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Satanic perspective on asceticism, monasticism, and hermits?

Postby HailVictory88 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:13 am

As the title says, I am interested in the proper Satanic perspective on these. Lately I have been feeling drawn to retreating from modern life as best as I am able to focus completely on my advancement. Is there any value towards feeling drawn towards a simple life which focuses on gaining spiritual power, or is this a Xian hangup I need to overcome? I am not sure if being drawn to this sort of thing is an organic part of my personality, or due to Xian programming. Are some people meant to completely focus on spirituality, or is my lack of interest in a career, mate, etc. due to problems?

Also, I thought we could turn this into a general thread for this sort of thing if that's ok, so if people who are interested have other points of view that my questions don't cover, feel free to post them if the mods are okay with it.

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Re: Satanic perspective on asceticism, monasticism, and hermits?

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:55 pm

This is all essentially bullshit.

These people are always finding excuses to be away from life, and dead, as they were meant to be in the first place, as such abomination births who live 'for the next world' were only kept around due to incessant and misplaced mercy.

Asceticism leads nowhere in an increase of power. These frail individuals who cannot do anything should give testament to this.

I have had enough 'socialism', 'veganism', 'asceticism', 'celibacy', and people claiming they are not essentially CHRISTIANS all over again.

The frailty of present day humanity leaves me in awe.

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Re: Satanic perspective on asceticism, monasticism, and hermits?

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:15 pm

I wonder why some people have sinked in all the dross of the enemy, simply because it was paraded around with some sort of "Satan" name, and "Demons" here and there.

"Live your life and you will never die" -Thoth.

Does that remind any of anything?

The situation with people being no lifers has created tremendous mental illnesses to people.

To not want to live, is mental illness.

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Re: Satanic perspective on asceticism, monasticism, and hermits?

Postby HP Mageson666 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:51 pm

Asceticism in the old Sanskrit means discipline like an artform to be mastered, in the east the Taoist's would travel into the monasteries which where the schools and be taught practices. the style of life in the Temple was built around sustaining the community at the Temple. Higher level individuals would go to area's and work in private with the higher level practices to transmute themselves into the perfected state. The Taoist texts and histories mention this. Same in India, the Greeks had Padmos the Island of Dionysus where the people would go into hermitage to work on the higher level practices.

The monk's image with the shaven head and such was stolen off the Pagan's the head was shaved that way to deal with serpent energy coming up the spine to the top of the head. The spiritual adepts shaved their body hair and the women wore wigs for this reason the energy can give rashes on the skin and scalp.

The point of this life was to be able to focus on the practices without external distractions of mundane life. Then when the work was finished people went back into the world and lived their lives as they wished. Have fun dealing with this all with bills to pay and several children to take care of and a household to run. In Vedic society for mundane people the serious level practices where given once they retired and their children had grown up and where living their own lives.

If you want to live a minimalist life style and focus your time on your practices and study that is a smart thing. This will unfold naturally as time goes on. Look at your chart and note what your likes are and also think about developing yourself there as well and do whatever you want with that in life.

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Re: Satanic perspective on asceticism, monasticism, and hermits?

Postby HailVictory88 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:26 pm

Thank you for your reply, HP.

I am not a Xian and I'm not considering doing some thing where I give things up for the sake of giving them up. What I would like to do is just a type of "functional" seclusion, for the goal of practically obtaining power. I just feel like I have so much nonsense that takes up my time throughout the day. I would rather get enough independent wealth to stay home and meditate and do RTRs. Also, I find the aesthetics of living in the woods by myself and meditating to be attractive, so I was wondering if there was some Satanic tradition behind this, which modern Xian monasticism perverted.

But I see your point on not dropping out of society, renouncing power, etc.

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Re: Satanic perspective on asceticism, monasticism, and hermits?

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:51 pm

HailVictory88 wrote:Thank you for your reply, HP.

I am not a Xian and I'm not considering doing some thing where I give things up for the sake of giving them up. What I would like to do is just a type of "functional" seclusion, for the goal of practically obtaining power. I just feel like I have so much nonsense that takes up my time throughout the day. I would rather get enough independent wealth to stay home and meditate and do RTRs. Also, I find the aesthetics of living in the woods by myself and meditating to be attractive, so I was wondering if there was some Satanic tradition behind this, which modern Xian monasticism perverted.

But I see your point on not dropping out of society, renouncing power, etc.


What you describe here is hardly 'seclusion', or actual 'asceticism'. You just want a life without many time consuming drainers and that's it, in a place with considerable amount of the ability to be alone in order to advance.

Asceticism and monasticism and all these terms are way 'heavier'. Regardless, none of the above are necessary to attain highly spiritually.

The reality of this situation aside what everyone else says and the idyllic aspect of it, is that knowledge is the big gap that people do not have, so they believe that "More" of that, or "Asceticism" is going to achieve a lot for them spiritually somehow.

You will have to ask those who spent 20 or more years to accomplish nothing spiritually as I cannot really answer these questions, and those that believe these people to be holy or knowledgeable.

A lot of weird stuff has been clothed on a spiritual perspective because of misappropriating (For centuries literally) what is legitimate spiritual practice and what it is not. This comes from the fact that most people have no clue on these matters.

You asked for a SATANIC perspective, and I gave that perspective. If we are now to converse about what every imbecilic lifeform has done through 'spirituality' on the subject, we can quote from Dalai Lama the rotting corpse to jews, and get all sorts of different opinions on the subject.

Now, if we are to say of the Whatever Perspective of every equation between crap and gold, and every sort of failure, yes, maybe you need to close yourself in a cell for 40 years to reach a baseline or frail type competent level of power. Maybe they need to?

For all I can see, they do too much drama for literally nothing of any spiritual value.

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Re: Satanic perspective on asceticism, monasticism, and hermits?

Postby HP Mageson666 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:13 am

Something people should do is work to avoid becoming into debt as this will suck you into a cycle that takes all your time in any slave job and exhausts you. The situation is some teenager goes to their parents and school counsellor and gets told they have to go to college or university to get ahead in life. So they go end up with a degree in anything that does nothing and now have tens of thousands of dollars of debt with usury to deal with. The people who joke about the social science degree's its not just that. I have known people with high degree's in serious fields and can't get a job in them. Even older people who worked for big companies with such degree's have lost these jobs and are forced down in pay grade.

Something the practices will do is change a person's psychological state so they are not into the false ideal of believing their stuff is their identity along with their value to the market place at that time which is the entire trap of society. People go into debt chasing that drug.

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Re: Satanic perspective on asceticism, monasticism, and hermits?

Postby HailVictory88 » Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:24 am

Those are good points. I should probably just focus on practical advancement right now than worry about drastic lifestyle changes. And it does seem now that a lot of people focus on asceticism because they don't know anything else.

I just get frustrated because I wish I could advance much faster, and sometimes it seems I need something drastic to induce this. But from past experience at a certain level I do know that consistent work can produce great results. I am sometimes too sensitive to external ideas and need to be more careful when viewing non-JOS information, being extra sensitive to energy is both a help and a pain at times.

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Re: Satanic perspective on asceticism, monasticism, and hermits?

Postby Jack » Wed Feb 13, 2019 7:08 am

Possibly after doing your duty(making a lot of kids and making sure they have a lot of kids) and achieving a lot of success and money, you could afford a secluded place powered with solar energy or some shit and retreat with your wife who'll aid you in the spiritual journey. That's how it went in the vedic age. Although there was also a part where in Early childhood you'd go to stay with a teachers house and he'd teach you and assign you a functional place in society though it doesn't look like that part can be replicated in this day and age,as its impossible to find a legitimate Guru to take you in. The better guides and the best guides are the Daemon mahasiddhas. You should seel solace in guidance from the gods.
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Re: Satanic perspective on asceticism, monasticism, and hermits?

Postby Scion of Atlantis » Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:18 am

You wouldn't be the first individual on here to consider asceticism and a hermit lifestyle. While it sounds at first as if it'd give you more time to focus on Spirituality, you also need to consider what you'd be loosing. How would you make money first of all? What is causing you to feel as if your current life isn't giving you enough time to focus on Spirituality? Would anything change if you became a hermit? Countless hermits and so called spiritual monks have sunk into poverty without a way to get out of it as a result of their choices, wasting decades of their lives away on stagnation and not exactly seeing spirituality for what it is. You can see as plain as day the Jewish corruption behind this, that the spiritual teachers of the Gentiles would run to the hills and live a solitary life of suffering and poverty away from the rest of the Goyim that the Jews are busy brainwashing and destroying.

The majority of ancient Pagan priests and the Serpent Cult guided or led their ancient civilizations at the top in the place of the Gods and directed the people according to the will of Satan as best as they could, not shun the world and retreat to a far off corner of it to be forgotten along with their teachings. When we have defeated the enemy and restored the sanity of our civilizations, I believe Satan will want us to take up those roles as leaders and teachers again as spiritually adept individuals and those who know Truth. To my knowledge, none of our Gods have ever recommended withdrawing from society wholesale unless circumstances in it were completely preventing you from spiritual advancing,(i.e in a heavily Xian dominated society or Communist nation).

I believe an ideal Satanic lifestyle today in regards to the social aspect is about having more or less a balance between secluded time and time spent in society. Part of your spiritual advancement is tied to your daily interactions with others, and the challenges and necessities related to such that allow you to observe as you shape the world and it's people around you as you advance and practice Satanism.
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Re: Satanic perspective on asceticism, monasticism, and hermits?

Postby Ol argedco luciftias » Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:03 pm

Ain't you ever seen Survivorman? :lol: Living alone out in the wild is hard work!!! Spending every moment looking for new sources of food, building and improving shelter, finding clean water, starting and maintaining fires. And you can't depend on any food source, or it will run out and you would starve. You need to know all of the plants to know which ones can you eat, which ones can be medicine, which are poison. Then with shifts in the weather and seasons, everything changes and you have to work up completely new food sources. There's an important reason societies developed; it lets people work less because they each have one job which provides that service to everybody, so each person no longer has to do every single thing themself. I can't imagine how living out alone in the wild could be any easier than living in modern society. The type of work has changed, but not really increased. If you have guaranteed food and shelter as long as you work, this is more than you can count on in the wild.
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Re: Satanic perspective on asceticism, monasticism, and hermits?

Postby HailVictory88 » Thu Feb 14, 2019 12:22 am

Thank you all for your replies :)

A lot of good food for thought there. I guess what I'm looking for is not an ascetic life but an effective one, a life where I'm minimizing wasted time and energy and doing the best I can to get my goals. Right now I am developing a career, it's a type of work I could do on my own with enough experience. I definitely don't think one should view having less to be a goal in itself, I want to be wealthy and powerful. But I've been thinking about this for a while and I do think it'd be awesome to have enough money to just advance all day. Perhaps that isn't what I'm meant to do, perhaps I have some duty with regard to public life that will come along. Right now I'm focusing on advancing, minimizing wasted time and cutting out unnecessary things, and earning money and developing career skills, and good work experience and reputation. Regardless of my future, such endeavors are good ideas for now.


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