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Coraxo wrote:......

I just read all your comments on this page, so now I understand what your point is, and I will talk about your point in a reasonable and respectful way, with no jokes and no exaggerations. There is a difference between sex and abuse. I agree with consensual sex, but I do not agree with abuse. Even if the victim of that abuse has been mentally conditioned into thinking that it's okay. And sometimes this abuse happens at the same time as sex, but that does not turn the two actions into one. You seem to just be lumping all these abusive actions into the vague category of "sex," then saying "Well all consensual sex is good, so it must be a good thing." I don't see it like that. I see sex and the abusive actions as being 2 seperate things, and I do not agree with the idea that abuse like that is okay. I'll put a quote from Stormblood that lists some of these abusive actions, (all of these that Stormblood listed, you have said that you think they are all perfectly acceptable and healthy), and then after that I'll add some more things to that list to make the point more clear. Things which some people try to promote as fetishes, but I consider as the most horrible abuse.

Stormblood wrote: So according to you these are all healthy sexual expressions if they are consensual:

[GRAPHIC LANGUAGE ALERT IF THERE ARE MINORS READING]

- beating your sexual partner, making them bleed and giving them bruises.
- cutting them and making them bleed
- peeing on your sexual partner or allowing them to pee on you
- licking dirty boots with dry mud on them etc.
- use your partner as a footstool
- putting your partner on a leash and walking them around
- choking your partner
- putting your partner into a cage
- whipping them for not doing as you say
- having someone dress in priest robes and force crosses up your ass (this is the weirdest I've ever read)
- [insert any other violent or degrading behaviour]

Very interesting. I've seen that and much more advertised in fetish communities and treated as normal. If that's the case, I've nothing more to tell you. Especially as you're so much on the defensive.

-giving your partner injuries like cuts, scars, black eyes, pulling their hair, draining or drinking their blood, breaking bones, pouring boiling water on them, purposefully causing pain or injury in any way physically, mentally, or spiritually

-choking them until they are unconscious

-using them as a toilet, peeing on them or into them, shitting on them or having them eat pieces of shit

-being emotionally/spiritually damaging to them. Treating them like garbage, lowering their sense of self worth and power, conditioning them into the mentality of a worthless slave, taking away their power, financially trapping and isolating them, blocking them from contact with friends and family, turning people against them, getting them to have a negative view of themself, getting them to give up on life and be accepting of abuse, breaking down their lifeforce and turning them into a defenceless slave with no more will for it to stop, or anything else like these.



Coraxo, it seems like you accept all these things. It seems like you just consider all these things to be just innocent sexual fetishes, and you just think "ALL sexual fetishes are acceptable and good, so you have to accept everything on this list, even if you don't personally agree with it."

I have an absolutely opposite opinion of all this than you have. I consider the things on this list to be absolute pure psychopathic evil. And just because these evil things happen to be done at the same time as sex, and within the context of sexual activity, does not mean that these pure evil psychopathic actions are acceptable or healthy. These abusive actions are not a sexual fetish, but some degenerates think that they are. They are evil and abusive actions, which sometimes happen along with sex. But these things on this list are not healthy, consensual, acceptable sex!

I disagree with abuse, I disagree with evil, I disagree with cruelty, and I think it is absolutely discusting and sickening for anyone to be trying to use Social-judeo/Marxist type psychological reasoning to try to convice anyone that these evil actions are to be accepted!

In the same way that a drunk person can not consent to sex even if they feel like they want it, nobody can consent to being abused. Because if they were to consent to abuse, that only means that they have already been abused for long enough time that they have given up all will to fight back. They have given up their self worth, and they do not have anymore lifeforce left to make them stand up against it. Or, even if they want the abuse to stop, they feel like they are trapped and there is no way out of it, so best to just go along with it. Because fighting against the abuse would just make the abuser mad and they would hurt them even worse. In some cases, someone has been abused for such a long time that they have convinced their mind to enjoy it. As a coping mechanism to deal with it, the pain is never going to end so make yourself enjoy it and it won't seem as bad. Some of this is from past life karma, and some of this is still developing.

These people need help! They should not be in these abusive situations! This abuse can not be thought of as acceptable or healthy, it must be hated as the absolute evil that it is! And the last thing these victims need is for some jackass like you to think that they deserve to be in their situation, or that it is okay in any form. That type of attitude is one of main the forces which has gotten them to accept all the abuse and not try to fight against it anymore. Because who could you tell? Who could you ask for help from? If they would only tell the victim "It's fine! It's not the ideal, but it is an acceptable form of relationship that happens sometimes. Besides, looks like you consent to it! It's happening, you have not stopped it, so obviously this is what you wanted anyway." This is the fear of being rejected that traps many of these people and causes them not to ask for help.



I'm not talking about innocent quirks, like if your partner wants you to slap their ass hard, or gently harmlessly bite part of them, or gently but firmly hold their hair, or to tie them up. If they want things like this to be done and they enjoy it, there is nothing wrong with that. But it seems like you have gone so far extreme with your acceptance, that you have lumped actual psychopathic evil abuse, and disgusting harmful degenrate behaviors, in with the same categorisation as healthy and harmless fetishes. But that connection you made in your mind, the idea that all actions that occur during sex are automatically an innocent sexual fetish and all have to be accepted, no matter how abusive and cruel they are. This connection is imaginary and only exists in your mind, as an untrue idea. Harmless consensual fun is one thing, and actual abuse is an absolutely different and seperate thing. The people who have been arguing against you can see this. They do not accept abuse or evil or cruelty. And no matter how much social-judeo/marxist type psychology you try to apply to this topic, you will never convince anybody here that abuse is a good thing, or it is acceptable.


And I don't have any minions, and I'm not a minion to anyone else. Nobody is under my authority, and I am under nobody's authority. All I do is share my own opinion, and if some other people agree with me which many usually do, that is their own business. I'm not looking for minions, anybody who would want to be a minion under me has too little self-importance of themself for me to want them anyway.

Ol argedco luciftias wrote:,..

If they're still too brainwashed to understand, let's help with HPS Maxine's wisdom from 2010 from a sermon on sexual freedom that people conveniently neglect in order to justify their deviancies (stool, golden showers, caging, extreme violence, and so on...)

Push what most regard as 'free sexuality' too far, as what the Jews are doing today [this is not TRUE sexual freedom, it is only dirtying and defiling sex] and with natural law, there will be a backlash, which is their ultimate goal. They control BOTH sides

She also explains why they are pushing this too far:

They are hoping for a backlash of their programs of Christianity and its stepping off point of communism. They make a relentless effort to push pornography and all sorts of other adult entertainment on underage children, using the media, and even in some cases in the schools, doing this all insidiously [little by little- two steps forward and one step back]. This is in an attempt to provoke a strong reaction against adult entertainment and sexual freedoms- sending everyone back to square one with Christian 'morals' and a backlash of Christian control. The same is being done with homosexuality, where it should be left alone. One's sex life is one's own personal, private business. The Jews keep pushing this to provoke a violent reaction.

The effect of sexual imbalance applies both to suppression and excessive disinhibition.

The sexual suppression creates an imbalance in the base and second chakras which bleeds over into the emotional level (chakra) this extends to the next chakra and from here, we have a further imbalance, creating fear and guilt, and other emotional and psychological disorders

All quotes are from:
page 69, sermon "Sexual Freedom", Joy of Satan 2010 Sermons, taken from Satan's Library website: https://www.dropbox.com/s/fd7ztfiqyrfp4 ... s.pdf?dl=0

magus.immortalis wrote:

Spiritseekr wrote:To answer your question as to what kind of coven did the casting I don't really know but will research. I spoke to my wife today at lunch and she mentioned she went back to bed after I left this morning and felt like she was being touched on her breasts and genitals.She just figured she was imagining things. She went back to sleep and she said a more sinister entity came to her in her dreams and was very dark and slim and she said his penis was long and moved inside her like a snake.She said she felt his ejaculate fill her and she asked him if she could get pregnant from that and he laughed. This totally freaked her out and she told him to leave. She said she woke up and went to the bathroom to see if any semen was coming out but there was'nt any sign of that. The entitys that came to her before were kind and gentle for the most part. They were reassuring to her and told her to just relax despite my wife being a little worried about them being large down there my wife had no discomfort. But the latest visitor didn't cause pain but freaked my wife out with the squirming inside her and his crass attitude about her concern of being impregnated. Is the later entity an imposter or evil entity. We really dont like her getting that type of visit.What could this be? Were thinking about banishing all of them if the evil ones can come to her too.

These things happened to me before I dedicated my soul to Satan and did the Aura of Protection every night, along with aura and chakra cleaning.

These things I am about to write about can get graphic and maybe a bit fantastical sounding, but I want to write about it, get it off my chest and maybe it will help someone out there.

I used to live with an ex boyfriend at age 21-23 and I had sex with human spirits. I wasn't aware of it at the time, only that someone penetrated me on the astral (I was physically laying in bed on my side) and there was thrusting. It was very pleasurable and I was aware it was a human spirit. This happened here and there and my boyfriend at the time even commented that I "smelled as if someone ejaculated in me" before having sex.

These astral sexual interactions visits continued when I broke up with him and moved back home. I would wake up, paralyzed and unable to move but I could make noises but couldn't really speak. There was a man on the astral, performing oral sex on me and I felt it clearly. I was a bit frightened because I was "stuck" and couldn't do anything. I eventually fell back asleep.

When I dabbled with angels (I was a new ager before a Satanist) there would be entities that would arouse me, wearing the astral form they wanted to show me.

These stopped when I dedicated, unless I didn't do the Aura of Protection and chakra and aura cleaning before bed. I would still get erotic dreams that were very lucid, especially with non-human entities that had genitalia like human men.

There was once a dream (I probably didn't do the Aura of Protection enough one night) where I fell asleep and I awoke with my legs spread (I am a female) and a male entity had ejaculated onto my stomach. He was obviously male and certainly not human. His ejaculate was ice cold. Then the dream changed, and I was fine. It could have been worse: I could have been raped or mauled in my dream by a non-human entity that was most definitely not of Satan. It was extremely lucid and I wasn't aware I was dreaming until I woke up.

There was a point in my life, within the past 1.5 months, I had sex with enemy spirits. They deluded me and I went along with the delusion because, well, insecurities and low-self esteem issues. There was actual penetration and it was very pleasurable, like being with a human man. Even I smelled "different" down there because they ejaculated in me.

I eventually snapped out of it (it took about 2-2.5 weeks), did my meditations, did my Aura of Protection and got back on track. My Guardians let me know they let it happen because it was a lesson I had to learn. No harm came to me, just wasted time and fake reality.

So the point of me quoting the above post, is that astral entities CAN and WILL come to you on the astral, or in dreams, and have sex with you.

My guess is that SpiritSeekr is not dedicated, nor his wife, to Satan via the Dedication Ritual on Joy of Satan. And even if they were, they really need to clean their auras and chakras and up their Aura of Protection.
Satan and our Guardians protect us from the worst of attacks on the astral and physical if we don't do dumb things that put us at risk or being lazy about our own protection.
They do let these things happen so one learns, advances and has experience and knowledge about how entities and the enemy operate.

I think the spirits go for those who have more spiritual power, like Spiritual Satanists. They will not bother with normies.

Gear88 wrote:

TopoftheAbyss wrote:I don't know why but I asked this in an unrelated topic but should I ask for a succubus even if I don't like to have a relationship with someone I don't know?
I don't know if I will feel her because my senses aren't developed.
Can it be that the fact that I mistook the topic be a sign to not do it?

It's been stated that the Gods do help out once in a while or drop like someone in the previous ProPHP forum stated thought implants or thought packages. Perhaps dealing with such a personal Demoness in this case could help, you never know. Some have stated their guardian demon have helped them out while they were ignorant starting off. So you never know if it's good or bad.

Frankly I'm more concerned with people asking for one. I remember a number of threads on yahoo forums asking for a incubus or succubus. And they state a specific thing like height or eye color or size and whatnot. At the end of the day the best thing you can do if your willing to go through the ritual to ask for one. Is simply ask for the perfect succubus for you but leave it up to Satan to find the perfect one. And of course deciding between monogamous or poly-amorous/open relationship. Again be specific in what you want out of the relationship like a love or sexual or both love/sexual relationship but not specific to whom you want.

Again who knows what you want in appearance and whatnot. So be specific but when it comes the specific person let Satan deal with that and yes put that down let him do it cause he knows you better than you know yourself.

Though caution it might be possible an incubus pops in. There was at least one case where someone asked and a male popped in rather than a female and he had to be told he prefers that over woman. So don't be surprised if such can happen it's rare but you never know.

I asked for incubi before.I said it is a love relationship because my understanding was love relationship contains sex.Does it?

homeraee wrote: I asked for incubi before.I said it is a love relationship because my understanding was love relationship contains sex.Does it?

Demons aren't stupid. They know what you meant by a "love relationship."


If you can't see energy or hear astral entities then that is going to make it extremely difficult to have any sort of relationship with an incubus, let alone a loving one. You need to open and empower your 6th chakra and its extensions (3rd eye, temple chakras).

6th Chakra Meditation
https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfir ... ation.html

Be EXTREMELY careful of any astral entity that approaches you. 99% of the time it is NOT a Demon. They will pretend to be your Demon lover so they can give you bad information, get you to do something stupid, steal your energy, and in general try their hardest to screw you over.

Yes, Satan wouldn't bind you into a sexless relationship.

homeraee wrote:I asked for incubi before.I said it is a love relationship because my understanding was love relationship contains sex.Does it?

Sometimes enemy entities will also play the long game, trying to gain your trust and faking good will toward you too, so it's important to be careful (not paranoid), unlike some people in the past months advised.