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6Catawampusly6Satanic6 wrote:
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How To Obliterate Your Saturn by Lydia
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So then this process that Lydia detailed is still valid then yes? Because I've yet to get around to doing it and was looking forward to it. I'm assuming this process Lydia lays out will work to take all the negative aspects out of Saturn for you and that's how you benefit from it, correct?
Yes, that is an old classic. It's important Saturn's energies are dealt with. But if you understand why and how these happen, one will be more able to deal with them and/or avoid the negative consequences.
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Thanks for the quick response. I knew it was of great importance since I'm always thinking of it here and there. I guess I better get to it then and quit dragging my feet. I've dealt with Saturn's harsh methods of letting me know I'm messing up too many times but like a stern father I always appreciate the lesson afterwards. Thank you for everything you do HP HoodedCobra. I'd still be lost without everything you and HP Maxine have done for the Satanic family here on earth. Your sermons always seem to be right on time with what I'm currently dealing with. It's kinda eery but it's also how I know we're all connected in this fight and gives a me a very overwhelming sense of contentment knowing I'm on the right path after so many years of believing the wrong things and then believing NOTHING at all which had me suicidal for way too long.

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HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
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It's better to not go that way. Nauthiz and other runes can do very similar work without extra crap
But of course like you mentioned a few years ago. The runes worst case scenario they are a slap on the wrist. Doing exocosmic planetary squares will ruin your life potentially even destruct your mind into mental illness.

So then how would Nauthiz be best used in my case as someone who is head in the clouds and finds void impossible for any length of time greater than natural thought suspension.

How would I go about weaving some runes together or just using nauthiz?

Is that the purpose of Nauthiz/Other to bring down the person to Earth and ground them make them care about their body stop living in lalaland mental intensity etc.etc.?
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i have Saturn in the ***. guess whats hard for me that i need to work in? Spiritual Satanism.
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Gear88 wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 10:09 pm
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:57 pm
It's better to not go that way. Nauthiz and other runes can do very similar work without extra crap
But of course like you mentioned a few years ago. The runes worst case scenario they are a slap on the wrist. Doing exocosmic planetary squares will ruin your life potentially even destruct your mind into mental illness.

So then how would Nauthiz be best used in my case as someone who is head in the clouds and finds void impossible for any length of time greater than natural thought suspension.

How would I go about weaving some runes together or just using nauthiz?

Is that the purpose of Nauthiz/Other to bring down the person to Earth and ground them make them care about their body stop living in lalaland mental intensity etc.etc.?
I don't remember the title but there is a post Hoodedcobra made about using Aum, Satanama or Isa to still the mind. You could try it.
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I have Saturn in the *** house and it sucks. What can I do with this? How can I apply this knowledge to improve myself?
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What we have to remember is that Satan's Zodiac Signs are both Aquarius (Uranus) and Capricorn (Saturn). As He has stated, 'I both enrich and impoverish.'; when improvements are called for, he comes as Uranus as he also comes as Saturn when something needs to be torn asunder. The problem is that people are so focused on what they have crumble, Satan's words, "Let's try this again.", or, 'You will prevail', fall on deaf ears.

It just goes to show, with some very few exceptions that prove the rule, nothing is inherently bad. Just like some people think about black energy and it is only used for destruction. Well, the thing of it is they are right, but they are thinking about it in a very one dimensional fashion. Next time you want to clean your soul, try this: Use black energy but visualize it like water shimmering in moon or sun light. Seriously, I have actually been doing it for a while and I dare say that it sometimes works even better than White Gold energy.
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HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
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I'm excited to see what happens around the time of my Saturn return, as it will be during a critical time for humanity.

One thing's for sure, though: Saturn has forced me to get off my ass and forge my own path. I can appreciate that.
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Wildfire wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:58 am
If a person were to have his saturn in the eleventh house with mars close to its position, I thought this would mean a lot of crap in a persons life like facing enemies althroughout his life. Would its positive side have to do something with being a leader over those types of people?
Saturn in the 11th, when sublimated properly, can make the strongest of friendships that stand the test of time. Fire-forged bonds that form through hardships ("blood, sweat and toil") and are unbreakable/permanent. You and these people will have each other's back no matter what, especially in very difficult situations. This is one of the best aspects for friendships, in my opinion.

On the flip side, like stated, when a person doesn't have a good handle on the energies, being at a lower level existentially, they simply wreck and drag down their so-called "friends".
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HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
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Some top military commanders in this world have Saturn major placements.
Saturn in the first house contribute that and other top-tier position, if properly harnessed, right?
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Saturn can explode and burn for all I care. I'll never see Saturn in any positive light or acknowledge it as being anything positive ever. You can say it rules over endurance and has positive effects sometimes, but for me its caused the most pain and suffering ever. In my 8th house with extreme poverty, no sexual partner, and no hope in sight. My teeth are decayed and must be pulled and replaced with dental implants, I have mild tinnitus, and other stuff that Saturn has caused. I just want to escape Saturn and all of its bad influences as a whole. I could make this a huge post about all the shit Saturn has caused, but id rather keep it short and simple. I don't like planet Saturn at all.
Instead of whining and wallowing, what steps have you taken to improve your living condition?
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HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:26 pm
sonnenkraft wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:04 pm
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
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Certain placements which people consider "damned", such as Saturn in the 2nd house, can sometimes create hardcore millionaires. I have seen this on more than a few charts. Not all, but they can make it happen. Because hardship in this area of life, if overcome, can make one a strong person in this aspect of life.
A lot of people who now hold a lot of power physically, such as the top 100 of the earth in decisions, do also have strong Saturn quite often.
How do you see Saturn in 9th House .
Hatred for authority, hating on religious structures [such as jews or those of the enemy] and a non conformist nature. Strong on human rights and against violations of these rights.

On the downside, potential clashes with authority, legal troubles, hate of the law in the wrong way etc.
Is this the similar to Saturn in Sagittarius. I very much have these traits. I don't have it in the 9th house though.

On a downside though I swear this can make one deal with the enemy religions more so or be restricted by them in some way. I also think Saturn in the 9th house or sagittarius can be religious fundy people of the enemy in some cases. What your talking about is the more positive aspect of this or how it would play out in a more evolved person.
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I am curious what you think Saturn conjunct a natal planet might mean for someone. Let's say conjunct Uranus in the 11th for example. To me Saturn transits feel far more interactive than natal aspects because at least with transits they can be opportunities to get my act together and don't feel like chains attached to my feet.
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The problem with these ideas of Saturn 'being evil' and such is that charts with an extremely weak Saturn and no Capricorn/Aquarius influence tend to produce very weak people with no sense of direction and I have observed this myself.

A lot of Icke types call the Moon evil and 'a satellite' because it's the most intimate planet, they take Astrologers knowledge about how the Moon works in all kinds of insanely accurate events and create some insane LARP. I mean, yes, afflictions of the Moon can create insane people, that does not mean the Moon is evil in itself.

This logic is idiotic. Frankly you could build a case for the Sun being a huge malefic if you focus on certain things. Such as combustion.
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Stormblood wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:04 am
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:31 pm
Some top military commanders in this world have Saturn major placements.
Saturn in the first house contribute that and other top-tier position, if properly harnessed, right?
It requires a lot of persistence, but these are some of the hardest and strongest people if they manage to pull through. Saturn in the 1st can be a total bitch. It eases out after the 30th year of one's life most of the time.

Saturn is difficult to work around, but it overcome, can produce some of the most strong willed individuals.

Arnold Schwarzenegger had Saturn Pluto which can be a really intense aspect, both in Leo, which can be devastating for one's self confidence. Saturn was also square his Jupiter, limiting his Jupiter strongly.

Instead of allowing himself to be fucked by the aspect, he became one of the best bodybuilders on earth by excessive hard work. This is only one example of this.
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Frinnis wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:30 pm
What we have to remember is that Satan's Zodiac Signs are both Aquarius (Uranus) and Capricorn (Saturn). As He has stated, 'I both enrich and impoverish.'; when improvements are called for, he comes as Uranus as he also comes as Saturn when something needs to be torn asunder. The problem is that people are so focused on what they have crumble, Satan's words, "Let's try this again.", or, 'You will prevail', fall on deaf ears.

It just goes to show, with some very few exceptions that prove the rule, nothing is inherently bad. Just like some people think about black energy and it is only used for destruction. Well, the thing of it is they are right, but they are thinking about it in a very one dimensional fashion. Next time you want to clean your soul, try this: Use black energy but visualize it like water shimmering in moon or sun light. Seriously, I have actually been doing it for a while and I dare say that it sometimes works even better than White Gold energy.
While some things may not be "Bad" or purposefully "Evil", such as let's say the Gamma Rays of the universe, these can actually destroy humans. Some of these things are also energies such as grey energy.

Black is a tricky color to work with, and the same goes for White. This is explained in the JoS website.
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Karnonnos wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:17 am
The problem with these ideas of Saturn 'being evil' and such is that charts with an extremely weak Saturn and no Capricorn/Aquarius influence tend to produce very weak people with no sense of direction and I have observed this myself.

A lot of Icke types call the Moon evil and 'a satellite' because it's the most intimate planet, they take Astrologers knowledge about how the Moon works in all kinds of insanely accurate events and create some insane LARP. I mean, yes, afflictions of the Moon can create insane people, that does not mean the Moon is evil in itself.

This logic is idiotic. Frankly you could build a case for the Sun being a huge malefic if you focus on certain things. Such as combustion.
I guess since people can drown, we have to stop drinking water?

These people are just lunatics and it's not the moon's fault.

One strong solar flare and human species will be history. But the sun is only good and not a malefic <3.
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slyscorpion wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:08 am
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:26 pm
sonnenkraft wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:04 pm


How do you see Saturn in 9th House .
Hatred for authority, hating on religious structures [such as jews or those of the enemy] and a non conformist nature. Strong on human rights and against violations of these rights.

On the downside, potential clashes with authority, legal troubles, hate of the law in the wrong way etc.
Is this the similar to Saturn in Sagittarius. I very much have these traits. I don't have it in the 9th house though.

On a downside though I swear this can make one deal with the enemy religions more so or be restricted by them in some way. I also think Saturn in the 9th house or sagittarius can be religious fundy people of the enemy in some cases. What your talking about is the more positive aspect of this or how it would play out in a more evolved person.
I know what you mean. But you know, it all depends on the chart too.

I've met radical atheists with Saturn in the 9th. One person I knew was a Capricorn Stellium, Saturn in the 9th, and they were the most stubborn atheist one would ever meet. They refused to believe in anything such as that even other life may exist in the universe. But in a very aggressive and forcibly non open minded way.
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Invictus wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:36 pm
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:36 pm
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I'm excited to see what happens around the time of my Saturn return, as it will be during a critical time for humanity.

One thing's for sure, though: Saturn has forced me to get off my ass and forge my own path. I can appreciate that.
I removed this as nobody needs to know. Just know that this is a very good aspect, fated, and shows a positive aspect to Saturn. It's one of the least negative in the zodiac about Saturn.

Prepare your life now so that when this happens, you get elevated and get minimal damage.
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Please don't write placements in the topic because the enemy is salivating for that type of thing. Don't say these openly here, and go read in Azazel's section and you'll know.
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HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:25 am
Stormblood wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:04 am
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:31 pm
Some top military commanders in this world have Saturn major placements.
Saturn in the first house contribute that and other top-tier positions, if properly harnessed, right?
It requires a lot of persistence, but these are some of the hardest and strongest people if they manage to pull through. Saturn in the 1st can be a total bitch. It eases out after the 30th year of one's life most of the time.

Saturn is difficult to work around, but it overcome, can produce some of the most strong willed individuals.

Arnold Schwarzenegger had Saturn Pluto which can be a really intense aspect, both in Leo, which can be devastating for one's self confidence. Saturn was also square his Jupiter, limiting his Jupiter strongly.

Instead of allowing himself to be fucked by the aspect, he became one of the best bodybuilders on earth by excessive hard work. This is only one example of this.
Thanks for the insight. I suppose that is also especially true if someone has a Capricorn or Aquarius ascendant, other than that first house Saturn.
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This is incredibly helpful HC, you covered a lot I had been questioning at some point :)

One thing though, would bad degrees count in a similar manner as this (Saturnian) or would they follow different rules?

My understanding was that the negativity was due to things done by the enemy, and that independent of that this wouldn't actually mean anything significant or major, chart-wise. Other than tying into those specific forces numerologically.

It goes into subtleties that seem beyond us currently. I would think that if a planet was on 10, 8 or 5 degrees, this would tie it into either of the energetic patterns concerning those degrees and its features and also similar for all other 30 degrees in the realm of specifying. Would that be true?

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If I did undestand this right, ones chart is like a flow of water, you can swim faster and longer if you swim with the current,
but one can with enouth endurancer and willpower reach the top in any field or avoid any negative live events.

For instance if someones chart did indicate poverty, the person could visit a finanzial course/educate him/her in finances and avoid poverty.

Or someone should have bad teeth, if he/she would avoid bad food and did everything possibel to have good health, he/she should be fine.

This reminds me of a sort like a dissadvantage from games:

Character:

-2 money

-1 teeth health

but has for example

+ 2 endurance

+1 courage
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HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
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Sun Mar 07, 2021 9:17 pm
How To Obliterate Your Saturn by Lydia
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So then this process that Lydia detailed is still valid then yes? Because I've yet to get around to doing it and was looking forward to it. I'm assuming this process Lydia lays out will work to take all the negative aspects out of Saturn for you and that's how you benefit from it, correct?
Yes, that is an old classic. It's important Saturn's energies are dealt with. But if you understand why and how these happen, one will be more able to deal with them and/or avoid the negative consequences.
Hp, you should make a post about how jupiter can be sometimes as bad as Saturn. If not even worst by making you believe its all going to be fine while that is not the case. One example Jupiter in the 2nd house, lucky for money but you may start to over spend because that is part of jupiter energy.

One thing for me is how it makes me more interested and definitely more obssesed about sex. This has gived me more problems than good things. There are some blessings that come with it but I have understood that Jupiter needs to be su sublimated with meditation too. Jupiter is luck the kundalini in some ways, it amplifies everything, it may bring you blessings but may give you some problems too if you are not aware on how to deal with them.
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HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:41 am
Invictus wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 11:36 pm
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Sat Mar 06, 2021 8:36 pm
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I removed this as nobody needs to know. Just know that this is a very good aspect, fated, and shows a positive aspect to Saturn. It's one of the least negative in the zodiac about Saturn.

Prepare your life now so that when this happens, you get elevated and get minimal damage.
Thanks for excluding that part. I don't want these hybrid genetic catastrophes (I know they read these posts haha) to know too much about me. I didn't know I was giving too much, but I'll be more careful next time.

SO I checked my Saturn return chart and yeah :shock: …. I definitely need to study it 100%. It had all the hallmarks of fate, as you mentioned, HP.... If fate had a face, it would be my chart.

I'm glad that as a Satanist, I can have foresight and control over my life. I've learned that those that are without are pretty much screwed, dependent on the chance that things go as they hope, which can lead them into the negative side of powerful aspects.

You give great sermons/posts as always!

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In our rivers, we have strong eddies and the only way not to be dragged into the abyss of water is to dive into the center of this whirlpool and swim under water to emerge in the other side. If you try to sail away, the maelstrom will swallow you with this powerful force. This is very similar to the interaction with Saturn that you are describing.
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HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
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I've done many of these squares and at least based on my experience, they can bring more hard situations that one really needs. I did some so that I would have a measurable opinion to share in case I was asked.

But the weirdest aspect of this, is that in retrospect, years later, these things helped. But when these were through, holy shit it was really unpleasant.

It's better to not go that way. Nauthiz and other runes can do very similar work without extra crap.
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A couple years ago I was planning to do a Saturn square as it was entering its home signs, so in preparation I was focusing on the planet and getting a sense of how its energy works but I wasn't really that knowledgeable on spiritual matters.

Anyway I ended up not doing the Saturn square thankfully, however, I most likely did invoke some of its energy in some way as I started out my school year with a lot of difficulty, and almost failed a couple classes without a few miracles. I really never thought I'd be close to failing a class, and it of course demanded more time in my study which I've usually neglected. Then there were others problems that pushed me to doing more meditations, and it really had me stick to my routines like glue, and I was getting them done despite all of the time constraints I had. Then I had enough spiritual power to manifest whatever I needed done and become quite confident in my ability for a time. During the summer the nightmare was finally over, and I'm looking back feeling like that was a really good year lol.

Only problem was that someone brought the idea that if Saturn got nuked it'd bring an end to all its negative influence and the idea kinda stuck to my head for awhile but then I felt my acknowledgement to Saturns positive aspects had faded away from my life again without realizing it. But this sermon helped me remember and understand what Saturn really is, a planet of structure.
What if the Saturn Square didn't do anything negative. Both me and my girlfriend have done these I did it many times before nothing negative happened. In fact it seemed to have positive results or no results at all.
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Shadowcat wrote:
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Very insightful. i have also recently learned that saturn isnt all bad and has a good side that gives patience, endurance, stability and discipline. i also have come to theorise the peple with alot of earth in general too have more hardy bodies so to speak, better immune systems and are generally stronger and can build muscle easily. Saturn when placed properly if i recall correctly can also give one long healthy life and to age gracefully.

"death happens because more life doesn't happen"

this could not be more true especially at the cellular level. if our telomeres did not deteriorate and shorten and if our cells did not start making typos during replication, the ageing process would not happen. our cells also replicate and divide less as we get older.
In my case it could be right >:D
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Stormblood wrote:
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Saturn can explode and burn for all I care. I'll never see Saturn in any positive light or acknowledge it as being anything positive ever. You can say it rules over endurance and has positive effects sometimes, but for me its caused the most pain and suffering ever. In my 8th house with extreme poverty, no sexual partner, and no hope in sight. My teeth are decayed and must be pulled and replaced with dental implants, I have mild tinnitus, and other stuff that Saturn has caused. I just want to escape Saturn and all of its bad influences as a whole. I could make this a huge post about all the shit Saturn has caused, but id rather keep it short and simple. I don't like planet Saturn at all.
Instead of whining and wallowing, what steps have you taken to improve your living condition?
I'm working on it. Things have slowly been getting better for me, but I just wanted to vent a bit about Saturn since its one of the main sources of my problems in life. I didn't mean to cause a scene or anything like that.
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HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:38 am
slyscorpion wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:08 am
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 7:26 pm


Hatred for authority, hating on religious structures [such as jews or those of the enemy] and a non conformist nature. Strong on human rights and against violations of these rights.

On the downside, potential clashes with authority, legal troubles, hate of the law in the wrong way etc.
Is this the similar to Saturn in Sagittarius. I very much have these traits. I don't have it in the 9th house though.

On a downside though I swear this can make one deal with the enemy religions more so or be restricted by them in some way. I also think Saturn in the 9th house or sagittarius can be religious fundy people of the enemy in some cases. What your talking about is the more positive aspect of this or how it would play out in a more evolved person.
I know what you mean. But you know, it all depends on the chart too.

I've met radical atheists with Saturn in the 9th. One person I knew was a Capricorn Stellium, Saturn in the 9th, and they were the most stubborn atheist one would ever meet. They refused to believe in anything such as that even other life may exist in the universe. But in a very aggressive and forcibly non open minded way.

Unfortunately That's is correct :shock: :shock: ,i have been involved with some clashes with religious people only, it was when i were young.

I couldn't differentiate between Christians and Muslims ,i used to make fun of them,

Xians claim that Jesus walked on water , i told them bullshit ,they told their parents , and their parents
came to my mother and told her "your son is making fun of our religion"
My mom beat the shit out of me .

Muslims claim that mohammed flew from Arabia to Jerusalem by using "flying horse or donkey"
I used to laugh , i told them it's impossible, he needs engines .they told the principal about me
and he beat the shit out of me, i were humiliated.

I told my mother ,she came to school and she spited on his beard.

Religious people always wanted to touch me "pedophiles" ,Abrahamic people can't handle their balls"dick" when they see blonde blue eyed kid,.

And regarding the Jews, well, i have to say the truth they killed my grandfather in 1967 they shot him.
And yes it was sacrifice they preferred to kill the blonde blue eyed man, they didn't kill the dark ones ,
that's what my grandmother told me,his assassination was planned .

I have extreme hate toward the Jews ,i wish Hitler "getöt**" them all .
it's very annoying ,it's like Jews 1 - 0 gentile,I must take revenge , i don't know how .
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sonnenkraft wrote:
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it's very annoying ,it's like Jews 1 - 0 gentile,I must take revenge , i don't know how .
Spiritual warfare is one outlet, but your situation is so personal that maybe you should ask for Gods to help guide you to some jew which you could use black magic on to get a more personal revenge.
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In regards to squaring Saturn in synastry, if it is between SS, is contact still to be avoided?
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HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
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Frinnis wrote:
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What we have to remember is that Satan's Zodiac Signs are both Aquarius (Uranus) and Capricorn (Saturn). As He has stated, 'I both enrich and impoverish.'; when improvements are called for, he comes as Uranus as he also comes as Saturn when something needs to be torn asunder. The problem is that people are so focused on what they have crumble, Satan's words, "Let's try this again.", or, 'You will prevail', fall on deaf ears.

It just goes to show, with some very few exceptions that prove the rule, nothing is inherently bad. Just like some people think about black energy and it is only used for destruction. Well, the thing of it is they are right, but they are thinking about it in a very one dimensional fashion. Next time you want to clean your soul, try this: Use black energy but visualize it like water shimmering in moon or sun light. Seriously, I have actually been doing it for a while and I dare say that it sometimes works even better than White Gold energy.
While some things may not be "Bad" or purposefully "Evil", such as let's say the Gamma Rays of the universe, these can actually destroy humans. Some of these things are also energies such as grey energy.

Black is a tricky color to work with, and the same goes for White. This is explained in the JoS website.

Like I said, 'with very few exceptions', which was talking about grey energy with is just pure corruption; not to be confused with black that is chaos. It also goes without saying that we should protect ourselves from things that are not, 'purposefully Evil', *cough, cough* jews *cough cough*, but also seek to understand what is, 'bad' for us to understand the balance we can initiate and mould it in a way to benefit from what is good.
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In regards to squaring Saturn in synastry, if it is between SS, is contact still to be avoided?
Depends on the severity of aspects and level of people involved. Some people can be very severely incompatible with others for close relations.
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"But jeboo walked on water". Wow such miracle.

He also farted once but it was the smell of roses. Xians would be amazed at the height of these miracles from the levantine jew.

Jews are costing Gentile life all over the place in one or another way.

As for these situations, this is why Black Magick is instructed by the Gods because justice can be absent. If Muslims beat a person senseless in Europe, they will get acquited. If a White European slaps them in the face or tells them Allah is for shit, they are looking at jail time.
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Is this the similar to Saturn in Sagittarius. I very much have these traits. I don't have it in the 9th house though.

On a downside though I swear this can make one deal with the enemy religions more so or be restricted by them in some way. I also think Saturn in the 9th house or sagittarius can be religious fundy people of the enemy in some cases. What your talking about is the more positive aspect of this or how it would play out in a more evolved person.
I know what you mean. But you know, it all depends on the chart too.

I've met radical atheists with Saturn in the 9th. One person I knew was a Capricorn Stellium, Saturn in the 9th, and they were the most stubborn atheist one would ever meet. They refused to believe in anything such as that even other life may exist in the universe. But in a very aggressive and forcibly non open minded way.

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Betelgeuse wrote:
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I'm working on it. Things have slowly been getting better for me, but I just wanted to vent a bit about Saturn
That's great to hear and venting can be cathartic, provided it leaves you with clarity to improve yourself. Stay strong!
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It requires a lot of persistence, but these are some of the hardest and strongest people if they manage to pull through. Saturn in the 1st can be a total bitch. It eases out after the 30th year of one's life most of the time.

Saturn is difficult to work around, but it overcome, can produce some of the most strong willed individuals.

Arnold Schwarzenegger had Saturn Pluto which can be a really intense aspect, both in Leo, which can be devastating for one's self confidence. Saturn was also square his Jupiter, limiting his Jupiter strongly.

Instead of allowing himself to be fucked by the aspect, he became one of the best bodybuilders on earth by excessive hard work. This is only one example of this.
Isn't Saturn 1st house the most notorious for negativity as the 1st house affects all the other houses?
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HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
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Lunar Dance 666 wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 10:20 pm
In regards to squaring Saturn in synastry, if it is between SS, is contact still to be avoided?
Depends on the severity of aspects and level of people involved. Some people can be very severely incompatible with others for close relations.
This reminds me of something that I think about with certain Saturn placements and synastry - specially Saturn in the 1st House as well as Saturn in aspect to one's chart ruler. Due to Saturn being a big, slow boy, those kinds of placements in synastry can affect entire social groups, especially in one's early years which certainly seems to reflect in the childhood friendship experiences of 1st House Saturn people. It can also be observed that a number of people with these kinds of placements do tend to befriend people with a bit of an age difference. Nevertheless, it's certainly not a hard and fast rule, which leads to my asking, is it safe to assume then that such synastry placements can be sublimated into considerably positive placements when otherwise harmonious aspects are present? It feels like there's a rather obvious answer but I've been burned before assuming what I think makes sense in astrology. I can certainly see ways that harmonious Saturn aspects to another's chart ruler in synastry would be beneficial for growth.
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Saturn can be attributed to Delayed Gratification. Makes all the sense as to why the enemy constantly attacks this concept and now publicly tell the masses it is only a white race trait to see to as a good thing. They want infantile man/woman children who act like spoiled brats while under the guise of morality.
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Isn't Saturn 1st house the most notorious for negativity as the 1st house affects all the other houses?
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HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
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Stormblood wrote:
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HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
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Some top military commanders in this world have Saturn major placements.
Saturn in the first house contribute that and other top-tier position, if properly harnessed, right?
It requires a lot of persistence, but these are some of the hardest and strongest people if they manage to pull through. Saturn in the 1st can be a total bitch. It eases out after the 30th year of one's life most of the time.

Saturn is difficult to work around, but it overcome, can produce some of the most strong willed individuals.

Arnold Schwarzenegger had Saturn Pluto which can be a really intense aspect, both in Leo, which can be devastating for one's self confidence. Saturn was also square his Jupiter, limiting his Jupiter strongly.

Instead of allowing himself to be fucked by the aspect, he became one of the best bodybuilders on earth by excessive hard work. This is only one example of this.

One of the reasons I respect him is the hard work he's done. His legacy is respectable and now knowing this I give him more respect even with his faults.
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I can understand why Saturn is feared and looked down upon. Who wants to deal with hardships, right? Or even bad health if Saturn is conjunct with 6 or 8th house ruler. But in a bigger picture, there is a good light to Saturn that gets dismissed.

If it wasn't for Saturn conjunct Mars Scorpio in an angular house, I am for sure that I would be a reckless and destructive person; I have the potential for that. With Saturn, it gives me good control over Mars Scorpio. I'm much more patient, but cross my boundaries, then the dragon in me gets unleashed and that's when all hell breaks loose. I will speak my mind in a serious way that once the other person hears me out, they will not ever do it again.

If you ask me how my life has been, there are quite a few dark times marred with abuse. Saturn brought a delay in finishing higher education and health issues as well.

REGARDLESS, and I may be the minority, but I love Saturn. I mean, I have so much gratitude to Saturn. All the hardships lead me here! It gave me great wisdom throughout the years. It is the planet that sharpens my skills, my writings, my speeches, etc. I feel as though it is also a planet of spiritual initiation by first mastering the lower before we jump to the higher.

Saturn is "Keep going. Rest but don't give up. If you fall, don't worry. Itis okay, you can try again."

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Kinnaree wrote:
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REGARDLESS, and I may be the minority, but I love Saturn. I mean, I have so much gratitude to Saturn. All the hardships lead me here! It gave me great wisdom throughout the years. It is the planet that sharpens my skills, my writings, my speeches, etc. I feel as though it is also a planet of spiritual initiation by first mastering the lower before we jump to the higher.

Saturn is "Keep going. Rest but don't give up. If you fall, don't worry. Itis okay, you can try again."

With what it's worth,
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Yes, I also love Saturn. We both are only HERE because of BAD things that happend to us. If they'd never happened we both wouldn't be here, right?
And also this world will be FREE because of all those BAD things that must happen.

Become aware of Saturn, live with him, keep spirituality up, and grow with Saturn.
Saturn is strict teacher.. but strict teachers tend to have the strongest disciples!

"Keep going. Rest but don't give up. If you fall, don't worry. Itis okay, you can try again."
As long as he didn't break any legs that is.. but then while the legs recover, we can still crawl our way. Which is what we did coming here anyways. As long as you are alive, there is always room for improvement.
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hailourtruegod wrote:
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Saturn can be attributed to Delayed Gratification. Makes all the sense as to why the enemy constantly attacks this concept and now publicly tell the masses it is only a white race trait to see to as a good thing. They want infantile man/woman children who act like spoiled brats while under the guise of morality.
That is kind of what Lucifuge was talking about where people just didn't care enough to fight the enemy or put in effort to advance or better themselves. This is a psychological warfare technique being used against us to make us weak and docile. They also encourage people to care about mostly things that don't really matter much while ignoring actual things that are or might be important. Same kind of technique.
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I suppose it might as well be asked - what about Saturn in the other Houses which haven't been asked about yet?! I want to say that I don't know how Saturn being in my ... House is supposed to be teaching me something... nor what it is supposed to be teaching me... but maybe I can say that only a bit because there is something I have realised about myself which seems to be the lesson objective... but then Saturn and its teaching has been such an evil, sadistic r*pist against me in that House, I don't know what the fuck I'm supposed to be learning, because it has reduced and restricted and removed, or never provided, [that House things] so... how the fuck can I learn this lesson without having it/them to experience or use or have or whatever, to be able to learn?!! It's like I have had trickles of [that House things] and only temporarily, but then with having one [that House things] seemingly-permanently it has been so difficult and painful and wounding much of the time... It seems as if I am not "allowed" to have [that House things], or if I am, then [that House things] has/have to be shit and trolling the absolute fucking shit out of me and unrelenting in doing so, like attrition... No, I'm not exaggerating.

I rather agree with
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about Saturn, but translating Betelgeuse's words into [that House things] for me (but I have read the thread). It's a combination of, and goes back-and-forth between, :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: and :( :( :( :( and ebbs and flows a bit more and a bit less and a lot more and a lot less. Without X, or with X in a shit way, how can I learn X to better do, and to be better with/have/use/experience, X?
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sonnenkraft wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 6:58 pm
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:38 am
slyscorpion wrote:
Mon Mar 08, 2021 1:08 am


Is this the similar to Saturn in Sagittarius. I very much have these traits. I don't have it in the 9th house though.

On a downside though I swear this can make one deal with the enemy religions more so or be restricted by them in some way. I also think Saturn in the 9th house or sagittarius can be religious fundy people of the enemy in some cases. What your talking about is the more positive aspect of this or how it would play out in a more evolved person.
I know what you mean. But you know, it all depends on the chart too.

I've met radical atheists with Saturn in the 9th. One person I knew was a Capricorn Stellium, Saturn in the 9th, and they were the most stubborn atheist one would ever meet. They refused to believe in anything such as that even other life may exist in the universe. But in a very aggressive and forcibly non open minded way.

Unfortunately That's is correct :shock: :shock: ,i have been involved with some clashes with religious people only, it was when i were young.

I couldn't differentiate between Christians and Muslims ,i used to make fun of them,

Xians claim that Jesus walked on water , i told them bullshit ,they told their parents , and their parents
came to my mother and told her "your son is making fun of our religion"
My mom beat the shit out of me .

Muslims claim that mohammed flew from Arabia to Jerusalem by using "flying horse or donkey"
I used to laugh , i told them it's impossible, he needs engines .they told the principal about me
and he beat the shit out of me, i were humiliated.

I told my mother ,she came to school and she spited on his beard.

Religious people always wanted to touch me "pedophiles" ,Abrahamic people can't handle their balls"dick" when they see blonde blue eyed kid,.

And regarding the Jews, well, i have to say the truth they killed my grandfather in 1967 they shot him.
And yes it was sacrifice they preferred to kill the blonde blue eyed man, they didn't kill the dark ones ,
that's what my grandmother told me,his assassination was planned .

I have extreme hate toward the Jews ,i wish Hitler "getöt**" them all .
it's very annoying ,it's like Jews 1 - 0 gentile,I must take revenge , i don't know how .
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Mon Mar 08, 2021 2:38 am


I know what you mean. But you know, it all depends on the chart too.

I've met radical atheists with Saturn in the 9th. One person I knew was a Capricorn Stellium, Saturn in the 9th, and they were the most stubborn atheist one would ever meet. They refused to believe in anything such as that even other life may exist in the universe. But in a very aggressive and forcibly non open minded way.

Unfortunately That's is correct :shock: :shock: ,i have been involved with some clashes with religious people only, it was when i were young.

I couldn't differentiate between Christians and Muslims ,i used to make fun of them,

Xians claim that Jesus walked on water , i told them bullshit ,they told their parents , and their parents
came to my mother and told her "your son is making fun of our religion"
My mom beat the shit out of me .

Muslims claim that mohammed flew from Arabia to Jerusalem by using "flying horse or donkey"
I used to laugh , i told them it's impossible, he needs engines .they told the principal about me
and he beat the shit out of me, i were humiliated.

I told my mother ,she came to school and she spited on his beard.

Religious people always wanted to touch me "pedophiles" ,Abrahamic people can't handle their balls"dick" when they see blonde blue eyed kid,.

And regarding the Jews, well, i have to say the truth they killed my grandfather in 1967 they shot him.
And yes it was sacrifice they preferred to kill the blonde blue eyed man, they didn't kill the dark ones ,
that's what my grandmother told me,his assassination was planned .

I have extreme hate toward the Jews ,i wish Hitler "getöt**" them all .
it's very annoying ,it's like Jews 1 - 0 gentile,I must take revenge , i don't know how .
Are you Egyptian Jordanian or Syrian
wayfarer.
They tried to bury us, but they don't know we were seeds.

fighting swamp creature(( big fat worm)) & throwing it into the swamp:-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOmn9ofu_5U

I will smash all Jewish Marxist parasites skulls and throw them all into the :arrow: swamp.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brczxLKD9jY
Fake Spiritual members will be thrown into the :arrow: swamp.
https://youtu.be/1cP-5ua_n94
Jews are suffering from mental disorder,well,no one told them to be here in jos forum . :lol:
https://youtu.be/4xjj26Lux_Q?t=20
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Re: The Wisdom Of Saturn

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Betelgeuse wrote:
Sun Mar 07, 2021 2:54 pm
Saturn can explode and burn for all I care. I'll never see Saturn in any positive light or acknowledge it as being anything positive ever. You can say it rules over endurance and has positive effects sometimes, but for me its caused the most pain and suffering ever. In my 8th house with extreme poverty, no sexual partner, and no hope in sight. My teeth are decayed and must be pulled and replaced with dental implants, I have mild tinnitus, and other stuff that Saturn has caused. I just want to escape Saturn and all of its bad influences as a whole. I could make this a huge post about all the shit Saturn has caused, but id rather keep it short and simple. I don't like planet Saturn at all.
Well, if you search the forums for Lydia's posts, in fact it's probably in her status now, you'll see that she made a big post on "obliterating your Saturn".

I will you the best in resetting your karma.
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Re: The Wisdom Of Saturn

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slyscorpion wrote:
Sat Mar 13, 2021 10:58 pm
hailourtruegod wrote:
Tue Mar 09, 2021 8:56 pm
Saturn can be attributed to Delayed Gratification. Makes all the sense as to why the enemy constantly attacks this concept and now publicly tell the masses it is only a white race trait to see to as a good thing. They want infantile man/woman children who act like spoiled brats while under the guise of morality.
That is kind of what Lucifuge was talking about where people just didn't care enough to fight the enemy or put in effort to advance or better themselves. This is a psychological warfare technique being used against us to make us weak and docile. They also encourage people to care about mostly things that don't really matter much while ignoring actual things that are or might be important. Same kind of technique.
There's pushback on this. It's not just Jordan Peterson anymore telling young men to step up wash their weewees. I see less notable people saying the same and I'm having conversations with random people about how men need to start acting like men or adults acting like adults in general.

We're undoing the effectiveness of these psyops to the point regular people are starting to consciously be aware of any potential psyops.
"Concerning my own faith, I am fighting under the flag of Lucifer." -Otto Rahn

Hail Satan!!!

Ave Quetzalcoatl!

Hail The Gods and Goddesses of Hell!

National Socialism now!
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