masaradadevoted wrote:thank you for this post.I learn more from you in one post then I do from months of searching different books and forums!!!!!Thank you and pramana to you
Do you believe bhakti has any value to Satan and lilith?I mean do you believe that shaiva siddhas can create their own lokas thru prana jyoti?why wouldnt then manidvipa or kailash exist for devotees of shiva and lilith?even if you dont believe satan and lilith are actual gods but just ascended humans(I will have to disagree but respect that,though it does hurt me since I love shiva and lilith above my very self and I believe they are true allpowerful since the beginning)
from research I have learned that buddhist bodhisattvas have merely attained a baindava body and talk to their followers through shakti deha wich is immortality but that this is not moksha.the purelands they attain are created through the siddhi of Prāṇa Jyoti wich allows full mastery over the elements,and this is why tibetan gurus ,Bon dieties and other ascended masters can create their own lokas through this siddhi in the etheric plane or planes.our shaiva yogins have created such realms like gyanganj wich swami Vishuddhananda visited.if these guys can do it then surely lilith has a loka for her devotees????
I don't believe that we are just stuck on earth to fend for ourselves?
Satan and Gods don't require slavish worship. It is one's individual choice, not an obligation. (Note: Gods do want gentiles to remember them, however. They don't want humanity to forget about them, since that's why people fell into enemy traps)
One can give publicity to gods, promote or show gratitude to them through crafts such as poems, music, artworks etc or raising energy and sending it to them. They appreciate these. But these are secondary, right now their primary concern is meditation and warfare.
Satan and Lilith, and Demons are all ETs. They are not ascended humans. I suggest you read The Satanic Revelation pdf by HP Cobra.
The body you are talking about is Rainbow Body, which is an immortal soul, achieved when serpent rises. Mageson has talked about it, in a sermon titling the same.
I'm not sure about lokas. It could be something in astral plane, like astral temple. It could be referring to Orion constellation where Gods reside. It could even be allegorical for all reasons. I would stay away from the new-agey type beliefs surrounding these, like they're the physical 'ultimate destinations for the devotees', where 'they worship Gods' and 'live forever happy'.
You're talking about 'being stuck on earth' and 'fend for ourselves' as if it is despairing. (Assuming it's about being stuck on physical plane) Physical plane is as real as astral plane and other dimensions. One will always have a physical presence along with the astral one, as a mortal or a God. It is not a realistic aim to escape it.
We have to fend for ourselves. Gods are always there to help us out in need but they're not there to spoon feed. We are meditating for ourselves and fighting our war, under their guidance. Reaching a certain level where you are able to care, protect, provide for yourself without taking much help from Gods should be seen as an achievement.
I hope you go through JoS website once again. Believe me, you will learn more everytime.
And HP Mageson, thank you very much for this informative post.