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For those who are n00bs to English - where does permission come from?

We all have "rights" - the right to do this; the right to do that; the right to be this; the right to be that; the right to... but where do we get these "permissions" from? Natural Law, as insentient as She is in the most basic form, gave us "permission" to exist - or Natural Law, as insentient as She is in the most basic form, just went on Her merry Way, and we are no more or no less a non-intended by-product of Her Natural existence.

The jew rapes you left, right, and centre, and it gives you "permission" to do; have; say; be; etc. The jew is not Our master. LORD Satan is - or might be.

"How can you say, 'Might be'?!"

Satan says He wishes (more specifically, allows) people to do as they please. Now - we are direct descendants of Satan; we are His, whether we like that fact or not; however, He decided that we can still do our own thing or things, as we please. We don't have to be with Him; we shouldn't be against Him, of course - that would be beyond stupid, but we can choose to worship Him as a deity if we wish, or we can little-acknowledge Him if we so desire. Perhaps we could be against Satan but not so that we interfer with His will; plans; People; etc. i.e. if we were 'over there, out of the way' not causing any negative thing to happen against Satan; His will; plans; People; etc. There are not really any "rules" or "obligations" for us as Spiritual Satanists...or there are not really any "rules" or "obligations" for us as just People (in the future, I would estimate that we wouldn't call ourselves Spiritual Satanists, due to not having to distinguish ourselves from 'those without').

There are no obligations for us, other than to not have 100% spiritual death, of course; that means we are obligated to empower and advance. On the other hand, if we muh-feelz that we should want to reduce and atrophy into nothingness, then... whatever. Why not.

So we are Satan's biological Children, and He gave us permission to go our own way/s - He is more than capable of enslaving us into spiritual shackles of forced and false worship and reverence, but He decided not to. Does that mean that we have permission to be free ( ?!), or does it mean we don't have permission to be free but our Eldest Father, relative, Race member so desires - rather than enforces a rule or law - for us to be free? Perhaps it means we don't have permission, and we don't not have permission; that we should just be, to be, and to be free and to be ourselves, as individuals, with an identity of our own. Perhaps Satan said He allows us to follow the dictates of Our own Nature so that we can understand His words, in this jew-raped World, where we "must" seek permission to be free from bondage and slavery; maybe He was just saying it in our current level of understanding and ability. Does "allow us" mean that we need LORD Satan's permission, or does it mean that Satan is not restricting us? I suppose a subtitle of this thread could be, What do 'permission' and 'allow' mean?.

This wasn't intended as a topic regarding the Al Jilwah - the Black Book of Satan, but I did make a big point out of a part of it, so you may use that in your arguments or use anything else.

On a perhaps opposing tone - we need to have permission - we can't just go into a job and start working there, for example. The jew, though, has expanded this so much that we are nearly-literally begging for work; the jew knows how to make the perfect slave. (I'm just using work as an example, because it is big and important.)

In our current low level and jew-shit-state, do we need to seek, and then have, permission to do X, Y, and Z? Soon, when we are Gods and Goddesses Ourselves, we'll be more than powerful and capable of doing things. Some have ego trips when they advance, and knowing that any individual could be King or Queen (keep quite, AR666 ) they get all trippified and start egotisting their lust for power and magnitude all over, making a mess. Knowing this, I still realise I could be a Monarch, in all literality and reality, and yes it does appeal to me very much, but knowing that I can become a God one day - that is better. Of course, you can be a God and a Monarch. For those so inclined into (perhaps) selfish glory - they could advance further and go to an uninhabited solar system and appoint themselves Emperor/Empress of [name of the solar system, presumably after themselves] and be Monarch in Absolute, or Constitutional Monarch, or Republic Monarch in Perpetuity They, as a God/Goddess and soon-to-be King/Queen/Emperor/Empress gave themselves permission to do that, having employed Maritime tradition of being the first to such a solar system and colonising it themselves.

"Perhaps Satan said He allows us to follow the dictates of Our own Nature so that we can understand His words, in this jew-raped World, where we "must" seek permission to be free from bondage and slavery; maybe He was just saying it in our current level of understanding and ability."

Yes I think at times there is a larger context to keep in mind if we are to understand what was said in the same way as whoever said a thing. And this here shows that.

"In our current low level and jew-shit-state, do we need to seek, and then have, permission to do X, Y, and Z? Soon, when we are Gods and Goddesses Ourselves, we'll be more than powerful and capable of doing things. Some have ego trips when they advance..."

Look.....I just.....don't think anyone here was raised in a German culture. Here it's like everyone has Ron Paul, Hillary Clinton, and a safe space attendant sitting on their shoulder giving them council.

 This does not fly in German culture in my experience. I could be wrong though. In families of old German stock it seems to not be this way just as a culture and I kind of prefer it. Modern people actually in the country of Germany might act totally different for all I know. But I speak to those who still are tied in culture, temperament, and maybe spiritually to the classical essence of the people.

We do not feel obligated to validate every little thing about a person or put up with every off putting thing. We are not here to cheerlead or sugarcoat where it is not necessary. Some call it "bluntness". However the honorable, virtuous, and good things I believe we would be the first to do this for.

Some things are better or worse, good and bad, wise and stupid, encouraged and discouraged. I don't think we are blind to the grey areas, and I think it's just a grounded view, where reality is spoken plainly and put on the table without shame or apology. Maybe you can try to shame reality itself for being the way it is but you won't shame me for it.

I think German people care deeply about each other and actually have a lot of empathy which drives much of the attitude. Somehow a distorted meme has been created. We wish people to be their best and we care deeply when they don't live up to to this. It actually kind of pains us to see people or the world generally failing and not achieving high things.

We want the best and that why we have high standards. It's pretty evident this is the case. Germans make some of the finest goods. I know one company that buys nothing but German machinery. They care about everything. Nothing is insignificant.

Japan actually is similar to German culture. And it's no wonder the Nazis were their allies. Here they have been revered and it's been stated they are one country who has kept their shit together better than most in the world.

I don't see anyone painting the Japanese as a bunch of Tyrant overlords. Everyone respects them. And in fact Japanese consultants come to the west and make a killing, teaching their culture basically, to fix the problems in the West. Nobody gives them flak because they don't put up with bullshit.

 But if a white of German descent continues to live his culture suddenly it's somehow totally different from the Japanese. He is a bad guy and we better pull some Hitler, WWII, bad guys, dictator memes. He just wants to enslave people or rule over them for the fun of it. It's not the enemy making a projection of themselves onto the situation. Germans never believed in freedom.

Maybe the jews and christianity and things like that have attempted and at times succeeded in taking some of these aspects and amplifying them to create something negative. To make a fault. Turn a strength into a weakness. But I believe the nugget at the center of the German attitude is valid. It has good bones despite some things that may need corrected.

I would rather our future be built on restored German attitude than whatever the prevailing attitude is today. Look where each one got the world. This German culture is actually at its root Satanic and Pagan way in the past.

Also if any of this has to do with the tattoo debate let me say this.

 I don't agree with it and I don't think it's ideal. But I also don't agree with a lot of things. And we are coming off of basically the worst period in human history ever. Everyone including myself has gone astray and we could probably point fingers all day long at each other. Nobody is a saint so to speak. And what matters is our evolution to higher levels and what we learn and apply along the way.

In the 30's probably they could go after tattooed people so hard because only a small number had them. It was safe to assume most or all of them were jews or corrupted people and a threat to our ideals. Now days it has been marketed and sold and pushed with occult like nobody would have ever imagined on such a wide scale. It's just spread all over. So the situation is different.

I believe in leniency in matters like these. I'm not thinking it's a good idea to glorify and idolize it as the media does now days.

But to me it is more telling to see if someone starts low and achieves the highest things than someone who was always acceptable and in the middle ground. Blah and unachieving. The distance traversed in their path was not as much as the underdog who went to the top.

I believe this was a big swipe at humanity and people pay enough. It's the people knowingly pushing what is bad that must pay, not their victims. They should be allowed to just live life. And maybe their children will be the most amazing generation as they learn from those of us alive now.

I could be wrong. But it's what I believe.

You would make a good monarch, or to say better a leader. So I think you should strive to make your mark as a leader in whatever way you have the inclination and capability of doing. We don't have enough good leaders in this world.

HeilOdin666 wrote:You would make a good monarch, or to say better a leader. So I think you should strive to make your mark as a leader in whatever way you have the inclination and capability of doing. We don't have enough good leaders in this world.

Interesting. Other than in (((christianity))), which can be ignored, no-one has ever said anything like that to me before. I won't reveal this, of course, but I have to take my Astrology into account with what you just said - and all you see is my online-self here.

My Subjects would have to understand that I am not being mean to upset them harshly! (Re: my emotional-persons post.) Of course, as Monarch, things would not be 100% the same. In more reality, some sort of leader person, hey? Interesting.

I'd consider the authority given to me by my Subjects just and well-deserved, which is where, in my opinion, permission would come from (in this case) - they'd wish me to lead/rule over them.

Can a 'lower' person give a 'higher' person permission? I suppose from this question, it might lead into 'Does Might Make Right?' from the other forum.

"Interesting. Other than in (((christianity))), which can be ignored, no-one has ever said anything like that to me before. I won't reveal this, of course, but I have to take my Astrology into account with what you just said - and all you see is my online-self here."

I'm not sure what you mean here. What does Christianity have to do with any of this? You sound upset that I think you have skills beyond "book club leader".

I believe there is both permission to rule and self created authority. For example in a plane crash. You have a survival expert on board and you all are stuck in the wilderness.

He would likely be the leader because he put in the work to make himself capable of rule in this situation. He is a better fit than anyone. So it was self created in a way.

Yet people don't have to follow him. They give permission in a sense. And if he turns out to be bad for whatever reason, they can abandon him and go their own way.

So there is not a black and white answer to whether a lower person gives permission to a higher person to rule. For various reasons, sometimes even just because of 'might', they end up ruling. Sometimes luck, ability, wisdom or other reasons. But other times the low level people can also exert considerable authority. Donald Trump came into power this way despite the jews pulling for other people.

The ideal is a good relationship between both the ruled and the rulers.

HeilOdin666 wrote:"Interesting. Other than in (((christianity))), which can be ignored, no-one has ever said anything like that to me before. I won't reveal this, of course, but I have to take my Astrology into account with what you just said - and all you see is my online-self here."

I'm not sure what you mean here. What does Christianity have to do with any of this? You sound upset that I think you have skills beyond "book club leader".

No. What I meant is no-one said that to me before, except when I was a christian, which can be ignored because they are air-heads and say anything because "god can do it". It can also be ignored because very little, if anything, ever happens.

I believe there is both permission to rule and self created authority. For example in a plane crash. You have a survival expert on board and you all are stuck in the wilderness.

He would likely be the leader because he put in the work to make himself capable of rule in this situation. He is a better fit than anyone. So it was self created in a way.

Yet people don't have to follow him. They give permission in a sense. And if he turns out to be bad for whatever reason, they can abandon him and go their own way.

So there is not a black and white answer to whether a lower person gives permission to a higher person to rule. For various reasons, sometimes even just because of 'might', they end up ruling. Sometimes luck, ability, wisdom or other reasons. But other times the low level people can also exert considerable authority. Donald Trump came into power this way despite the jews pulling for other people.

The ideal is a good relationship between both the ruled and the rulers.

That's a helpful way to put it. Thanks.