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Saturn Loosing its Rings: Have the Enemy ETs Given Up on Earth?

Postby ZmajEriksson » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:31 pm

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Postby luis » Sat Dec 29, 2018 9:32 pm

ZmajEriksson wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/saturn-losing-rings-faster-than-thought-nasa-2018-12

Or our ETs attacked? Or both...?

Anyway this is good news, Saturn without the ring is much less powerful!

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Postby Aquarius » Sat Dec 29, 2018 10:45 pm

I doubt this but if it’s true that’s great.
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Postby Poweredbythesun » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:06 pm

This really does put a smile on my face : )

As for if it's real though, I have no doubts the enemy ETs maintaining the rings are under attack by our gods. And as logic would follow, the rings of Saturn would be one of the first targets as they are an amplifier for Saturn's energy. The enemy that still are here on Earth must be shitting themselves about now, or preparing to abandon Earth as our Gods draw nearer each day.
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Postby NinRick » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:40 pm

ZmajEriksson wrote:https://www.businessinsider.com/saturn-losing-rings-faster-than-thought-nasa-2018-12


Saturn will probably maintain those rings for around 100.000.000years according to this and other articles.
So I do not think that they have given up on those rings yet
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Postby ZmajEriksson » Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:23 am

Aquarius wrote:I doubt this but if it’s true that’s great.


From my experience Buisiness Insider seems to be a reliable news source, though I'm not sure what kind of political bias they have
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Postby HP Mageson666 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:19 am

If so it means energy for the leviathan grid.

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Postby Ol argedco luciftias » Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:32 am

They used to put a huge amount of energy into maintaining and creating these rings. They're loosing so much here they're forced to abandon their Saturn project and focus all their last bits of power here on Earth. Running out fast! Great sign! :D

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Postby darkmonkey666 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:35 am

This is cool good to hear but didn't the Gods or someone also do something to the energy of Saturn that made it a little more positive as well. I used the Saturn working recently to gain more earth like energy and material success. (Maybe I shouldn't have done that BUT) The energy produced had a distinct orangish teal color and felt not as bad by far as when I did that before over a year ago. Nothing negative happened either.

Just thinking if indeed that is even Saturns energy and not something unrelated I am getting better but I am still not able to fully identify the source of things. This energy had a kind of mystical earthy but hopeless type feel to it. But that is definitely better than Saturns energy years ago when I was much more open (I made some mistakes and lost my abilities long story)

Just a thought.

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Postby Ghost in the Machine » Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:49 am

I've been doing workings to remove the curses of Saturn for a while now, this is nice to finally see.
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Postby Νίκος » Sun Dec 30, 2018 10:58 am

darkmonkey666 wrote:This is cool good to hear but didn't the Gods or someone also do something to the energy of Saturn that made it a little more positive as well. I used the Saturn working recently to gain more earth like energy and material success. (Maybe I shouldn't have done that BUT) The energy produced had a distinct orangish teal color and felt not as bad by far as when I did that before over a year ago. Nothing negative happened either.

Just thinking if indeed that is even Saturns energy and not something unrelated I am getting better but I am still not able to fully identify the source of things. This energy had a kind of mystical earthy but hopeless type feel to it. But that is definitely better than Saturns energy years ago when I was much more open (I made some mistakes and lost my abilities long story)

Just a thought.

Clearly everyone needs KSaturn!He is useful for curses and black magic the ruler of our base chakra etc.!But with his current form he is much stronger than we want him to be!Without his rings he will be very weaker so he will not have such but effects on us!

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Postby Aquarius » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:17 am

HP Mageson666 wrote:If so it means energy for the leviathan grid.
what? So the rings dissapearing mean that it will give energy to the leviathan grid?
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Postby darkmonkey666 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:33 pm

It's great to know that its losing its rings but the thing is I am not sure how something disappearing in millions of years will help us.

Yeah I know we need Saturn. Maybe it's because he is conjunct my ruling planet and I have spent a lot of time working through my issues that I don't get the negative energy from it cause I have spent some years trying to overcome this naturaly. Last Saturn Transit actually helped me and I haven't had any bad luck for awhile.

I noticed also that its energy helped me feel more organized and less head in the clouds and also grounded.

I guess it still could have very negative effects on someone not consciously trying to overcome it and use it for good things and putting effort into that.

Maybe it didn't change.

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Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:37 pm

And how exactly is this supposed to affect us or makes anything of what stated valid?

Maybe in the first place astronomers already done a miscalculation, it happens.

There is possibility it is also just another theory on it, too. As to how this is supposed to relate to ETs there do not seem to be so many connective lines if any.
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Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:42 pm

darkmonkey666 wrote:It's great to know that its losing its rings but the thing is I am not sure how something disappearing in millions of years will help us.

Yeah I know we need Saturn. Maybe it's because he is conjunct my ruling planet and I have spent a lot of time working through my issues that I don't get the negative energy from it cause I have spent some years trying to overcome this naturaly. Last Saturn Transit actually helped me and I haven't had any bad luck for awhile.

I noticed also that its energy helped me feel more organized and less head in the clouds and also grounded.

I guess it still could have very negative effects on someone not consciously trying to overcome it and use it for good things and putting effort into that.

Maybe it didn't change.


This is because that Saturn is ONLY and ONLY evil is a large misconception the people
have took too far, to the domain of evil boogeyman at this point.

Saturn can have the effects you describe and more. Saturn also is a principle of nature, not the unnatural evil boogeyman enemy of all life planet.

The ancients did use to celebrate Saturn like other planets without any issues.

Saturn rules things like death and decomposing without which life cannot go on, for example.
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Postby Aquarius » Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:55 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:And how exactly is this supposed to affect us or makes anything of what stated valid?

Maybe in the first place astronomers already done a miscalculation, it happens.

There is possibility it is also just another theory on it, too. As to how this is supposed to relate to ETs there do not seem to be so many connective lines if any.
exactly, the lines are artificial and created by et’s, this new theory on rings dissapearing is doubtful.
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Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:08 pm

Aquarius wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:And how exactly is this supposed to affect us or makes anything of what stated valid?

Maybe in the first place astronomers already done a miscalculation, it happens.

There is possibility it is also just another theory on it, too. As to how this is supposed to relate to ETs there do not seem to be so many connective lines if any.

exactly, the lines are artificial and created by et’s, this new theory on rings dissapearing is doubtful.


Or maybe they are natural and they just disappear faster. Or not disappear at all.

Rather keep an open mind. According to jews angels and mermaids live on the moon, and "angels" on the surface of planets. They believe it too. But do they?
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Postby luis » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:18 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Aquarius wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:And how exactly is this supposed to affect us or makes anything of what stated valid?

Maybe in the first place astronomers already done a miscalculation, it happens.

There is possibility it is also just another theory on it, too. As to how this is supposed to relate to ETs there do not seem to be so many connective lines if any.

exactly, the lines are artificial and created by et’s, this new theory on rings dissapearing is doubtful.


Or maybe they are natural and they just disappear faster. Or not disappear at all.

Rather keep an open mind. According to jews angels and mermaids live on the moon, and "angels" on the surface of planets. They believe it too. But do they?

Until know i thought they were artificial and created by the enemy to use like antena to send more energy on earth so ((they)) could use it to enslave us. This is what i've read on here, guess it's wrong?

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Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:26 pm

luis wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Aquarius wrote: exactly, the lines are artificial and created by et’s, this new theory on rings dissapearing is doubtful.


Or maybe they are natural and they just disappear faster. Or not disappear at all.

Rather keep an open mind. According to jews angels and mermaids live on the moon, and "angels" on the surface of planets. They believe it too. But do they?


Until know i thought they were artificial and created by the enemy to use like antena to send more energy on earth so ((they)) could use it to enslave us. This is what i've read on here, guess it's wrong?


There are many things in many books about Saturn and the Saturn cult etc, and how even 'aliens' have used the planet. All these have different theories on Saturn, Solar System, etc. Flat earths, Nibiru coming anytime now to crash on us, hollow earth and moon, and many other bizarre theories.

As for the enemy using Saturn's spiritual energy, of course. But is this the only energy they have used? Haven't they used Sun for their wealth, and Mars to incite war, for example?

There is also another falsified belief that if Saturn didn't exist for example, there wouldn't exist 'negativity' on the planet. That is wrong, everything decomposes, with or without evil boogeyman. Stars die out and disappear but this isn't cause of Saturn.
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Postby sip » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:04 pm

HP thank you for clearing the Saturn issue up and giving us another perspective. As a Capricorn I was a bit worried lol. I am one of those that thought everything you just mentioned.

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Postby Ghost in the Machine » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:02 pm

Saturn is the greater malefic but this does not mean it isn't capable of benefits any more than Jupiter, the greater benefic, isn't capable of negativity. I know my Jupiter causes me issues in regards to health. I plan to deal with it eventually but as of now I am doing workings to be rid of Saturn's negative aspects. Notice how I said negative aspects and not all of it's aspects.
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Postby darkmonkey666 » Mon Dec 31, 2018 1:56 pm

Saturn is not all bad but what I do notice is anyone who has a planet conjunct it directly in my chart is that I tend to think the expression of that planet is superficial or it conflicts with my personal values in some way. Sometimes to the point of hostility towards that person or the area of life that planet represents.

I don't get that same vibe from planets in the same sign as my Saturn that dont touch it btw.

That's my only other insight on this.

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Postby luis » Mon Dec 31, 2018 7:43 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
luis wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Or maybe they are natural and they just disappear faster. Or not disappear at all.

Rather keep an open mind. According to jews angels and mermaids live on the moon, and "angels" on the surface of planets. They believe it too. But do they?


Until know i thought they were artificial and created by the enemy to use like antena to send more energy on earth so ((they)) could use it to enslave us. This is what i've read on here, guess it's wrong?


There are many things in many books about Saturn and the Saturn cult etc, and how even 'aliens' have used the planet. All these have different theories on Saturn, Solar System, etc. Flat earths, Nibiru coming anytime now to crash on us, hollow earth and moon, and many other bizarre theories.

As for the enemy using Saturn's spiritual energy, of course. But is this the only energy they have used? Haven't they used Sun for their wealth, and Mars to incite war, for example?

There is also another falsified belief that if Saturn didn't exist for example, there wouldn't exist 'negativity' on the planet. That is wrong, everything decomposes, with or without evil boogeyman. Stars die out and disappear but this isn't cause of Saturn.

Okay, thanks for the explaination.

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Postby ZmajEriksson » Tue Jan 01, 2019 10:05 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
luis wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Or maybe they are natural and they just disappear faster. Or not disappear at all.

Rather keep an open mind. According to jews angels and mermaids live on the moon, and "angels" on the surface of planets. They believe it too. But do they?


Until know i thought they were artificial and created by the enemy to use like antena to send more energy on earth so ((they)) could use it to enslave us. This is what i've read on here, guess it's wrong?


There are many things in many books about Saturn and the Saturn cult etc, and how even 'aliens' have used the planet. All these have different theories on Saturn, Solar System, etc. Flat earths, Nibiru coming anytime now to crash on us, hollow earth and moon, and many other bizarre theories.

As for the enemy using Saturn's spiritual energy, of course. But is this the only energy they have used? Haven't they used Sun for their wealth, and Mars to incite war, for example?

There is also another falsified belief that if Saturn didn't exist for example, there wouldn't exist 'negativity' on the planet. That is wrong, everything decomposes, with or without evil boogeyman. Stars die out and disappear but this isn't cause of Saturn.


I admit I most likely got over excited about this and drew an irrational conclusion so I understand if you decide to delete the thread. However, I still believe the sermon posted less than two years ago that said the rings are artificial and meant to amplify the planets energies for the Jews to use against us
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Postby darkmonkey666 » Wed Jan 02, 2019 11:21 am

I read that sermon too so I am a little confused by this. I was skeptical a little on the rings being made by ets at first but then again I am glad if this is not the case.
Uranus has rings to though I doubt the enemy would want that. So I dont know.

With that said. Cannot Saturn give people power and mastery over the material and high social Status and a certain ruthless power. That is kind of what I would like from him (though not the coldness I want happiness kindness etc too I just want the power).

I am kind of jealous of that power he gives certain people wish I could tap in lol.

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Postby zolaluckystar » Sun Jan 06, 2019 2:08 pm

I think this is a super interesting topic, so....I wanted to add my own 2 cents :)

According to Dr. Bergrun who wrote the book The ringmakers of saturn the rings of saturn are produced by ET's. So, if the rings are disappearing, there could be one of two possible explanations for this. One, because the enemy ships aren't producing more, ie they have stopped. So the question then becomes, why? It could be because they have moved on, as Jupiter and Uranus have recently been 'discovered' to have rings. Or, because something/someone stopped them there at Saturn.

Dr Bergrun worked for Ames Research Laboratory, NACA (National Advisory Committee for Aeronautics) predecessor of Ames Research Center, NASA where he worked twelve years as a research scientist. He was one of the few if not the only one that could read telemetry and/or data and tell you what it meant. He held a security clearance at lockheed that was way above top secret, higher than that of the president of the united states. He saw craft in the hanger that as he said made him realize theres a lot more out there than he'd suspected.

Some people think Bergrun some kind of nut job for coming out with a book on such a topic. However there are actual images of these crafts; cigar shaped things that are absolutely massive in size. These aren't some blurry photographs of spaceships or Bigfoot. They are real photos taken by NASA, who were probably rather upset they managed to let those pictures sneak through their censorship. Bergrun used only 'official' gov't images. No shots by himself or by any other people. So nobody can start in on what type of camera was it, what kind of film...bla bla bla. He's aware that nasa alters the footage however he was able to find some things that they thought they'd covered up. One of their people actually said to him: “I thought we'd darkened that enough that people wouldn't find it!”

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He identified the characteristics of these craft in the rings, he says its electrical. Electromagnetic.
Voyager one was looking for plasma in Saturns rings, the presence of such they recorded in different frequencies. Matter exists in four states: Solid, liquid, gas and plasma (gas at a high temp).What Voyager was finding was spreads of plasma. These rod shaped craft, whatever they are...they create what the physicists call potential lines, streamline patterns....also called pinched plasma.......and that this is an electrical energy signature. This is not a theory, this is a fact.

Bergun wrote "Ringmakers of Saturn" about these enormous craft and for daring to write a book about it, became outcast from the scientific community. Because there is a conspiracy of silencing anyone who doesn't toe the party line. He was being a 'bad' goyim. He said at the age of 91 that he wasn't sure anymore what he had anymore; his place had been burgled, and many files mysteriously vanished or if on disc, scrambled somehow so the information was incoherent. Made me think of how when Tesla died, they swooped in and all HIS stuff 'mysteriously' vanished as well.

Bergun states that the age of these craft are ancient. That these cigar shaped vehicles (EMV's) are massive in length. Some of these vehicles are over one hundred miles in length! Could these possibly be cylindrical shaped ice or rock? It's possible, but highly unlikely. The good doctor believes these are space ships that are creating the rings themselves. Before blowing off this thesis as some kind of whacked out bullshit spaceship baloney, take the time to study the real hard facts on what he has to show. This stuff is real. He is a man who had it drilled into his head early on in his career, that you never go on feelings, only facts. I believe this man, personally. He said the EMV's can come in all sizes, and can come in real low to a planet. Like ours, for instance. The rings of saturn EMV's are hundreds of miles long. He has seen them lined up and essentially crossing all the rings of saturn at once (images never released to the public). That's 22 times the diameter of the earth.

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He left his top secret job because he said he became 'claustrophobic'... I was watching his eyes as he said this and while the interviewer took it at face value, oh because you worked in a windowless environment...I think it was more than that. He saw how we are being lied to, and he didn't like it. Thats the feeling I got, personally, watching him.

In one of his interviews, he mentions briefly in passing that at a congress in Rome for UNESCO (United Nations Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization), he was invited to speak and the topic, they wanted something on the impact of science on culture.
What he spoke about was that the so-called global warming....he proposed that this can very well be the way things are going with EMV's (electro magnetic vehicle) present around earth. He said they have prodigious energy. They can be impacting our weather here.

Unfortunately the interviewer didn't follow up on this tidbit he dangled but led the conversation off elsewhere and this was the only bit he revealed. I found it tantalizing.

He shows that the evidence is available for an existence for a type 2 or even 3 civilization, there is evidence to show that there is the existence of these EMV's. But, he says, nobody appears to want to hear it! And of course we all know why, because the surface people (us) we are not to know, we are to be kept in the dark, kept isolated. Kept from knowing because we'd realize we're prisoners. This world (as it is now) is a prison. A corral for the livestock. So what I'm postulating......I'm thinking we're in like the middle of an armed camp of the enemy. I mean, its not just on earth. Its the whole damned solar system.

So now I want to diverge here for a minute, in regards to global warming which I mentioned in passing.

The Earth has something called the Milankovitch Cycles, periodic changes in earths orbit and spin, which are largely driven by Jupiters influence, and give us our cycles of glaciation. And in fact, we look to be heading into another ice age, not global 'warming'.

Even the sun feels the tug of jupiter. The center of mass of the sun jupiter system is located just above the solar surface and both the sun and jupiter orbit around it.

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An interesting tidbit about jupiter is a hypothesis called The Grand Tack Hypothesis. Which postulates jupiter spent the first part of its life embedded deeply in the thick proto-planetary disc. Drag from that gas sapped angular momentum from jupiter, drawing it in close to the sun, and that Saturn then followed it in, where they established orbital resonance to each other. This changed how they interacted with the rest of the disc, and the two then slowly migrated back out till they reached their current positions. This change of direction is the 'tack' in the grand tack. Now interestingly, this hypothesis solves several problems with the way our current inner solar system is laid out.

Simulations run have shown that a protoplanetary disc capable of forming venus and earth should have formed ANOTHER massive planet, roughly where Mars is now. But Mars is roughly 10% of earths mass. So now, I thought this very interesting: Other REAL exo-planetary systems tend to have super earths, rocky planets several times the mass of our earth.

And yet, we don't have one, they say. But, we know we DID have one.

It was destroyed by the enemy, and became what we know as the asteroid belt, and Mars, one of its moons, is all thats left there now.

Also the moon of Saturn, Iapetus, is an artificial hollow moon that orbital mechanic's show was parked into place; not captured by the gravity of the planet. The same has been suggested for our moon here. I've also heard that most of the moons of the solar system are likewise; if not parked there, at the very least have been built into. Look at how many moons there are:

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Its a bit boggling to imagine - what if all those moons really are built out too?
I also just wanted to throw this in because its incredible: the explosions of shoemaker levy on Jupiter. One of those explosions alone is bigger than our earth. I just threw that in because its so awesome even though its off topic, sorry :)

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But back to what I was saying: What if the enemy knows damned well these things (EMV's) are real and are here (since its them).....we know global warming is a scam to bilk people/countries out of massive taxes.....milk us for more shekles......when in fact the earth has a cycle of change that is natural, there IS no global warming. And what if its their ships causing this disturbance in our weather? I'm sure there are other factors as well...but its pretty interesting and again shows that their crimes against us are so incredibly massive, it literally beggars belief.

This 'global warming' is not a bunch of goyim in cars who are taxed to death for carbon (one of the building blocks of life). So...the rings of saturn are dissipating. I think this is very intriguing and I'd love to know why. Because whatever the explanation for it is, we can be sure whatever 'official' explanation we are given.....is most likely the stuff you spread on your gardens to help them grow.

There are many factors at play and its pretty hard to know when we are kept in the dark and fed bullshit. Crazy days on prison earth.

Heres the link to that sermon you were referencing

The Extreme Reality Of This Solar System And Life On Prison Earth

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4148
“My wisdom is not separate from my heart” - Satan


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