All of our aryan people should read some of his material at least to get an idea and see the historical context of our race post WW2, especially if they aren't coming from a nazi/neo-nazi background that might benefit them a lot. Klassen's personal limitation was that spiritually he was hating spookcraft and enemy brainwashing so much that he wouldnt consider satanic (pagan) spirituality and witchcraft seriously. He is coming from logical and common sense type constations about the white race and its situation. The JOS is coming from the other direction historically (Satanism and the occult first then showing people how that relates to the material). As a result that allowed it to go much deeper into metaphysics and the occult side however its also been somewhat soft on the racial and material side because people in the JOS come from any background and as a result many noobs were leftists or libertarians etc and cant deal mentally with the idea of any sort of proper cleaning up of the world or any sort of coercion. Spiritual xtian infestation is the real problem which saped the vigor and mental backbone of many people. What we need is more aryan warrior mentality.

"Because remember goy love your enemies and let coackroaches infest and loot your home(land) and rape and kill you and all your people. Even better feed all parasites of the world and love everyone equally. This is good advice for you goy dont you wanna be a good goy ?" - Schlomo Pisraelstein

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Re: Ben Klassen?

Postby Sinistra » Thu Jun 20, 2019 9:22 pm

Ol argedco luciftias wrote:
Sinistra wrote:....

I missed you, then you finally come back just to be mad at me :cry: Not my fault I never heard of that guy. I have to know the name of everyone in the world and everything that everyone ever done?

Heh. I'm not mad, mildly amused at best.


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