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Understanding communism and the left

Postby Aquarius » Mon Jan 07, 2019 11:11 am

I would like to understand what kind of things people from the left believe about communism so I can have better discussions that don’t end with :”You didn’t even read marx!, you are just confused!”
What resources can I use to understand the enemies part? Reading this shit disgusts me but I wanna be more informed.
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Re: Understanding communism and the left

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:45 am

Any university curriculum of 'social' or 'politics' science would do. Just read the books recommended from any curriculum. You will get more than enough 'leftism' and communism for a few lifetimes. You can find these online.
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Re: Understanding communism and the left

Postby Aquarius » Tue Jan 08, 2019 10:53 am

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Any university curriculum of 'social' or 'politics' science would do. Just read the books recommended from any curriculum. You will get more than enough 'leftism' and communism for a few lifetimes. You can find these online.

Thanks a lot:)
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Re: Understanding communism and the left

Postby Jack » Tue Jan 08, 2019 11:19 am

Communism, Socialism, Liberalism and Post Modernism all are weeds of the same plant, Judaism. Reading your way through all of that shit can really Fuck Up someone's mental state, therefore always remember to refer back to Carl Schmitt or other Reich time philosophers.
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Re: Understanding communism and the left

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:11 pm

Aquarius wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Any university curriculum of 'social' or 'politics' science would do. Just read the books recommended from any curriculum. You will get more than enough 'leftism' and communism for a few lifetimes. You can find these online.

Thanks a lot:)


The question is why would you willingly want to ingest jewish shit into your own head, like, to 'disprove' it, and consider, there is a price for this type of endeavor. Your mind will be filled with shit, and then cleaning it may be difficult.

We are not about ignorance, but if you willingly corrupt your own head, be careful.

I have been warning against this more fervently than anybody. Many people do not take these things seriously.

You can corrode yourself and have your thought process ruined. Most of this material is MADE to deceive and to corrupt, so be careful.
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Re: Understanding communism and the left

Postby HPS Shannon » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:32 pm

Look towards history as well. Highlight how many hundreds of millions of people have died because of communism. Look to communist countries as well for an example. There are many outlets online to help you understand communism without the brainwashing ilk.

All you have to do is study communism and Judaism to be able to highlight the similarities.

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Re: Understanding communism and the left

Postby Aquarius » Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:56 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Any university curriculum of 'social' or 'politics' science would do. Just read the books recommended from any curriculum. You will get more than enough 'leftism' and communism for a few lifetimes. You can find these online.

Thanks a lot:)


The question is why would you willingly want to ingest jewish shit into your own head, like, to 'disprove' it, and consider, there is a price for this type of endeavor. Your mind will be filled with shit, and then cleaning it may be difficult.

We are not about ignorance, but if you willingly corrupt your own head, be careful.

I have been warning against this more fervently than anybody. Many people do not take these things seriously.

You can corrode yourself and have your thought process ruined. Most of this material is MADE to deceive and to corrupt, so be careful.
wow didn’t think it would be so dangerous, I think I’m better off reading our websites lol:) thanks for warning me Cobra bro:)
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Re: Understanding communism and the left

Postby Theli » Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:38 pm

Yeah, like the HP said, I think that history is the key.
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Re: Understanding communism and the left

Postby HailVictory88 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:22 am

I agree with what others have said about exercising caution when studying enemy material. In the past, I thought I was too smart to get tripped up by reading obviously false enemy nonsense, but their garbage is still dangerous. Not to say that one should never study controversial things, but be careful. If you're in doubt, it's best to stick with reading the clergy's critique of things like Communism, rather than reading leftist materials themselves. If you use discretion, reading material by people who were mostly woken up (but not fully Satanic) can also be useful, but still use caution, as even smart White Nationalists may have some subconscious enemy influence. George Lincoln Rockwell and Dr. William Pierce have done some very good work debunking leftists, although Rockwell does pander to Xians in some of his work (although he personally hated Xianity, as he stated in a private letter to Savitri Devi, I believe HP Mageson mentioned this.)

Right now, the popular thing among leftist academics (at least in America) seems to me to be the "critical race theory", feminism, "privilege" theories, etc. Leftists here seem to be less interested in traditional, economics-oriented Marxism and prefer the more explicitly chaotic, anti-White "deconstruction" theories. Most of the notable writers in these fields are clearly Jewish. Tim Wise, Noel Ignatiev, Susan Sontag, Betty Friedan, Gloria Steinem, etc. Their writing is some of the most disgusting, dishonest garbage in existence.

Jewish leftists used to be more subtle in their anti-White rhetoric and even tried to appeal to working-class Whites. Howard Zinn, a Jewish Marxist, mentioned how most Whites who were brought to America were economically dispossessed, not privileged elites. Eugene Genovese mentioned the same thing (Genovese supposedly repudiated his Marxism later in life, I'm not sure if this was genuine or if he just became a neocon, like many Marxists did.)

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Re: Understanding communism and the left

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:46 am

Aquarius wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:Thanks a lot:)


The question is why would you willingly want to ingest jewish shit into your own head, like, to 'disprove' it, and consider, there is a price for this type of endeavor. Your mind will be filled with shit, and then cleaning it may be difficult.

We are not about ignorance, but if you willingly corrupt your own head, be careful.

I have been warning against this more fervently than anybody. Many people do not take these things seriously.

You can corrode yourself and have your thought process ruined. Most of this material is MADE to deceive and to corrupt, so be careful.


wow didn’t think it would be so dangerous, I think I’m better off reading our websites lol:) thanks for warning me Cobra bro:)


You need to watch Yuri Bezmenov's interview. See it in Youtube, to see what this is all about. You will see these things are literally weapons, they are not viable clean ideas or ways of looking at the world.

You can read general political history, if that is what you want, but as for reading the enemy's filth for a prolonged period of time, it will corrode your thinking process.
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Re: Understanding communism and the left

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:00 am

HailVictory88 wrote:I agree with what others have said about exercising caution when studying enemy material. In the past, I thought I was too smart to get tripped up by reading obviously false enemy nonsense, but their garbage is still dangerous. Not to say that one should never study controversial things, but be careful. If you're in doubt, it's best to stick with reading the clergy's critique of things like Communism, rather than reading leftist materials themselves. If you use discretion, reading material by people who were mostly woken up (but not fully Satanic) can also be useful, but still use caution, as even smart White Nationalists may have some subconscious enemy influence. George Lincoln Rockwell and Dr. William Pierce have done some very good work debunking leftists, although Rockwell does pander to Xians in some of his work (although he personally hated Xianity, as he stated in a private letter to Savitri Devi, I believe HP Mageson mentioned this.)

Right now, the popular thing among leftist academics (at least in America) seems to me to be the "critical race theory", feminism, "privilege" theories, etc. Leftists here seem to be less interested in traditional, economics-oriented Marxism and prefer the more explicitly chaotic, anti-White "deconstruction" theories. Most of the notable writers in these fields are clearly Jewish. Tim Wise, Noel Ignatiev, Susan Sontag, Betty Friedan, Gloria Steinem, etc. Their writing is some of the most disgusting, dishonest garbage in existence.

Jewish leftists used to be more subtle in their anti-White rhetoric and even tried to appeal to working-class Whites. Howard Zinn, a Jewish Marxist, mentioned how most Whites who were brought to America were economically dispossessed, not privileged elites. Eugene Genovese mentioned the same thing (Genovese supposedly repudiated his Marxism later in life, I'm not sure if this was genuine or if he just became a neocon, like many Marxists did.)


You understand that the 'left' and 'communism' side of guys, have like whole paid wings, for centuries now, to write fancy stuff and deceive people to turn their brains progressively to shit?

Notice, PROGRESSIVELY. The brainwashing process is also compulsory and continuous, it doesn't happen overnight. Many people hate them also, but after sitting a good 5 or 6 years in a place to forcibly listen to their shit, then, at the very least, they learn tolerance for jews who advocate basically your extinction in front of your face, as a token of "Open mindedness". You have to eat their shit to be an "open minded" thinker.

Nobody sane accepts their shit at once. This is why they have zero support most of the time other than a few revolutionary retards who have fun burning people's places down and assaulting random individuals on the street. They are not appealing as much as they project. Anyone past their 20's forsakes their bullshit, but the mental stain still remains, affecting people later in life in future decisions.

You never start out as a Communist unless you are a jew or a dumb kid. And something has to be wrong in your head to consider it's normal for example to put all people out of their owned things and impose the rule of 'communization' to all of them. Who the fuck are you to say this? Is one any better than a jew at the Fed who literally believes all the world's wealth belongs to them? These beliefs are mental illness if one looks at these with simple thinking.

You probably start as a "Socialist" or some other mediocre, rainbow promising, wing. They don't tell you they will rob your house and give it to the future mass slave state, same way as a Capitalist banker isn't telling you the Fed is there only to steal from you with corporate income tax, that is unreasonable for the most part. These truths are understood earlier when shit either hits the fan, or you become too 'wise' on these theories yourself, by being allied to them, and in knowledge of what trash you are promoting.

I think you guys really need to see a few times Yuri Bezmenov's interview. Look at it and ingrain it to your mind.

This is not intellectual conversation like Ancient Greek philosophers. These are jews who are weaving theories to ruin our brains in front of us.

They can never be considered scientists or intellectuals.
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Re: Understanding communism and the left

Postby Godmode » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:01 pm

It's easy to plant corrupted beliefs into your mind when reading about Marxism because it relies on language that is specific to the subject matter. Nobody would know about intersectionality or gender spectrums if they haven't read about that crap. Even getting enough of the lingo memorized to debate some of them can be pretty confusing. I think most of the best arguments against it you will find are here in the forums.
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Re: Understanding communism and the left

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Re: Understanding communism and the left

Postby Aquarius » Sat Jan 12, 2019 3:52 am

SdD wrote:better become a specialist in ... NS !!

Very true!:)
Quando la Dea delle sventure mi abbracciò e spesso minacciò di schiacciarmi, la volontà di resistere crebbe, e infine quella volontà fu vittoriosa.

When the Goddess of trouble embraced me and often threatened to crush me, the will to resist grew, and at last that will was victorious.

Adolf Hitler

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Re: Understanding communism and the left

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 12:37 pm

Aquarius wrote:
SdD wrote:better become a specialist in ... NS !!

Very true!:)


The situation is you have forgotten some fundamentals because some people have been friendly to the worms and spiders of their own opinions and past, and proposed this as some sort of 'liberating thinking' or 'intelligence'.

If you go into the sewer to have a drink, just remember, the Hell Bar is over there, you know?
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Re: Understanding communism and the left

Postby Aquarius » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:20 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
SdD wrote:better become a specialist in ... NS !!

Very true!:)


The situation is you have forgotten some fundamentals because some people have been friendly to the worms and spiders of their own opinions and past, and proposed this as some sort of 'liberating thinking' or 'intelligence'.

If you go into the sewer to have a drink, just remember, the Hell Bar is over there, you know?
True, having debates with these people is completely meaningless, these people will only believe what is comfortable for them and are essentially goyim, I will refrain from wasting time with them.
Quando la Dea delle sventure mi abbracciò e spesso minacciò di schiacciarmi, la volontà di resistere crebbe, e infine quella volontà fu vittoriosa.

When the Goddess of trouble embraced me and often threatened to crush me, the will to resist grew, and at last that will was victorious.

Adolf Hitler

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Re: Understanding communism and the left

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:27 pm

Aquarius wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:Very true!:)


The situation is you have forgotten some fundamentals because some people have been friendly to the worms and spiders of their own opinions and past, and proposed this as some sort of 'liberating thinking' or 'intelligence'.

If you go into the sewer to have a drink, just remember, the Hell Bar is over there, you know?
True, having debates with these people is completely meaningless, these people will only believe what is comfortable for them and are essentially goyim, I will refrain from wasting time with them.


It's more effective to put out your points in front of them, rather than their points. This is because their points are most of the time unfounded lies, too far from reality in every way, so one cannot really hope to 'disprove' them. Another situation is they know their points are false, and they just keep going due to simply liking what they are doing.

If you watch political debates you will see why this is the case. Communists cannot be 'reasoned' with. Their reasoning up to this point, is a whole different reasoning than people normally arguing. To circumvent this, you can use logical points that rely on simple logic, not extremely deep politics, let alone of their own stupidity.

To reason with someone, you need some common values, but the Communist has no values of any sort, other than serving the jews. Effectively the only thing that may work is either to show them the extremely obvious facts, such as the jewishness of their beliefs etc. Aka, to show them the obvious viewpoint, rather than to argue theirs. Because there are also so many Communist intellectuals they can simply cite another one like one pulls infinite verses from the jewish bible.

Do Communists come to you and try to explain you out of the races are different OBVIOUSLY NATURAL thing for example? All they do is repeat 'humans are equal' to the end of time.
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Re: Understanding communism and the left

Postby Aquarius » Sat Jan 12, 2019 2:42 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
The situation is you have forgotten some fundamentals because some people have been friendly to the worms and spiders of their own opinions and past, and proposed this as some sort of 'liberating thinking' or 'intelligence'.

If you go into the sewer to have a drink, just remember, the Hell Bar is over there, you know?
True, having debates with these people is completely meaningless, these people will only believe what is comfortable for them and are essentially goyim, I will refrain from wasting time with them.


It's more effective to put out your points in front of them, rather than their points. This is because their points are most of the time unfounded lies, too far from reality in every way, so one cannot really hope to 'disprove' them. Another situation is they know their points are false, and they just keep going due to simply liking what they are doing.

If you watch political debates you will see why this is the case. Communists cannot be 'reasoned' with. Their reasoning up to this point, is a whole different reasoning than people normally arguing. To circumvent this, you can use logical points that rely on simple logic, not extremely deep politics, let alone of their own stupidity.

To reason with someone, you need some common values, but the Communist has no values of any sort, other than serving the jews. Effectively the only thing that may work is either to show them the extremely obvious facts, such as the jewishness of their beliefs etc. Aka, to show them the obvious viewpoint, rather than to argue theirs. Because there are also so many Communist intellectuals they can simply cite another one like one pulls infinite verses from the jewish bible.

Do Communists come to you and try to explain you out of the races are different OBVIOUSLY NATURAL thing for example? All they do is repeat 'humans are equal' to the end of time.
Yes, but even after putting common points they would rather lie completely and ‘not understand’ them than to admit that their beliefs are wrong. So yeah, this episode of me creating this post was because I was in belarus, a shithole which looks like 1950, I wouldnt exagerate if I said that it was the worst vacation in my life, I came home and it was like I had hallucinations on that place, it’s like it brought me to such a low dimensional level, the place is white and black and those who live there are all brainwashed to think communism was good and that the place is a democracy while it’s still a dictatureship lol, useless to say I am never ever gonna step foot on that shit ever again as just even thinking about the place makes me feel disgusted, when I came back to Italy I was about to kiss the ground lol
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