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natalie_lion's_heart wrote:Yeah, you're right, it isn't true.
Transsexual people don't "need to be fixed" and you can't change your physical sex because it is part of your soul's manifestation. For example, a born male Transsexual is born a physical male with a feminine soul and that isn't a 'problem'.
It's literally how Nature designed Transsexuals.
Similar to Homosexuals, they don't need to become the opposite sex just because they are attracted to the same sex.
You should really do more reading before assuming people are 'broken' or wrong for being who they are. I know SS people who would be really hurt by your assumptions.

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HailMotherLilith wrote:I'd like to add one thing, those who are born as hermaphrodites, are the real deal of Transsexual people, but those who are born as a male or female and claim to be trans, are just plain disrespectful, I HATE people like that.....

T.A.O.L. wrote:In the old forum that was shut down there was a post by someone whom underwent trans sugery to change her gender and she/he said that it caused blocks in her sacral chakra.

Also think about this logically. If the Magnum Opus is a transformation or purification of the DNA, then basicly it takes the standard DNA sample that you have and brings out the best of it.
But also, limbs regrow.

If you have (in case you're a male) a y chromosone and not an x what do you think will happen? I think you'll just regrow your penis. If you're a female (x chromosome) you may just regrow your breasts if you've had anything done to them.

Also think about implants. Any implant you'll get will have to come out.

I do not think that your x or y chromosome suddenly change. An Y chromosone is lacking some data and an X chromosome would have too much. This to me seems impossible to erase or change.

Also, the want to change your body sounds like you're just self hating. So what happened that made you hate yourself and wish you were someone else?

T.A.O.L. wrote:In the old forum that was shut down there was a post by someone whom underwent trans sugery to change her gender and she/he said that it caused blocks in her sacral chakra.

Also think about this logically. If the Magnum Opus is a transformation or purification of the DNA, then basicly it takes the standard DNA sample that you have and brings out the best of it.
But also, limbs regrow.

If you have (in case you're a male) a y chromosone and not an x what do you think will happen? I think you'll just regrow your penis. If you're a female (x chromosome) you may just regrow your breasts if you've had anything done to them.

Also think about implants. Any implant you'll get will have to come out.

I do not think that your x or y chromosome suddenly change. An Y chromosone is lacking some data and an X chromosome would have too much. This to me seems impossible to erase or change.

Also, the want to change your body sounds like you're just self hating. So what happened that made you hate yourself and wish you were someone else?

HailMotherLilith wrote:I'd like to add one thing, those who are born as hermaphrodites, are the real deal of Transsexual people, but those who are born as a male or female and claim to be trans, are just plain disrespectful, I HATE people like that.....

Sinistra wrote:...

Academic Scholar wrote:

T.A.O.L. wrote:In the old forum that was shut down there was a post by someone whom underwent trans sugery to change her gender and she/he said that it caused blocks in her sacral chakra.

Also think about this logically. If the Magnum Opus is a transformation or purification of the DNA, then basicly it takes the standard DNA sample that you have and brings out the best of it.
But also, limbs regrow.

If you have (in case you're a male) a y chromosone and not an x what do you think will happen? I think you'll just regrow your penis. If you're a female (x chromosome) you may just regrow your breasts if you've had anything done to them.

Also think about implants. Any implant you'll get will have to come out.

I do not think that your x or y chromosome suddenly change. An Y chromosone is lacking some data and an X chromosome would have too much. This to me seems impossible to erase or change.

Also, the want to change your body sounds like you're just self hating. So what happened that made you hate yourself and wish you were someone else?

Transsexual doesn’t = transition. Many transsexuals never medically transition at all. JoS High Preists and transsexual SS have literally advised against medical transition. Just because someone is transsexual doesn’t mean they have an innate desire to medically transition. The JoS clergy have done dozens of sermons already explaining how transsexuality was regarded as sacred, accepted in pre-abrahamic Pagan times and is accepted in JoS. Transsexuality itself is not something to fix. Have you read the JoS Third Sex book? It’s a free PDF online and goes in-depth on transsexuals, not just intersex (hermaphordite) individuals.

Twin Soul People
Mageson:
I want to comment on the idea of non-hetero people as "twin souled" that is
going around the neo-pagan camps. The idea is that all non-hetero people are
twin souls carry both female and male forms.
Well thats every person on earth the Yin and Yang or positive and negative
currents of the soul.
What this twin soul deal was in the ancient world if one searches the actual
cultures of Gentiles across the planet [hence have nothing in common with neo-
paganism]....
It specifically refers to people who today are called Transgendered, mainly a chick
in a biological dude suit direction.
This was considered a sacred role and the family of such people where considered
blessed and honoured for having such a member in them. These beings served as
High Priestess of Isis in Egypt. etc They where consider to be a living avatar of the
principal of the union of the male and female aspects of the soul. And considered
to have special spiritual attributes.
Trans-People are their own metaphysic. It has nothing to do with people who are
simply non-hetero but still of the gender of their sex.
Note as Danielou proves in his works on the Primordial Tradition. Transsexuals
where always called the third sex in the Pagan world. It was a custom to hire
transsexuals to be part of wedding ceremonies as it was considered good luck as
they where beneficial beings and held a special place of honor in society. Families
of such individuals where considered blessed and favoured by the Gods, and
given extra respects. To be sexually desired or in a relationship with one was a
mark of high social status.
It does seem this extends to Homosexuals as well. The third sex category.
High Priest Jake Carlson:
I'm still looking into transgendered information. From what I understand, the only
choice is the operation(s). Nothing Satanism can't handle.

Mageson:
From looking at things in the ancient Satanic world. Many Transgender people
served as speical clergy to the Gods. They are tales of Odin going as Transgender
to learn the femine rites of the Mysteries as well as the Priests of Isis being
Transgender beings.etc
I studied transgenderism in development psych in school and on my own time. It
seems your right the sex reasignment operation is the final choice for them. And
the great liberation from watching interviews of those who have had it done.
A person has to be strong in this society to go the transformational path in that
sense. A being with that strength belongs in Satanism.
Testimony if a group member:
My experience of being brought to Father Satan was amazing. I learned about
Lilith during a hard time in my life, i was incarcerated at the time. I heard theher
name and was drawn towards her. I was struggling with my selfindentity and
gender expressionism. I went on to read about transgender and it felt so weird
because so many things in the information matched with my feelings. I was
confused about it at the time because i was under control of the xian church and
was attending catholic services. I often wondered why would "god" create me this
way but damn me for feeling like a woman, wanting to be a woman despite my
anatomically male body. I decided one night to pray to Lilith for answers. She
came to me in a dream after my prayer and comforted me telling me that i was
destined to be created this way. I asked why, i told her i didn't want to suffer
eternally for being transgender and i had also mentioned i was bisexual. She
explained to me that the catholic church is a lie and advised methat i stop
attending and work to blaspheme the xian church. She went to explain that Satan
is my true creator and that he made me so he could show the world the beauty
he creates in many forms including transgenders. She explained that many true
faith and roots are in Satanism. She helped me accept being a female in a male
body and set me on my true destined path, leaving me with the words i
remember so clearly, "whether you are straight gay bisexual lesbian or
transgender, Satan, Me, and the other Gods love you for who you are and want
the best for you and to be comfortable with who you are and be strong in your
faith." After those exact words she blessed me in growing in my identity and


empowered me to grow in Satanism and i am forever thankful for thaty. I
occasionally want to cry with tears of joy and gratitude.
Question:
I was wondering the other day about the magnum opus, where it's said that one
of the steps to doing it is breathing the arousal and then the sperm (for men,
obviously) back in, where it is dispensed through the bladder.
But for m2f transsexuals, how can they perform it? Those who have opted for the
full surgery have no sperm to produce and those who have been on years of
hormones, (depending on the person) don't get arousal.
I read it here:
The practice of maithuna in the gnosis is the same as in the East. Gnosis today is
corrupted by xianity since the Roman Empire. The point of sexual transmutation is
to carry sexual energy up the spine this is done by specific pranayama's and
banda's. The ejaculationless style of climax is when all the energy of climax is
carried up the spine and not part out the tip of the penis with the fluid. The
semen is actually reverse ejaculated into the bladder and urinated out later.
http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic ... men#p16329
Mageson:
Sexual energy is the importance. Where does it say anything about conservation
of semen.... The energy is drawn.
Egon Albrecht
The sexual energy is sent fully upwards. The release of semen is not the issue
which is what the celibacy lunatics make it out to be. The semen is still released
later with urination.
Question:
Can one sex reincarnate into another?
Egon Albrecht:
As stated dozens of times, nobody change race or sex through lifetimes. There is
no transition in reincarnation, people always reincarnate male, female or
transexual (which is called twin soul poeple).

About transition (from Transsexual SS):
Transexuality goes into the metaphysical realm and taking hormones and having
surgeries is what the kikes want people to do because it adds problems on top of
problems.
Mageson:
Its in the soul yes but I don't deny ones right to change the body to the other.
Transexual people have my moral support. They where called twin souls in the
ancient world. Which was not the term for Homosexuals.
Question:
Ok so i am straight. But i have been attracted to transgender women. I am almost
30 and Satan has given me a beautiful transgender friend because it was in my
heart. I feel blessed but at the same time does it make me bi?
Answer from Transsexual SS:
as i know if you like MTF girls , it is normal thing , MTF are girls , there is MTF
lesbians , MTF bi and MTF Stright , we all are different , just keep in mind that mtf
are girls. You attracted to girls and mtf girls? Then you are Stright man, and it
seems your girl is Stright too, (she may be a bi), my advice to you just enjoy with
her and tread her like the girl she is, otherwise you will hurt her.

It specifically refers to people who today are called Transgendered, mainly a chick
in a biological dude suit direction.

Twin Soul People
Mageson:
I want to comment on the idea of non-hetero people as "twin souled" that is
going around the neo-pagan camps. The idea is that all non-hetero people are
twin souls carry both female and male forms.
Well thats every person on earth the Yin and Yang or positive and negative
currents of the soul.
What this twin soul deal was in the ancient world if one searches the actual
cultures of Gentiles across the planet [hence have nothing in common with neo-
paganism]....
It specifically refers to people who today are called Transgendered, mainly a chick
in a biological dude suit direction.
This was considered a sacred role and the family of such people where considered
blessed and honoured for having such a member in them. These beings served as
High Priestess of Isis in Egypt. etc They where consider to be a living avatar of the
principal of the union of the male and female aspects of the soul. And considered
to have special spiritual attributes.
Trans-People are their own metaphysic. It has nothing to do with people who are
simply non-hetero but still of the gender of their sex.
Note as Danielou proves in his works on the Primordial Tradition. Transsexuals
where always called the third sex in the Pagan world. It was a custom to hire
transsexuals to be part of wedding ceremonies as it was considered good luck as
they where beneficial beings and held a special place of honor in society. Families
of such individuals where considered blessed and favoured by the Gods, and
given extra respects. To be sexually desired or in a relationship with one was a
mark of high social status.
It does seem this extends to Homosexuals as well. The third sex category.
High Priest Jake Carlson:
I'm still looking into transgendered information. From what I understand, the only
choice is the operation(s). Nothing Satanism can't handle.

Mageson:
From looking at things in the ancient Satanic world. Many Transgender people
served as speical clergy to the Gods. They are tales of Odin going as Transgender
to learn the femine rites of the Mysteries as well as the Priests of Isis being
Transgender beings.etc
I studied transgenderism in development psych in school and on my own time. It
seems your right the sex reasignment operation is the final choice for them. And
the great liberation from watching interviews of those who have had it done.
A person has to be strong in this society to go the transformational path in that
sense. A being with that strength belongs in Satanism.
Testimony if a group member:
My experience of being brought to Father Satan was amazing. I learned about
Lilith during a hard time in my life, i was incarcerated at the time. I heard theher
name and was drawn towards her. I was struggling with my selfindentity and
gender expressionism. I went on to read about transgender and it felt so weird
because so many things in the information matched with my feelings. I was
confused about it at the time because i was under control of the xian church and
was attending catholic services. I often wondered why would "god" create me this
way but damn me for feeling like a woman, wanting to be a woman despite my
anatomically male body. I decided one night to pray to Lilith for answers. She
came to me in a dream after my prayer and comforted me telling me that i was
destined to be created this way. I asked why, i told her i didn't want to suffer
eternally for being transgender and i had also mentioned i was bisexual. She
explained to me that the catholic church is a lie and advised methat i stop
attending and work to blaspheme the xian church. She went to explain that Satan
is my true creator and that he made me so he could show the world the beauty
he creates in many forms including transgenders. She explained that many true
faith and roots are in Satanism. She helped me accept being a female in a male
body and set me on my true destined path, leaving me with the words i
remember so clearly, "whether you are straight gay bisexual lesbian or
transgender, Satan, Me, and the other Gods love you for who you are and want
the best for you and to be comfortable with who you are and be strong in your
faith." After those exact words she blessed me in growing in my identity and


empowered me to grow in Satanism and i am forever thankful for thaty. I
occasionally want to cry with tears of joy and gratitude.
Question:
I was wondering the other day about the magnum opus, where it's said that one
of the steps to doing it is breathing the arousal and then the sperm (for men,
obviously) back in, where it is dispensed through the bladder.
But for m2f transsexuals, how can they perform it? Those who have opted for the
full surgery have no sperm to produce and those who have been on years of
hormones, (depending on the person) don't get arousal.
I read it here:
The practice of maithuna in the gnosis is the same as in the East. Gnosis today is
corrupted by xianity since the Roman Empire. The point of sexual transmutation is
to carry sexual energy up the spine this is done by specific pranayama's and
banda's. The ejaculationless style of climax is when all the energy of climax is
carried up the spine and not part out the tip of the penis with the fluid. The
semen is actually reverse ejaculated into the bladder and urinated out later.
http://josministries.prophpbb.com/topic ... men#p16329
Mageson:
Sexual energy is the importance. Where does it say anything about conservation
of semen.... The energy is drawn.
Egon Albrecht
The sexual energy is sent fully upwards. The release of semen is not the issue
which is what the celibacy lunatics make it out to be. The semen is still released
later with urination.
Question:
Can one sex reincarnate into another?
Egon Albrecht:
As stated dozens of times, nobody change race or sex through lifetimes. There is
no transition in reincarnation, people always reincarnate male, female or
transexual (which is called twin soul poeple).

About transition (from Transsexual SS):
Transexuality goes into the metaphysical realm and taking hormones and having
surgeries is what the kikes want people to do because it adds problems on top of
problems.
Mageson:
Its in the soul yes but I don't deny ones right to change the body to the other.
Transexual people have my moral support. They where called twin souls in the
ancient world. Which was not the term for Homosexuals.
Question:
Ok so i am straight. But i have been attracted to transgender women. I am almost
30 and Satan has given me a beautiful transgender friend because it was in my
heart. I feel blessed but at the same time does it make me bi?
Answer from Transsexual SS:
as i know if you like MTF girls , it is normal thing , MTF are girls , there is MTF
lesbians , MTF bi and MTF Stright , we all are different , just keep in mind that mtf
are girls. You attracted to girls and mtf girls? Then you are Stright man, and it
seems your girl is Stright too, (she may be a bi), my advice to you just enjoy with
her and tread her like the girl she is, otherwise you will hurt her.

It specifically refers to people who today are called Transgendered, mainly a chick
in a biological dude suit direction.

Jack The GOOD guy wrote:I have noticed when heterosexuals like us post in such topics pertaining to the trans people or third gender people in particular , the topic quickly spirals out of control and becomes highly controversial and eventually someone brings up the higher powers. Lets see what the post is, "To the trans* brothers and sisters here, wherever they might be". Yes, its not addressed to us. Lets just bail out before someone feels "Muh Offended."

"Lying about your biology will only cause insanity ."-HP HC

FancyMancy wrote:I won't pretend to understand and be all-knowing about the trans matter, but for a lot of people, doing the meditations and workings to empower and advance themselves would fix their brain. I'm not saying trans is fake, what I meant is that some think they're trans but they're not. Maybe some members and individuals reading this. Having a sex change while not being trans can be very unhealthy and dangerous for their Soul; their Mind and Body had been altered by that point, unhealthily and dangerously already. Plus one thing I always hope trans people do is that they keep a store of their eggs or sperm (not in the fridge at home!) in case they want children in the future.

For those who are trans, then, as I said, I won't pretend to understand it all. They must have a special Soul capable of such things, or maybe it was necessary for a purpose.

Academic Scholar wrote:

HailMotherLilith wrote:I'd like to add one thing, those who are born as hermaphrodites, are the real deal of Transsexual people, but those who are born as a male or female and claim to be trans, are just plain disrespectful, I HATE people like that.....

JoS has stated transsexual people not born intersex are also actual trans people, HP HC only said that hermaphrodities are simply the literal PHYSICAL manifestation of the third sex. I actually personally sent you citations and excerpts from the JoS sites that show transsexual people not born hermaphrodite were accepted in ancient times and are seen as actual trans people in the JoS so I don’t know where you’re getting this from. After my reply with the JoS excerpts HP Mageson then replied to that entire thread stating trans people are a union of the two different sexes in the sense they have the soul opposite of the body.
This has been established and explained by JoS Clergy, in JoS Sermons, by a Third Sex HP, by trans SS, etc. I personally sent you the proof and excerpts. So I’m legit confused here and I don’t know where this is coming from.

Academic Scholar wrote:

HailMotherLilith wrote:I'd like to add one thing, those who are born as hermaphrodites, are the real deal of Transsexual people, but those who are born as a male or female and claim to be trans, are just plain disrespectful, I HATE people like that.....

JoS has stated transsexual people not born intersex are also actual trans people, HP HC only said that hermaphrodities are simply the literal PHYSICAL manifestation of the third sex. I actually personally sent you citations and excerpts from the JoS sites that show transsexual people not born hermaphrodite were accepted in ancient times and are seen as actual trans people in the JoS so I don’t know where you’re getting this from. After my reply with the JoS excerpts HP Mageson then replied to that entire thread stating trans people are a union of the two different sexes in the sense they have the soul opposite of the body.
This has been established and explained by JoS Clergy, in JoS Sermons, by a Third Sex HP, by trans SS, etc. I personally sent you the proof and excerpts. So I’m legit confused here and I don’t know where this is coming from.

Jack The GOOD guy wrote:I have noticed when heterosexuals like us post in such topics pertaining to the trans people or third gender people in particular , the topic quickly spirals out of control and becomes highly controversial and eventually someone brings up the higher powers. Lets see what the post is, "To the trans* brothers and sisters here, wherever they might be". Yes, its not addressed to us. Lets just bail out before someone feels "Muh Offended."

"Lying about your biology will only cause insanity ."-HP HC

HailMotherLilith wrote:...

luis wrote:Honestly if you think about it, why Father Satan should create someone that needs to take a medicine (the hormones) just to feel better? It doesn't make sense, there is something wrong with this.
I feel the only thing that can make you better (in this situation) is (real) spirituality.

And before anyone get mad i'm not saying that being trans is wrong, i'm just saying that the way it's 'cured' is.

zolaluckystar wrote:This is such an explosive topic because as jack said: as soon as others dare to speak on it you're going to get the muh feelings.....but I feel that I need to try.

FancyMancy wrote:

HailMotherLilith wrote:...

I think you've made your point not only clearly but also painfully! Lol.

To you and everyone - chill out on explaining what you meant. Maybe try typing replies differently, and see if that helps to avoid misunderstandings. There is a preview button on forums for a deliberate reason. You can also save relies as drafts and come back to them later, or do it in Notepad and proof-read it a few times before posting your replies.

HailMotherLilith wrote:

Academic Scholar wrote:

HailMotherLilith wrote:I'd like to add one thing, those who are born as hermaphrodites, are the real deal of Transsexual people, but those who are born as a male or female and claim to be trans, are just plain disrespectful, I HATE people like that.....

JoS has stated transsexual people not born intersex are also actual trans people, HP HC only said that hermaphrodities are simply the literal PHYSICAL manifestation of the third sex. I actually personally sent you citations and excerpts from the JoS sites that show transsexual people not born hermaphrodite were accepted in ancient times and are seen as actual trans people in the JoS so I don’t know where you’re getting this from. After my reply with the JoS excerpts HP Mageson then replied to that entire thread stating trans people are a union of the two different sexes in the sense they have the soul opposite of the body.
This has been established and explained by JoS Clergy, in JoS Sermons, by a Third Sex HP, by trans SS, etc. I personally sent you the proof and excerpts. So I’m legit confused here and I don’t know where this is coming from.

I was referring to those who are disrespectful and NOT the real deal of transsexual people.

HailMotherLilith wrote:I am not here to argue, nor feel offended, I was just making a point.

Also, one more thing... SS Community is Family, not cyber-bullying...

Bu family, I mean we are here to support each other, give advice, etc. Not attack each other when somebody is misunderstood about something they wrote,because they are still learning to be understood.

luis wrote:@Sinistra i know that Satan didn't create us directily but if being Trans like being gay, bi, hetero is in the soul than he created that. I don't know if you understand what i'm saying.

I think the way to 'fix' trans is through spiritual balance, i don't think that medicine is the way to go.

Academic Scholar wrote:

HailMotherLilith wrote:

Academic Scholar wrote: JoS has stated transsexual people not born intersex are also actual trans people, HP HC only said that hermaphrodities are simply the literal PHYSICAL manifestation of the third sex. I actually personally sent you citations and excerpts from the JoS sites that show transsexual people not born hermaphrodite were accepted in ancient times and are seen as actual trans people in the JoS so I don’t know where you’re getting this from. After my reply with the JoS excerpts HP Mageson then replied to that entire thread stating trans people are a union of the two different sexes in the sense they have the soul opposite of the body.
This has been established and explained by JoS Clergy, in JoS Sermons, by a Third Sex HP, by trans SS, etc. I personally sent you the proof and excerpts. So I’m legit confused here and I don’t know where this is coming from.

I was referring to those who are disrespectful and NOT the real deal of transsexual people.

Then it was just a misunderstanding >.< I overreacted, sorry

hailourtruegod wrote:

luis wrote:@Sinistra i know that Satan didn't create us directily but if being Trans like being gay, bi, hetero is in the soul than he created that. I don't know if you understand what i'm saying.

I think the way to 'fix' trans is through spiritual balance, i don't think that medicine is the way to go.

Well if you think about it, since he created the soul and the body *is* the physical manifestation of your soul then you wouldn't be wrong if you did say Satan did create our bodies. If you provide said points of course. He's the cause more so. Like if you invent something then from there people created things based on the original format then you're the cause for the continuation of of this product. It's a loose example since Gentile human bodies and souls can't really be compared to anything that is only material but I hope the point I'm trying to make is understood.

Anyone who says that body and soul are not connected in this way are ONLY lying to themselves and are obviously haven't accepted who they are. If there are things that show up physically that are a result of imbalances or trauma in the soul then that can be fixed ONLY thru advancement of spirituality.