Advancing The Cause: Joy Of Satan Donation Tiers [Update 1: Tiers Information Sent To Donors]

[SATchives]

in the past I feel like when I helped I haven't done enough. I promise I will help more as soon as possible.

[SATchives]

in your guys opinion whats the most efficient way to buy bitcoin, from my experience the bitcoin atm is the safest, but it takes like 10-20% of your cash or more sometimes. I've put in 500 and only got 300 ish before in bitcoin.

[Shadowcat]

in your guys opinion whats the most efficient way to buy bitcoin, from my experience the bitcoin atm is the safest, but it takes like 10-20% of your cash or more sometimes. I've put in 500 and only got 300 ish before in bitcoin.

I use trust wallet and it works pretty well. There is an option there that takes you to go to a vendor to buy the currency but for me every time it has only been a small fee. It does fluctuate though.

[blueFlame666]

What makes you think i'm such a social person that i'll email you regardless of who you are.

And to explain to you my financial condition and my whole situation so that you decide to help me.

It has been your decision until now to help some people privately, a discrimination against others

not of the Gods

I am like you except I see that its my own choice I don't speak to Cobra, which it is.

One time, we were all alone in the mud. Still this is the case but now we have this golden place of knowledge that works. So I don't really care if I'm not in constant correspondence with SS or a 'priority' at all and you shouldn't feel that you are owed that either.

You have people in your life and this world breathes through theirs in part. At the end of the day there are only so many people who can help in this early stage of the JoS. If you have a full belly and a roof over your head then stop feeling so sorry for yourself.

You are not that important in the grand scheme of things, I can assure you the people who speak to Cobra are truly in need and deserving moreso than you or me. This situation is actually 'of the Gods'

you only pay attention when they are curse or donate

Only that way you pay attention to people

you have formed a clique

[HP. Hoodedcobra666]

What makes you think i'm such a social person that i'll email you regardless of who you are.

And to explain to you my financial condition and my whole situation so that you decide to help me.

It has been your decision until now to help some people privately, a discrimination against others

not of the Gods

I am like you except I see that its my own choice I don't speak to Cobra, which it is.

One time, we were all alone in the mud. Still this is the case but now we have this golden place of knowledge that works. So I don't really care if I'm not in constant correspondence with SS or a 'priority' at all and you shouldn't feel that you are owed that either.

You have people in your life and this world breathes through theirs in part. At the end of the day there are only so many people who can help in this early stage of the JoS. If you have a full belly and a roof over your head then stop feeling so sorry for yourself.

You are not that important in the grand scheme of things, I can assure you the people who speak to Cobra are truly in need and deserving moreso than you or me. This situation is actually 'of the Gods'

you only pay attention when they are curse or donate

Only that way you pay attention to people

you have formed a clique

The fact that people that currently might not be able to do nothing are benefited in Spiritual Satanism, is NOT because of empty and fake humanitarian rights that don't even exist and claim humans "deserve by default", as these procure eternal laziness and destruction.

What is given out and for free by the Gods is to give opportunity to all people to advance further, so that you can become an advancing individual in the future.

The promise you pay to the Gods when you get this knowledge for "Free" is that you will apply it to better yourself and the universe, and use it to alleviate one's suffering and to self-overcome.

Clergy, Guardians or Forums have not denied help to anyone here, and you are a delusional liar if you try to claim that. We are here everyday doing this.

The people who give all of this for free and those of us who give everything for free do this as a form of sacrifice to the Gods. The community receives from this.

That's not exactly because you deserve this on the eternal status of a freeloader, or because you were born and you think that because you exist everyone has to kiss your ass while you have sworn to never do anything for nobody else.

The fact that a state issues a general protection for all people is guaranteed by the people that do something about it and partake in relations where people give time, energy, existence, wealth, wisdom etc, to each other.

If one doesn't want a part on this you have no rights to whine all day that others want to do it, be their contributions smaller or bigger. If you don't want to help anyone then don't.

JoS will keep giving everything as it was planned originally, but we will help even more to increase our own power in the process.

People who want to lift not a single finger, might as well join Christianity where Rabbi Jeboo will do anything for you if you just "Believe" in him idly in your own head.

Delusional states such as these cannot exist in the Joy of Satan or under the Gods who are the crowns of teaching us about existence and about the universe.

[Manofsatan]

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No, everyone will get knowledge, but these people who do extra will receive extra. The already existing plan is as is, and the plan is to increase this for humanity in general.

None of what has been stated undoes anything of the general plan for JoS which was already present, like everything that is given openly and freely.

What is stated is built to incentivize people to grow themselves, and to know that there can be extra acceleration to this end. This just builds upon and intensifies other areas of development, and further empowers us.

The Gods treat people that come close to them different than those who do not. That is self evident when one looks at this world. That's the whole essence of evolution in itself.
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I swear it, I must improve!

[VoiceofEnki]

There was one person who made almost a million at 21, after being helped to clear some legal cases and we helped them do certain things. Then they boasted to me they would donate, I was like that's a grateful and smart person, alright.

Time to do some projects, and they donated 220 dollars out of it.
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I have been thinking about this very subject lately. What would be a considerate and ethical amount to be donated as a millionaire. Donate in one go an extraordinary amount instead of a "salary", then the JoS decides how to handle the amount given, lets say you have a clear idea of a safe investment that will return a decent monthly income for the JoS indefinitely. Or both the big donation and the individual themselves keep a high amount as well to make the investments of their own and maybe both keep the donations going and doing other things.

Then expand the types of projects not just backing up the JoS but for instance, full reconstruction of ancient ruins like the Parthenon and whatnot - I've read the only reason no one has done this is because of these governments lack money (or multi-millionaires are just uninterested). Wide spread teaching and employment of these ancient architecture and art techniques and make it viable professions, reforestation projects etc.

Sorry if this is all too hypothetical and too much "what would I do if I won the lottery" meme. I can't help to think of helpful Satanists becoming millionaries and flexing on the Rabbis with nothing they can do about it.

An important thing to recognize is, the value of a millionaire doesn't lie in the wealth they have today, but their power and ability to generate wealth and thus provide value to things greater than themselves in increasing capacity than people with less power and ability over wealth.

Another thing to recognize is, most things in life are very vain. Many millionaires sit on their wealth worthlessly, and think this makes them rich, while in reality they are poor, as they exist in vanity.

That is not to say one should give all away, but one should think if in the position of great wealth, "Do I really need a 1 million dollar super car, or a 10 million dollar mansion?"

Personally, I think a minimum to do, would be to dedicate 10% solely to the JoS, if one cares. That is a minimum in my opinion, and can be applied to all levels of wealth.

Then too, 10% solely to oneself. Any left over can be used to reinvest, or used to generate greater wealth, so one is able to give more over time, and doesn't lose the power one has gained.

Again, the value of a millionaire is their ability to generate wealth in much greater capacity than the uneducated and average person. To then use that power to support greater things in life beyond the mere self, for the betterment of society and the Earth.

That is not to give till poverty, but also not to waste and live in vanity, but to be rich both in spirit and in life, and to provide for a common goal to uplift the worthy things in our world.

As an SS, the Joy of Satan is the most worthy existence, certainly it should be uplifted however one can, the more the better, as quite literally it pertains to the future of humanity as a whole that the Joy of Satan grows and continues to expand without limit.

Eventually, the Joy of Satan is to become the Embassy of the Gods on Earth. Not some small obscure thing.

The rewards of the Gods are certainly worth more than anything any quantity of money can buy. The deeper you go into Spiritual Satanism, the more you do realize that.

Hail Satan!

[Ursa Minor]

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Personally I made it a goal from about the first half of last year to donate to JoS monthly no matter what.
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I've been mostly the same, I send monthly donations, sometimes larger ones on holidays.

[SATchives]

in your guys opinion whats the most efficient way to buy bitcoin, from my experience the bitcoin atm is the safest, but it takes like 10-20% of your cash or more sometimes. I've put in 500 and only got 300 ish before in bitcoin.

I use trust wallet and it works pretty well. There is an option there that takes you to go to a vendor to buy the currency but for me every time it has only been a small fee. It does fluctuate though.

thanks I'll check it out.

[Rroco88]

Interesting how this post was made before I was about to donate for my first time.

This is a good idea to encourage people to donate, in case the growth of Satanism or of this website wasn't already motivating enough to do so.

[Henu the Great]

in your guys opinion whats the most efficient way to buy bitcoin, from my experience the bitcoin atm is the safest, but it takes like 10-20% of your cash or more sometimes. I've put in 500 and only got 300 ish before in bitcoin.

Anonymously? Localbitcoins is probably the way to go.

Otherwise one of the large exchange platforms as long as you don't hold the funds in their wallet.

And then there is the option of Monero which has much smaller fees.

Also, it might be possible to use some other form of crypto if you ask Cobra.

[Ramses]

My intentions are to build myself up financially to where I can be donating and contributing regularly when my life is in order enough to do this.

I have not done enough for anyone here and I'm aware of this, and although I desire to do much more, currently circumstances like health issues and poverty stand in my way of success, with me throwing everything I have at this so these obstacles break.

666x deep cleaning the soul daily with suryah, and multiple cycles of healing and financial workings for 40 to 80 days and taking breaks and alternating between them.

My life in many ways is a wreck.

And once it is more in order I really want to assist and be of some form of use to the Joy of Satan. As it's only right to give back.

Until then I try to be active in the forums as time allows and be realistic about how frustrating things are for me, and cope with it accordingly until the day comes where I am more capable.

Im curious of what would be advised to people in a state of circumstance like myself. As I'm sure I'm not the only one.

I'm doing everything but staying idle. However I'm trying to level a mountain. In terms of what issues I'm fighting against.

That's fair enough I think the message is aimed at people who are in position to but do not do I was homeless for a bit there till I got my shit together but even when I was doing well I'd only donate on special occasions like Easter or Yuletide but now I donate monthly even though I'm actually in a worse position but my connection to the gods has always been strong and at the time they sort of weren't that fussed about it then it's like as I got older and I had been doing this for a bit longer I started to step it up in small ways first giving like 50$ a month then I realised that when divided that up I was barely even giving 1 dollars a day towards the gods I was giving more money to other crap that I didn't even really care about like youtube premium or Netflix and Spotify and then my like inner pious genes kicked in and I was like what the fuck are you doing bro and so I stepped it way up to 400$ a month and I gave 1000$ on new years just gone past now I'm now down at 200$ an hr as I wanted to go wage war with the enemy on my terms I'm looking at putting money aside to buy realestste and use it first as a bit of an air bnb but then gradually turn it into a temple/lodge for JOS I was looking to buy and establish multiple of these across Europe it's an investment that I think would be good for later on down the track but sow the seeds now kind of thing so I reduced the amount of donating to go towards it I'm now up to 7400$ saved for the goal I have just been saving for it for the last two months but I slapped 7000$ down towards this goal of mine and one other Satanist is interested but he doesn't have a job so it's all me currently.

[blueFlame666]

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Joy of Satan is the definition of Spiritual Satanism.

Maxine Dietrich created everything successfully.

I may be in a delusional state as you as well who suppose you desire a number of a million active members when from the existing members is already chaos here.

I see Gods only through JoS.

Wishes for the greatest of the success.

[Ramses]

There was one person who made almost a million at 21, after being helped to clear some legal cases and we helped them do certain things. Then they boasted to me they would donate, I was like that's a grateful and smart person, alright.

Time to do some projects, and they donated 220 dollars out of it.
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I have been thinking about this very subject lately. What would be a considerate and ethical amount to be donated as a millionaire. Donate in one go an extraordinary amount instead of a "salary", then the JoS decides how to handle the amount given, lets say you have a clear idea of a safe investment that will return a decent monthly income for the JoS indefinitely. Or both the big donation and the individual themselves keep a high amount as well to make the investments of their own and maybe both keep the donations going and doing other things.

Then expand the types of projects not just backing up the JoS but for instance, full reconstruction of ancient ruins like the Parthenon and whatnot - I've read the only reason no one has done this is because of these governments lack money (or multi-millionaires are just uninterested). Wide spread teaching and employment of these ancient architecture and art techniques and make it viable professions, reforestation projects etc.

Sorry if this is all too hypothetical and too much "what would I do if I won the lottery" meme. I can't help to think of helpful Satanists becoming millionaries and flexing on the Rabbis with nothing they can do about it.

This is my long term goal in life but I'm no millionaire yet

[Ramses]

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you only pay attention when they are curse or donate

Only that way you pay attention to people

you have formed a clique

Blue flame freedom is not free do you think the United States of America was founded for free it was founded on money blood and a lot of hard work we owe the gods everything and its not like he is asking for your life's wealth I'm sure 50$ a month just about anyone can afford to do this if we are to bring our values and our way of change into the world we need capital that is the reality of our situation the Jews pay 3000$ a year to their temples so that way they own and run the world 3000 divided by 12 is 250$ and make no mistake we are much smaller then they are for now if we are ever to truly compete then we must atleast match this amount to be paid eventually but say your not willing to commit to that much because o vey I'm poor o vey I'm gentile ovey I am slave ovey how is this going to benefit me is all you think about then have the free stuff have the drips and drabs that the community throw at you I want change and I see the JOS as an investment any good gentile should.

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

in your guys opinion whats the most efficient way to buy bitcoin, from my experience the bitcoin atm is the safest, but it takes like 10-20% of your cash or more sometimes. I've put in 500 and only got 300 ish before in bitcoin.

I use the Bisq market/application, as it is decentralized and has minimum fees associated with trading. It can be a little difficult to set up, but not for someone like you.

[A B C]

Hp i did ask what would be better getting a job and donating or doing rituals.

I was told if it's not going to b much i should do rituals and I DO A LOT and truely it's manifesting in reality. Jews even got kicked put of parliament a day or so ago but I won't mid getting a job and donating. My mom and everyone is putting pressure one too but since I'm not highly qualified in anything i don't think think the money i would be donating would be worth it so doing 48 rtrs exactly each day or more is more worth it than working all day for a small salary each month and donating a small amount. But if you think it is more important i will because it will also get my parents off my neck but whatever you say I'll do it.

[SSinHeartandSoul]

All I'm gonna say is this:

Donators stand out and are especially taken seriously. If you know, you know.

This post has nothing to do with being taken serious or not, everyone here is being taken serious (If they show they are serious themselves) and everyone gets the help they need. HP HC simply states that if you donate you will be rewarded with a more personal insight of his.

All the help and information anyone in this path possibly needs is free, you simple need to want to see it and act on it.

[HP. Hoodedcobra666]

All I'm gonna say is this:

Donators stand out and are especially taken seriously. If you know, you know.

This post has nothing to do with being taken serious or not, everyone here is being taken serious (If they show they are serious themselves) and everyone gets the help they need. HP HC simply states that if you donate you will be rewarded with a more personal insight of his.

All the help and information anyone in this path possibly needs is free, you simple need to want to see it and act on it.

Exactly.

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Personally I made it a goal from about the first half of last year to donate to JoS monthly no matter what.
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I've been mostly the same, I send monthly donations, sometimes larger ones on holidays.

I do this all the time, and the idea is the same as with any holiday, because gift giving is why holidays exist in the first place.

Interesting how this post was made before I was about to donate for my first time.

This is a good idea to encourage people to donate, in case the growth of Satanism or of this website wasn't already motivating enough to do so.

Thank you on your first donation. Yes, that is a proper mindset. The idea is to become strongly entwined with the people who want to help closely on more and more levels and give them more power.

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Joy of Satan is the definition of Spiritual Satanism.
Maxine Dietrich created everything successfully.
I may be in a delusional state as you as well who suppose you desire a number of a million active members when from the existing members is already chaos here.
I see Gods only through JoS.
Wishes for the greatest of the success.

Thanks for the good wishes, everyone will benefit.

HPS Maxine gave birth to this beautiful child, but it is my duty to take this child to adulthood and make it strong, educated and powerful.

We must all empower this place instead of dwelling only on the past, as we will be annihilated if we only dwell on the past.

We are not delusional in anyway. That's the natural outcome and the Will of the Gods.

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you only pay attention when they are curse or donate

Only that way you pay attention to people

you have formed a clique

Blue flame freedom is not free do you think the United States of America was founded for free it was founded on money blood and a lot of hard work we owe the gods everything and its not like he is asking for your life's wealth I'm sure 50$ a month just about anyone can afford to do this if we are to bring our values and our way of change into the world we need capital that is the reality of our situation the Jews pay 3000$ a year to their temples so that way they own and run the world 3000 divided by 12 is 250$ and make no mistake we are much smaller then they are for now if we are ever to truly compete then we must atleast match this amount to be paid eventually but say your not willing to commit to that much because o vey I'm poor o vey I'm gentile ovey I am slave ovey how is this going to benefit me is all you think about then have the free stuff have the drips and drabs that the community throw at you I want change and I see the JOS as an investment any good gentile should.

The Joy of Satan is the biggest investment on earth at this point as it's the investment that will guarantee the most maximum output of value than anything else in this world.

In regards to the jews, 3000$ is baby money for them, and especially those who pay temples. I have seen videos and read articles where Rabbis in very small synagogues just go to their own and ask for anything from 18,000$ to 72,000$ and other things like that. That's the things they disclose not the big fish things.

Jews KNOW that this money is absolutely necessary for them. Who will bless them and do spiritual work for them to succeed? They know that by giving 72,000$ for example, they will get 720,000$ or some shit from all the work done on them by their fellows. So they do it.

If the kikes follow up, they do all sorts of work on them, like the ones we know to do on our own if that is the case; and if not, things can turn really ugly for those of their fold that deny this, as they consider this a rejection to "Hashem itself".

The above is very logical as they aren't retarded and they want to survive. Plus, they know their survival is absolutely reliant on spiritual power and knowledge, not bullshit that Gentiles are taught to ignore.

Many jews such as jews in Brooklyn are into diamond trading and other businesses so 3000$ is a joke for them. 3000$ is like the absolute minimum for jews. They just don't disclose what they are doing.

[OuroborphicMystery]

This is great news. Currently, I feel like I can't make donations because when I do, I want it to be a completely stable, permanently, recurring thing that's just "always a part of my life" and I'm in a transitory period right now, so it's hard to account for expenses easily. That's not to mention the personal obstacles in the way that I'm seeking to eliminate. In one way, this post inspires hope but at the same time, I'm getting some major FOMO. I have had a very large desire to serve Father both according to my skills and also in terms of direct donations for a very long time and I did do some things, but I feel like I'm "falling behind" now and that my contributions will not have less "weight" to them if I, say, start a year from now or something. I don't want to be "too late" - either for myself or the Gods.

How do I deal with this? Responses from advanced Brothers and Sisters are much appreciated too.

[Henu the Great]

This is great news. Currently, I feel like I can't make donations because when I do, I want it to be a completely stable, permanently, recurring thing that's just "always a part of my life" and I'm in a transitory period right now, so it's hard to account for expenses easily. That's not to mention the personal obstacles in the way that I'm seeking to eliminate. In one way, this post inspires hope but at the same time, I'm getting some major FOMO. I have had a very large desire to serve Father both according to my skills and also in terms of direct donations for a very long time and I did do some things, but I feel like I'm "falling behind" now and that my contributions will not have less "weight" to them if I, say, start a year from now or something. I don't want to be "too late" - either for myself or the Gods.

How do I deal with this? Responses from advanced Brothers and Sisters are much appreciated too.

You'll need to have your base of operations set and running smoothly before you can expand on operations. Does that make sense?

Don't worry. You have the right idea, and you'll follow through when you are able.

[Yagami Light]

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Hey. I am also in a transitory period, and it is crucial for me to save a lot of money. However, even as little as 10 or 20 or 30 euros/dollars (whatever your currency ) per month, it is a great move to make. It will not be a grand amount, but it is still helpful (imagine if all SS donated that amount monthly. In the end, it amounts to a big amount!).

So, this would be my advice to you. Donate a very small amount monthly (I have even set an alarm on my phone on a monthly basis). When you (as well as I) get out of this transitory phase and become stable, then we can donate more money.

But honestly, stability is a very fragile thing. You think you got it and then you suddenly have doctor expenses or a damage at the house etc. Things happen; but they shouldn't make us freeze in our tracks. That's why I recommend a very small monthly amount, instead of nothing.

[blueFlame666]

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you only pay attention when they are curse or donate

Only that way you pay attention to people

you have formed a clique

Blue flame freedom is not free do you think the United States of America was founded for free it was founded on money blood and a lot of hard work we owe the gods everything and its not like he is asking for your life's wealth I'm sure 50$ a month just about anyone can afford to do this if we are to bring our values and our way of change into the world we need capital that is the reality of our situation the Jews pay 3000$ a year to their temples so that way they own and run the world 3000 divided by 12 is 250$ and make no mistake we are much smaller then they are for now if we are ever to truly compete then we must atleast match this amount to be paid eventually but say your not willing to commit to that much because o vey I'm poor o vey I'm gentile ovey I am slave ovey how is this going to benefit me is all you think about then have the free stuff have the drips and drabs that the community throw at you I want change and I see the JOS as an investment any good gentile should.

You better care for what it is heard , you are rude, ironic, uncaring for real people making a percentage not want to hear about the forum.

Do you think I'm stupid ?
An average person's opinion will result in insults from all of you.

A million polite posts and noone of you here will ever give a shit.

I came, I saw and I agree.

And why are you explaining to me the whole theory of your free or non-miraculous services?

I am basically a year as SS.

See your achievements first to those who have been here since 2017.

After those who have been here for 20 years.

And still they haven't done anything.

A big shit.

[Blitzkreig [JG]]

I may be in a delusional state as you as well who suppose you desire a number of a million active members when from the existing members is already chaos here.

What reason is there for avoiding further growth? This would just hinder the total Satanic influence on Earth.

There is no true chaos here, especially as people continue to grow and learn. Having an argument is not significant chaos. Plus, as we gain more people, there will be more who can serve as pillars in the community, not just chaotic people.

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Just give what is a reasonable amount. If your financial state fluctuates to the point where you can only give a little, then this is perfectly fine. Also, you can invest your time in many other projects, including spiritual warfare.

I would not worry too much. Just keep working on the solutions here. There is no immediate cause for concern or anything.

[Weassel]

Well it's a good ideea because it could work for promotion.

Even so I know I said many times that I would donate I still have yet to do it given the fact that exodus wallet require at least 20 euros and the economy and inflation here are... kinda bad and soon I will need to chase a real career (wanted to try being a car/auto mechanic)and I gotta keep as much money close to me for stuff and the school and if I would buy it now... it kinda makes me feel guilty because I came for those rewards and not to help.

Yes my comment does not help with anything here I know, hmm I could try donating those 20 euros once two months that could work.

[Artifergolem]

All I'm gonna say is this:

Donators stand out and are especially taken seriously. If you know, you know.

This post has nothing to do with being taken serious or not, everyone here is being taken serious (If they show they are serious themselves) and everyone gets the help they need. HP HC simply states that if you donate you will be rewarded with a more personal insight of his.

All the help and information anyone in this path possibly needs is free, you simple need to want to see it and act on it.

All I'm doing is giving my insight into something.
It's not like giving to a church or some fake charity. Give a little or give a lot, it doesn't go unnoticed.

Peace, brother.

[SATchives]

in your guys opinion whats the most efficient way to buy bitcoin, from my experience the bitcoin atm is the safest, but it takes like 10-20% of your cash or more sometimes. I've put in 500 and only got 300 ish before in bitcoin.

I use the Bisq market/application, as it is decentralized and has minimum fees associated with trading. It can be a little difficult to set up, but not for someone like you.

fantastic thanks for sharing this, it reminded me of this platform, I was trying to figure the name of it last week as I had forgotten about it, it's an amazing p2p network

[SATchives]

in your guys opinion whats the most efficient way to buy bitcoin, from my experience the bitcoin atm is the safest, but it takes like 10-20% of your cash or more sometimes. I've put in 500 and only got 300 ish before in bitcoin.

I use trust wallet and it works pretty well. There is an option there that takes you to go to a vendor to buy the currency but for me every time it has only been a small fee. It does fluctuate though.

So I checked it out I think trust wallet could be safe, especially if used with grapheneos, or a phone that's only wifi capable (no sim)

it didn't ask me for my ID like most exchanges seem to do nowadays, and only a CC which i'll see if it accept cash prepaids cc later today

[gnome]

Although I don't believe you should have to do things like this to get us to make a regular commitment to donations, it certainly will give me the incentive to do so.

[Lightningsnake]

Is it valid if I send an email with a photo of the receipt?
Next time I thought.

[HP. Hoodedcobra666]

Is it valid if I send an email with a photo of the receipt?
Next time I thought.

Yes, of course. Just send an e-mail with this either on [email protected] or at [email protected].

Then we will check the application, and then you will be put in the donors list and more information will arrive. We are organizing this right now.

Although I don't believe you should have to do things like this to get us to make a regular commitment to donations, it certainly will give me the incentive to do so.

It will benefit us all and the community so no worries, I'll do it.

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A million polite posts and noone of you here will ever give a shit.
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I actually do that's why I gave you a very elaborate and open response. Good luck on your journey and keep going. Sometimes everyone has a bad day, it happens.

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All I'm doing is giving my insight into something.
It's not like giving to a church or some fake charity. Give a little or give a lot, it doesn't go unnoticed.

Peace, brother.

JoS has paid humanity before it was even paid for itself.

The opposite is the case with the jewish church which is a scam and nothing else.

JoS first gave everything and then gained "anything".

The enemy is the opposite.

[Ursa Minor]

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Also, it might be possible to use some other form of crypto if you ask Cobra.

He does, I donated some of my alt-coins by asking him over email.

[88HungarianSatanicWarrior666]

Is it valid if I send an email with a photo of the receipt?
Next time I thought.

I once wrote with a pen in my hand to Transaction ID, other times I took a picture of the Transaction ID.And I only sent the Transaction ID by e-mail(just the code consisting of letters and numbers).I have not linked a picture in e-mails, because I thought it was totally unnecessary.Only the code matters to note that.But photography is the most convenient way for you, then you do it.

[blueFlame666]

Is it valid if I send an email with a photo of the receipt?
Next time I thought.

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I actually do that's why I gave you a very elaborate and open response. Good luck on your journey and keep going. Sometimes everyone has a bad day, it happens.

I got anger after a point , i admit it, sorry

[OuroborphicMystery]

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Hey. I am also in a transitory period, and it is crucial for me to save a lot of money. However, even as little as 10 or 20 or 30 euros/dollars (whatever your currency ) per month, it is a great move to make. It will not be a grand amount, but it is still helpful (imagine if all SS donated that amount monthly. In the end, it amounts to a big amount!).

So, this would be my advice to you. Donate a very small amount monthly (I have even set an alarm on my phone on a monthly basis). When you (as well as I) get out of this transitory phase and become stable, then we can donate more money.

But honestly, stability is a very fragile thing. You think you got it and then you suddenly have doctor expenses or a damage at the house etc. Things happen; but they shouldn't make us freeze in our tracks. That's why I recommend a very small monthly amount, instead of nothing.

Thanks, Sibling. Brother Guardian Blitz said something along the same lines, so I'll address both of you below.

I may be in a delusional state as you as well who suppose you desire a number of a million active members when from the existing members is already chaos here.

What reason is there for avoiding further growth? This would just hinder the total Satanic influence on Earth.

There is no true chaos here, especially as people continue to grow and learn. Having an argument is not significant chaos. Plus, as we gain more people, there will be more who can serve as pillars in the community, not just chaotic people.

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Just give what is a reasonable amount. If your financial state fluctuates to the point where you can only give a little, then this is perfectly fine. Also, you can invest your time in many other projects, including spiritual warfare.

I would not worry too much. Just keep working on the solutions here. There is no immediate cause for concern or anything.

I am aware that is the more reasonable course of action, I just generally have a mentality of "go big or go home" in matters of life-or-death importance to me, such as Father's temple. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth somehow to give little when I "should" be hugely rich and giving massive amounts regularly. So, doing it bit by bit makes me feel as if I only did a little bit, even though I am cognitively aware that what it adds up to, the gesture behind it, the consistency and the intention also matter as much as the amount itself. It's not that I am unaware, I guess it's just that putting it into perspective by my own self feels like it's slighting my pride as a Satanist or something. It sounds really ugly to say it out loud and I am aware of that, I'm just airing out how I feel about this. But of course, both of you speak reason and rationally speaking, there is nothing that holds me back. And hearing it from someone else I hold in high regard (by default, all SS) hits differently. I'll probably quit whining and do it. I have so much catching and making up to do regarding service, after all.

Also, special thanks to you, Brother Guardian Blitz. I bothered you personally with my questions many times here on the forums and you pretty much always got back with useful knowledge. Know that I also seek to become someone who shines like a beacon unto their Brothers and Sisters as well as People. May all your torches light many more new ones and those, uncountably more still.

This is great news. Currently, I feel like I can't make donations because when I do, I want it to be a completely stable, permanently, recurring thing that's just "always a part of my life" and I'm in a transitory period right now, so it's hard to account for expenses easily. That's not to mention the personal obstacles in the way that I'm seeking to eliminate. In one way, this post inspires hope but at the same time, I'm getting some major FOMO. I have had a very large desire to serve Father both according to my skills and also in terms of direct donations for a very long time and I did do some things, but I feel like I'm "falling behind" now and that my contributions will not have less "weight" to them if I, say, start a year from now or something. I don't want to be "too late" - either for myself or the Gods.

How do I deal with this? Responses from advanced Brothers and Sisters are much appreciated too.

You'll need to have your base of operations set and running smoothly before you can expand on operations. Does that make sense?

Don't worry. You have the right idea, and you'll follow through when you are able.

Thank you for your kind words too, Brother. I know what you are talking about, I just feel a need to get on with it already.

[SyraS_666]

Is it valid if I send an email with a photo of the receipt?
Next time I thought.

Yes, of course. Just send an e-mail with this either on [email protected] or at [email protected].

Then we will check the application, and then you will be put in the donors list and more information will arrive. We are organizing this right now.

I've sent you an email, boss.

[Shadowcat]

in your guys opinion whats the most efficient way to buy bitcoin, from my experience the bitcoin atm is the safest, but it takes like 10-20% of your cash or more sometimes. I've put in 500 and only got 300 ish before in bitcoin.

I use trust wallet and it works pretty well. There is an option there that takes you to go to a vendor to buy the currency but for me every time it has only been a small fee. It does fluctuate though.

So I checked it out I think trust wallet could be safe, especially if used with grapheneos, or a phone that's only wifi capable (no sim)

it didn't ask me for my ID like most exchanges seem to do nowadays, and only a CC which i'll see if it accept cash prepaids cc later today

When I asked about how to buy Bitcoin for donations last year HP Cobra was the one to suggest trust wallet to me

[Ara666]

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-High Priest Hooded Cobra 666

I think this is a wonderful idea! This has never been done before.

This might also motivate people into doing more for the JoS.

[Aquarius]

I personally usa cake wallet for IOS, and buy monero from localmonero.

[Ol argedco luciftias]

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https://web.archive.org/web/20210909071 ... posed.com/

[Stormblood]

[...]

See your achievements first to those who have been here since 2017.

After those who have been here for 20 years.

And still they haven't done anything.

A big shit.

Those who have achieved nothing is because they have not applied themselves to the path properly. Those who achieve little in a large timespan is because they either fall in the first category of the lazy and ungrateful or because they have life commitments that only allow them little free time to dedicate to life-changing experiences.

A donation tier system is an amazing idea which matches well the expansion of the forums. People are already helped all of the time. It's normal for there to be an equal exchange. Some people give back by contributing through investing their time in projects, some people only have the opportunity to contribute financially, others can do both. Your investment relative to your individual circumstances decides your worth, here like everywhere in life.

The mindset of only receiving without giving anything back is that of parasite, not a Spiritual Satanist.

[88HungarianSatanicWarrior666]

Is it valid if I send an email with a photo of the receipt?
Next time I thought.

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because I thought it was totally unnecessary. ...

Translation error, OMG.
Fixed at this text:because I knew it was totally unnecessary. ...

[Immortal]

To all the people here that do not know how much to donate, I would go against a fixed sum, because it could be either too small in which case you would have way to much left for booze and cigarettes or too big in which case you would feel guilty by not being able to pay it on a bad month.

So, what I suggest is to donate a fixed percentage either of your total income, or of your remaining sum after paying the necessary expenses (rent, food, health). Netflix subscription and the likes doesn't count as necessary This way, on a good month you give more, on a bad month you give less, but either way you are covered. Someone said pay yourself first in some wealth book, we could change this to pay the Gods first. The idea is that by donating it would be returned to you manyfold either in more opportunities or exemption from disasters (financial, medical etc.), I don't have proof for this but this is how I felt it manifesting and I'm not talking here only about money or jos. If I don't give things away (time, money, energy) bad things tend to happen like I forget to pay something and I get a fine, or something breaks you get the picture.

The percentage should be something you are comfortable with psychically, be it 1% or 10% or 50%. And in my humble opinion it could also be increased as your income multiplies. For instance if you make per month:

• income < 100 $ go with 1%

• 100 $ < income < 500 $ go with 5%

• 1000 $ < income < 5000 $ go with 10%

• 5000 $ < income < 10k $ go with 15%

• income > 10k $ go with 30% or more

Beware, the more you earn the more the percentage will translate into an actual sum and it could be painful to give such a large amount. But this is the trick, you just apply the percentage, like in marriage, for better or worse

But start with a percentage you feel absolutely at peace, because otherwise you would give it in some sort of half-hearted manner. Anyway, these are just for the sake of examples, not to be taken literally.

Anyway, I remember a post where I suggested the idea of incentives and some members here replied quite strongly and said you should do stuff just because is right and we don't need candy like for little kids . I don't want to gloat or anything like that, just want to say again we are human beings and we respond to rewards or punishments. It is in our nature, it is what it is. Our senses are assaulted from everywhere by hard stimuli, from commercials to family, friends and society. We do many things at once right now: we work, we dance, we drink, we go out, we watch movies, we meditate etc. It is not black and white as it once were when you mounted your horse, fought the battle, drink, eat, rest, repeat. It is very hard right now to have boundaries and most of them are subtle and easily influenced.

That being said, the subject of addiction comes to mind. You see, people didn't just start to smoke and drink because they were lazy and stupid. We used to have commercials where it was cool to smoke, that should ring a bell. What about video games? You get all those daily quests just to keep the buzz going. I don't even want to mention kids commercials or drugs without prescription. They do all kinds of studied, psychological things to get your last dime out of your pocket, or the last second of your waking time. These things are designed to be addictive. I bet quite a huge number of you right here, fell for this or are falling for it right now. Played any vydia lately? Smoked some? 6-pack today? And yet, incentives for jos are looked down upon.

Anyway, bottom line I think is this. So far, jos was a kid, now it's time to man up. Applications written for hundreds of users differ greatly from those written for millions of users. It's just a matter of scalability. It is the same with mass production if you like, you had your local farmers who made cheese for an army of a few thousands. But if you want to gather the first million under your banner, you need to put your farmers into a factory.

To those saying they are broke, or don't have a job right now, it stands to reason to not give money right now. But getting a job, or getting an income should be a priority, because it offers independence. Giving an endless amount of RTR repetitions instead of 20 bucks is not the way either. Balance is key, we should develop in all directions simultaneously physically, mentally, spiritually and yes financially. I believe power obtained in small increments and spread evenly is the most desirable form of power.

And to those saying HP shouldn't keep going with this over and over again, please remember you didn't collect your toys spread around the house the first time your mom said so. Maybe not the second nor the third time and maybe just maybe you had to have your butt kicked to do it. And did you watch any youtube or tiktok lately? Those people are begging for donations and likes and whatever. Fyi I just read some chick makes 100k $ per month just because she has big natural boobs and she moved to another country to pay less taxes. I mean I am at a loss over this thinking I went to college, studied things, work hard and don't make nowhere near that. So I can only imagine what it must feel like for the people running jos and dedicating their lives to it. So, if you are an SS with big boobs you know what to do

So, in conclusion, there are many among us doing wonderful things for jos that money just can't buy, like clergy and guardians and so on, then there are those fighting every day via long RTR repetitions, those doing meditations, astrology readings, translations, website maintenance and I am grateful for your hard work. Fortunately, for the rest of us, even those terrible like myself, we now(actually for quite a long time) have mastercard

My 2 cents (I'm not giving them away, they're mine!)

[Wotanwarrior]

How to buy Bitcoin if you have no smartphone and only have a laptop with no webcam, no printer and no scanner and you can't scan QR codes?

I downloaded the Exodus wallet and I tried to buy Bitcoin in several places and in several ways and they ask me for verification with a QR code or even with a photo of your face with your mobile.
I also tried from a Bitcoin cashier and they ask for verification by email and scan the QR code of where you want to deposit the Bitcoin from the smartphone screen.

[blueFlame666]

[...]

See your achievements first to those who have been here since 2017.

After those who have been here for 20 years.

And still they haven't done anything.

A big shit.

Those who have achieved nothing is because they have not applied themselves to the path properly. Those who achieve little in a large timespan is because they either fall in the first category of the lazy and ungrateful or because they have life commitments that only allow them little free time to dedicate to life-changing experiences.

A donation tier system is an amazing idea which matches well the expansion of the forums. People are already helped all of the time. It's normal for there to be an equal exchange. Some people give back by contributing through investing their time in projects, some people only have the opportunity to contribute financially, others can do both. Your investment relative to your individual circumstances decides your worth, here like everywhere in life.

The mindset of only receiving without giving anything back is that of parasite, not a Spiritual Satanist.

Yes, i thought of all, totally agree.

[88HungarianSatanicWarrior666]

[...]

See your achievements first to those who have been here since 2017.

After those who have been here for 20 years.

And still they haven't done anything.

A big shit.

Those who have achieved nothing is because they have not applied themselves to the path properly. Those who achieve little in a large timespan is because they either fall in the first category of the lazy and ungrateful or because they have life commitments that only allow them little free time to dedicate to life-changing experiences.

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What you forgot, that a little so to speak "cleverness"(inteligence) is also needed needed for spiritual development.Of course have all the knowledge here in Jos, but everyone is an individual, unique, with a different physically, spiritually and mentally, therefore individually different methods may be right for someone.What I mean to say is that everyone needs a good objective view of themselves and planning, that to know where to work on someone soul or perhaps in other areas of life.
It's no use someone having much(lots) time, diligent in vain and has the willpower, if someone do not know where to spiritual work.

So this can also be an obstacle to spiritual development, not just laziness and from other activities(occupation) due to lack of time.

[Darkpagan666]

A very interesting way to expand JoS and advance!

[Shadowcat]

The Joy of Satan Turkey website (https://spirituelsatanizm.org) has recently undergone a redesign, a work that could not have been achieved without meeting several critical requirements, some of which were financial. We discussed this with High Priest and without any hitches we were provided with what we needed for our community and our plans.
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First and foremost I want to thank the JoS Turkey management and team for this.

The redesign is starting to look better and better as time goes.

Of course there isn't any hesitation to anything. If we can do it, we do it. Currently, that is a vision that is being created, we aren't on the highest levels of what is envisioned, but we will get there undoubtedly.

When we have more, we will give more and more. And as everyone makes more, we will be able to give more, and everyone will get more in return.

Alright, to further motivate people reading, this money was from my monthly personal earnings. I donate and use large amounts of funds to get things going. I am Tier 4.

I don't invite people in this mindset without having practices it for a very long time myself. I have been a large donor myself, not the other way. For many many years now. The costs to run JoS have outweighed the gains for many years. It's up to a few this wasn't the case.

Currently there are even more people going in, so we appreciate you and we love you, that's why I am taking the initiative here as mentioned above. Our volunteers and those who do these gestures are extremely important, and I want to elevate this importance.

The more powerful we are, the more lifeblood will be given to all of the communities, besides the central JoS. The idea is to reach a point where EVERYONE will have grown to such extents that we will bless everything.

I am very glad the design is turning out and that JOS Turkey has benefitted! This could not have happened without the proper resources for certain. I hope more follow this example in the near future.

[Dragonheart666]

Ok....never mind! The last post. I have things under control. I am using
Portion meal and firewall as a protection. SOOOOOOOO....I AM GOOD!

[blueFlame666]

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What reason is there for avoiding further growth? This would just hinder the total Satanic influence on Earth.

There is no true chaos here, especially as people continue to grow and learn. Having an argument is not significant chaos. Plus, as we gain more people, there will be more who can serve as pillars in the community, not just chaotic people.

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Further growth cannot be stopped, nor the satanic influence on Earth.

Things may come in strange ways, but the Gods are with us for this purpose, I know.

Yes, arguments can be constructive.