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Why did music begin to get dumbed down from the start of 2006 and up?

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I was observing the music I listened to growing up from rock bands to alternative, to metal, and some music back then that was actually mainstream (from rock bands mostly) had a positive message and light to them and they helped a lot of people struggling with mental health issues and any social issues that the world may have encountered.

Nowadays, the music market is saturated with disgusting rap music that literally just works by sugarcoating the fuck out of any other mainstream song and recycling it.

And pop music that teenage girls worship and fall heads over heels for any popstars. It's fucking ridiculous to see, honestly.

Back in the early 2000's (and under), lots of great bands existed and were actually popular AND lots of good music was being distributed to the public with a powerful meaning. It saddens me to see that this market's pretty much dead. I see no value in rap music (that is being played today) or pop music, because it's literally repetitive songs about how this one rapper fucked another rapper's bitch and how every rapper "fucked my bitch" and all those amazing and creative lines that sound like they're written by a fucking preteen.

I understand that the market appeals to younger audiences and they're the main target, but how come this sort of music was mainstream back then and it had a positive meaning and image, and now it isn't anymore? Surely the youth are changing for the worse, and I feel like this is some sort of brain washing going on with younger people and making sure they grow up ignorant and obsessed with material things because "muh favorite artist has them" instead of actually being positive people in the world.

Discuss, I genuinely want to talk about this topic because I'm a person that is genuinely passionate about music and think it's helped me push through a lot of things that I've encountered in life, and I myself do music as a hobby.
 
yes your right music have changed,music today is just crap,rapping without choros and only about weed,bitches and money of course its the jewsish music industry what do you expect.snoop dogs manager is a Jew,jay z's manager is a Jew,almost all this big names you see have Jewish managers.rock music wasnt jewish then and also pop music too but nowadays the Jews have taken everything and they are pushing very hard to infiltrate the masses.at first during the 70's rap music was to tell the people about whats happening in the government,people listened it was never about gang or drugs but when the Jews took over during straight outta campton everything changed it was when gangbang violence and drugs started.so you see.just ignore the crap music there are still good music out there to listen to.that don't involve any Jewishness.
me i personally don't like rap music much,only the ones with chorus,the rest don't make sense.I just don't know how they are sweet to people.
 
I grew up on alternative rock. It literally is the reason I found Satanism to begin with and rebelled against xtianity. Note I was listening to mainstream music at the time and it did have the spirit you describe. I wondered for awhile what happened. There may still be a few good songs out there in this genre but I noticed too its lost its edge. Its much more conforming and materialist these days.

Anyone actually know any good alternative rock or rap that is deeper and actually has a somewhat positive message or at least a message against xtianity or the culture today. Idk it's hard to find. I think part of the coming generation is screwed if people dont take back the music.
 
Here are some examples of what I meant by mainstream music back then that has this spirit:
https://youtu.be/Os_35OUCGNQ
https://youtu.be/mdJDPepGOAM
Especially this one
https://youtu.be/f4SOlKSeztc
Where is this stuff today.
 
If you notice, every decade (with the '70s being a terrible blip) music gets worse and worse, so it's not just from 2006. The jew knows sheeple will go along with things anyway.

Kurt Cobain was pessimistic, "Oh, well. Whatever. Nevermind." Then with that attitude, blew his head off, because he thought he couldn't be a good dad to his daughter, with that dirty kike love, love, love. He disagreed with his parents' xianity and felt lost, teaching Children Load up on guns, bring your friends; it's fun to lose and to pretend...With the lights out it's less dangerous; here we are now, entertain us; I feel stupid and contagious; here we are now, entertain us The repeated "hello" sounded like no-one was listening to him. Still, the jew made shekels from it.

With the K-rap (because the letter K is kool to use) in virtually every song, it's as if someone wants to engangsta-ise the living daylights out of non-Black gangsta OGs (or because dey ain't gangsta, dey's nOGs (not a racist slur, I meant not OGs, nOGs, n'OGs), because Whitey ain't no gangsta (no matter how much some wish they were and try to copy their style and culture, etc.). Then, on the other hand, Whitey will be blamed for stealing that culture/music. If so, then the OGs should stop putting their K-rap into museeq which ain't gangsta, because by doing so, that ain't gangsta.

Then on the other other hand, Black hip-hop artists praise White Eminem as being better than they (if they didn't praise him as being better at their own shit (meaning "their own thing", G), then they would not be very 'celebritical' for much longer, seen? I and I realised dat, seen?
https://youtu.be/pNy6xVfumgQ

Notice "Em" doesn't rap about himself all the time arrogantly; getting bitchezz; going on killing sprees; fucking da po-po. Well, it's more political than vain materialism, hey duduj00? If you want to get off the hook, just tell the judge it's Em's fault, and he'll get sued! We know he didn't like Kim, so he was lamenting, and making money from it.

(loud whisper Notice also that Slim Shady ain't gangsta, so he had to try again. Maybe there was an agenda there.)

By the way, in case you forgot or happened to not know - MJJ got (what some think is) his Bum Boy, poor Macaulay Culkin, to mime rap "...I'm not gunna spend my life being a colour"
Poor Michael Jackson was very political, but also self-biographical, as well. He was more troubled and tortured, than vain. Sort of... He had the most expensive music video ever made (they just humoured him, inflating the price enough), and tried filling a void with materialism and things, though.

This song is very apt -
https://youtu.be/-GoJQxAxEfU
 
darkmonkey666 said:
Here are some examples of what I meant by mainstream music back then that has this spirit:
https://youtu.be/Os_35OUCGNQ
https://youtu.be/mdJDPepGOAM
Especially this one
https://youtu.be/f4SOlKSeztc
Where is this stuff today.

Bands like Three Days Grace, Papa Roach, The Fray and 3 Doors Down were some of the most powerful bands in history and you could truly feel their good intentions.

https://youtu.be/lL2ZwXj1tXM
This song for example is very powerful and has a good meaning behind it, but now you can't find that anymore. Even in rap music nowadays, rappers that are "emotional" or make sad songs that somewhat help people go through, end up getting killed. Despite not being a huge fan of rap though, I always respected the message it had, but nowadays it's just outright bad.
 
It's honestly systematic conditioning by decade or generation . Just like every art form they make it more and more mind numbing little by little to program our youth into being worse and worse mentally. Just think todays music would have been laughed at 30 years ago. Same thing with 'modern (F)art' and how much they can get away with in film nowadays.
 
People like what they listened in their youth and usually have a hard time relating to newer stuff it's well known.

Also "Sturgeon's Law" : https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SturgeonsLaw
 
Sinistra said:
People like what they listened in their youth and usually have a hard time relating to newer stuff it's well known.

Also "Sturgeon's Law" : https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SturgeonsLaw

I listened to a lot of rap music as I grew up (which was your usual ignorant music about money and bitches). I am of the "newer generation" as well.

This isn't me complaining so much about the music, it's just the fact how musically we've gone down quite a lot. White people are almost non existent in the industry as well, except for women that are extremely slutty and people that just have good looks that seem to make teenage girls go crazy.

I don't dislike new music, I just think it's meaningless compared to rock bands that everyone listened to from 96 till 2009.
 
Sinistra said:
People like what they listened in their youth and usually have a hard time relating to newer stuff it's well known.

Also "Sturgeon's Law" : https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SturgeonsLaw

While it is very well known phenomenon that people are more uncomfortable with change and new things as they grow older, there is also a fact that something very different happened to the music, and this has been going on for several decades already. Even today's teens increasingly complain of the crap it is on the radio every day.

And, everything is very well explained in this video, which analyzes the issue with todays music to the core: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVME_l4IwII&t=580s
 
Larissa666 said:
Sinistra said:
People like what they listened in their youth and usually have a hard time relating to newer stuff it's well known.

Also "Sturgeon's Law" : https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SturgeonsLaw

While it is very well known phenomenon that people are more uncomfortable with change and new things as they grow older, there is also a fact that something very different happened to the music, and this has been going on for several decades already. Even today's teens increasingly complain of the crap it is on the radio every day.

And, everything is very well explained in this video, which analyzes the issue with todays music to the core: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVME_l4IwII&t=580s
It's nothing new. We have been having a jewish problem and a satanic/pagan struggle against them for thousands of years. Culturally as well as in any other area. It's not like suddenly music got worse after [insert random subjective date coming from personal imagination]. Over a thousand years ago the only music allowed was garbage xtian church singing so...
 
Larissa666 said:
Sinistra said:
People like what they listened in their youth and usually have a hard time relating to newer stuff it's well known.

Also "Sturgeon's Law" : https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SturgeonsLaw

While it is very well known phenomenon that people are more uncomfortable with change and new things as they grow older, there is also a fact that something very different happened to the music, and this has been going on for several decades already. Even today's teens increasingly complain of the crap it is on the radio every day.

And, everything is very well explained in this video, which analyzes the issue with todays music to the core: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oVME_l4IwII&t=580s
You know when you go to supermarkets or some other shops and they always have this horrible music ? Well I have been suffering from this kind of audio harassment all my life (because I always hated mainstream music). It's not like after random date it got worse, for me it was always audio torture :/
I suppose that helps them make sales somehow because for me I would either get out of the shop if I can afford it or rush and just buy the bare minimum I needed if I had to shop there..
Fortunately it has never been easier to freely listen to good stuff from on's own home.
 
They use music for it's potential as a psychological manipulator. Music is something that naturally bypasses your logical and rational thoughts (what you might call your waking consciousness) and appeals to our creative faculties (similarly you might call this your subconscious). This can't be said for all music, especially if you dislike or like it strongly, but the majority of people will listen to what everyone else is listening to - and it will usually recite destructive or disarming messages.

I was at a pharmacy a few weeks ago. While waiting in a queue, the in-store radio was discharging a refrain: "You can do what you want with my body!" Repeating ad nauseum. As most of us here probably know, the "subconscious" mind learns, but it cannot tell fantasy from reality, or distinguish self-defeating messages when it is exposed to one. So I guess "You can do what you like with my body!" is a belief which some listeners will now have and without them even knowing it - it's just like church!

Oh. I looked it up. Lady Gaga. Who else.
 
Norse 88 said:
They use music for it's potential as a psychological manipulator. Music is something that naturally bypasses your logical and rational thoughts (what you might call your waking consciousness) and appeals to our creative faculties (similarly you might call this your subconscious). This can't be said for all music, especially if you dislike or like it strongly, but the majority of people will listen to what everyone else is listening to - and it will usually recite destructive or disarming messages.

I was at a pharmacy a few weeks ago. While waiting in a queue, the in-store radio was discharging a refrain: "You can do what you want with my body!" Repeating ad nauseum. As most of us here probably know, the "subconscious" mind learns, but it cannot tell fantasy from reality, or distinguish self-defeating messages when it is exposed to one. So I guess "You can do what you like with my body!" is a belief which some listeners will now have and without them even knowing it - it's just like church!

Oh. I looked it up. Lady Gaga. Who else.

Yeah, it's truly sickening :( I've actually been wearing sunglasses and noise canceling ear buds for months now, I just put them on when I go into public and put on whatever I like. And if someone wants to talk, I pull a ear bud out just enough to hear them. ;)

I think the Final RTR has helped greatly in freeing me though, because I've had MUCH better self control since starting it on a regular schedule.

Also with music they play everywhere, a good bit of it has subliminal messages. You can tell who listens to it most, because they walk around the shops, and real life like zombies. Aimlessly wandering, and with nearly dead eyes.
 
I've been tracking sources and trying to find the answer to this question for the past thirty six years. After thousands of hours of pasting news clippings together and looking out my window in paranoia, I finally came to the spontaneous realization that it was the Jews all along. It actually seems kind of obvious to me now.
 
I actually did some research into this since I last posted and listened to the radio looked some songs up a little.

If you like rap look at underground music more or conscious rap. I am sure some of it pushes communism but not all of it can be bad.
With that said. Lil peep based his music style on the rock in the 2000s and appears to be trying to bring back emo. Plus there are a few emotional and deep songs that actually 5h in his style (not him) coming out that were deep and thought out. I was surprised to hear that actually on the radio when I was driving somewhere. True not as good as the underground music or some of the music back then but many of these people are white apparently. Lil peep and Uzi (a lot of people said Uzi respects different thinking and maybe a Satanist of some kind and either at one point did a piece with marilyn Manson or based something on him but I dont know I do sense hes a rebel somehow though from the vibe against mainstream pushed music)

I personally see that as a trend in mainstream music. Like it or hate it it just is. It could easily allow rock to go back to the way it was and maybe even be more thought out. I kind of like the above style as it's a huge improvement in what was before btw this stuff is really recent it may be because of the rtrs.
 
Now above I talked about rap. If you want some good new rock music go to a band on a music app (I have done this quite a lot and found some good stuff) and click radio on a song you like or artist. You will find a few good things. Now surprisingly a few of the more recent songs on the radio sound more like what I grew up with.

You may have given up on it awhile ago but keep looking even some of the bands you used to like have changed somewhat but listen they still may have meaning. Just look around maybe somehow that kind of thing and better will come back I kind of see that trend think the final rtr and do it every day too have hope.
 
This peep guy just makes depressing songs about how he feels he is a loser with no purpose to life so he does drugs and works to ruin his own life in a self fulling prophecy of failure.

Why people listen to that is probably because they feel the same way about themselves. This kind of music is toxic to a person's psyche. Its about feeding a cycle of depression.
 
Ok I can see how that is toxic but what else is there to even listen to that's new that has some depth or emotion I only found them trying to look up stuff about controversial or anti religious music trying to find new stuff a couple of months ago.
With me
I want something that has a good message makes people think and is deep or intelligent. I may have listened to some of the dumb songs sometimes mainly when others were around and only because of that but never liked them very much compared with emotional or deep songs when I play music on my own honestly i always listen to deep stuff or stuff that has a rebel message/vibe or both and intellectual music music that you have to really think about stuff like that is the kind of vibe in music i sought out and end up still liking and looking for. I honestly thought anything emotional was an improvement over a lot of the crap that is so void and empty. Honestly I miss the type of stuff that came out when Uranus was in Pisces and Neptune was in Aquarius. It's hard to find that vibe anymore and I've looked all over. Some new things sound a little like that but it's not as good. I really want music with depth and meaning and makes people think.

I haven't found any recent albums I like the whole album of songs or new artists etc

Can anyone really give me suggestions on the type of music I like

Rap and hard/alternative rock or a mixture of the two.


That right there is more the type of music I'd like https://youtu.be/fvDQy53eldY and https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xSmV449phG8 so far as rock https://youtu.be/CFOtX3VkG88
And
https://youtu.be/X6_gseqbOhY
That's all an example of what I'm looking for especially straight up anti religious stuff Satanic or not.
Hail Satan

I think though that with our rtrs things will get better in music very soon.
 
HP Mageson666 said:
This peep guy just makes depressing songs about how he feels he is a loser with no purpose to life so he does drugs and works to ruin his own life in a self fulling prophecy of failure.

Why people listen to that is probably because they feel the same way about themselves. This kind of music is toxic to a person's psyche. Its about feeding a cycle of depression.

HAHAHA... Thanks so much. Saying what I was too afraid to :lol:
 
Do you think all the issues you have dealt with and the music you listen too might have a relationship.... Peep is basically Christianity....

darkmonkey666 said:
Ok I can see how that is toxic but what else is there to even listen to that's new that has some depth or emotion I only found them trying to look up stuff about controversial or anti religious music trying to find new stuff a couple of months ago.
With me
I want something that has a good message makes people think and is deep or intelligent. I may have listened to some of the dumb songs sometimes mainly when others were around and only because of that but never liked them very much compared with emotional or deep songs when I play music on my own honestly i always listen to deep stuff or stuff that has a rebel message/vibe or both and intellectual music music that you have to really think about stuff like that is the kind of vibe in music i sought out and end up still liking and looking for. I honestly thought anything emotional was an improvement over a lot of the crap that is so void and empty. Honestly I miss the type of stuff that came out when Uranus was in Pisces and Neptune was in Aquarius. It's hard to find that vibe anymore and I've looked all over. Some new things sound a little like that but it's not as good. I really want music with depth and meaning and makes people think.

I haven't found any recent albums I like the whole album of songs or new artists etc

Can anyone really give me suggestions on the type of music I like

Rap and hard/alternative rock or a mixture of the two.


That right there is more the type of music I'd like https://youtu.be/fvDQy53eldY and https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xSmV449phG8 so far as rock https://youtu.be/CFOtX3VkG88
And
https://youtu.be/X6_gseqbOhY
That's all an example of what I'm looking for especially straight up anti religious stuff Satanic or not.
Hail Satan

I think though that with our rtrs things will get better in music very soon.
 
Research has shown all music sucked till Billy Idol and all music sucked after Billy Idol because it was not Billy Idol which the research shows basically all music that is not Billy Idol is not that good. This is some NSA level of research here as well.
 
Music has been sucking for awhile I notice in the 80's New Wave kind of gave a breath of life from the standard rock, pop style of music. Then it was morphed into some Techno then into Hip Hop then into whatever..... Rock music was also morphed into Korn the Nuuu metal stuff which is Hip Hop mixed with rock to make it more appealing to the music industries market place demographic's at the time. This started with Arrow Smith joining up with Public Enemy for this reason back in the eighties. And it came back around.

Every rock band and hard rock band all sound the same like with Punk rock for the same reason they are all copying each other and you can only do so much with the same power cords, basic drum beat . Its very limited. But its very popular because its a correct basic form of music.

That is why New Wave was so much better it created a new sound and different style of music. Probably the best new music around is the New Wave return style music.


However for over all really good music you have to go back all the way to medieval, renaissance style music. Classical music is pleasant but I don't care for it outside of Wagner. That is why classical music does not really sell despite being in music stores and such. But people will line up around the block for Folk Music.
 
HP Mageson666 said:
Do you think all the issues you have dealt with and the music you listen too might have a relationship.... Peep is basically Christianity....

darkmonkey666 said:
Ok I can see how that is toxic but what else is there to even listen to that's new that has some depth or emotion I only found them trying to look up stuff about controversial or anti religious music trying to find new stuff a couple of months ago.
With me
I want something that has a good message makes people think and is deep or intelligent. I may have listened to some of the dumb songs sometimes mainly when others were around and only because of that but never liked them very much compared with emotional or deep songs when I play music on my own honestly i always listen to deep stuff or stuff that has a rebel message/vibe or both and intellectual music music that you have to really think about stuff like that is the kind of vibe in music i sought out and end up still liking and looking for. I honestly thought anything emotional was an improvement over a lot of the crap that is so void and empty. Honestly I miss the type of stuff that came out when Uranus was in Pisces and Neptune was in Aquarius. It's hard to find that vibe anymore and I've looked all over. Some new things sound a little like that but it's not as good. I really want music with depth and meaning and makes people think.

I haven't found any recent albums I like the whole album of songs or new artists etc

Can anyone really give me suggestions on the type of music I like

Rap and hard/alternative rock or a mixture of the two.


That right there is more the type of music I'd like https://youtu.be/fvDQy53eldY and https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xSmV449phG8 so far as rock https://youtu.be/CFOtX3VkG88
And
https://youtu.be/X6_gseqbOhY
That's all an example of what I'm looking for especially straight up anti religious stuff Satanic or not.
Hail Satan

I think though that with our rtrs things will get better in music very soon.

Maybe it is. Long before I knew about Satanism I wanted to get away from xtianity and it's people. That was my one wish since I was basically 6 and yes at that time I felt the energy and even called the whole this shit. My parents and family is super hardcore xtian. I guess I want in some way to hurt them like they hurt me inside i have tried cursing them a lot but realize I must meditate and grow more powerful. At the very least I hope they somehow see the lower astral hell like place. and their beliefs led to me rebelling in ways that harmed me long before I came here. What they taught basically messed me up so I related to the emo type music. I am free from it a lot more now doing workings which I still am doing daily and feel much better but still like the music.
Oh well I'll curse them or leave them someday when I can totally break free and make them hurt even though they are super nice to me I dont care they stole half my life and my only ever wish was to get away from them and xtianity. I at the time would have gladly traded places even with someone in poverty or something anything if I could get away from xtianity and I believe I may have even tried to sell my soul in this way but I cant remember
 
Then again I am nice to most people i meet in offline life and try to help people a lot I think it's the water signs in my chart sun pluto conjunct 8th house scorpio cancer moon pisces in first house etc. Most everyone I met after them was way more accepting of my personality and ideas than my xtian family and they were the only ones I knew who took it to such extremes. I want nothing to do with it anymore at all. I am doing several workings to break free.

If anyone is even the least bit psychic they know my personality somewhat and do try to understand me in my experience.

So most of the world is beautiful at least somewhat in my opinion. Also no one i ever met other than them has had as much negative energy. Even people that did me wrong at least understood me to an extent more than them.
 
Remember music is an affirmation it works like a mantra in that sense. The more you listen to them basically chanting the words and their meaning it starts to go into the mind and programs it. This is why you find people who find some band music and all of a sudden they start dressing different and acting different they become totally absorbed fanatic's of all things around a group of people playing music in a band..... That is because they have become part of a program.

When people become conscious they start to find that after a while the music they listen to starts to happen on some level in their life. Because its creating karma.
 
HP Mageson666 said:
Remember music is an affirmation it works like a mantra in that sense. The more you listen to them basically chanting the words and their meaning it starts to go into the mind and programs it. This is why you find people who find some band music and all of a sudden they start dressing different and acting different they become totally absorbed fanatic's of all things around a group of people playing music in a band..... That is because they have become part of a program.

When people become conscious they start to find that after a while the music they listen to starts to happen on some level in their life. Because its creating karma.

I didnt even know that about music but for me more I used music as a reflection of how I feel and felt. Rather than changing cause of the music well maybe the music caused all this growing up but it did feel good to get out I cant tell many how I feel other than ranting about it over and over at my parents in indirect ways not even saying what I want but that's the kind of feelings I had growing up that is why I was so touchy before when you knew me and on that group I ran (you were on it too earth project or whatever cant even remember the name) anyways recently I've done meditations to free myself of xtianity more and my parents influence. Maybe Mageson you have some advice for me.

I am not so much water energy anymore but I was growing up. I was too impressionable and it was hard to break free yet I was constantly wanting to.
 
HP Mageson666 said:
Music has been sucking for awhile I notice in the 80's New Wave kind of gave a breath of life from the standard rock, pop style of music. Then it was morphed into some Techno then into Hip Hop then into whatever..... Rock music was also morphed into Korn the Nuuu metal stuff which is Hip Hop mixed with rock to make it more appealing to the music industries market place demographic's at the time. This started with Arrow Smith joining up with Public Enemy for this reason back in the eighties. And it came back around.

Every rock band and hard rock band all sound the same like with Punk rock for the same reason they are all copying each other and you can only do so much with the same power cords, basic drum beat . Its very limited. But its very popular because its a correct basic form of music.

That is why New Wave was so much better it created a new sound and different style of music. Probably the best new music around is the New Wave return style music.


However for over all really good music you have to go back all the way to medieval, renaissance style music. Classical music is pleasant but I don't care for it outside of Wagner. That is why classical music does not really sell despite being in music stores and such. But people will line up around the block for Folk Music.

I agree Mageson, good observation and I also always noticed you have a good taste in music. That makes me think I recently found a band called Ministry which is a band that sucks now but they have some old synth-pop songs that are still really good. There's always good music out underground, and I think part of the reason why this is happening is that people just want to go with the flow and fit in so in general people are reluctant to comment on the declining quality of the arts.
 
HP Mageson666 said:
However for over all really good music you have to go back all the way to medieval, renaissance style music. Classical music is pleasant but I don't care for it outside of Wagner. That is why classical music does not really sell despite being in music stores and such. But people will line up around the block for Folk Music.

Ever listen to a band called Blackmore's Night? Richie Blackmore from Deep Purple and his wife Candace Night, they make "renaissance rock" music, a mix of rock, medieval, folk. Probably not what you meant here but thought I would link it anyway. This song might not be the best representation but it's one of their most popular. They play at a lot of renaissance fairs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLxCGmyRzwk&list=PLg_9AuynDkSdnuSUo3R7DvG9dASb_r2Zd
 
darkmonkey666 said:
Then again I am nice to most people i meet in offline life and try to help people a lot I think it's the water signs in my chart sun pluto conjunct 8th house scorpio cancer moon pisces in first house etc. Most everyone I met after them was way more accepting of my personality and ideas than my xtian family and they were the only ones I knew who took it to such extremes. I want nothing to do with it anymore at all. I am doing several workings to break free.

If anyone is even the least bit psychic they know my personality somewhat and do try to understand me in my experience.

So most of the world is beautiful at least somewhat in my opinion. Also no one i ever met other than them has had as much negative energy. Even people that did me wrong at least understood me to an extent more than them.
Water majority people are the most likely to be preyed upon and victimised by psychic vampires and other negative goyim because of the inherent qualities of water. Satanic souls in general are also more likely to get victimised like that because the enemy will use our childhood to trap us and abuse us while under reincarnation amnesia.
 
I have Ministry's first album which was good it was "Dark Wave" style, but yes later on they turned into this NIN, Rob Zombie style band that I don't care for. I found a lot of Gothic style music has keep its base in that era.

Godmode said:
HP Mageson666 said:
Music has been sucking for awhile I notice in the 80's New Wave kind of gave a breath of life from the standard rock, pop style of music. Then it was morphed into some Techno then into Hip Hop then into whatever..... Rock music was also morphed into Korn the Nuuu metal stuff which is Hip Hop mixed with rock to make it more appealing to the music industries market place demographic's at the time. This started with Arrow Smith joining up with Public Enemy for this reason back in the eighties. And it came back around.

Every rock band and hard rock band all sound the same like with Punk rock for the same reason they are all copying each other and you can only do so much with the same power cords, basic drum beat . Its very limited. But its very popular because its a correct basic form of music.

That is why New Wave was so much better it created a new sound and different style of music. Probably the best new music around is the New Wave return style music.


However for over all really good music you have to go back all the way to medieval, renaissance style music. Classical music is pleasant but I don't care for it outside of Wagner. That is why classical music does not really sell despite being in music stores and such. But people will line up around the block for Folk Music.

I agree Mageson, good observation and I also always noticed you have a good taste in music. That makes me think I recently found a band called Ministry which is a band that sucks now but they have some old synth-pop songs that are still really good. There's always good music out underground, and I think part of the reason why this is happening is that people just want to go with the flow and fit in so in general people are reluctant to comment on the declining quality of the arts.
 
Yes they are a decent band I remember their music was used in the movie they made about the Volsung Saga. Which could have been done a lot better.

Lydia said:
HP Mageson666 said:
However for over all really good music you have to go back all the way to medieval, renaissance style music. Classical music is pleasant but I don't care for it outside of Wagner. That is why classical music does not really sell despite being in music stores and such. But people will line up around the block for Folk Music.

Ever listen to a band called Blackmore's Night? Richie Blackmore from Deep Purple and his wife Candace Night, they make "renaissance rock" music, a mix of rock, medieval, folk. Probably not what you meant here but thought I would link it anyway. This song might not be the best representation but it's one of their most popular. They play at a lot of renaissance fairs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLxCGmyRzwk&list=PLg_9AuynDkSdnuSUo3R7DvG9dASb_r2Zd
 
"Dark wave", yeah. Not too dark though, I've actually only heard their first album all the way through and it's like synth-pop with the edge of some 80s power ballads. The Antifa punk song they did was so pathetic, if you haven't seen it I highly recommend watching it for a laugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTkywyKV-9U

I like Skinny Puppy now too even though I initially dismissed them as some sort of grunge/emo thing. I also like the band Tame Impala, that's a good example of a modern band that's not too bad. "The Less I Know The Better" got really popular out of the blue on social media and I was happy to actually enjoy something so popular for once in a while.
 
That was strange it seems like they are fighting to be the new Rage Against The Machine. Not a surprise that a group that does seem punk influenced back to the day would come out as Marxist. Bad Religion was probably one of the biggest promoters of Marxist ideology I remember in the Punk world.

The comments section was lolz to the extreme.
 
Hahaha, I know right, they really didn't please anyone with this song it's literally so comically bad.
When it comes to Bad Religion I was never much into alt-rock or punk bands because I find they lack emotional depth or something, but I never knew Bad Religion were like that. I can believe it. I did always like Smashing Pumpkins though, I find they have something wholesome about them that isn't just all about being edgy and sad.

I wanted to like Black Flag and some of those working class kind of bands but hardcore punk is a little too anxious sounding for me now. I actually also like a handful of NS rock and NS metal bands that aren't polluted with crap. I find something comforting about metal because it has a warm friendly quality to it that's also sometimes silly so it feels wholesome rather than sounding like being stabbed in a an alleyway like hardcore punk.
Some people might say my taste in music involves a lot of novelty but I like novelty in music because it can bring together a lot of people from all different backgrounds. Its still not really an excuse to listen to Schoenberg though.
 
Back in the Punk days two trends came from it, the popular Marxist style leftism and NS punk rock. Guys like Ian got that going with Skrewdriver and Blood and Honor. A friend of mine back in the day was a hardcore punk who had his own Punk band and was an Anarchist, being around that scene was very educational most Anarchist types have drug and alcohol issues and their reason for political beliefs extends to nothing more then "Your not the boss of me" attitude. In the end they all end just sinking into Marxism as Marxism was created to absorb all Liberal [which is what Anarchism is] ideology into itself to create a new Golem the Jews could keep their jewtrix going with. Marxism is the post modern Christianity. Its not surprising that Russel Brand is a Marxist he fits the personality and life style of the person in that life style already just without the celebrity. A life of chaotic outbursts, drugs, more drugs, alcoholism, rage issues, low functionality and mentality ill behaviours.


He is like the western version of this strange eastern European who did The Perverts Guide To Ideology. A strange, dysfunctional, hyper weirdo who acts like he is always on coke or some other assortment of drugs and couldn't take a bath in a thousand years. And acts like a pointlessly vuglar, spaz who just hates normal society because he can't function within it on any meaningful level. Marxism is like Mgtow from almost two centuries ago. Marxism is the ideological version of Bronyism.
 
A lot of stuff that got associated with National Socialism, Skinheads, chaotic stupidity, drinking and dumb stuff is just the sub cultural behaviours of the whole Punk scene that it came from. The dumbest thing is the idea you have join a rockin' roll, sub culture left over from the Punk era to be a National Socialist...….
 
The lead singer of Ministry is also the type that would support Anti-Fa, the guy was a crack and heroin addict for most of his life. Most of his music in other projects is trashy troll music away to take a swipe at normal society for not accepting drug people who look like Side Show Bob if he lived in a dumpster. I watched the Anti-Fa at the Texas protest they did the guy took the camera down the line every single one of them was stoned on some heavy drugs no wonder they hate the Police because they are probably stoned on the kind of drugs the Police arrest people for having.


There war on society is motivated by the surly attitude and externalized rage issues that are typical of any low functioning drug addict and not by any deeper spiritual realization or philosophical knowledge. Everything is bad daddy that got drunk and beat them up when they were kids.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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