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Love Spell

Postby NinRick » Fri May 10, 2019 10:23 pm

So okay now the story:
Currently I am doing a Love spell what I do is, I pull her light body out of her body when she sleeps and I „have sex“ with her. And obviously on climax I do the normal stuff I shoot Bright Energy inside her lightbody and physical body an aura and program it.
It feels like it is super effective. She also said that she is dreaming almost each night about having sex since I started this.

Now the Bad thing she is kinda confused, and obviously I can not tell her what is going on. And she also dreamed having sex with her ex.

So what do you think should I pull out her light body from the very start or should I just direct the energy at her? Is it more effective the way I do it or will I get same results if I do it differently?
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Re: Love Spell

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri May 10, 2019 11:22 pm

Hmmm how about going and seducing her a bit straight up?

Is she getting this for you or in general? If not then stop this as this may lead her to her ex instead. It has to be you.
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Re: Love Spell

Postby Jack » Sat May 11, 2019 3:07 am

You should keep doing this while trying to seduce her. When you pull her out of the body, affirm to her with intent, knowing it is a done deal "You are deeply in love with me. You find me sexually irresistible". This was written in the Love/Sex spell page. Probably you missed it. But this is a very crucial part.

If your in the friend zone, you need to simply break out of it. You need to do that by flirting with her and gradually making sexual innuendos (sexualizing the conversation). Do this gradually and not in one go. For example you say simply " your cute". That's it look her in the eye while you say this. Friend zone destroyed. After talking a little you might say "you have cute eyes." Then after sometime you say. "You look sexy....". See ? Your ramping up the sexuality little by little.
Your also going to be physically touching her. If you haven't done already you need to start doing it so she doesn't freak out afterwards. Little touching on the back of her hand,hold her hand for some time(lightly squeeze it and see if she sqeezes back), hand on thigh, . .......nibble her ear, do some intimate touching when your in a private place leading to" good things."
Just act as you always act, be a little more assertive and inject sexuality and touching that's it. Remember you have to take the charge and make things happen because she won't. When you think she's visibly stimulated, her pupils dilate and she's looking like she's expecting something, looking at your lips, watering her lips ,etc means she's ready. Then you pull her in and you kiss her. Don't ask just do it when you know is the right time. You can apologize afterwards if you gotten the wrong signals, which you won't if you've been talking to the girl for some time and have been hanging around her and you know how she acts and behaves. Remember you have to make it happen and lead.Just do it.
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Re: Love Spell

Postby NinRick » Sat May 11, 2019 9:48 am

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Hmmm how about going and seducing her a bit straight up?

Is she getting this for you or in general? If not then stop this as this may lead her to her ex instead. It has to be you.


Thank you for your advice! Will do that!

She is getting this in general I guess, she didn’t say anything about me.
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Re: Love Spell

Postby NinRick » Sat May 11, 2019 11:18 am

Jack wrote:You should keep doing this while trying to seduce her. When you pull her out of the body, affirm to her with intent, knowing it is a done deal "You are deeply in love with me. You find me sexually irresistible". This was written in the Love/Sex spell page. Probably you missed it. But this is a very crucial part.

If your in the friend zone, you need to simply break out of it. You need to do that by flirting with her and gradually making sexual innuendos (sexualizing the conversation). Do this gradually and not in one go. For example you say simply " your cute". That's it look her in the eye while you say this. Friend zone destroyed. After talking a little you might say "you have cute eyes." Then after sometime you say. "You look sexy....". See ? Your ramping up the sexuality little by little.
Your also going to be physically touching her. If you haven't done already you need to start doing it so she doesn't freak out afterwards. Little touching on the back of her hand,hold her hand for some time(lightly squeeze it and see if she sqeezes back), hand on thigh, . .......nibble her ear, do some intimate touching when your in a private place leading to" good things."
Just act as you always act, be a little more assertive and inject sexuality and touching that's it. Remember you have to take the charge and make things happen because she won't. When you think she's visibly stimulated, her pupils dilate and she's looking like she's expecting something, looking at your lips, watering her lips ,etc means she's ready. Then you pull her in and you kiss her. Don't ask just do it when you know is the right time. You can apologize afterwards if you gotten the wrong signals, which you won't if you've been talking to the girl for some time and have been hanging around her and you know how she acts and behaves. Remember you have to make it happen and lead.Just do it.


Thanks for your reply! Yeah I did this additionally after the sex magick. I will stop pulling her lightbody out of her body from the start and just direct energy inside her body and programm it and additionally I will only pull out her light body when I programm the affirmations in her.
so she doesn't dream about having sex anymore xD

Yeah I guess it is time to step my game up a bit!

I thank you guys for your help!
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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Sat May 11, 2019 2:20 pm

NinRick wrote:So okay now the story:
Currently I am doing a Love spell what I do is, I pull her light body out of her body when she sleeps and I „have sex“ with her. And obviously on climax I do the normal stuff I shoot Bright Energy inside her lightbody and physical body an aura and program it.
It feels like it is super effective. She also said that she is dreaming almost each night about having sex since I started this.

Now the Bad thing she is kinda confused, and obviously I can not tell her what is going on. And she also dreamed having sex with her ex.

So what do you think should I pull out her light body from the very start or should I just direct the energy at her? Is it more effective the way I do it or will I get same results if I do it differently?



let me tell you my female perspective.

I need to fall immediately for a guy, I don't mean in bed, but in lust, love that type of thing.
It never took me about several meetings to figure out if I like somebody or not. It is at first glance. Men who were rejected were trying and keep trying due to their hunting nature, but I was always upfront in regards to 'attraction'. No today is always no. You need to figure out if a 'no' is like some sort of delay or a serious 'no'.

The attraction is there or not. I mean, hopefully, you are not forcing things in a way. Hopefully, you are not, as you will always have to 'maintain' something that wasn't there naturally in the first place. Will be like some sort of struggle which you don't want. And the satisfaction will be only temporary.

My opinion, you want a woman that would see you irresistible from the start, you owe this to yourself. I hope you are not getting into some sort of DANGEROUS AMBITION as you will lose now or later, first of all, a lot of time, energy, then resources...
You need to be proud enough to not see yourself less worthy just because a woman doesn't respond to you as you wish.

I would work on my aura in your place. Program it to attract suitable/compatible partners that would find me 'irresistible' in accordance with my nature AND IN MUTUAL SATISFACTION...this sort of thing. You want a 2-way thing where you don't break your pride but, at the same time, don't 'force' either situations.

You want love to be like a thing that just happens as a natural FLOW sort of magic.

I don't like manipulation when it comes to love, of any sort.

at the same time, I don't mean to discourage you doing your thing either, it is just a perspective.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Sat May 11, 2019 4:18 pm

NinRick wrote:So okay now the story:
Currently I am doing a Love spell what I do is, I pull her light body out of her body when she sleeps and I „have sex“ with her. And obviously on climax I do the normal stuff I shoot Bright Energy inside her lightbody and physical body an aura and program it.
It feels like it is super effective. She also said that she is dreaming almost each night about having sex since I started this.

Now the Bad thing she is kinda confused, and obviously I can not tell her what is going on. And she also dreamed having sex with her ex.

So what do you think should I pull out her light body from the very start or should I just direct the energy at her? Is it more effective the way I do it or will I get same results if I do it differently?


In addition to what I already said, I want to add the following: remember, nobody from this planet is UNIVERSALLY LIKED. This is only a form of immense arrogance and lack of reality.

I saw men claiming, 'I can have any women', yeah indeed you can, but only with strategies, manipulation and falsehood. Is this what we want? To prove our powers over the others, and turn them up into some sort of slaves to our wishes and ambitions? No, we don't. We are better than that.

Plus, what's in it to prove that you can have just anybody? Some sort of ego gratification with lack of superior ethics? If another person is not 'for you' I think you should, generally speaking, take it as it is, without seeing yourself INCAPABLE OR UNWORTHY and - Move to the next 'target', that's it.

I really believe in mutual things not only for the love of ethics but for the authentic satisfaction that can come out.
Just because YOU CAN do anything and have power over the others doesn't mean you should abuse this. Care for what the 'significant other' is seeking out of life, as well, maybe that person has different needs or preferences;

Speak with that lady find out what she is all about, women are not mystical creatures, you can speak with them openly- what is she looking for 'in a man' let's say, or life in general? How well do you know her? See if you fit there in the big picture, but genuinely, without compromising at the same time, your own needs and aspirations.

Unfortunately, sometimes EVEN ATTRACTION BY ITSELF IS NOT ENOUGH FOR THINGS TO WORK OUT. Some people would want to check this sort of aspects (compatibility on other levels) before emerging in a sexual act. I personally see it pointless as I like to see everything emerging from the attraction to the next aspects - because when things go well in bed (which is essential), people can work out, around other differences. STILL, all things are dependable what so ever and complementary, overall.

I personally don't have any satisfaction just to manipulate, spiritually, financially, emotionally, etc I don't like it, it is false and will turn up eventually into a disaster.

I write this just in case you want this person with any price ignoring other aspects. just in case.
Consider everything!
Put yourself first, but remember love is in 2 whatsoever.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby FancyMancy » Sat May 11, 2019 4:28 pm

Make sure you don't:

  1. come across as creepy,
  2. get yourself arrested or beaten-up
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Re: Love Spell

Postby NinRick » Sat May 11, 2019 8:25 pm

sunrise wrote:
NinRick wrote:So okay now the story:
Currently I am doing a Love spell what I do is, I pull her light body out of her body when she sleeps and I „have sex“ with her. And obviously on climax I do the normal stuff I shoot Bright Energy inside her lightbody and physical body an aura and program it.
It feels like it is super effective. She also said that she is dreaming almost each night about having sex since I started this.

Now the Bad thing she is kinda confused, and obviously I can not tell her what is going on. And she also dreamed having sex with her ex.

So what do you think should I pull out her light body from the very start or should I just direct the energy at her? Is it more effective the way I do it or will I get same results if I do it differently?


In addition to what I already said, I want to add the following: remember, nobody from this planet is UNIVERSALLY LIKED. This is only a form of immense arrogance and lack of reality.

I saw men claiming, 'I can have any women', yeah indeed you can, but only with strategies, manipulation and falsehood. Is this what we want? To prove our powers over the others, and turn them up into some sort of slaves to our wishes and ambitions? No, we don't. We are better than that.

Plus, what's in it to prove that you can have just anybody? Some sort of ego gratification with lack of superior ethics? If another person is not 'for you' I think you should, generally speaking, take it as it is, without seeing yourself INCAPABLE OR UNWORTHY and - Move to the next 'target', that's it.

I really believe in mutual things not only for the love of ethics but for the authentic satisfaction that can come out.
Just because YOU CAN do anything and have power over the others doesn't mean you should abuse this. Care for what the 'significant other' is seeking out of life, as well, maybe that person has different needs or preferences;

Speak with that lady find out what she is all about, women are not mystical creatures, you can speak with them openly- what is she looking for 'in a man' let's say, or life in general? How well do you know her? See if you fit there in the big picture, but genuinely, without compromising at the same time, your own needs and aspirations.

Unfortunately, sometimes EVEN ATTRACTION BY ITSELF IS NOT ENOUGH FOR THINGS TO WORK OUT. Some people would want to check this sort of aspects (compatibility on other levels) before emerging in a sexual act. I personally see it pointless as I like to see everything emerging from the attraction to the next aspects - because when things go well in bed (which is essential), people can work out, around other differences. STILL, all things are dependable what so ever and complementary, overall.

I personally don't have any satisfaction just to manipulate, spiritually, financially, emotionally, etc I don't like it, it is false and will turn up eventually into a disaster.

I write this just in case you want this person with any price ignoring other aspects. just in case.
Consider everything!
Put yourself first, but remember love is in 2 whatsoever.


Thanks Sunrise. I read everything you had to say I will keep it in mind. You probably care about me since I am your brother in Satan, I really appreciate that :)
Stand tall, be proud, be strong - you are a part of Satan's House!

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Re: Love Spell

Postby NinRick » Sat May 11, 2019 8:26 pm

FancyMancy wrote:Make sure you don't:

  1. come across as creepy,
  2. get yourself arrested or beaten-up

That’s the idea man :D
I might need to work on the first point tho
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Re: Love Spell

Postby Jack » Sun May 12, 2019 1:50 am

sunrise wrote:
NinRick wrote:So okay now the story:
Currently I am doing a Love spell what I do is, I pull her light body out of her body when she sleeps and I „have sex“ with her. And obviously on climax I do the normal stuff I shoot Bright Energy inside her lightbody and physical body an aura and program it.
It feels like it is super effective. She also said that she is dreaming almost each night about having sex since I started this.

Now the Bad thing she is kinda confused, and obviously I can not tell her what is going on. And she also dreamed having sex with her ex.

So what do you think should I pull out her light body from the very start or should I just direct the energy at her? Is it more effective the way I do it or will I get same results if I do it differently?



let me tell you my female perspective.

I need to fall immediately for a guy, I don't mean in bed, but in lust, love that type of thing.
It never took me about several meetings to figure out if I like somebody or not. It is at first glance. Men who were rejected were trying and keep trying due to their hunting nature, but I was always upfront in regards to 'attraction'. No today is always no. You need to figure out if a 'no' is like some sort of delay or a serious 'no'.

The attraction is there or not. I mean, hopefully, you are not forcing things in a way. Hopefully, you are not, as you will always have to 'maintain' something that wasn't there naturally in the first place. Will be like some sort of struggle which you don't want. And the satisfaction will be only temporary.

My opinion, you want a woman that would see you irresistible from the start, you owe this to yourself. I hope you are not getting into some sort of DANGEROUS AMBITION as you will lose now or later, first of all, a lot of time, energy, then resources...
You need to be proud enough to not see yourself less worthy just because a woman doesn't respond to you as you wish.

I would work on my aura in your place. Program it to attract suitable/compatible partners that would find me 'irresistible' in accordance with my nature AND IN MUTUAL SATISFACTION...this sort of thing. You want a 2-way thing where you don't break your pride but, at the same time, don't 'force' either situations.

You want love to be like a thing that just happens as a natural FLOW sort of magic.

I don't like manipulation when it comes to love, of any sort.

at the same time, I don't mean to discourage you doing your thing either, it is just a perspective.

Love can be developed gradually. I think what your describing here is lust, that genetic attraction you get for high value dudes. If you then keep thinking about this it might turn into love.
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Re: Love Spell

Postby FancyMancy » Sun May 12, 2019 6:47 am

NinRick wrote:
FancyMancy wrote:Make sure you don't:

  1. come across as creepy,
  2. get yourself arrested or beaten-up

That’s the idea man :D
I might need to work on the first point tho

Good luck! I expect a first-edition copy of your Love Life Autobiography regarding this in a few years' time! :P Signed autograph, of course! :P
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Re: Love Spell

Postby Catalincata94 » Sun May 12, 2019 11:42 am

sunrise wrote:
NinRick wrote:So okay now the story:
Currently I am doing a Love spell what I do is, I pull her light body out of her body when she sleeps and I „have sex“ with her. And obviously on climax I do the normal stuff I shoot Bright Energy inside her lightbody and physical body an aura and program it.
It feels like it is super effective. She also said that she is dreaming almost each night about having sex since I started this.

Now the Bad thing she is kinda confused, and obviously I can not tell her what is going on. And she also dreamed having sex with her ex.

So what do you think should I pull out her light body from the very start or should I just direct the energy at her? Is it more effective the way I do it or will I get same results if I do it differently?


In addition to what I already said, I want to add the following: remember, nobody from this planet is UNIVERSALLY LIKED. This is only a form of immense arrogance and lack of reality.

I saw men claiming, 'I can have any women', yeah indeed you can, but only with strategies, manipulation and falsehood. Is this what we want? To prove our powers over the others, and turn them up into some sort of slaves to our wishes and ambitions? No, we don't. We are better than that.

Plus, what's in it to prove that you can have just anybody? Some sort of ego gratification with lack of superior ethics? If another person is not 'for you' I think you should, generally speaking, take it as it is, without seeing yourself INCAPABLE OR UNWORTHY and - Move to the next 'target', that's it.

I really believe in mutual things not only for the love of ethics but for the authentic satisfaction that can come out.
Just because YOU CAN do anything and have power over the others doesn't mean you should abuse this. Care for what the 'significant other' is seeking out of life, as well, maybe that person has different needs or preferences;

Speak with that lady find out what she is all about, women are not mystical creatures, you can speak with them openly- what is she looking for 'in a man' let's say, or life in general? How well do you know her? See if you fit there in the big picture, but genuinely, without compromising at the same time, your own needs and aspirations.

Unfortunately, sometimes EVEN ATTRACTION BY ITSELF IS NOT ENOUGH FOR THINGS TO WORK OUT. Some people would want to check this sort of aspects (compatibility on other levels) before emerging in a sexual act. I personally see it pointless as I like to see everything emerging from the attraction to the next aspects - because when things go well in bed (which is essential), people can work out, around other differences. STILL, all things are dependable what so ever and complementary, overall.

I personally don't have any satisfaction just to manipulate, spiritually, financially, emotionally, etc I don't like it, it is false and will turn up eventually into a disaster.

I write this just in case you want this person with any price ignoring other aspects. just in case.
Consider everything!
Put yourself first, but remember love is in 2 whatsoever.


I agree that there is something like "love at first sight" i had this many times also the other person and it's a good idea to program the aura to attract a compatible partner. But spiritual manipulation? i think maxine said that sex magick creates true love i've did this and it worked great and why it worked? because i was really in love with that person. She was like comming to me in that moment if i make a sign that i want that but didn't do it because she was younger than me and minor so i had to stop but it definetly works and not because of manipulation. another time i tried on another girl that i liked and didn't worked (i think because i wasn't realy in to her) but she got a burst of energy from that orgasmic energy xD (i did it only once in both cases)

I have the impression that you were in new age sort of things before, i'm just curious.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Sun May 12, 2019 1:06 pm

NinRick wrote:
sunrise wrote:
NinRick wrote:So okay now the story:
Currently I am doing a Love spell what I do is, I pull her light body out of her body when she sleeps and I „have sex“ with her. And obviously on climax I do the normal stuff I shoot Bright Energy inside her lightbody and physical body an aura and program it.
It feels like it is super effective. She also said that she is dreaming almost each night about having sex since I started this.

Now the Bad thing she is kinda confused, and obviously I can not tell her what is going on. And she also dreamed having sex with her ex.

So what do you think should I pull out her light body from the very start or should I just direct the energy at her? Is it more effective the way I do it or will I get same results if I do it differently?


In addition to what I already said, I want to add the following: remember, nobody from this planet is UNIVERSALLY LIKED. This is only a form of immense arrogance and lack of reality.

I saw men claiming, 'I can have any women', yeah indeed you can, but only with strategies, manipulation and falsehood. Is this what we want? To prove our powers over the others, and turn them up into some sort of slaves to our wishes and ambitions? No, we don't. We are better than that.

Plus, what's in it to prove that you can have just anybody? Some sort of ego gratification with lack of superior ethics? If another person is not 'for you' I think you should, generally speaking, take it as it is, without seeing yourself INCAPABLE OR UNWORTHY and - Move to the next 'target', that's it.

I really believe in mutual things not only for the love of ethics but for the authentic satisfaction that can come out.
Just because YOU CAN do anything and have power over the others doesn't mean you should abuse this. Care for what the 'significant other' is seeking out of life, as well, maybe that person has different needs or preferences;

Speak with that lady find out what she is all about, women are not mystical creatures, you can speak with them openly- what is she looking for 'in a man' let's say, or life in general? How well do you know her? See if you fit there in the big picture, but genuinely, without compromising at the same time, your own needs and aspirations.

Unfortunately, sometimes EVEN ATTRACTION BY ITSELF IS NOT ENOUGH FOR THINGS TO WORK OUT. Some people would want to check this sort of aspects (compatibility on other levels) before emerging in a sexual act. I personally see it pointless as I like to see everything emerging from the attraction to the next aspects - because when things go well in bed (which is essential), people can work out, around other differences. STILL, all things are dependable what so ever and complementary, overall.

I personally don't have any satisfaction just to manipulate, spiritually, financially, emotionally, etc I don't like it, it is false and will turn up eventually into a disaster.

I write this just in case you want this person with any price ignoring other aspects. just in case.
Consider everything!
Put yourself first, but remember love is in 2 whatsoever.


Thanks Sunrise. I read everything you had to say I will keep it in mind. You probably care about me since I am your brother in Satan, I really appreciate that :)


not probably, for sure

all right love, good luck then,
keep us updated

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Re: Love Spell

Postby NinRick » Sun May 12, 2019 6:55 pm

Jack wrote:
sunrise wrote:
NinRick wrote:So okay now the story:
Currently I am doing a Love spell what I do is, I pull her light body out of her body when she sleeps and I „have sex“ with her. And obviously on climax I do the normal stuff I shoot Bright Energy inside her lightbody and physical body an aura and program it.
It feels like it is super effective. She also said that she is dreaming almost each night about having sex since I started this.

Now the Bad thing she is kinda confused, and obviously I can not tell her what is going on. And she also dreamed having sex with her ex.

So what do you think should I pull out her light body from the very start or should I just direct the energy at her? Is it more effective the way I do it or will I get same results if I do it differently?



let me tell you my female perspective.

I need to fall immediately for a guy, I don't mean in bed, but in lust, love that type of thing.
It never took me about several meetings to figure out if I like somebody or not. It is at first glance. Men who were rejected were trying and keep trying due to their hunting nature, but I was always upfront in regards to 'attraction'. No today is always no. You need to figure out if a 'no' is like some sort of delay or a serious 'no'.

The attraction is there or not. I mean, hopefully, you are not forcing things in a way. Hopefully, you are not, as you will always have to 'maintain' something that wasn't there naturally in the first place. Will be like some sort of struggle which you don't want. And the satisfaction will be only temporary.

My opinion, you want a woman that would see you irresistible from the start, you owe this to yourself. I hope you are not getting into some sort of DANGEROUS AMBITION as you will lose now or later, first of all, a lot of time, energy, then resources...
You need to be proud enough to not see yourself less worthy just because a woman doesn't respond to you as you wish.

I would work on my aura in your place. Program it to attract suitable/compatible partners that would find me 'irresistible' in accordance with my nature AND IN MUTUAL SATISFACTION...this sort of thing. You want a 2-way thing where you don't break your pride but, at the same time, don't 'force' either situations.

You want love to be like a thing that just happens as a natural FLOW sort of magic.

I don't like manipulation when it comes to love, of any sort.

at the same time, I don't mean to discourage you doing your thing either, it is just a perspective.

Love can be developed gradually. I think what your describing here is lust, that genetic attraction you get for high value dudes. If you then keep thinking about this it might turn into love.


Yeah I think you need to feel lust and love for a person to have a good and permanent relationship.
Also sex is very important.
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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Sun May 12, 2019 7:27 pm

Jack wrote:
sunrise wrote:
NinRick wrote:So okay now the story:
Currently I am doing a Love spell what I do is, I pull her light body out of her body when she sleeps and I „have sex“ with her. And obviously on climax I do the normal stuff I shoot Bright Energy inside her lightbody and physical body an aura and program it.
It feels like it is super effective. She also said that she is dreaming almost each night about having sex since I started this.

Now the Bad thing she is kinda confused, and obviously I can not tell her what is going on. And she also dreamed having sex with her ex.

So what do you think should I pull out her light body from the very start or should I just direct the energy at her? Is it more effective the way I do it or will I get same results if I do it differently?



let me tell you my female perspective.

I need to fall immediately for a guy, I don't mean in bed, but in lust, love that type of thing.
It never took me about several meetings to figure out if I like somebody or not. It is at first glance. Men who were rejected were trying and keep trying due to their hunting nature, but I was always upfront in regards to 'attraction'. No today is always no. You need to figure out if a 'no' is like some sort of delay or a serious 'no'.

The attraction is there or not. I mean, hopefully, you are not forcing things in a way. Hopefully, you are not, as you will always have to 'maintain' something that wasn't there naturally in the first place. Will be like some sort of struggle which you don't want. And the satisfaction will be only temporary.

My opinion, you want a woman that would see you irresistible from the start, you owe this to yourself. I hope you are not getting into some sort of DANGEROUS AMBITION as you will lose now or later, first of all, a lot of time, energy, then resources...
You need to be proud enough to not see yourself less worthy just because a woman doesn't respond to you as you wish.

I would work on my aura in your place. Program it to attract suitable/compatible partners that would find me 'irresistible' in accordance with my nature AND IN MUTUAL SATISFACTION...this sort of thing. You want a 2-way thing where you don't break your pride but, at the same time, don't 'force' either situations.

You want love to be like a thing that just happens as a natural FLOW sort of magic.

I don't like manipulation when it comes to love, of any sort.

at the same time, I don't mean to discourage you doing your thing either, it is just a perspective.

Love can be developed gradually. I think what your describing here is lust, that genetic attraction you get for high value dudes. If you then keep thinking about this it might turn into love.




Sex appeal is everything. You see a woman you are attracted, you fall in love.
First, let's make a distinction between 'FALLING' aka lust and that deep love you are talking about. There are two different aspects. Two different things BUT they emerge one from the other.

If you fall 'gradually' then it is something artificial there.

Falling in love is ONLY at first sight. Never at the 2nd, 3rd.

If, you don't initially fall, or have that sort of lust, don't tell me you will eventually love deeply that person one day. You can't.
Unless you do it for the sake of being in a couple with a person which you came to the LOGICAL and/or INTELECTUAL conclusion (after some time in a friendship), that you can work out something together.
Which is again, artificial.
it Is like ...ok, we look fine together socially, etc logically speaking, we seem to match = let's be together. I see zero sparklings here.

When in fact you should do this (all the logical process) AFTER you initially 'fell'.

I will go even deeper than that. Let me tell a short story. I once a long time ago fall for a guy, Didn't know shit about him. He was a journalist, writing shit, Read an article. Fall immediately. Didn't know how he looked like, didn't even care. Meet him shortly after this. This exemplary was a mirror for me physically, NOT only that I liked the way he 'thinks' hence the appreciation for the so-called articles, but IT CAME OUT TO BE A MIRROR OF MY PHYSICAL TRAITS. From here on, an incredible love story emerged.

So, the metaphysical aspect of love is quite complex but simple at the same time. It is spiritual in its essence. I don't know. I would like to be able to explain it like math, the same with the fact that I would like to know EXACTLY how energy works.

So again, you cannot fall gradually, but gradually you can love more or less, depending on the evolution of other aspects, and levels.

I Know people who fall bit by bit but something artificial is there, something BORING. If you need time to figure out what you feel for somebody is really nothing there, you feel it or not.
BUT and at the end, what you do with that 'feeling' is another story.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Sun May 12, 2019 7:32 pm

Catalincata94 wrote:
sunrise wrote:
NinRick wrote:So okay now the story:
Currently I am doing a Love spell what I do is, I pull her light body out of her body when she sleeps and I „have sex“ with her. And obviously on climax I do the normal stuff I shoot Bright Energy inside her lightbody and physical body an aura and program it.
It feels like it is super effective. She also said that she is dreaming almost each night about having sex since I started this.

Now the Bad thing she is kinda confused, and obviously I can not tell her what is going on. And she also dreamed having sex with her ex.

So what do you think should I pull out her light body from the very start or should I just direct the energy at her? Is it more effective the way I do it or will I get same results if I do it differently?


In addition to what I already said, I want to add the following: remember, nobody from this planet is UNIVERSALLY LIKED. This is only a form of immense arrogance and lack of reality.

I saw men claiming, 'I can have any women', yeah indeed you can, but only with strategies, manipulation and falsehood. Is this what we want? To prove our powers over the others, and turn them up into some sort of slaves to our wishes and ambitions? No, we don't. We are better than that.

Plus, what's in it to prove that you can have just anybody? Some sort of ego gratification with lack of superior ethics? If another person is not 'for you' I think you should, generally speaking, take it as it is, without seeing yourself INCAPABLE OR UNWORTHY and - Move to the next 'target', that's it.

I really believe in mutual things not only for the love of ethics but for the authentic satisfaction that can come out.
Just because YOU CAN do anything and have power over the others doesn't mean you should abuse this. Care for what the 'significant other' is seeking out of life, as well, maybe that person has different needs or preferences;

Speak with that lady find out what she is all about, women are not mystical creatures, you can speak with them openly- what is she looking for 'in a man' let's say, or life in general? How well do you know her? See if you fit there in the big picture, but genuinely, without compromising at the same time, your own needs and aspirations.

Unfortunately, sometimes EVEN ATTRACTION BY ITSELF IS NOT ENOUGH FOR THINGS TO WORK OUT. Some people would want to check this sort of aspects (compatibility on other levels) before emerging in a sexual act. I personally see it pointless as I like to see everything emerging from the attraction to the next aspects - because when things go well in bed (which is essential), people can work out, around other differences. STILL, all things are dependable what so ever and complementary, overall.

I personally don't have any satisfaction just to manipulate, spiritually, financially, emotionally, etc I don't like it, it is false and will turn up eventually into a disaster.

I write this just in case you want this person with any price ignoring other aspects. just in case.
Consider everything!
Put yourself first, but remember love is in 2 whatsoever.


I agree that there is something like "love at first sight" i had this many times also the other person and it's a good idea to program the aura to attract a compatible partner. But spiritual manipulation? i think maxine said that sex magick creates true love i've did this and it worked great and why it worked? because i was really in love with that person. She was like comming to me in that moment if i make a sign that i want that but didn't do it because she was younger than me and minor so i had to stop but it definetly works and not because of manipulation. another time i tried on another girl that i liked and didn't worked (i think because i wasn't realy in to her) but she got a burst of energy from that orgasmic energy xD (i did it only once in both cases)

I have the impression that you were in new age sort of things before, i'm just curious.


No, my sweet Cata, I wasn't in any sort of new age shit.

What I tried to say is about FORCING FEELINGS UPON OTHERS WHICH ARE NOT THERE INITIALLY JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT, OR YOU CAN, WITH ZERO CONSIDERATION FOR THE OTHER.

I agree sex magic can INCREASE but what is ALREADY there. That's all. I HATE AMBITIONS MEN YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND AN HONEST AND SINCERE 'NO'. Please read carefully all my comments above, my English is not perfect

LOVE IS IN 2. RESPECT FOR THE OTHER IS ESSENTIAL IF YOU WANT A LONG TERM, SERIOUS AND ETHICAL RELATIONSHIP.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Sun May 12, 2019 10:07 pm

Now gentlemen, allow me to have the last comment on this subject. Speaking about love is boring anyhow

Now, this is the reason why some of you get into the so-called FRIEND ZONE. You are too slow to make your move. You missed the 'moment'. Chase the fuckin' moment and act quick
You need to act when the things are 'warm-up' and don't be afraid to come up like freaks! This is nonsense. Make your intentions clear asap, see what happens, doesn't happen. move to the next and so on and so forth. After all, you are 'hunters'.
Learn how to act when 'the tension' is there, without fear, I repeat, a lot of men are stupid on this regard

On a general note, Doing magic on somebody who is not mutually interested, not even a tiny bit, is abusive. Doing magic for your own gain is great, but again, love is in 2, another is involved, so think about this, is even disrespectful for your own pride after all.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby FancyMancy » Mon May 13, 2019 12:09 am

sunrise wrote:Speaking about love is boring

Is your wife one who sings to you the lyrics We don't need no education? Surely only then you would find talking about love boring.

After all, you are 'hunters'.
Learn how to act when 'the tension' is there, without fear,

You're making it sound like a Klingon sex ritual. All praise be to Kayless! Let's go bite them on their face to tell them we want them beastly-like.

On a general note, Doing magic on somebody who is not mutually interested, not even a tiny bit, is abusive. Doing magic for your own gain is great, but again, love is in 2, another is involved, so think about this, is even disrespectful for your own pride after all.

Magick is a shortcut. Flirting alone is like trying to make someone be attracted to you/look at you in ways you wish they would look at you. What's the difference, except that Magick is an extra help? If we shouldn't Magick someone into fancying us, then why should we flirt with and woo someone for the same goal/reason/intention?
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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Mon May 13, 2019 1:19 am

FancyMancy wrote:
sunrise wrote:Speaking about love is boring

Is your wife one who sings to you the lyrics We don't need no education? Surely only then you would find talking about love boring.

After all, you are 'hunters'.
Learn how to act when 'the tension' is there, without fear,

You're making it sound like a Klingon sex ritual. All praise be to Kayless! Let's go bite them on their face to tell them we want them beastly-like.

On a general note, Doing magic on somebody who is not mutually interested, not even a tiny bit, is abusive. Doing magic for your own gain is great, but again, love is in 2, another is involved, so think about this, is even disrespectful for your own pride after all.

Magick is a shortcut. Flirting alone is like trying to make someone be attracted to you/look at you in ways you wish they would look at you. What's the difference, except that Magick is an extra help? If we shouldn't Magick someone into fancying us, then why should we flirt with and woo someone for the same goal/reason/intention?


Lol. Hopefully, all your questions are rhetorical as I made my stance already and I am not much in useless blah blah blah.

What you do, OR people decide to do, after all, IS WHAT THE FUCK THEY WANT TO DO, AT THE END.

Maybe I am more earthly in this regard, I don't know.

If you are rejected you should move on, not start performing magic on the person changing his first initial response/reaction to you.
is that easy. something wasn't right there in the first place.

I am like: you like me - I like you, not the type of 'i will make you like me' or 'you should make me like you' or 'how can I make you like me?'
too complicated. useless.

For me, things need to be 1.simple and 2. already there and FLOW. For most women actually.

Do your shortcuts as you wish, those days if is up to some of you, girls should actually eventually jump on you, why the fuck even bother anymore? shortcuts shortcuts shortcuts that's 21 century all about.

I have said that if she is responding aka a flirt is a good sign to add some magic as well. BUT is she is not interested at all? - is a different story.
and flirting is an act of enhancing yourself, not to make the other 'look at you in ways you wish they would look at you' THIS IS MANIPULATION, AND FAKE - is that hard to actually be yourself? we need to fall for real beings, not personas/masks.

Do I see my opinion as absolute? No. is this becoming boring? yes.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Mon May 13, 2019 3:16 am

FancyMancy wrote:
sunrise wrote:Speaking about love is boring

Is your wife one who sings to you the lyrics We don't need no education? Surely only then you would find talking about love boring.

After all, you are 'hunters'.
Learn how to act when 'the tension' is there, without fear,

You're making it sound like a Klingon sex ritual. All praise be to Kayless! Let's go bite them on their face to tell them we want them beastly-like.

On a general note, Doing magic on somebody who is not mutually interested, not even a tiny bit, is abusive. Doing magic for your own gain is great, but again, love is in 2, another is involved, so think about this, is even disrespectful for your own pride after all.

Magick is a shortcut. Flirting alone is like trying to make someone be attracted to you/look at you in ways you wish they would look at you. What's the difference, except that Magick is an extra help? If we shouldn't Magick someone into fancying us, then why should we flirt with and woo someone for the same goal/reason/intention?




People are so fake these days, dear Mancy since they have this sick mindset of appearing in a specific light in front of the others.
Authenticity is dead.

This why you see so many FAKE relationships based on nothing. those people don't know themselves and don't know the other. Only masks everywhere

This why so many couples are DESPERATE to change each other. Because the have no fucking idea on who the fall in love in the first place. It is all an amalgam of whatever.

take my word as it is, be yourself, present yourself genuinely to the potential partners. Make them do the same. Start a healthy relationship.
Don't manipulate people spiritually or otherwise to see you in a specific light which is different from what you are in reality.

magic can be used to increase whatever feeling that they already are. Magic can help to seal what is already there, to preserve, to heal a couple, to enhance yourself and your best assets in their eyes. But if you use magic to pretend to be something entirely different, you are zero.

And Mancy please, leave this DRINESS AND ATTITUDE for other members who are willing to eat your shit. If you cannot address me in a decent manner WITH CLASS, please do avoid talking to me, this street attitude is not appealing.

What you should actually do considering your dryness is meditate in the water element. A bit of charm could help you immensely.

Another advice for you is to actively read what people have to tell you/ write, you seem to jump very fast, this is not ok.

also, Mancy start reading more than you write. People who write more than reading are extremely stupid, it is not your case as you have potential, you just need to control your urge a tiny bit as you have serious errors in your logic, somehow you think deep inside that having 1000000 active comments are making you some sort of guru on all subjects, which leads me to the next point, be more humble, is really the case.

remember I don't have your training nor your time, but I am catching up and develop the gut to over-explain myself. And please stop fragmenting my text like that, it proves shit is not always a way to analyze.

thank you, Mancy

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Re: Love Spell

Postby Jack » Mon May 13, 2019 5:20 am

sunrise wrote:
Catalincata94 wrote:
sunrise wrote:
In addition to what I already said, I want to add the following: remember, nobody from this planet is UNIVERSALLY LIKED. This is only a form of immense arrogance and lack of reality.

I saw men claiming, 'I can have any women', yeah indeed you can, but only with strategies, manipulation and falsehood. Is this what we want? To prove our powers over the others, and turn them up into some sort of slaves to our wishes and ambitions? No, we don't. We are better than that.

Plus, what's in it to prove that you can have just anybody? Some sort of ego gratification with lack of superior ethics? If another person is not 'for you' I think you should, generally speaking, take it as it is, without seeing yourself INCAPABLE OR UNWORTHY and - Move to the next 'target', that's it.

I really believe in mutual things not only for the love of ethics but for the authentic satisfaction that can come out.
Just because YOU CAN do anything and have power over the others doesn't mean you should abuse this. Care for what the 'significant other' is seeking out of life, as well, maybe that person has different needs or preferences;

Speak with that lady find out what she is all about, women are not mystical creatures, you can speak with them openly- what is she looking for 'in a man' let's say, or life in general? How well do you know her? See if you fit there in the big picture, but genuinely, without compromising at the same time, your own needs and aspirations.

Unfortunately, sometimes EVEN ATTRACTION BY ITSELF IS NOT ENOUGH FOR THINGS TO WORK OUT. Some people would want to check this sort of aspects (compatibility on other levels) before emerging in a sexual act. I personally see it pointless as I like to see everything emerging from the attraction to the next aspects - because when things go well in bed (which is essential), people can work out, around other differences. STILL, all things are dependable what so ever and complementary, overall.

I personally don't have any satisfaction just to manipulate, spiritually, financially, emotionally, etc I don't like it, it is false and will turn up eventually into a disaster.

I write this just in case you want this person with any price ignoring other aspects. just in case.
Consider everything!
Put yourself first, but remember love is in 2 whatsoever.


I agree that there is something like "love at first sight" i had this many times also the other person and it's a good idea to program the aura to attract a compatible partner. But spiritual manipulation? i think maxine said that sex magick creates true love i've did this and it worked great and why it worked? because i was really in love with that person. She was like comming to me in that moment if i make a sign that i want that but didn't do it because she was younger than me and minor so i had to stop but it definetly works and not because of manipulation. another time i tried on another girl that i liked and didn't worked (i think because i wasn't realy in to her) but she got a burst of energy from that orgasmic energy xD (i did it only once in both cases)

I have the impression that you were in new age sort of things before, i'm just curious.


No, my sweet Cata, I wasn't in any sort of new age shit.

What I tried to say is about FORCING FEELINGS UPON OTHERS WHICH ARE NOT THERE INITIALLY JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT, OR YOU CAN, WITH ZERO CONSIDERATION FOR THE OTHER.

I agree sex magic can INCREASE but what is ALREADY there. That's all. I HATE AMBITIONS MEN YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND AN HONEST AND SINCERE 'NO'. Please read carefully all my comments above, my English is not perfect

LOVE IS IN 2. RESPECT FOR THE OTHER IS ESSENTIAL IF YOU WANT A LONG TERM, SERIOUS AND ETHICAL RELATIONSHIP.

Sorry but we'll keep doing the Love magick spells as we feel right within our personal powers. We do not believe in this pseudo moralistic debacle. Thnx
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Re: Love Spell

Postby Jack » Mon May 13, 2019 6:06 am

sunrise wrote:
Jack wrote:
sunrise wrote:

let me tell you my female perspective.

I need to fall immediately for a guy, I don't mean in bed, but in lust, love that type of thing.
It never took me about several meetings to figure out if I like somebody or not. It is at first glance. Men who were rejected were trying and keep trying due to their hunting nature, but I was always upfront in regards to 'attraction'. No today is always no. You need to figure out if a 'no' is like some sort of delay or a serious 'no'.

The attraction is there or not. I mean, hopefully, you are not forcing things in a way. Hopefully, you are not, as you will always have to 'maintain' something that wasn't there naturally in the first place. Will be like some sort of struggle which you don't want. And the satisfaction will be only temporary.

My opinion, you want a woman that would see you irresistible from the start, you owe this to yourself. I hope you are not getting into some sort of DANGEROUS AMBITION as you will lose now or later, first of all, a lot of time, energy, then resources...
You need to be proud enough to not see yourself less worthy just because a woman doesn't respond to you as you wish.

I would work on my aura in your place. Program it to attract suitable/compatible partners that would find me 'irresistible' in accordance with my nature AND IN MUTUAL SATISFACTION...this sort of thing. You want a 2-way thing where you don't break your pride but, at the same time, don't 'force' either situations.

You want love to be like a thing that just happens as a natural FLOW sort of magic.

I don't like manipulation when it comes to love, of any sort.

at the same time, I don't mean to discourage you doing your thing either, it is just a perspective.

Love can be developed gradually. I think what your describing here is lust, that genetic attraction you get for high value dudes. If you then keep thinking about this it might turn into love.




Sex appeal is everything. You see a woman you are attracted, you fall in love.
First, let's make a distinction between 'FALLING' aka lust and that deep love you are talking about. There are two different aspects. Two different things BUT they emerge one from the other.

If you fall 'gradually' then it is something artificial there.

Falling in love is ONLY at first sight. Never at the 2nd, 3rd.

If, you don't initially fall, or have that sort of lust, don't tell me you will eventually love deeply that person one day. You can't.
Unless you do it for the sake of being in a couple with a person which you came to the LOGICAL and/or INTELECTUAL conclusion (after some time in a friendship), that you can work out something together.
Which is again, artificial.
it Is like ...ok, we look fine together socially, etc logically speaking, we seem to match = let's be together. I see zero sparklings here.

When in fact you should do this (all the logical process) AFTER you initially 'fell'.

I will go even deeper than that. Let me tell a short story. I once a long time ago fall for a guy, Didn't know shit about him. He was a journalist, writing shit, Read an article. Fall immediately. Didn't know how he looked like, didn't even care. Meet him shortly after this. This exemplary was a mirror for me physically, NOT only that I liked the way he 'thinks' hence the appreciation for the so-called articles, but IT CAME OUT TO BE A MIRROR OF MY PHYSICAL TRAITS. From here on, an incredible love story emerged.

So, the metaphysical aspect of love is quite complex but simple at the same time. It is spiritual in its essence. I don't know. I would like to be able to explain it like math, the same with the fact that I would like to know EXACTLY how energy works.

So again, you cannot fall gradually, but gradually you can love more or less, depending on the evolution of other aspects, and levels.

I Know people who fall bit by bit but something artificial is there, something BORING. If you need time to figure out what you feel for somebody is really nothing there, you feel it or not.
BUT and at the end, what you do with that 'feeling' is another story.

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1)Sex appeal is 'not' everything. I do think many girls I see everyday are sexy but I am 'not' in love with all of them.
2) Love does not happen on first sight. First probably you get sexually attarcted. Or by some chance you get to know each other and then get sexually attracted. Love is not a linear process. Falling in first sight almost never happens (only in Hollywood movies.)
3) 'Falling' is love. Lust is simply 'sexual attraction' that you can have for any being walking past you on the street. Doesn't mean you love them.
4) Love does not generally happen at first sight,it starts with either lust or getting to know you. Sometimes even both things don't happen and sudden from a very small minute detail a girl falls in love, sometimes in seconds. Its not logical. It just happens. People who've been friends for a long time suddenly become lovers or lovers fall out of love. Happens all the time. There's literally no way to tell as it depends on the individual. There's nothing artificial here.
5) You just contradicted yourself. You said sex appeal is must then you say you suddenly fell for a guy you haven't even seen ? Lol
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Re: Love Spell

Postby Jack » Mon May 13, 2019 6:10 am

sunrise wrote:
Catalincata94 wrote:
sunrise wrote:
In addition to what I already said, I want to add the following: remember, nobody from this planet is UNIVERSALLY LIKED. This is only a form of immense arrogance and lack of reality.

I saw men claiming, 'I can have any women', yeah indeed you can, but only with strategies, manipulation and falsehood. Is this what we want? To prove our powers over the others, and turn them up into some sort of slaves to our wishes and ambitions? No, we don't. We are better than that.

Plus, what's in it to prove that you can have just anybody? Some sort of ego gratification with lack of superior ethics? If another person is not 'for you' I think you should, generally speaking, take it as it is, without seeing yourself INCAPABLE OR UNWORTHY and - Move to the next 'target', that's it.

I really believe in mutual things not only for the love of ethics but for the authentic satisfaction that can come out.
Just because YOU CAN do anything and have power over the others doesn't mean you should abuse this. Care for what the 'significant other' is seeking out of life, as well, maybe that person has different needs or preferences;

Speak with that lady find out what she is all about, women are not mystical creatures, you can speak with them openly- what is she looking for 'in a man' let's say, or life in general? How well do you know her? See if you fit there in the big picture, but genuinely, without compromising at the same time, your own needs and aspirations.

Unfortunately, sometimes EVEN ATTRACTION BY ITSELF IS NOT ENOUGH FOR THINGS TO WORK OUT. Some people would want to check this sort of aspects (compatibility on other levels) before emerging in a sexual act. I personally see it pointless as I like to see everything emerging from the attraction to the next aspects - because when things go well in bed (which is essential), people can work out, around other differences. STILL, all things are dependable what so ever and complementary, overall.

I personally don't have any satisfaction just to manipulate, spiritually, financially, emotionally, etc I don't like it, it is false and will turn up eventually into a disaster.

I write this just in case you want this person with any price ignoring other aspects. just in case.
Consider everything!
Put yourself first, but remember love is in 2 whatsoever.


I agree that there is something like "love at first sight" i had this many times also the other person and it's a good idea to program the aura to attract a compatible partner. But spiritual manipulation? i think maxine said that sex magick creates true love i've did this and it worked great and why it worked? because i was really in love with that person. She was like comming to me in that moment if i make a sign that i want that but didn't do it because she was younger than me and minor so i had to stop but it definetly works and not because of manipulation. another time i tried on another girl that i liked and didn't worked (i think because i wasn't realy in to her) but she got a burst of energy from that orgasmic energy xD (i did it only once in both cases)

I have the impression that you were in new age sort of things before, i'm just curious.


No, my sweet Cata, I wasn't in any sort of new age shit.

What I tried to say is about FORCING FEELINGS UPON OTHERS WHICH ARE NOT THERE INITIALLY JUST BECAUSE YOU WANT, OR YOU CAN, WITH ZERO CONSIDERATION FOR THE OTHER.

I agree sex magic can INCREASE but what is ALREADY there. That's all. I HATE AMBITIONS MEN YOU CAN'T COMPREHEND AN HONEST AND SINCERE 'NO'. Please read carefully all my comments above, my English is not perfect

LOVE IS IN 2. RESPECT FOR THE OTHER IS ESSENTIAL IF YOU WANT A LONG TERM, SERIOUS AND ETHICAL RELATIONSHIP.

Feelings come and go. Its not a permanent things. Couples fall put of love often and people suddenly develop feelings for someone often . Happens all the time. This is not 'forcing' anyone to do anything. Giving a clear pure sense of energy for seeking connection is one of the more transparent ways to convey your feelings. There's nothing more ethical than this.
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Re: Love Spell

Postby Jack » Mon May 13, 2019 6:23 am

sunrise wrote:Now gentlemen, allow me to have the last comment on this subject. Speaking about love is boring anyhow

Now, this is the reason why some of you get into the so-called FRIEND ZONE. You are too slow to make your move. You missed the 'moment'. Chase the fuckin' moment and act quick
You need to act when the things are 'warm-up' and don't be afraid to come up like freaks! This is nonsense. Make your intentions clear asap, see what happens, doesn't happen. move to the next and so on and so forth. After all, you are 'hunters'.
Learn how to act when 'the tension' is there, without fear, I repeat, a lot of men are stupid on this regard

On a general note, Doing magic on somebody who is not mutually interested, not even a tiny bit, is abusive. Doing magic for your own gain is great, but again, love is in 2, another is involved, so think about this, is even disrespectful for your own pride after all.

Also it seems like you speak from unfortunate experience. But we're not all like 'that' pussy
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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Mon May 13, 2019 6:56 am

FancyMancy wrote:
sunrise wrote:Speaking about love is boring

Is your wife one who sings to you the lyrics We don't need no education? Surely only then you would find talking about love boring.

After all, you are 'hunters'.
Learn how to act when 'the tension' is there, without fear,

You're making it sound like a Klingon sex ritual. All praise be to Kayless! Let's go bite them on their face to tell them we want them beastly-like.

On a general note, Doing magic on somebody who is not mutually interested, not even a tiny bit, is abusive. Doing magic for your own gain is great, but again, love is in 2, another is involved, so think about this, is even disrespectful for your own pride after all.

Magick is a shortcut. Flirting alone is like trying to make someone be attracted to you/look at you in ways you wish they would look at you. What's the difference, except that Magick is an extra help? If we shouldn't Magick someone into fancying us, then why should we flirt with and woo someone for the same goal/reason/intention?



I am an open book, I don't like to hide whatever I think or feel or dissimulate. I don't need a second impression on yourself.
what you did with the 'biting thing' you mentioned is simply taking what I said, in another context, in another topic, where I said 'I bite my enemies faces' and extrapolated in this topic with no relevance what so ever but simply attacking. Why the hell are you attacking me so subtly? this is rhetorical.

You see fancy I don't need friendships around here as they are not entirely real but at the same time, I hope for a comfy staying without idiots jumping at my neck. I am extremely fair in my dealings and considerate.

What can I say, call this attitude of yours, smart? it's simply cheap so it's your character, and leads me to the conclusion that MORE of this sort can be expected from you, so I am better off. You are a kind of person which I, in normal life would not even meet, not to mention, speak with. hopefully, I am not hurting those emotions which you lack. That's the misfortune, some people are dragging you to their level and beating you with experience. I don't mind going down to speak with you I just don't want this to be repeated in another fashion or continued. It is draining me as I don't earn anything out of it. Just a big waste of time and energy.

I hope for this place quality. I hope for this place new members to come in and feel comfortable. I hope for this place even when people disagree to do it PROPERLY AND ELEGANTLY.
You in this regards are a little hypocrite, so stay away from me from now on. This is not an emotional response of mine, it is simply logical as I see people like you entire dangerous and sneaky.

you are not an opponent for me mancy, you are a stupid undeveloped brother which is DRAINING people out since you profoundly lack water/emotion. You are becoming some sort of a vampire in this regard so be aware of whatever advice I gave you as it's pertinent and will help you in the future.
In the end, do me the favour of not addressing me at all since I will simply not read or reply. Go to school, read a book, do something constructive with your life.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby NinRick » Mon May 13, 2019 12:12 pm

sunrise wrote:Now gentlemen, allow me to have the last comment on this subject. Speaking about love is boring anyhow

Now, this is the reason why some of you get into the so-called FRIEND ZONE. You are too slow to make your move. You missed the 'moment'. Chase the fuckin' moment and act quick
You need to act when the things are 'warm-up' and don't be afraid to come up like freaks! This is nonsense. Make your intentions clear asap, see what happens, doesn't happen. move to the next and so on and so forth. After all, you are 'hunters'.
Learn how to act when 'the tension' is there, without fear, I repeat, a lot of men are stupid on this regard

On a general note, Doing magic on somebody who is not mutually interested, not even a tiny bit, is abusive. Doing magic for your own gain is great, but again, love is in 2, another is involved, so think about this, is even disrespectful for your own pride after all.


Thanks for sharing your opinion, I totally agree with you.
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Re: Love Spell

Postby Aquarius » Mon May 13, 2019 2:44 pm

This thread is becoming a “this is love-no this is love- you’re wrong this is love” guys love is interpreted in different ways by everybody, no reason to get heated over this.




HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:.........
Hp I believe people would really benefit to know if doing a love spell on somebody clueless is moral or not. I tried to come up with an answer but really can’t come up with one. Could you enlighten us since no Hp ever spoke about it?
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Re: Love Spell

Postby FancyMancy » Mon May 13, 2019 3:29 pm

sunrise wrote:And Mancy please, leave this DRINESS AND ATTITUDE for other members who are willing to eat your shit. If you cannot address me in a decent manner WITH CLASS, please do avoid talking to me, this street attitude is not appealing.

I am not "of the streets", dawg (or because you said you're a Girl, then I'm not of the streets, bitch, meant as the female version of "dogs" who are 'of the streets'). I speak how I speak - if you decide that it offends you or makes you bored or whatever, that's your interpretation. I don't speak shit. You call yourself sunrise yet you are so "Earthy" as you say. Are you full of bright energy or are you ground and compacted so tightly that you can't consider other ideas? Go eat your own shit.

What you should actually do considering your dryness is meditate in the water element. A bit of charm could help you immensely.

As per usual, I can neither confirm nor deny my Astrology and Elemental make-up; your interpretations, be them objective or subjective, clouds your thinking - saying I am talking shit. Try learning class and charm yourself. You should know that I have fun on this forum, which is difficult for a lot of people to do because they are so wound-up and religious with "rules" and "regulations" and restrictions. Look in the mirror and take your own advice, big boy.

also, Mancy start reading more than you write. People who write more than reading are extremely stupid, it is not your case as you have potential, you just need to control your urge a tiny bit as you have serious errors in your logic, somehow you think deep inside that having 1000000 active comments are making you some sort of guru on all subjects, which leads me to the next point, be more humble, is really the case.

I didn't realise you watch my every move 24/7. I never once claimed I know everything about everything. Read my other posts and see mistakes I have made, etc. Again - take your own advice. Then take your own advice again and see where I ask questions a lot.

remember I don't have your training nor your time, but I am catching up and develop the gut to over-explain myself. And please stop fragmenting my text like that, it proves shit is not always a way to analyze.
Your text is still intact in your replies, and I reply to parts I reply to to make it obvious what I am replying to, obviously. Go cry to everyone else who splits replies up into parts to reply to different parts.

Then go to the Goddess who a member told about on the other forum who was into open-relationships, who flirted with that member but wouldn't 'give him some', with which he had to try and sleep and ignore Her, disappointed and probably 'unfulfilled', if you catch my drift, while she was sleeping Astrally with one person on each side of him...where his Guardian Daemon, or a God he was working with, said that He didn't like that Goddess. Go to Her and complain about the way She is sexually and in relationships. You have your opinions and that is your prerogative, but don't come here telling me I am talking shit and not reading things, that I need to be charming and classy when you ignore things which are extremely easy to see by looking at my posts.

I do wonder (but then I decided soon after) why you decided to "have the last comment on this subject". Is that because you are compacted too tightly (closed-minded) and not willing to expand and consider other things? You might be very Earthy, as you said, but there needs to be a balance, and forums like this need to be done in ways to help each other, not to berate each other, calling us shit-talkers and saying we're boring, not charming, and not classy. You are closed-minded and don't give a shit about things which do not conform to your (or perhaps "your" in the sense that you're misinformed/brainwashed severely) opinion. A member on the other forum once replied to me directly - opinions can be wrong. I'll let you decide regarding that, but it's quite obvious what you have decided already.

I am not here to tell people to think in this way, that way or the other way. I ask questions to help - or at least try to help - anyone reading to consider things, which they might not have considered before; of course, other questions are for my own help and benefit; then you come along, lolling in my face sarcastically, saying that you hope my questions are rhetorical, you being ignorant, telling me I'm boring, telling me I'm not reading enough, telling me I'm not charming and telling me I'm not classy. At this point I might say "Get ti fuck", but perhaps - perhaps - you should be given the benefit of the doubt.

thank you, Mancy

You don't have such authority to speak like that. You and I have not agreed, made a covenant, nor signed anything to say that you can have such authority like that over me. Your arrogance is exuberant. Sometimes, Earth needs to be tilled and broken up with gardening tools, such as forks. Your flowerbed seems rather barren at the moment. Have a good or have a shit day.

sunrise wrote:I don't need a second impression on yourself.
what you did with the 'biting thing' you mentioned is simply taking what I said, in another context, in another topic, where I said 'I bite my enemies faces' and extrapolated in this topic with no relevance what so ever but simply attacking. Why the hell are you attacking me so subtly? this is rhetorical.

I did not refer it to any other post you have made. If you see my posts, you'll see I mention sci fi quite a lot, in reference to things. I have also said why I do that - so I will let you see my posts to find out the reason why I do that, and I am not attacking you. I was being silly. Your interpretations need to be corrected. You say,

I am an open book, I don't like to hide whatever I think or feel or dissimulate.

yet you are a biased autobiography. When someone or some few try and be biographies about you, or just are being silly, then you take that personally and say it's an attack. Look at my replies to luis recently - I am joking to him about him being scared or frightened. It's humour. It's a joke. It's fun/funny. It's silliness. You need to till your Earth and dig out all of the shit in your flowerbed. - Call that an attack or call it advice; you decide.

You see fancy I don't need friendships around here as they are not entirely real but at the same time, I hope for a comfy staying without idiots jumping at my neck. I am extremely fair in my dealings and considerate.

Extremely fair and considering by calling me:

  1. boring
  2. uncharming
  3. unclassy
  4. rhetorical
  5. an idiot
  6. an attacker
  7. ...
while also laughing in my face, being sarcastic, closed-minded, lying saying you're an open-book... Do I need to go on? You're delusional. Again - feel attacked or feel observed; only you can decide that. Notice that I have not said these types of things until after you accused me of things first, so don't bother crying about nonsense accusations, etc.

What can I say, call this attitude of yours, smart? it's simply cheap so it's your character, and leads me to the conclusion that MORE of this sort can be expected from you, so I am better off. You are a kind of person which I, in normal life would not even meet, not to mention, speak with. hopefully, I am not hurting those emotions which you lack.

Again - your ignorance and closed-mindedness is unbounded. Perhaps you chose to not read, or you did read but then ignored, my Emotions thread which I have had in my siggie for the last 6 million years. Yes - that's hyperbole/rhetoric/exaggeration. If you have read my posts, you'd know these things about me, so please - I beg you - please continue to be closed-minded and delusional.

That's the misfortune, some people are dragging you to their level and beating you with experience. I don't mind going down to speak with you I just don't want this to be repeated in another fashion or continued. It is draining me as I don't earn anything out of it. Just a big waste of time and energy.

Indeed. Arrogance - or perhaps in your case, conceit - is very energy-consuming. If you don't want to expend any more, then you know where the door is. No-one is forcing you to be this trolly in your replies; you can simply not reply and save face, save yourself the upset.

hope for this place quality. I hope for this place new members to come in and feel comfortable. I hope for this place even when people disagree to do it PROPERLY AND ELEGANTLY.

How should I reply to this? "You should have Just Said No, kid"? "You are quite well-trained in your troll acting"? "You are so delusional that you actually believe you are all-wise"? Perhaps I should ask it in this way - "Did you actually believe, or were you truly naïve enough to think, that you know what the fuck you are blathering on about?!".

You in this regards are a little hypocrite, so stay away from me from now on. This is not an emotional response of mine, it is simply logical as I see people like you entire dangerous and sneaky.

How, exactly, am I "a little hypocrite"? What have I said and not done? If you want me to "stay away from you", then don't reply to me. You say it is logical and not emotional, but you seem to be very wrong in this thread - and not only with me replying to you, then you go on to attack me while being "open" and "considerate". Your mind is muddled and confused with what you think is right and what you project of yourself. Allow me to turn one of your questions back onto you - why are you attacking me? Why do you continue to call me things when I asked a question and referred to something humourously, and then gave an alternative view? If this is not an emotional reply by you, then your 3 replies to my one reply about why you are feeling victimised with what I said, in the same way I speak on here, must be killing you.

you are not an opponent for me mancy, you are a stupid undeveloped brother which is DRAINING people out since you profoundly lack water/emotion.

Is that so? You make me laugh. You think you are so clever. Do I have too much Fire and Air and Earth, instead? On the Internet, no-one knows you're a dog. Capiche? Not an opponent? Then why reply like this? Allow every other member and person who read this forum to come and reply, or make a thread, and tell me how draining I am to all of those people, instead of just you and only you. I'll be waiting.

You are becoming some sort of a vampire in this regard so be aware of whatever advice I gave you as it's pertinent and will help you in the future.

What advice is that? To be charming and classy, despite me being as much as mere text, emoticons and some pictures/videos/memes will allow online? Being stupid, rhetorical, boring, vampirish, attacking, idiotic, unclassy, uncharming, shit-talking...? That's not advice.

In the end, do me the favour of not addressing me at all since I will simply not read or reply. Go to school, read a book, do something constructive with your life.

Nope. Not emotional at all. Do yourself a favour and leave and don't bother coming back.

This thread and my replies are about Love Spell/sex/relationships, and you took it to be an attack against you, saying you are an open book and you are considerate, which is irrelevant. No. Not an emotional response from you at all. I would say you should be a comedian, but instead I'll say - don't quit your day job.

Again,

sunrise wrote:I don't need a second impression on yourself.
what you did with the 'biting thing' you mentioned is simply taking what I said, in another context, in another topic, where I said 'I bite my enemies faces' and extrapolated in this topic with no relevance what so ever but simply attacking. Why the hell are you attacking me so subtly? this is rhetorical.

I did not refer it to any other post you have made. Do you think I go around looking at everyone's posts and referring everything they say to every other thing they say? Oh, yeah, that's extremely logical. Your logic, V.I.K.I., is undeniable. Live long and prosper.

I will simply not read or reply.

Well, maybe I shouldn't give you the benefit of the doubt, then - fuck off and stay away.

In your first reply to this thread you said,

let me tell you my female perspective.

Saying that you need to fall for males. I replied to you later, asking if your wife is... Is that not silly, or are you just too sensitive? - That is a rhetorical question.

Men who were rejected were trying and keep trying due to their hunting nature

After all, you are 'hunters'.

No wonder you're a misandrist - but I invite you to get impregnated by another woman. Your opinion has been, either partly or entirely, fucked up by the types you've been hanging around. Obviously, you've not met other types of non-hunting-nature males. Yes - you are closed-minded. You think you're an open book and considerate. You have a lot to learn about objectivity. Do you also cry to HPHC, who said something like honest and direct, objective replies are often met with muh huwt feewings? Visit my Emotions thread and don't be ignorant nor a slave to subjectivity. Oops. Sorry. You said you're going to ignore me, so enjoy your wallowing in self-pity. As for you - I would not like to know where the sun doesn't shine.

First you replied "lol" to me - the very first (non)word you replied to me, then you changed and got so upset with things. That's not considerate, objective, nor logical. Chill out and go and have a walk in a park and meet some non-hunter-nature males to give you a proper perspective.
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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Mon May 13, 2019 9:16 pm

Aquarius wrote:This thread is becoming a “this is love-no this is love- you’re wrong this is love” guys love is interpreted in different ways by everybody, no reason to get heated over this.




HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:.........
Hp I believe people would really benefit to know if doing a love spell on somebody clueless is moral or not. I tried to come up with an answer but really can’t come up with one. Could you enlighten us since no Hp ever spoke about it?



Aquarius, don't try stupid tricks and tactics with me. leave the HPs alone. Formulate your own opinions and preferences. this is not kindergarten. you have a mind of your own; we are individuals.

Now I won't debate more on the topic as I said everything I had to say. and even 1000000 more words on it.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby Shael » Mon May 13, 2019 10:33 pm

FancyMancy wrote:
sunrise wrote:And Mancy please, leave this DRINESS AND ATTITUDE for other members who are willing to eat your shit. If you cannot address me in a decent manner WITH CLASS, please do avoid talking to me, this street attitude is not appealing.

I am not "of the streets", dawg (or because you said you're a Girl, then I'm not of the streets, bitch, meant as the female version of "dogs" who are 'of the streets'). I speak how I speak - if you decide that it offends you or makes you bored or whatever, that's your interpretation. I don't speak shit. You call yourself sunrise yet you are so "Earthy" as you say. Are you full of bright energy or are you ground and compacted so tightly that you can't consider other ideas? Go eat your own shit.

What you should actually do considering your dryness is meditate in the water element. A bit of charm could help you immensely.

As per usual, I can neither confirm nor deny my Astrology and Elemental make-up; your interpretations, be them objective or subjective, clouds your thinking - saying I am talking shit. Try learning class and charm yourself. You should know that I have fun on this forum, which is difficult for a lot of people to do because they are so wound-up and religious with "rules" and "regulations" and restrictions. Look in the mirror and take your own advice, big boy.

also, Mancy start reading more than you write. People who write more than reading are extremely stupid, it is not your case as you have potential, you just need to control your urge a tiny bit as you have serious errors in your logic, somehow you think deep inside that having 1000000 active comments are making you some sort of guru on all subjects, which leads me to the next point, be more humble, is really the case.

I didn't realise you watch my every move 24/7. I never once claimed I know everything about everything. Read my other posts and see mistakes I have made, etc. Again - take your own advice. Then take your own advice again and see where I ask questions a lot.

remember I don't have your training nor your time, but I am catching up and develop the gut to over-explain myself. And please stop fragmenting my text like that, it proves shit is not always a way to analyze.
Your text is still intact in your replies, and I reply to parts I reply to to make it obvious what I am replying to, obviously. Go cry to everyone else who splits replies up into parts to reply to different parts.

Then go to the Goddess who a member told about on the other forum who was into open-relationships, who flirted with that member but wouldn't 'give him some', with which he had to try and sleep and ignore Her, disappointed and probably 'unfulfilled', if you catch my drift, while she was sleeping Astrally with one person on each side of him...where his Guardian Daemon, or a God he was working with, said that He didn't like that Goddess. Go to Her and complain about the way She is sexually and in relationships. You have your opinions and that is your prerogative, but don't come here telling me I am talking shit and not reading things, that I need to be charming and classy when you ignore things which are extremely easy to see by looking at my posts.

I do wonder (but then I decided soon after) why you decided to "have the last comment on this subject". Is that because you are compacted too tightly (closed-minded) and not willing to expand and consider other things? You might be very Earthy, as you said, but there needs to be a balance, and forums like this need to be done in ways to help each other, not to berate each other, calling us shit-talkers and saying we're boring, not charming, and not classy. You are closed-minded and don't give a shit about things which do not conform to your (or perhaps "your" in the sense that you're misinformed/brainwashed severely) opinion. A member on the other forum once replied to me directly - opinions can be wrong. I'll let you decide regarding that, but it's quite obvious what you have decided already.

I am not here to tell people to think in this way, that way or the other way. I ask questions to help - or at least try to help - anyone reading to consider things, which they might not have considered before; of course, other questions are for my own help and benefit; then you come along, lolling in my face sarcastically, saying that you hope my questions are rhetorical, you being ignorant, telling me I'm boring, telling me I'm not reading enough, telling me I'm not charming and telling me I'm not classy. At this point I might say "Get ti fuck", but perhaps - perhaps - you should be given the benefit of the doubt.

thank you, Mancy

You don't have such authority to speak like that. You and I have not agreed, made a covenant, nor signed anything to say that you can have such authority like that over me. Your arrogance is exuberant. Sometimes, Earth needs to be tilled and broken up with gardening tools, such as forks. Your flowerbed seems rather barren at the moment. Have a good or have a shit day.

sunrise wrote:I don't need a second impression on yourself.
what you did with the 'biting thing' you mentioned is simply taking what I said, in another context, in another topic, where I said 'I bite my enemies faces' and extrapolated in this topic with no relevance what so ever but simply attacking. Why the hell are you attacking me so subtly? this is rhetorical.

I did not refer it to any other post you have made. If you see my posts, you'll see I mention sci fi quite a lot, in reference to things. I have also said why I do that - so I will let you see my posts to find out the reason why I do that, and I am not attacking you. I was being silly. Your interpretations need to be corrected. You say,

I am an open book, I don't like to hide whatever I think or feel or dissimulate.

yet you are a biased autobiography. When someone or some few try and be biographies about you, or just are being silly, then you take that personally and say it's an attack. Look at my replies to luis recently - I am joking to him about him being scared or frightened. It's humour. It's a joke. It's fun/funny. It's silliness. You need to till your Earth and dig out all of the shit in your flowerbed. - Call that an attack or call it advice; you decide.

You see fancy I don't need friendships around here as they are not entirely real but at the same time, I hope for a comfy staying without idiots jumping at my neck. I am extremely fair in my dealings and considerate.

Extremely fair and considering by calling me:

  1. boring
  2. uncharming
  3. unclassy
  4. rhetorical
  5. an idiot
  6. an attacker
  7. ...
while also laughing in my face, being sarcastic, closed-minded, lying saying you're an open-book... Do I need to go on? You're delusional. Again - feel attacked or feel observed; only you can decide that. Notice that I have not said these types of things until after you accused me of things first, so don't bother crying about nonsense accusations, etc.

What can I say, call this attitude of yours, smart? it's simply cheap so it's your character, and leads me to the conclusion that MORE of this sort can be expected from you, so I am better off. You are a kind of person which I, in normal life would not even meet, not to mention, speak with. hopefully, I am not hurting those emotions which you lack.

Again - your ignorance and closed-mindedness is unbounded. Perhaps you chose to not read, or you did read but then ignored, my Emotions thread which I have had in my siggie for the last 6 million years. Yes - that's hyperbole/rhetoric/exaggeration. If you have read my posts, you'd know these things about me, so please - I beg you - please continue to be closed-minded and delusional.

That's the misfortune, some people are dragging you to their level and beating you with experience. I don't mind going down to speak with you I just don't want this to be repeated in another fashion or continued. It is draining me as I don't earn anything out of it. Just a big waste of time and energy.

Indeed. Arrogance - or perhaps in your case, conceit - is very energy-consuming. If you don't want to expend any more, then you know where the door is. No-one is forcing you to be this trolly in your replies; you can simply not reply and save face, save yourself the upset.

hope for this place quality. I hope for this place new members to come in and feel comfortable. I hope for this place even when people disagree to do it PROPERLY AND ELEGANTLY.

How should I reply to this? "You should have Just Said No, kid"? "You are quite well-trained in your troll acting"? "You are so delusional that you actually believe you are all-wise"? Perhaps I should ask it in this way - "Did you actually believe, or were you truly naïve enough to think, that you know what the fuck you are blathering on about?!".

You in this regards are a little hypocrite, so stay away from me from now on. This is not an emotional response of mine, it is simply logical as I see people like you entire dangerous and sneaky.

How, exactly, am I "a little hypocrite"? What have I said and not done? If you want me to "stay away from you", then don't reply to me. You say it is logical and not emotional, but you seem to be very wrong in this thread - and not only with me replying to you, then you go on to attack me while being "open" and "considerate". Your mind is muddled and confused with what you think is right and what you project of yourself. Allow me to turn one of your questions back onto you - why are you attacking me? Why do you continue to call me things when I asked a question and referred to something humourously, and then gave an alternative view? If this is not an emotional reply by you, then your 3 replies to my one reply about why you are feeling victimised with what I said, in the same way I speak on here, must be killing you.

you are not an opponent for me mancy, you are a stupid undeveloped brother which is DRAINING people out since you profoundly lack water/emotion.

Is that so? You make me laugh. You think you are so clever. Do I have too much Fire and Air and Earth, instead? On the Internet, no-one knows you're a dog. Capiche? Not an opponent? Then why reply like this? Allow every other member and person who read this forum to come and reply, or make a thread, and tell me how draining I am to all of those people, instead of just you and only you. I'll be waiting.

You are becoming some sort of a vampire in this regard so be aware of whatever advice I gave you as it's pertinent and will help you in the future.

What advice is that? To be charming and classy, despite me being as much as mere text, emoticons and some pictures/videos/memes will allow online? Being stupid, rhetorical, boring, vampirish, attacking, idiotic, unclassy, uncharming, shit-talking...? That's not advice.

In the end, do me the favour of not addressing me at all since I will simply not read or reply. Go to school, read a book, do something constructive with your life.

Nope. Not emotional at all. Do yourself a favour and leave and don't bother coming back.

This thread and my replies are about Love Spell/sex/relationships, and you took it to be an attack against you, saying you are an open book and you are considerate, which is irrelevant. No. Not an emotional response from you at all. I would say you should be a comedian, but instead I'll say - don't quit your day job.

Again,

sunrise wrote:I don't need a second impression on yourself.
what you did with the 'biting thing' you mentioned is simply taking what I said, in another context, in another topic, where I said 'I bite my enemies faces' and extrapolated in this topic with no relevance what so ever but simply attacking. Why the hell are you attacking me so subtly? this is rhetorical.

I did not refer it to any other post you have made. Do you think I go around looking at everyone's posts and referring everything they say to every other thing they say? Oh, yeah, that's extremely logical. Your logic, V.I.K.I., is undeniable. Live long and prosper.

I will simply not read or reply.

Well, maybe I shouldn't give you the benefit of the doubt, then - fuck off and stay away.

In your first reply to this thread you said,

let me tell you my female perspective.

Saying that you need to fall for males. I replied to you later, asking if your wife is... Is that not silly, or are you just too sensitive? - That is a rhetorical question.

Men who were rejected were trying and keep trying due to their hunting nature

After all, you are 'hunters'.

No wonder you're a misandrist - but I invite you to get impregnated by another woman. Your opinion has been, either partly or entirely, fucked up by the types you've been hanging around. Obviously, you've not met other types of non-hunting-nature males. Yes - you are closed-minded. You think you're an open book and considerate. You have a lot to learn about objectivity. Do you also cry to HPHC, who said something like honest and direct, objective replies are often met with muh huwt feewings? Visit my Emotions thread and don't be ignorant nor a slave to subjectivity. Oops. Sorry. You said you're going to ignore me, so enjoy your wallowing in self-pity. As for you - I would not like to know where the sun doesn't shine.

First you replied "lol" to me - the very first (non)word you replied to me, then you changed and got so upset with things. That's not considerate, objective, nor logical. Chill out and go and have a walk in a park and meet some non-hunter-nature males to give you a proper perspective.
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Re: Love Spell

Postby FancyMancy » Mon May 13, 2019 11:22 pm

Aquarius wrote:This thread is becoming a “this is love-no this is love- you’re wrong this is love” guys love is interpreted in different ways by everybody, no reason to get heated over this.




HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:.........
Hp I believe people would really benefit to know if doing a love spell on somebody clueless is moral or not. I tried to come up with an answer but really can’t come up with one. Could you enlighten us since no Hp ever spoke about it?

Unless I have missed it or them, then there should be a sermon regarding morals and ethics and how far "freedom of will" can go and in what contexts. To me, using Magick to have someone be your love or lust partner is rather the same as flirting with them and trying to woo them, to convince and persuade them to be with you, but is just an extra tool or thing to use. It's rather dangerous to have leaders tell everyone what to do and how to do it, but of course they have said "if you consent, then go for it" numerous times. Hard Physical work to try and win someone over is acceptable, so why is hard Spiritual work not?
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Re: Love Spell

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Tue May 14, 2019 12:58 am

sunrise wrote:
Aquarius wrote:This thread is becoming a “this is love-no this is love- you’re wrong this is love” guys love is interpreted in different ways by everybody, no reason to get heated over this.




HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:.........
Hp I believe people would really benefit to know if doing a love spell on somebody clueless is moral or not. I tried to come up with an answer but really can’t come up with one. Could you enlighten us since no Hp ever spoke about it?



Aquarius, don't try stupid tricks and tactics with me. leave the HPs alone. Formulate your own opinions and preferences. this is not kindergarten. you have a mind of your own; we are individuals.

Now I won't debate more on the topic as I said everything I had to say. and even 1000000 more words on it.


He asks if this is a question of morality, this is a valid question. He is not exactly acting for a valuation of what you said.
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Re: Love Spell

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Tue May 14, 2019 1:02 am

What Sunrise said about men being hunters and so forth is correct. Despite of some men who are overtly feminized and/or gay, for the rest, while not in the traditional Ooga Booga hunterism, this is truly the case.

Also, this is natural thing, and if one does not do it, their chances of ever getting a mate just plummet to zero.

What also was said about men hanging in the friendzone is also very true. Instead of bashing, one could take these things and understand them as it's rare that women in that context admit or say these things, and these are to help you out.

I didn't read every single reply to this thread just a couple ones, just to be sure.
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Re: Love Spell

Postby Jack » Tue May 14, 2019 2:57 am

sunrise wrote:
Aquarius wrote:This thread is becoming a “this is love-no this is love- you’re wrong this is love” guys love is interpreted in different ways by everybody, no reason to get heated over this.




HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:.........
Hp I believe people would really benefit to know if doing a love spell on somebody clueless is moral or not. I tried to come up with an answer but really can’t come up with one. Could you enlighten us since no Hp ever spoke about it?



Aquarius, don't try stupid tricks and tactics with me. leave the HPs alone. Formulate your own opinions and preferences. this is not kindergarten. you have a mind of your own; we are individuals.

Now I won't debate more on the topic as I said everything I had to say. and even 1000000 more words on it.

Your always back peddaling after writing a bunch of incomprehensible gibberish which makes no sense and is self contradictory. People have been peddling this sort of pseudo moralistic viruses within our community since long trying to intentionally or unintentionally lead people astray. Yes doing a love spell is completely moral,doing a revenge spell or a destruction working when one has wronged you is completely moral. Do not spread this kind of anti satanic shit here. We are going to keep doing this even if your past 'moral' virtues or whatever say so.
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Re: Love Spell

Postby Braun666 » Tue May 14, 2019 3:24 am

FancyMancy wrote:
Aquarius wrote:This thread is becoming a “this is love-no this is love- you’re wrong this is love” guys love is interpreted in different ways by everybody, no reason to get heated over this.




HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:.........
Hp I believe people would really benefit to know if doing a love spell on somebody clueless is moral or not. I tried to come up with an answer but really can’t come up with one. Could you enlighten us since no Hp ever spoke about it?

Unless I have missed it or them, then there should be a sermon regarding morals and ethics and how far "freedom of will" can go and in what contexts. To me, using Magick to have someone be your love or lust partner is rather the same as flirting with them and trying to woo them, to convince and persuade them to be with you, but is just an extra tool or thing to use. It's rather dangerous to have leaders tell everyone what to do and how to do it, but of course they have said "if you consent, then go for it" numerous times. Hard Physical work to try and win someone over is acceptable, so why is hard Spiritual work not?


I agree. Even the act of flirting is applying "mental" energy to a specific intended objective(potentially sex or love). It manifests in verbal words, and vibrations(being sent out) whether consciously or unconsiously that causes a reaction(which can be either good or bad). Like going for a job interview(you make an impression or not) or talking to friends about topics(you guys are on the same frequency and vibration) etc. Broken down this comes with a set frequency and a vibrational match is needed with the response.

Now whether this "mental" energy and focus of thought, words and actions is strong enough to cause the response desired in the other person depends on many things. Such as vibrations, frequency, thought(power) and of course energy levels(aura, energy field, soul power etc.). Thus, the more someone is in tune, empowered and matching in even one OR all these aspects to someone else causes the effects to be instantaneous(love at first sight).

Magick is simply an extension of the above. It differs only with someone applying this with much more power and focus in a ritual and spell, in the comforts of their chamber, thus producing a POSITIVE outcome. Those with a naturally more powerful aura and soul(very rare), at the gifted level, can do this with greater ease, not requiring a chamber to cause the effects as their power allows for more immediate results and success.

Sadly as we know humanity has degenerated greatly, so this understanding is not common and occurring very unconsciously in most people. I can even see it myself with situations I've attracted, so I speak from my own observations and experiences. Naturally someone with higher vibrations, soul and aura, by natural law WILL have associating with npc's and the like. Because there's no match. I'm sure many Satanists can attest to this statement, especially those who are REALLY 100% about Satan's agenda.

I believe the argument could have been ended with simple understanding of the above and how Magick or "Witchcraft" is the act of taking directing and controlling of what occurs on the unconscious. Controlling your destiny. On the JoS there's even spells to break up lovers and kill an enemy. If one is saturated with muh feels, a step to this can be near impossible. I've read some of the replies on this thread and they are really bordering, xtian and new age muh feels type of teachings. This has to stop.
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Re: Love Spell

Postby Aquarius » Tue May 14, 2019 4:34 am

sunrise wrote:
Aquarius wrote:This thread is becoming a “this is love-no this is love- you’re wrong this is love” guys love is interpreted in different ways by everybody, no reason to get heated over this.




HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:.........
Hp I believe people would really benefit to know if doing a love spell on somebody clueless is moral or not. I tried to come up with an answer but really can’t come up with one. Could you enlighten us since no Hp ever spoke about it?



Aquarius, don't try stupid tricks and tactics with me. leave the HPs alone. Formulate your own opinions and preferences. this is not kindergarten. you have a mind of your own; we are individuals.

Now I won't debate more on the topic as I said everything I had to say. and even 1000000 more words on it.
I’m not sure how I’m playing stupid tactics and tricks with you, tbh, yes we are individuals and can come up with answers of our own, but I acknowledge the Hp’s superiority in knowledge and in life and that’s why I am more than happy to make questions to them when I’m not sure about something. I myself wasnt the kind of guy to do sex magick on people, and I still don’t, but I’d like to know the Hp’s point of view.
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Re: Love Spell

Postby Rook » Tue May 14, 2019 1:26 pm

NinRick wrote:I pull her light body out of her body when she sleeps and I „have sex“ with her. And obviously on climax I do the normal stuff I shoot Bright Energy inside her lightbody and physical body an aura and program it.

What you're doing is just making her lustful, I assume in your affirmation you affirm that she is to dwell exclusively on you and want to be with you and only you?
If not then you’re just making her horny.

I’d actually recommend a regular working with ISA, if you're using organismic energy I’d also add the KENAZ rune to make it more potent.


This entire conversation on the morality of using magic is superfluous.
People have been doing a lot of things to attract others like wearing expensive and elegant clothing or even removing clothing, buying expensive stuff, working out their bodies, and just plain showing off.
Even animals are known to display fancy colors like the peacock to attract mates, other animals have fancy mating calls some even do mating rituals.

The point is people DO things to attract others, saying that using your spiritual force is somehow immoral or bad is just retarded AF.

Using spiritual means gives you the edge in things, choosing not to use it, is just making things less efficient.
saying just letting things go with the flow as it was fated really makes no sense when you're SS.

If someone is having a bad Saturn transit this would bring someone hardship and other BS, but thanks to the spiritual(magical) knowledge Satan has given us, we can avert this, we don’t just take fate's BS like that, we’re maters of our own fate.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Tue May 14, 2019 4:40 pm

Braun666 wrote:
FancyMancy wrote:
Aquarius wrote:This thread is becoming a “this is love-no this is love- you’re wrong this is love” guys love is interpreted in different ways by everybody, no reason to get heated over this.




Hp I believe people would really benefit to know if doing a love spell on somebody clueless is moral or not. I tried to come up with an answer but really can’t come up with one. Could you enlighten us since no Hp ever spoke about it?

Unless I have missed it or them, then there should be a sermon regarding morals and ethics and how far "freedom of will" can go and in what contexts. To me, using Magick to have someone be your love or lust partner is rather the same as flirting with them and trying to woo them, to convince and persuade them to be with you, but is just an extra tool or thing to use. It's rather dangerous to have leaders tell everyone what to do and how to do it, but of course they have said "if you consent, then go for it" numerous times. Hard Physical work to try and win someone over is acceptable, so why is hard Spiritual work not?


I agree. Even the act of flirting is applying "mental" energy to a specific intended objective(potentially sex or love). It manifests in verbal words, and vibrations(being sent out) whether consciously or unconsiously that causes a reaction(which can be either good or bad). Like going for a job interview(you make an impression or not) or talking to friends about topics(you guys are on the same frequency and vibration) etc. Broken down this comes with a set frequency and a vibrational match is needed with the response.

Now whether this "mental" energy and focus of thought, words and actions is strong enough to cause the response desired in the other person depends on many things. Such as vibrations, frequency, thought(power) and of course energy levels(aura, energy field, soul power etc.). Thus, the more someone is in tune, empowered and matching in even one OR all these aspects to someone else causes the effects to be instantaneous(love at first sight).

Magick is simply an extension of the above. It differs only with someone applying this with much more power and focus in a ritual and spell, in the comforts of their chamber, thus producing a POSITIVE outcome. Those with a naturally more powerful aura and soul(very rare), at the gifted level, can do this with greater ease, not requiring a chamber to cause the effects as their power allows for more immediate results and success.

Sadly as we know humanity has degenerated greatly, so this understanding is not common and occurring very unconsciously in most people. I can even see it myself with situations I've attracted, so I speak from my own observations and experiences. Naturally someone with higher vibrations, soul and aura, by natural law WILL have associating with npc's and the like. Because there's no match. I'm sure many Satanists can attest to this statement, especially those who are REALLY 100% about Satan's agenda.

I believe the argument could have been ended with simple understanding of the above and how Magick or "Witchcraft" is the act of taking directing and controlling of what occurs on the unconscious. Controlling your destiny. On the JoS there's even spells to break up lovers and kill an enemy. If one is saturated with muh feels, a step to this can be near impossible. I've read some of the replies on this thread and they are really bordering, xtian and new age muh feels type of teachings. This has to stop.


of course, flirting by itself is a sort of magic, but your presence is magic, as you said, words are magic as they carry a vibration, YOU KNOW WHAT, IF WE GO DOWN TO THIS WE CONCLUDE THAT EVERYTHING IS MAGIC AFTER ALL. EVERYTHING.

My claim was simple, you interact with a being who doesn't respond to you as you wish. move on. that's it. don't go home to do a complex working to change his/her mind. there are plenty of people who can and should love you FOR WHAT YOU ARE without going to that so-called 'extension' you mentioned.

Your presence should be enough kind of magic to decide if somebody likes you or not without performing magic on the person to make this happen.

ethics are not new age, is what we need for this chaotic planet RULES. RESPECT. AUTHENTICITY. BEING TRUE TO YOURSELF. BEING NOBLE. ETC

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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Tue May 14, 2019 4:43 pm

Jack wrote:
sunrise wrote:
Aquarius wrote:This thread is becoming a “this is love-no this is love- you’re wrong this is love” guys love is interpreted in different ways by everybody, no reason to get heated over this.




Hp I believe people would really benefit to know if doing a love spell on somebody clueless is moral or not. I tried to come up with an answer but really can’t come up with one. Could you enlighten us since no Hp ever spoke about it?



Aquarius, don't try stupid tricks and tactics with me. leave the HPs alone. Formulate your own opinions and preferences. this is not kindergarten. you have a mind of your own; we are individuals.

Now I won't debate more on the topic as I said everything I had to say. and even 1000000 more words on it.

Your always back peddaling after writing a bunch of incomprehensible gibberish which makes no sense and is self contradictory. People have been peddling this sort of pseudo moralistic viruses within our community since long trying to intentionally or unintentionally lead people astray. Yes doing a love spell is completely moral,doing a revenge spell or a destruction working when one has wronged you is completely moral. Do not spread this kind of anti satanic shit here. We are going to keep doing this even if your past 'moral' virtues or whatever say so.



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Re: Love Spell

Postby FancyMancy » Tue May 14, 2019 5:28 pm

Braun666 wrote:...

I actually considered jobs, as well - you have to try and win the boss over to choose you. It's OK to use a spell to manipulate (if anyone is not uncomfortable using that word) the boss into choosing you, or you can just use raw, non-Spiritual charisma and CV and skills/achievements to do it. Why one but not the other?

I believe the argument could have been ended with simple understanding of the above and how Magick or "Witchcraft" is the act of taking directing and controlling of what occurs on the unconscious. Controlling your destiny. On the JoS there's even spells to break up lovers and kill an enemy. If one is saturated with muh feels, a step to this can be near impossible. I've read some of the replies on this thread and they are really bordering, xtian and new age muh feels type of teachings. This has to stop.

Someone did say a bit ago (and my interpretation/memory of what they said was) that because we're not in an actual SS/NS reality at the moment, the rules are different; that we have a more free-reign, to a certain extent, on doing things. Regrettably, it is, very literally, us versus them; if they are not SSs, then they are closer to being the enemy (although I wouldn't say are the enemy exactly - there has to be a distinction between that). Once Satanic and National Socialist reality and Natural laws return, then I think a lot of the things that some SSs might be doing these days would not be permitted. In war, the rules are different - but yes, of course, even in war there are still rules (perhaps). Also I think this is relevant for the time being - "Delight in what you create; delight in what you destroy".

In the NS/SS future, all things, Nature, energies, etc., will all be more beneficial for us, so we wouldn't need to 'manipulate' an ignorant 'Without' person into accepting us (if necessary) as a lover/luster or friend or boss or whatever. Things would gel much better and easier naturally and Naturally - "naturally" meaning "of course", and "Naturally" meaning of Nature.

Then, in the NS/SS future, while rules and laws are not of wartime, then we can still dream lucidly, so in there we can do absolutely anything we want, bar none (whether they be "illegal", "immoral", "unethical", etc., or not) - and there are no "rules" or "laws" imposed upon that. To refer back to what I said earlier - define "wrong" (not you, necessarily, but to anyone).
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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Tue May 14, 2019 5:35 pm

A lot of you accuse me of a new age and furthermore treat me like an outsider aka 'we think this vs you'.

stop this disrespectful approach,

I am part of satanism. but I tend to think that some of you take the teachings mot-a-mot

satanism is about JUSTICE.

justice is about getting your revenge when people are stabbing you with no reason /as you did not deserve it
justice is treating something good with good and something bad with bad.

when we go into a topic like love, is about 2 people emerging together in a relationship aimed to last on a true, real foundation.

love is not 'OUR AMBITIOUS'. love is not a business, is coming together with a significant another into a symbiosis. is aiming to make the other happy and the other way around. is meeting their needs and ours. has to be mutual in one word.

a brother spoke about performing magic as the extension of words/flirt/etc FINE, GREAT, I AGREE. Add it on IF IS THE CASE. but, If you meet a woman who said NO TO YOU, as she is not drawn to you for VARIOUS REASONS, why insist using a proper working? IS THIS ETHICAL?

if the significant other is happy we will be happy. LOVE IS A TWO WAY STREET. Unhappy partners can bring a lot of misery. Should we keep them under a permanent spell when in fact there are plenty of other suitable people around? Why get so stuck on a person? Nobody is that special after all if you want to look at things from this perspective. No matter the perspective, as I wrote a lot about it, from my humble point of view, which is the only mine and I don't necessarily see it as supreme, is WRONG. I don't see why so much struggle for something which should actually FLOW naturally.

As I said if we go down to this that in flirt words who carry vibration is magic, this and/OR that is magic THUS we came to the conclusion that everything is MAGIC.
use your PRESENCE ITSELF to decide if the connection is there or not. Presence itself should be enough 'sort of magic' when it comes to love at the initiation stage.

Some of you came to satanism to show your true colours aka FORCE, POWER OVER THE OTHERS, WE DO WHAT WE WANT AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS, ETC - Is this satanism when it comes to love? NO, IT IS NOT.

Love is sacred guys, stop treating it like some sort of cheap undertaking.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Tue May 14, 2019 6:09 pm

now EGO perspective. Yeah, let's forget about 'the other', let's focus on us. What the HELL do we want out of love? TO BE LOVED FOR WHAT WE ARE, ISN'T IT?

what about being true to yourself?

Do you want to PLEASE so much a person who in fact doesn't want the same?

is this called respect for your own being?

are you that insignificant to GIVE UP ON YOURSELF to look in a certain way in their eyes?

Aren't you enough as you are in their eyes?

Think about this as well.

be true to yourself, you are important, check if THEY meet your needs, not the other way around.

If they reject you, they are not better than you, they are simply not for you. Why overcomplicate things, then?

When you insist upon a refusal is just a fact that proves that you see yourself LOWER than them. Or an arrogance from the category 'if you don't want me, I want you'. Or an overall bad impression over your own being and quality and lack of self-respect.
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Love yourself. Be proud of yourself and accept yourself ultimately. The sun doesn't rise from anyone ass. Nor them, or yours. Has to be mutual.

I am fed up to hear whenever somebody is considerate over the other is automatically a new age. We don't live on this planet by ourselves. We live with others. We need to love ourselves as proof that we love the others, and love the others as proof that we love ourselves. This is interchangeable.
I am not talking about jesus type of sick cheap and abusive love. Be careful as you tend to go into that sort of abusive sort of thing if not careful.

Even Father doesn't make us love HIM if is not coming from the bottom of our own being and will, He is that proud.

Be that proud as well.

We don't abuse ourselves and we don't abuse others undeserving.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Tue May 14, 2019 6:22 pm

If I continue with your rhetoric why not let's make people love Satan using magic?

Are we doing this? No, we don't. We are breaking the spell that humanity has on Him. We help humanity to see Him clearly for what he is in REALITY.
So they can come at their own free will and love Him for what He is.

If Father wanted to use magic to be loved I think this would have been entirely easy. But he is too proud for this.

Think about this as well, when it comes to the love topic.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Tue May 14, 2019 7:35 pm

Take another viewpoint.

The energy takes the shortest route to achieve whatever,
You want a person who said NO and you might end up being transformed by the programmed energy in order to fit.
OR WORSE, YOU TRANSFORM THE OTHER IN SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT. Different from what you actually liked at the beginning, even if it wasn't mutual.
You mention in a positive way, but you will get adjusted for that specific person and that person as well, This will alter a lot your personality, whatever.

My question is why this hassle? Make the 'compromises' that you explicitly want if we speak about some compromises which might be inevitable. Make it CONSCIOUSLY only if you want to. Playing with the energy which is still not fully understood is not a good idea, at least in the love area.

Energy will act too subtly in this manner to even observe it. Why end up something totally different or the other person as well?

I was speaking about couples who are in love but at the same time obsessed to CHANGE the other. THIS IS INSANE. Let's be genuine from the beginning and till the end. I won't repeat those things, anyhow.

My point is to take what is already there or not - as it is - . and the other way around.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Tue May 14, 2019 8:30 pm

Why this obsession for finding soul mates then?

If we have the magic to manipulate others, let's simply take our ex-partners and transform them like puppets and that's it. Simple. Problem solved.

I could go on and on WHY I PERSONALLY DISAGREE WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE OPPOSING MY VIEW.

I am sorry that I got really triggered by the subject, if it was up to me I would have made it extremely short as it is really simple if you look at it.

But the accusations of the NEW AGE crap are really disturbing FOR ME, when in fact I am a PRACTICAL PERSON, SIMPLE IN MY APPROACH, CONSIDERATE FOR THE PARTNER, MOSTLY CONSIDERATE FOR ME BUT NOT AT THE EXPENSE OF THE OTHER, SEEKING FOR BALANCE AND HARMONY IN LIFE; Just and correct, expecting in return exactly what I give; Totally in acceptance with myself, not willing to change for another and not trying to change. I FIND IT ENTIRELY HEALTHY, in fact, I SEE MYSELF A GREAT SATANIST.

Stop talking satanism mot-a mot. Try to go deeper into ideas and concepts. I don't talk gibberish, you just hate to think by yourself; if an authority doesn't come over to deliver everything on a plate, that's all. You don't even bother to filter the information. if you do this in life you will end up NOWHERE. Don't offend me for your inability. The fact, if you think in a certain way but expect an authority to change your view, (but at the same time not for his smart view, but simply because the person in question is an authority and just an authority) - is a big problem for you - think about this, especially you Aquarius. We are human beings and here to learn from each other not for the sake of so-called positions, but for the sake of the TRUTH.
At the same time Aquarius I don't want this to sound like I don't consider hps take on manners, I haven't found any gaps in their logic yet. Hopefully, you got the idea right plus, I was speaking about general authorities.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby Lanius » Tue May 14, 2019 9:07 pm

Just going to add my two cents here.

Doing a love spell on someone doesn’t make them be with you or stay with you if they are unhappy. Love spells work by increasing the love that person feels for you, or sparking an interest in you. It’s not a spell to make someone your slave that does your bidding. If done with an appropriate and positive affirmation, then there is nothing to fear here, and nothing disrespectful.

The whole point of doing one of these workings is to unite with someone that you care for. Just bear in mind that there might be someone better out there for you, so a general love working might be better suite me for some. Other people however might actually know who is best for them, and in that case that can use a working to bring that about.

Doing workings to bring about love, happiness, money, careers, or even sex is not evil. Especially since we are SS and any partner that we have will also enjoy the benefits of us being able to help protect them, further their goals and dreams, etc.

Trust your intuition in regards to whether or not you should do a love working on a specific person, or a general one. Remember, we are all different souls with different needs.

One final note, there are even Gods who specialize in uniting lovers, breaking up rivals, etc.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby FancyMancy » Tue May 14, 2019 11:23 pm

sunrise wrote:...

Aww, you replied to me (it had my quote within it!), so you do love me! All is forgiven. Mwah! :P

My claim was simple, you interact with a being who doesn't respond to you as you wish. move on. that's it. don't go home to do a complex working to change his/her mind. there are plenty of people who can and should love you FOR WHAT YOU ARE without going to that so-called 'extension' you mentioned.

The make-up (constitution) of everyone means that they have vary many different amounts of Elements and experiences, upbringing, opinions, etc. so with your advice here, as well-intentioned as it is, it simply wouldn't work for everyone.

Your presence should be enough kind of magic to decide if somebody likes you or not without performing magic on the person to make this happen.

Perhaps if you're very advanced, but if you're not...

Life is not about me me me me me me me and only me; life is about us us us us us

That is like the NS side of things, but the SS side of things is about the individual, self, one, me - and selfishness is not negative, bad, etc., in and of itself. Of course selfishness has negative connotations, but it, inherently, is not negative in every situation.

A lot of you accuse me of a new age and furthermore treat me like an outsider aka 'we think this vs you'.

stop this disrespectful approach,

I was only disrespectful to you as a retaliation. My original reply to you was not meant to be offensive at all. As for "us v you" - it is important to have different ideas and understandings brought 'to the table', and your doing that is helpful.

when we go into a topic like love, is about 2 people emerging together in a relationship aimed to last on a true, real foundation.

That's merely an opinion/preference. Polygamy/polyamoury is perfectly-fine and acceptable. For some, they just want or need lust/sex, without the love aspect, and this could, and also could not, be a relationship.

a brother spoke about performing magic as the extension of words/flirt/etc FINE, GREAT, I AGREE. Add it on IF IS THE CASE. but, If you meet a woman who said NO TO YOU, as she is not drawn to you for VARIOUS REASONS, why insist using a proper working? IS THIS ETHICAL?

"I am receiving all the love X has for me from X." For all you know, s/he could be playing hard-to-get and s/he might want someone who is determined and wouldn't give up simply after the first hurdle.

Should we keep them under a permanent spell when in fact there are plenty of other suitable people around?

I don't think anyone meant to keep them under a permanent spell. Taking the example of part of an affirmation I just said, it is to draw-out every possible bit of love that this person, in their Soul, might have for you compatibility-wise. You say there are plenty of fish in the sea, but you need to get to know them and see if they are good enough; using Magick can draw this out in a more efficient manner.

Why get so stuck on a person? Nobody is that special after all if you want to look at things from this perspective.

Perhaps either you haven't been in love or had super amounts of lust (infatuation) for someone, or you have and have decided to be hardened against it. Of course, one should tread carefully while in that. Why is no-one, and how do you know no-one is, that special? You are not everyone's Mind and perspective.

I don't see why so much struggle for something which should actually FLOW naturally.

If it was easy and it flowed naturally, then everyone would have their perfect partner/s already... We can use Magick as a way to hasten that process.

As I said if we go down to this that in flirt words who carry vibration is magic, this and/OR that is magic THUS we came to the conclusion that everything is MAGIC.

I would say that everything is energy, in one form or another, and it can be changed, moved, programmed, manipulated...

use your PRESENCE ITSELF to decide if the connection is there or not.

That sounds like it is based on looks and immediate Physical attraction solely. Where is the bit about getting to know the person? Then, with hanging out with any/many person/s, the mere presence of you itself might/should be enough for any number of those work colleagues or gym mates or pool party friends, etc.

Presence itself should be enough 'sort of magic' when it comes to love at the initiation stage.

Why should it? Some people have Mental/Intellectual relationships, others have Physical/Sexual relationships, others platonic in other ways... Why should it be only that one? If you don't know a person, say they're a very disreputable person, then just being there merely in their presence would not be very healthy/safe.

Some of you came to satanism to show your true colours aka FORCE, POWER OVER THE OTHERS, WE DO WHAT WE WANT AT THE EXPENSE OF OTHERS, ETC - Is this satanism when it comes to love? NO, IT IS NOT.

Can you please provide actual source references for this?

Love is sacred guys, stop treating it like some sort of cheap undertaking.

The fact that if one is willing to work hard at it, in whichever various ways, then that proves in and of itself that it is not a cheap undertaking; that energy (in multiple senses of the word) is expended and trying and effort is done to find and achieve one or more of the many types of love (and/or lust, of course, as well). Using Magick does not make it cheap, necessarily.

Aren't you enough as you are in their eyes?

One cannot know if you're enough in their eyes, if the "mere presence" is supposed to be enough; they must know them.

be true to yourself, you are important, check if THEY meet your needs, not the other way around.

...and by "receiving all the love X has for me, from X" this is one of the ways that can be done. If you use only one single tool, e.g. your eyes, to decide if someone is right for you, then you might not realise that they could stab you in the back; you have Magick as a tool to use, as well. I still haven't been told why Magick "cannot" or "should not" be used - and now another question; how is it related to "morals" and "ethics" to use or to not use Magick in this manner? Again - I don't think anyone meant to keep them under a spell; if any individual does that, then that is their own business and I'm sure they'd have their reasons.

When you insist upon a refusal is just a fact that proves that you see yourself LOWER than them.

I don't think so, necessarily. Probably in some ways, but not absolutely. A member said either on this forum or the other one that some people need to look after others, to be there for them, to care for someone else. That can be seen in a lot of areas. If you are drawn to someone but they reject you, that is not always meaning you are lower than they are if you persist. You must hear stories, "I pursued him/her for X time and s/he kept refusing, but then s/he relented...and the rest is history, and we couldn't be happier". You can deny that if you like. Do you see male pigeons anywhere cooing and trying to get the girl, not caring for anything else happening around them? They are relentless and must find a mate. That is just one example. See how other Animals show off their plumage and whatever, do mating dances, and persist to get the girl. Some could lol and say the girls are hard and rejecting bitches (said in a funny way), but the boy Animal persists.

We need to love ourselves as proof that we love the others, and love the others as proof that we love ourselves.

Not relenting shows willingness to persist and not quit after the first hurdle - some people like that and they play hard to get deliberately, because they don't want a weakling. We can show we love them, as you say, by persisting, showing that we are bothered to be there for them and with them, etc.

If I continue with your rhetoric why not let's make people love Satan using magic?

Are we doing this? No, we don't. We are breaking the spell that humanity has on Him. We help humanity to see Him clearly for what he is in REALITY.
So they can come at their own free will and love Him for what He is.

If Father wanted to use magic to be loved I think this would have been entirely easy. But he is too proud for this.

Think about this as well, when it comes to the love topic.

There are different forms of love. I thought we were talking in this thread about relationship/partnership love, not love/admiration/respect of/for a Leader/Saviour.

The energy takes the shortest route to achieve whatever,
You want a person who said NO and you might end up being transformed by the programmed energy in order to fit.
OR WORSE, YOU TRANSFORM THE OTHER IN SOMETHING TOTALLY DIFFERENT.

It is repeated endlessly "in a safe, positive, happy ... way" to be added to affirmations.

You mention in a positive way, but you will get adjusted for that specific person and that person as well, This will alter a lot your personality, whatever.

It wouldn't be positive to be altered to be able to fit. It's not just our words which we speak in the affirmations but also our intentions, emotions, visualisations... all behind it, as well. When the mage knows themself properly and realises their true Self properly, then they will know who they are, truly and actually, so then they would be able to detect if they are changing or about to change, into someone who is not their true self. At this point, as you say, they shouldn't continue pursuing because then they wouldn't be their true self, but possibly they might try continuing in a different way, with bringing out all of the love and compatibility, etc., of the other person.

Thinking about it, the mage could test it with a trial run with being with the person, or with a realisation/revelation Magick working so that the mage can see the other person/s truly without being with them, but by the time a mage should be proficient enough, then they should sense compatibility or lack thereof already, so then they wouldn't need to pursue the interest either by being connected with the person or from a distance. See - if you hadn't have replied, I wouldn't have thought this now. My original reply was not an attack against you; I was being silly, and then I only retaliated to you, but then now reading your reply and me thinking about it helped me realise some things which some others would surely have realised already, and hopefully my realisation can help others who didn't think about it yet.

My question is why this hassle? Make the 'compromises' that you explicitly want if we speak about some compromises which might be inevitable. Make it CONSCIOUSLY only if you want to. Playing with the energy which is still not fully understood is not a good idea, at least in the love area.

A better way, to maybe agree with you, than persisting with a love interest is instead to do a working to find/bring to you a compatible/the perfect love/lust mate or mates. People can become fixated on things, though, but then as said, if they know their true self, then they should be well further along and hopefully not fall into the trap of infatuation/fixation.

Although, seeing a person who you think is amazing - and even their little imperfections might be perfect - you might persist with them, getting them to be with you, etc., and later on you could be their love and joy, etc. Reading about the Thoughtforms coypastad by a member, by another member, that was amazing to read. If the Thoughtform evolved far enough, it (or he/she, as the member described them) could question, "Why did you create me this way?"; with alternative energies of the Planets and things, making the constitution of the Thoughtform very different, once hesheit advances far enough (if possible), then they might have desires of hisherits own, and perhaps wonder "Why did you not create me with X energy, instead?". The Thoughtform could be told that you decided to create himherit for reason X or reasons X, Y and Z, but then advancing them to have 'free will' and sentience (if possible), then can give himherit the ability to be himherits own self with different energies as hesheit wants. Similarly, pursuing a particular person for a love (and possibly lust) interest and winning them over, they might question you privately, "Why did you persist with me after I kept on rejecting you?" You might say that you were so drawn to them that you wanted to nurture them, etc., so very much, which they would appreciate.

Energy will act too subtly in this manner to even observe it. Why end up something totally different or the other person as well?

I was speaking about couples who are in love but at the same time obsessed to CHANGE the other. THIS IS INSANE. Let's be genuine from the beginning and till the end.

One should be more advanced to be able to sense it and use it correctly. I just remembered something a HP said, which I might not be repeating 100% correctly, but from memory it appeared as if they said that...and I hesitate to say this, but love has to be earned. If you're a dick, then you shouldn't be with someone, for example. Love is a serious and important thing - sacred, indeed. If you're not ready for it, then you can do it stupidly, causing more problems. I have seen it before, "I can change!" - why? You're the same person you were when you got together with your partner... People are quite false and you said that - I agree. Most people don't know their true selves - that's why "I can change!" after you've been together for however long.

My point is to take what is already there or not - as it is - . and the other way around.

I do maintain, though, to draw-out the love/things of the other person/s - not to change them, nor yourself (because then it would be false and not real), but to discover about compatibility and being able to be together properly. Magick can help expedite that.
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Re: Love Spell

Postby sunrise » Wed May 15, 2019 1:41 am

Lanius wrote:Just going to add my two cents here.

Doing a love spell on someone doesn’t make them be with you or stay with you if they are unhappy. Love spells work by increasing the love that person feels for you, or sparking an interest in you. It’s not a spell to make someone your slave that does your bidding. If done with an appropriate and positive affirmation, then there is nothing to fear here, and nothing disrespectful.

The whole point of doing one of these workings is to unite with someone that you care for. Just bear in mind that there might be someone better out there for you, so a general love working might be better suite me for some. Other people however might actually know who is best for them, and in that case that can use a working to bring that about.

Doing workings to bring about love, happiness, money, careers, or even sex is not evil. Especially since we are SS and any partner that we have will also enjoy the benefits of us being able to help protect them, further their goals and dreams, etc.

Trust your intuition in regards to whether or not you should do a love working on a specific person, or a general one. Remember, we are all different souls with different needs.

One final note, there are even Gods who specialize in uniting lovers, breaking up rivals, etc.



Absolutely brilliant answer. I want to add on your final note the following regarding Gods who are breaking relationships, etc. There are also Gods who are teaching you how to steal. Does this make stealing ok? NO. there are special conditions and special circumstances that the Gods Might consider.
Still, exceptions confirm the rule.

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Re: Love Spell

Postby Jack » Wed May 15, 2019 3:00 am

sunrise wrote:
Jack wrote:
sunrise wrote:

Aquarius, don't try stupid tricks and tactics with me. leave the HPs alone. Formulate your own opinions and preferences. this is not kindergarten. you have a mind of your own; we are individuals.

Now I won't debate more on the topic as I said everything I had to say. and even 1000000 more words on it.

Your always back peddaling after writing a bunch of incomprehensible gibberish which makes no sense and is self contradictory. People have been peddling this sort of pseudo moralistic viruses within our community since long trying to intentionally or unintentionally lead people astray. Yes doing a love spell is completely moral,doing a revenge spell or a destruction working when one has wronged you is completely moral. Do not spread this kind of anti satanic shit here. We are going to keep doing this even if your past 'moral' virtues or whatever say so.



ETHICS ARE NOT NEW AGE. LOVE IS IN 2 SHOULD BE MUTUAL.

IF AN ENEMY CROSS YOU, YES, SHOULD BE DESTROYED AS IT IS ONLY FAIR TO DO SO

I think you take satanism as some sort of I DO WHAT I WANT WITHOUT ANY RULES. THIS IS NOT SATANISM - THIS IS ANARCHY.

I'm not sure why you keep repeating this ,have you even read what I said ? Yes, this is ethical and yes this is mutual. And yes, doing a love spell to attract someone who is not attracted to you is ethical. Why ? Simply because that is within our power and personal responsibility. Satanism is about individualism as well as collective responsibility. As I said a woman may develop feelings suddenly for someone and yes inducing that effect at will is ethical. There is mutual love because you induced it yourself. Your morals are derived from a common anathema against anything really Satanic. Love spells, sex spells, evil eyes, controlling others, influencing others, projecting your will over others is an integral part of magickal practice. That's why life becomes so much better after you practice satanism because you have personal power and responsibility. The cap to this is the Gods. The Gods give signs and tell us if we're going down the wrong road. The Gods warn us if we're doing something really immoral in an actual sense. Yes, breaking up couples is perfectly moral. There's no God who specializes in stealing. This morality is derived from Nietzschean individualism combined with National, cultural and societal collective responsibility. And we're fulfilling both of them. A girl can fall in love with two persons at the same time. Yes, a girl can fall out of love with her bf if you make them fight by inducing such programmed energy in their Aura. Yes, this is perfectly moral and could be done if you take responsibility for it. Power to the responsible is the motto of working magick. Yes ,this pseudo moralistic viewpoint you espouse is still antithetical to our morals. Because our morality is different from yours. This lingering feelings of guilt, unable to control your life and enact your will in the world is because of psychological roadblocks inside your mind either from Christianity or from childhood brainwashing. I suggest you do a munkayah working to rid yourself of this psychological roadblock.
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And yes, we're going to continue doing magick on girls who do not love us to make them love us, which is perfectly moral for us. And yes those who are looking for soulmates will continue to search for them using magick or physical means.

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