Pammy
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Bunu aslında baştan Türkçe yazarım diye düşünüyordum ama bir türlü bilgisayarın başına oturamadım. Sanırım Türkçe versiyonunu cevap olarak atacağım. Türkçe forumumuzda midemi bulandıracak kadar sık Yahudi görünüyor da şu sıralar. Havası değişsin istiyorum.
Pammy said:
Hello!
I'm planning to touch on a few subjects here without getting too deep. Inspired by Maharlikan666.
Tengrisim, Tengricilik, Gök Tengricilik, Kök Tengricilik, or Gök Tanrıcılık is the oldest religion of Turks and Mongols. Tengri is the highest being in the Turkish pantheon. It's not certain if it's an individual or like, energy or ether. Gök means sky. Kök means root. Due to similar pronunciation, we are not sure which one is true. I'll mention this again while talking about the tree of life on the drum of kam, baksı, ozan, shaman (şaman), or sage. I'll refer to them as sage or shaman for English speakers to relate.
Topics that will be mentioned are:
i) The Sage's Seven Notched Tree of Life
ii) General Information About The Pantheon and Muslims' Lie About Tengrism
iii) Most Well Known Talisman of Turks: Nazar Boncuğu
iv) The Mistery of Runic Göktürk Alphabet
v) How Roman Empire and a nation from far east can have the same legend long before any contact?
Plus other things I may mention here and there. It will take more than one post. Let' get started.
i) The Sage's Seven Notched Tree of Life
Who is the sage(kam, baksı)? The sage is a wise person, a magician, a ''singer'' who organizes ceremonies and celebrations (deaths, weddings, hunts) and a healer. Many years ago in a literature class, I remember that the lecturer said the sage was singing to heal the sick person back then. It didn't make sense. Now it makes. They were singing, they were vibrating and chanting mantras and runes to heal.
A Shaman's Outfit, National History Museum in Mongolia, the picture is taken from this journal and referenced to an essay from Bilge Seyidoğlu
Here we see the drum of the sage. However it's not the drawing that I want to talk about though the structure that pierces through clouds, the creature with hornfoot and horns (deer, goat?), and the other strange creature among the clouds (some kind of alien?) on the drum look interesting.
The drums are I want to talk about the ones with the tree of life:
Well, I don't know why they call it the tree of life. It looks like a human to me. This picture is from the same essay as the above one.
This image is taken from International Journal of Cultural and Social Studies (IntJCSS)
December 2015, referenced to dr. Ağaç and dr. Sakarya
I put those before the next one but we'll talk about them later. This way, it'll be easier to understand.
Firstly, look at that:
source: Nature Depictions in Turkish Mythology Through Sagas
Under the picture, it says the parts of tree represent the lower realm (hell, bad dragon, bad snake), our realm (middle part, and the highest realm (sky, heaven, divine bird). Well, I don't think this is the case. I think the divine bird is Lilith's owl and snake belongs to Satan.
You remember the tree depictions on drums look like humans right? If you look at them again, you'll see they are also divided into three. The lower part must be representing lower chakras. The upper part is for upper chakras. The middle, the body of the tree, is the middle chakra. As if it's not interesting enough, this religion is called Gök/Kök (sky/root) Tengrism (godhead).
According to the teachings of Tengrism, the tree of life has 7, 9, or 12 (in Altay Turks) notches. It's associated with the numbers 7, 8, and 12 (in Siberian Turks). Yakuts (a branch of Turkish people) believed that if the shaman can climb all seven notches, they could drink a divine, gold-colored, foamy drink that heals and gives youth.
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
I'm not the most knowledgeable about mythologies but even I know there are more than one mythology that associates a divine drink and immortality.
In order to drink from the divine drink, shamans have to ''fly''. Please remember that this is a translation of oral tradition that thousands of years old. Going to heaven was ''flying'' in the old Turkish. When shaman flies or gets high, and I don't mean drugs here, they were in a trance. In a trance, the shaman could go to the higher realm and speak to the gods.
Pic from The Journal of Social Sciences Institute
Sky, heaven, higher realms, the place gods reside, and the place the shaman goes to meet with gods is the space as you can see here and in the others. But it's also something else, the shaman goes there through upper chakras.
Unfortunately, I'm not sure about the source of this one. These ones are found on gravestones, as far as I can read.
Here, we see a shaman with his drum. There is a tree on the drum. There are people, holding hands. You can see people holding hands in other ones too. People who hold hands are usually interpreted as ''all Turkish branches should stick together'' and a few more things but I'm not sure about that. It may be it, or something totally different. The necklace should be a ''nazar boncuğu''. I don't know what people with weird heads mean. I feel like I know what it means, but I can't remember.
I found this one on many websites but I couldn't find somewhere that says where it's from. Do you see the man on the right? It has the same symbolism as in Tarot. One foot on the water and one foot on the earth. The balance between spirituality and physical. I'll let you decipher the rest.
After the invasion of Islam, tree of life designs from late history:
I hope that I'm not the only one who sees a peacock there. Btw, do you know what the double-headed eagle symbolizes?
A goddess who is a protector to children on the tree of life:
Tree of life in Turkish nations today:
The flag of Chuvashiya, the emblem of the Ministry of Culture and Tourism of Turkey, a penny from Turkey
Tree of life from other cultures:
Something unrelated that I ran into and I want to share it:
A man dressed up as Ayaz Ata (a god) holds an 8 pointed star and they are celebrating the winter solstice.
Okay that's all I want to say about the tree of life in Turkish culture. I'll be back and with ii) General Information About The Turkic Pantheon and Muslims' Lie About Tengrism in the replies.
