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Re: Important 2019

Postby Ghost in the Machine » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:23 pm

cosmictraveler666 wrote:But what kind of system would you propose to ensure the economic and material stability of a nation? Studies on the current economic system are objective so one can't really side against them, they aren't opinions. The question that arises is: which kind of system would be optimal to replace the current one, while ensuring material stability.

There is nothing wrong with materialism (the "material things" of life, not the philosophy) since it's the pillar that supports our life. Many times here it has been confused and aligned with the judaic agenda of the enemy of removing everything spiritual, maybe on purpose aswell. And it's stupid (and sly if it was on purpose) because it's primarily us that know how innatural and repulsive is the "Shekel-ism" of the jews, both socially/spiritually, and historically.


That is something to be built upon once the current system is exposed for what it is. We can't see a thousand years in the future but the current state of the economy as it stands is we slave away for the gain of something that actually means nothing in the material realm if it weren't for any system in place. And the point of a system at all is against our spiritual origins.

Were everyone to suddenly disappear and you were the only human left on the planet, what good are bars of gold and green paper cash? What will you use it for? Most likely to wipe your ass with as it's completely meaningless as a material object without the corrupted system the jews made. You can't eat it, you can't build a shelter out of it and you can't use it as a source of any kind of energy.

You'd realize how corrupt this system is if it were to suddenly be taken away. Society has become so dependent on it that the very second everything collapses they begin starving and amassing chaos out of panic, running like a bunch of terrified ants - meanwhile the jews are laughing because it was so unbelievably simple. Removing the system in place and building a new one is going to be a very slow process that could take a few generations.

There shouldn't be any economic or 'material' stability because they shouldn't even exist. But as of now they're unfortunately a major crutch for humanity which is why we need to prevent the economy from collapsing. We're not supposed to be slaves to work like this where we waste hours of our day doing menial tasks for pieces of paper that don't actually mean jack shit.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby Zeffie of the Wind » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:26 pm

cosmictraveler666 wrote:
HP Mageson666 wrote:What is the purpose of economy and what are the psycho-social motivations of work.


So are you implying that without the money token, people wouldn't work? Possible, but I find working to be important because is a way to express your talents, and to be part of a society you are building with other people. What would you replace the workers with (blue and white collar of course)?


I dont think that's what he meant at all.

In order for society to move forward towards a money less system the motivations behind working are going to need to change from what it is now. Most people if not all people right now work to make money in order to provide for themselves and family material necessities and material desires. Removing the monetary system would mean providing the populace the daily necessities for living to be free of charge. In that case why work? Many people are born with a career meant for them as shown in one's natal chart. What would motivate them to work towards such a career? Mutual Aid and Kin altruism along with general desire for upward evolution within one's nation, race, and people. The general people need to move from only gross individualism into a more community driven mindset where we work together as a whole and move upward.

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Re: Important 2019

Postby dragon bleu 666 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:27 pm

HP Mageson666 wrote:What is the purpose of economy and what are the psycho-social motivations of work.


ensuring survival ?

i can clearly visualise this in an automated society in a sense as long as we can survive without work , why would we enslave people with money ? but in the actual world , i see the point but it would give power to the malicious people too ? ( jews apart ) or this mean people need collective intelligence first ?

By the way , i really appreciate you work too , much thanks.

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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:30 pm

dragon bleu 666 wrote:
HP Mageson666 wrote:What is the purpose of economy and what are the psycho-social motivations of work.


ensuring survival ?

i can clearly visualise this in an automated society in a sense as long as we can survive without work , why would we enslave people with money ? but in the actual world , i see the point but it would give power to the malicious people too ? ( jews apart ) or this mean people need collective intelligence first ?

By the way , i really appreciate you work too , much thanks.


Another thing to think about, if you can enslave people through the so called "Shekel", does that make you unable to enslave people through means such as "Automation", which unlike to the shekel, will be directly embed and controlled by central agencies?

Compared to the above, the world where 'money' exists, is actually far better, comparing the crippled to the cripple.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby Ghost in the Machine » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:36 pm

Automation isn't going to make itself.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:36 pm

Guys simplicity of thought is required here.

The National Socialists also had a money, it's called the Reichsmark. Yes, these bills and coins that today have the Nazi Eagle on top of them. They had also something like the Federal Reserve which they called a central bank, the Reichsbank. They didn't consider money or resource management came from the "Devil", either, by renaming the so called scapegoat source of the problem into "jew".

The situation is this has went too far and people are only speaking of one side of it, purposefully, to criminalize something on it's own and single it out and prove their points. In this example, "Money", "Materialism" and other said values. This is a christian mindset and approach to the subject. There is nothing inherently evil in any these MEANS, but only, in how it is used.

These things like "money" are essentially the carriers of the will of the users. They are tools, empty by themselves. Criminalizing "Materialism" and "Money" is as if criminalizing a hammer for breaking someone's finger, or building a house. Now as to how the holder uses this, that is another situation.

These are tools, and the person who is a magician should understand these. Different times will have different types of means.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:39 pm

Ghost in the Machine wrote:Automation isn't going to make itself.


Obviously. The irony here is that the so called "Utopian system" will arise from the fire, brimstone, suffering, and also, money chasing, of the present system.

So to pretend that the automation system is some sort of virgin that comes to save mankind of the laboring and so forth is just stupid. Neither of these systems are existentially better than one another. Actually, if now you cannot buy shit without money, in the future, you will not be able to generate anything or have access to the so called 'automated means'.

You may not be able to buy a car now, but in the so called communist future where "Cars won't matter", your car will also have a remotely controlled brain, with which, it will be able to crush you on the wall.

But at least we will buy cars right...This is the thought of those glorifying 'automation'. The cheese is seen but not the trap.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby cosmictraveler666 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:44 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
cosmictraveler666 wrote:
HP Mageson666 wrote:What is the purpose of economy and what are the psycho-social motivations of work.


So are you implying that without the money token, people wouldn't work? Possible, but I find working to be important because is a way to express your talents, and to be part of a society you are building with other people. What would you replace the workers with (blue and white collar of course)?


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I agree 100%.

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Re: Important 2019

Postby hailourtruegod » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:49 pm

cosmictraveler666 wrote:
HP Mageson666 wrote:What is the purpose of economy and what are the psycho-social motivations of work.


So are you implying that without the money token, people wouldn't work? Possible, but I find working to be important because is a way to express your talents, and to be part of a society you are building with other people. What would you replace the workers with (blue and white collar of course)?
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The motivations to work are built into humans and it was never to get a trophy (money) for it. It was based on kin altruism. We have always wanted to work and build and provide services for our fellow man because we not only know its the right thing to do but is what keeps a society of same type of species alive and strong.


You can't just look into one example of people who don't want to work because they are working at Wal-Mart doing menial shit. Because then pointing out the successful ones who are making the world better like doctors scientists etc negate that singular point. What one needs to point out here is people will work, for the right reasons and will avoid work if it consists of stacking boxes , working inside a cubicle or what have you.


You get rid of the economy and people will only work for the betterment of their own folk. The people who do the most will be the top and leader class. People who advance more spiritually naturally have better ways to lead and or better their society.

This here gives all or at least the most power to the people with only a central governing body to make sure everything is organized and running smoothly with the leading class in this spot as well to provide ideas and such from a highly spiritually advanced point of view.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:50 pm

cosmictraveler666 wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
cosmictraveler666 wrote:
So are you implying that without the money token, people wouldn't work? Possible, but I find working to be important because is a way to express your talents, and to be part of a society you are building with other people. What would you replace the workers with (blue and white collar of course)?


.....


I agree 100%.


Since people have the habit of taking things at face value, if they sound vibrant and colorful, and someone claims these are decent ideals, I will also tell you, the Arch-Communist Rabbi Baal Shem Tov, also honors automation and considers it a part of the future coming JEWISH utopia.

He also speaks of the nullification of money's existence, how it is useless or evil, and the evil of materialism, and many other things, how everything will be 'automated', too.

On that, everything will also be 'socialistic'. That is, for the few people who have survived by being forcibly converted into Judaism, and will be living by cattle from the central borg. And he is extolled by the other Rabbis who basically let you know of the UTOPIA that will come, the same UTOPIA in which the jews say there will be 2800 slaves.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby hailourtruegod » Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:56 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
cosmictraveler666 wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
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I agree 100%.


Since people have the habit of taking things at face value, if they sound vibrant and colorful, and someone claims these are decent ideals, I will also tell you, the Arch-Communist Rabbi Baal Shem Tov, also honors automation and considers it a part of the future coming JEWISH utopia.

He also speaks of the nullification of money's existence, how it is useless or evil, and the evil of materialism, and many other things, how everything will be 'automated', too.

On that, everything will also be 'socialistic'. That is, for the few people who have survived by being forcibly converted into Judaism, and will be living by cattle from the central borg. And he is extolled by the other Rabbis who basically let you know of the UTOPIA that will come, the same UTOPIA in which the jews say there will be 2800 slaves.




I agree that people shouldn't take things at face value. That's the problem with most communist or leftist in general. They are fooled with pretty words and get upset when you point this out.


What has to happen here and outside of here is detailed explanation and deep evaluation of what is being proposed.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby dragon bleu 666 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:00 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Ghost in the Machine wrote:Automation isn't going to make itself.


Obviously. The irony here is that the so called "Utopian system" will arise from the fire, brimstone, suffering, and also, money chasing, of the present system.

So to pretend that the automation system is some sort of virgin that comes to save mankind of the laboring and so forth is just stupid. Neither of these systems are existentially better than one another. Actually, if now you cannot buy shit without money, in the future, you will not be able to generate anything or have access to the so called 'automated means'.

You may not be able to buy a car now, but in the so called communist future where "Cars won't matter", your car will also have a remotely controlled brain, with which, it will be able to crush you on the wall.

But at least we will buy cars right...This is the thought of those glorifying 'automation'. The cheese is seen but not the trap.


i myself think of automation more like a leverage of news possibility ( like medical, space research transport and other fantasy .. ). more than acquiring cars and drones ,
i don't think it will make itslef but this is the world we are going into no ? i mean on a humanity scale
so i think it would be preferable to take in consideration what is going to happen ,

In the end what matters is if the buggers are in whatever the system it will be rotten.

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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:04 pm

hailourtruegod wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
cosmictraveler666 wrote:
I agree 100%.


Since people have the habit of taking things at face value, if they sound vibrant and colorful, and someone claims these are decent ideals, I will also tell you, the Arch-Communist Rabbi Baal Shem Tov, also honors automation and considers it a part of the future coming JEWISH utopia.

He also speaks of the nullification of money's existence, how it is useless or evil, and the evil of materialism, and many other things, how everything will be 'automated', too.

On that, everything will also be 'socialistic'. That is, for the few people who have survived by being forcibly converted into Judaism, and will be living by cattle from the central borg. And he is extolled by the other Rabbis who basically let you know of the UTOPIA that will come, the same UTOPIA in which the jews say there will be 2800 slaves.


I agree that people shouldn't take things at face value. That's the problem with most communist or leftist in general. They are fooled with pretty words and get upset when you point this out.

What has to happen here and outside of here is detailed explanation and deep evaluation of what is being proposed.


Guys seriously, do you believe there is a thing like a proposition for this? The situation of 'finances' is nothing else than a situation manifesting power distribution in life.

Every 'theory' always has loose ends in that regard. To foolishly sit down and try to enforce points about reality, when one is not yet defining reality, just to give people some kool aid to drink about meanwhile and prove they have a huge brain, shows smallness of brain.

I can write you a lot on how the system of the Gods is, but I know it's not necessary. Since, not only this gives ideas to the enemy on what things to say in order to induce people under their shit (such as they did with many other ideals) but also, because if one is focusing on superficial things they are also losing the actual thing which is the here and now, which let me tell, defines your life right now.

Preparing for a world, especially FINANCIALLY, that doesn't exist, simply because someone tells you "THIS IS HOW IT IS GOING TO BE" is like preparing for the christian afterlife.

The jews clearly are not caring about 'money'. Unlike you here, they are beyond money, as they have mastered their own tool. Yet, people think that by removing the tool, the jew will suddenly collapse. The jew himself wants to remove the very tool as it's use is obsolete, which is why they are planning and attempting economic collapse.

Go read Goebbel's speeches and you will understand everything directly, without the need to cite jews and pretend this is some sort of modernization to what is an permanent problem. It has already been cleared up in 1930, and one does not need to cite jews to prove their points.

The alt-right is attacked, but if we are to quote jews, then let's also quote the Bell Curve and other jewish science in order to prove our points.

The jews would kill you with a toy sword if they could and enslave you with it. They use money now. Tommorow, they will use automation factories. After that, gamma rays. If they could, they would use nukes. They even use water now by contaminating it to ruin your pineal gland.

Do you therefore need me to write extensive posts about how Water is evil, and how it has to be abolished, since the very nature of water is liable to contamination? Then what is the outcome, you stop drinking water until you find the prescribed filter by me for such, your mighty "Doctor" who knows all? Or malform your whole life in wait for the promised filter?
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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:49 pm

dragon bleu 666 wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Ghost in the Machine wrote:Automation isn't going to make itself.


Obviously. The irony here is that the so called "Utopian system" will arise from the fire, brimstone, suffering, and also, money chasing, of the present system.

So to pretend that the automation system is some sort of virgin that comes to save mankind of the laboring and so forth is just stupid. Neither of these systems are existentially better than one another. Actually, if now you cannot buy shit without money, in the future, you will not be able to generate anything or have access to the so called 'automated means'.

You may not be able to buy a car now, but in the so called communist future where "Cars won't matter", your car will also have a remotely controlled brain, with which, it will be able to crush you on the wall.

But at least we will buy cars right...This is the thought of those glorifying 'automation'. The cheese is seen but not the trap.


i myself think of automation more like a leverage of news possibility ( like medical, space research transport and other fantasy .. ). more than acquiring cars and drones ,
i don't think it will make itslef but this is the world we are going into no ? i mean on a humanity scale
so i think it would be preferable to take in consideration what is going to happen ,

In the end what matters is if the buggers are in whatever the system it will be rotten.


Golden systems are created when you have Golden people, then you have a Golden Age.

It's really that simple. Lay the magna carta and show it to the world's shittiest people and you will only have shit in the end. Your points can be great or not great, it doesn't matter.

You can have the worst points like Capitalism does, and put them on top of places like Europe, where people are decent, and you never get all this boundless exploitation and cutthroat destruction of everyone.

I will give you an example of why "Automation" is just fancy colored shit.

Any crime can happen with "Automation" and nobody will ever get direct blame. For example, your automatic robot surgeon, programmed or hacked by someone, can kill you during surgery. But nobody will go to any jail. They did not commit the crime, the automated "AI" did.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby dragon bleu 666 » Fri Dec 28, 2018 11:25 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
dragon bleu 666 wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Obviously. The irony here is that the so called "Utopian system" will arise from the fire, brimstone, suffering, and also, money chasing, of the present system.

So to pretend that the automation system is some sort of virgin that comes to save mankind of the laboring and so forth is just stupid. Neither of these systems are existentially better than one another. Actually, if now you cannot buy shit without money, in the future, you will not be able to generate anything or have access to the so called 'automated means'.

You may not be able to buy a car now, but in the so called communist future where "Cars won't matter", your car will also have a remotely controlled brain, with which, it will be able to crush you on the wall.

But at least we will buy cars right...This is the thought of those glorifying 'automation'. The cheese is seen but not the trap.


i myself think of automation more like a leverage of news possibility ( like medical, space research transport and other fantasy .. ). more than acquiring cars and drones ,
i don't think it will make itslef but this is the world we are going into no ? i mean on a humanity scale
so i think it would be preferable to take in consideration what is going to happen ,

In the end what matters is if the buggers are in whatever the system it will be rotten.


Golden systems are created when you have Golden people, then you have a Golden Age.

It's really that simple. Lay the magna carta and show it to the world's shittiest people and you will only have shit in the end. Your points can be great or not great, it doesn't matter.

You can have the worst points like Capitalism does, and put them on top of places like Europe, where people are decent, and you never get all this boundless exploitation and cutthroat destruction of everyone.

I will give you an example of why "Automation" is just fancy colored shit.

Any crime can happen with "Automation" and nobody will ever get direct blame. For example, your automatic robot surgeon, programmed or hacked by someone, can kill you during surgery. But nobody will go to any jail. They did not commit the crime, the automated "AI" did.


well, and that's the problem , whatever is the system we need to level up the humanity spiritually,

which means our work and priority here ( Final rtr , activism).

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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP Mageson666 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:11 am

Guys many of you figured it out people need to work for fulfillment and that means happiness. Economy is the means of production and distribution of the services and goods a nation needs to survive and do well. From luxury items to basic needs.

People point at the welfare types who are dispossed from their own society and demoralized from the structural violence of the capitalist system. But they never point to the fact the majority of the super rich are vampires who never worked for any money. They set themselves up in positons to steal by usury, stocks holding, middle men and such and just suck the fruits of a nations work into their pockets. That is the economic model of juadism.

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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP Mageson666 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:20 am

Also the Third Reich was not in the position for automation the technology was not there. They still required human labour. However Hitler also held back use of existing tech just to get the economy moving with man power. It was the situation he was pragmatic. We didn't have the ability to go full automation till the sometime in the 1980's. We would have had it earlier if not for the destruction of the Reich. The Reich created the first computers, rocket science and many other technologies.


Study history we are living in the 1960's with computers. We have been held back for a reason.


However the Nazi's were looking to create free energy for the Reich and then distribute this around the world. That shows the direction things where moving in. One of the biggest industries on earth is the jewish energy monopolies.

That's the reason we couldn't just take new solar panels and put them on everyone's homes and put this into a local grid and have free, clean energy for the entire nation. The two most important technologies they have held us back on is energy and medical.

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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP Mageson666 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 1:43 am

That is also why Marxism is State Capitalist its just a bunch of jews sitting around stealing off everyone. The lesson is you can't let jews into anything or they will jew you. The Nazi's won because they were anti-Semitic that's a big reason the hate them so much. They showed everyone has awesome a nation is when you don't have jews or jewish systems within it. I had family from England that spent a lot of time in Nazi Germany before the war visiting. They loved it and even after the war always talked about how awesome that place was during Hitler.

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Re: Important 2019

Postby Jack » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:38 am

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Guys simplicity of thought is required here.

The National Socialists also had a money, it's called the Reichsmark. Yes, these bills and coins that today have the Nazi Eagle on top of them. They had also something like the Federal Reserve which they called a central bank, the Reichsbank. They didn't consider money or resource management came from the "Devil", either, by renaming the so called scapegoat source of the problem into "jew".

The situation is this has went too far and people are only speaking of one side of it, purposefully, to criminalize something on it's own and single it out and prove their points. In this example, "Money", "Materialism" and other said values. This is a christian mindset and approach to the subject. There is nothing inherently evil in any these MEANS, but only, in how it is used.

These things like "money" are essentially the carriers of the will of the users. They are tools, empty by themselves. Criminalizing "Materialism" and "Money" is as if criminalizing a hammer for breaking someone's finger, or building a house. Now as to how the holder uses this, that is another situation.

These are tools, and the person who is a magician should understand these. Different times will have different types of means.

They eliminated the Jewish shareholders and fractionates away from the global economy towards their own currency. They made a few deals with some south american companies and went towards autarky. They banned economic global competition. Their central bank was like the antithesis of a central bank.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 2:53 am

Jack wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:They eliminated the Jewish shareholders and fractionates away from the global economy towards their own currency. They made a few deals with some south american companies and went towards autarky. They banned economic global competition. Their central bank was like the antithesis of a central bank.


They were not jews, so the way they used these means, weren't jewish. It's really that simple.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby Jack » Sat Dec 29, 2018 3:01 am

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
dragon bleu 666 wrote:...


Golden systems are created when you have Golden people, then you have a Golden Age.

It's really that simple. Lay the magna carta and show it to the world's shittiest people and you will only have shit in the end. Your points can be great or not great, it doesn't matter.

You can have the worst points like Capitalism does, and put them on top of places like Europe, where people are decent, and you never get all this boundless exploitation and cutthroat destruction of everyone.

I will give you an example of why "Automation" is just fancy colored shit.

Any crime can happen with "Automation" and nobody will ever get direct blame. For example, your automatic robot surgeon, programmed or hacked by someone, can kill you during surgery. But nobody will go to any jail. They did not commit the crime, the automated "AI" did.

Probably why Mutual Aid kinds of autarkian golden age type systems cannot be implemented now. Because people are disconnected from each other as they're not spiritually open. They cannot understand each other and are concealed in the small worlds within themselves unable to connect with each other. Having greed and apathy of their fellow man this kind of gift Economy won't sit well with them. The elimination of the Jews permanently from the world would first open doors to any kind of global understanding and spiritual development and then we can move on towards any system with understanding and mutual understanding of each other.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP Mageson666 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:56 am

That's a major reason the Nazi's wanted free energy for Germany they didn't have any oil of their own they depended mainly on Romania which is why Stalin planned his attack for the Romanian's oil fields. The Soviet taking of two provinces of Romania in the summer of 1940 is what alerted the German's to Stalin's plan. The German High Command where busy fighting in France and where panicked to find hundreds of Soviet tanks where heading towards the oil fields. That's when from the Soviet archives Hitler stated talking about "The Russian Problem".

If you study the reality of an autarky in a nation like Germany and the economic labour based economy they ran on. They would need high technology to become an autarky to the extreme level. This would mean also strict regulations of goods and services this would create a situation if they couldn't trade on the markets internationally they would have to limit production levels solely for Germany to maintain production of many services for this would take extreme planned obsolesce which I doubt they would go or Nationalization of major industries or never ending corporate welfare. To make up for lack of need production. The high level of tech would probably open the way for automation.


Given the function of the German economy under the National Socialists and what an autarky would take. You can believe they would be forced off the monetary standard at some point it wouldn't be feasible to maintain it. Look at how many nations economically fall apart if they get embargo's what does that tell you about the realities of the monetary system. For nations it depends on international markets just to maintain the higher levels of production to keep all the jobs going.

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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP Mageson666 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 6:22 am

The problem with money is highlighted in the work "Faust" it creates an aberrant situation in the human psychological make up. Take a look at one situation.


A person wants to have certain things its vital to nature to have such. A major one. That is social status this is normally driven by contribution to society with altruist motivations and talents that gains one respect of their community and peers and creates positive role models for the community to follow and improves society. People have a part in their brain that is based on just status understanding.

In this society money is the key to status and all desires. So people will do whatever they need for money and the system of money is set up for the most psychopathic methods and thus individuals to win this is documented in the reality of the "Corporate Psychopath" the population demographic's on psychopaths show psychopathology is in the some of the highest levels in the corporate sector. Psychopaths lack empathy and when empathy is removed there is nothing a person can't do. This allows the worst criminals to rise to the top of society and gain the most status and become the role models for society. This continues an intergeneration trend and pushed the Marketing world of Wall Street into the picture they need to manipulate the population into the psychological perception that allows for maximum consumption of products and services and thus make the population into consumers. And make the maximum profits. This creates the higher demand for goods and services that couldn't exist without transforming the population into the required psychology which is studied on Wall Street and created In Madison Ave to maintain this. And the psychology they require for this is the value system of a human who views their person status and others in society by how money luxury items they have the money to consume.

When you understand the monetary system of capitalism could not surivie without this model of life......The extreme amount of structural violence this causes.

An example of the casualties of this structural violence of the market place economy. The Cigarette's companies wanted to get people into their product so used marketing to transformed the desire for ones own need for status into smoking cigarette's and this now kills half a million America's a year.

This allow makes for the market place to hundreds of millions of dollars and the Medical industries trillions. There is no money or industry or jobs in getting people to quit smoking.

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Re: Important 2019

Postby Jack » Sat Dec 29, 2018 11:41 am

HP Mageson666 wrote:The problem with money is highlighted in the work "Faust" it creates an aberrant situation in the human psychological make up. Take a look at one situation.


A person wants to have certain things its vital to nature to have such. A major one. That is social status this is normally driven by contribution to society with altruist motivations and talents that gains one respect of their community and peers and creates positive role models for the community to follow and improves society. People have a part in their brain that is based on just status understanding.

In this society money is the key to status and all desires. So people will do whatever they need for money and the system of money is set up for the most psychopathic methods and thus individuals to win this is documented in the reality of the "Corporate Psychopath" the population demographic's on psychopaths show psychopathology is in the some of the highest levels in the corporate sector. Psychopaths lack empathy and when empathy is removed there is nothing a person can't do. This allows the worst criminals to rise to the top of society and gain the most status and become the role models for society. This continues an intergeneration trend and pushed the Marketing world of Wall Street into the picture they need to manipulate the population into the psychological perception that allows for maximum consumption of products and services and thus make the population into consumers. And make the maximum profits. This creates the higher demand for goods and services that couldn't exist without transforming the population into the required psychology which is studied on Wall Street and created In Madison Ave to maintain this. And the psychology they require for this is the value system of a human who views their person status and others in society by how money luxury items they have the money to consume.

When you understand the monetary system of capitalism could not surivie without this model of life......The extreme amount of structural violence this causes.

An example of the casualties of this structural violence of the market place economy. The Cigarette's companies wanted to get people into their product so used marketing to transformed the desire for ones own need for status into smoking cigarette's and this now kills half a million America's a year.

This allow makes for the market place to hundreds of millions of dollars and the Medical industries trillions. There is no money or industry or jobs in getting people to quit smoking.

A very sad fact of our time
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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP Mageson666 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 5:38 pm

Anyway guys we need to stick to activism discussion and motivation team work here. Several of you form up into teams that can work social media together and develop a method of messaging each other to be able to come together and do this the ability of several or more people working comments sways the readers and dominates the debate and just has a greater impression its basic human psychology. This is why we need memes as well the image speaks the words.

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Re: Important 2019

Postby Artanis » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:38 pm

HP Mageson666 wrote:Anyway guys we need to stick to activism discussion and motivation team work here. Several of you form up into teams that can work social media together and develop a method of messaging each other to be able to come together and do this the ability of several or more people working comments sways the readers and dominates the debate and just has a greater impression its basic human psychology. This is why we need memes as well the image speaks the words.



Well i had a thought... Could you make an topic discussion page(like the ´important articles from JoS Ministry`) titled ´Online Warfare Board`, where people could team up with each other and do ´missions`, like going to one website, or to a few videos on YT or for Twitter to share Joy of Satan links etc etc, anything which could help spread the Truth.

Just a thought, but i think that the Family(Brothers and Sisters) would LOVE it. :D :D
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Re: Important 2019

Postby Artanis » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:49 pm

Well anyways, contact me if you want to start up a team. Im willing to take part in it, as have not taken part into ANY kind of online warfare in a LOOOOOONG time :roll: :roll:

[email protected]
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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 7:55 pm

Artanis wrote:
HP Mageson666 wrote:Anyway guys we need to stick to activism discussion and motivation team work here. Several of you form up into teams that can work social media together and develop a method of messaging each other to be able to come together and do this the ability of several or more people working comments sways the readers and dominates the debate and just has a greater impression its basic human psychology. This is why we need memes as well the image speaks the words.



Well i had a thought... Could you make an topic discussion page(like the ´important articles from JoS Ministry`) titled ´Online Warfare Board`, where people could team up with each other and do ´missions`, like going to one website, or to a few videos on YT or for Twitter to share Joy of Satan links etc etc, anything which could help spread the Truth.

Just a thought, but i think that the Family(Brothers and Sisters) would LOVE it. :D :D


I will write you instructions and help you organize here. This is a topic of my next post. Then we can have a board for this type of work activism.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby Darksage666 » Sat Dec 29, 2018 8:49 pm

Artanis wrote:Well anyways, contact me if you want to start up a team. Im willing to take part in it, as have not taken part into ANY kind of online warfare in a LOOOOOONG time :roll: :roll:

[email protected]


I am up for this too guys.

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Re: Important 2019

Postby NinRick » Sun Dec 30, 2018 1:06 am

Aye guys I am all fired up!
Well I had an idea...
I will try to convince some Youtubers into making a video about „true Spirituality aka Spiritual Satanism“
It would have more effect than a mere comment.
So I try to convince guys who are making occult, spiritual or ancient content. Like „Beyond Science“
If any Youtuber (who has preferably many viewers) try to convince him/her aswell?

If you want to team up on this feel free to send me an email Brothers and Sisters

Also we could roam through Groups on Facebook and other social media and start a lit discussion about JoS etc. and dominate it so people will believe the picture of JoS / SS we create there.

[email protected]

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Re: Important 2019

Postby Peaceking » Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:21 am

I would personally appreciate it if we(Satanic Brothers & Sisters who can develop websites) could create a very powerful awakening blog to bring back Spiritual Satanism back to Earth... :idea:
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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:29 am

NinRick wrote:Aye guys I am all fired up!
Well I had an idea...
I will try to convince some Youtubers into making a video about „true Spirituality aka Spiritual Satanism“
It would have more effect than a mere comment.
So I try to convince guys who are making occult, spiritual or ancient content. Like „Beyond Science“
If any Youtuber (who has preferably many viewers) try to convince him/her aswell?

If you want to team up on this feel free to send me an email Brothers and Sisters

Also we could roam through Groups on Facebook and other social media and start a lit discussion about JoS etc. and dominate it so people will believe the picture of JoS / SS we create there.

[email protected]

HAIL SATAN!


Just do NOT put any of your personal faces up or info up there in jewbook or anywhere else while discussing these subjects.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby Astralnaut » Sun Dec 30, 2018 9:40 am

HP Mageson666 wrote:Anyway guys we need to stick to activism discussion and motivation team work here. Several of you form up into teams that can work social media together and develop a method of messaging each other to be able to come together and do this the ability of several or more people working comments sways the readers and dominates the debate and just has a greater impression its basic human psychology. This is why we need memes as well the image speaks the words.


This is kind of what I was trying to get at in my post about Memetic warfare and shirts with messages. By associating the symbol with the word it can be very subliminal if caught out of ones peripheral vision and might not be enough to influence them immediately, but later on down the line when the JOS become mainstream it could be the difference between a SS or xtian.

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Re: Important 2019

Postby NinRick » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:28 am

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
NinRick wrote:Aye guys I am all fired up!
Well I had an idea...
I will try to convince some Youtubers into making a video about „true Spirituality aka Spiritual Satanism“
It would have more effect than a mere comment.
So I try to convince guys who are making occult, spiritual or ancient content. Like „Beyond Science“
If any Youtuber (who has preferably many viewers) try to convince him/her aswell?

If you want to team up on this feel free to send me an email Brothers and Sisters

Also we could roam through Groups on Facebook and other social media and start a lit discussion about JoS etc. and dominate it so people will believe the picture of JoS / SS we create there.

[email protected]

HAIL SATAN!


Just do NOT put any of your personal faces up or info up there in jewbook or anywhere else while discussing these subjects.


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Re: Important 2019

Postby luis » Sun Dec 30, 2018 11:40 am

Astralnaut wrote:
HP Mageson666 wrote:Anyway guys we need to stick to activism discussion and motivation team work here. Several of you form up into teams that can work social media together and develop a method of messaging each other to be able to come together and do this the ability of several or more people working comments sways the readers and dominates the debate and just has a greater impression its basic human psychology. This is why we need memes as well the image speaks the words.


This is kind of what I was trying to get at in my post about Memetic warfare and shirts with messages. By associating the symbol with the word it can be very subliminal if caught out of ones peripheral vision and might not be enough to influence them immediately, but later on down the line when the JOS become mainstream it could be the difference between a SS or xtian.

Getting the Jos to the mainstream is the goal i think, the only problem would be infiltrators and we should be careful about them. What about having pages on the main social network's? I know they are bad but in this way we could attract more and more people's...we could post quotes from the Jos and link to the sites, the only problem is that they could get banned :/

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Re: Important 2019

Postby Artanis » Sun Dec 30, 2018 12:33 pm

HP Mageson666 wrote:Anyway guys we need to stick to activism discussion and motivation team work here. Several of you form up into teams that can work social media together and develop a method of messaging each other to be able to come together and do this the ability of several or more people working comments sways the readers and dominates the debate and just has a greater impression its basic human psychology. This is why we need memes as well the image speaks the words.


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´Fine with me. You would be the first SS in almost a decade who I will be seeing. I was in a coven in my teens for a very short period, but the group got dismantle when we allowed a jew in. This was before Hps Maxine Dietrich came forward with NS. There are other Satanists in the area where we both know we are Satanists, but they ignore me entirely out of envy. I am actually the reason Hps Maxine and Mageson started the thread on Satanic Unity.

It has been so long. I am glad I finally get to interact with an SS. My name Is Leon. I'm really into astrology so if your into this as well I can teach you some things and show you events that have occurred in my life and the astrological reasons for it.`


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Re: Important 2019

Postby layton18000 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 2:41 pm

I would like to create an Instagram page about Spiritual Satanism in English and in Italian. Having an IG page it's something I have already done twice and I know I can do it. Do you think it's a good idea? It wouldn't be JoS page, but an info page about our Religion, whose aim is, obviously, allowing people to know about us.

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Re: Important 2019

Postby Astralnaut » Sun Dec 30, 2018 3:14 pm

My e-mail is [email protected] in case anyone want to work with me. I have already contacted Artanis, but we feel as though it would be better if we had more members participate. I feel like 3 should be the minimum for this kind of thing.

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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:23 pm

Keep the organizing here, not randomly around in e-mails and enemy platforms. Open topics if you want for this on the forum.

This way it can be avoided what it has already began with infiltrators sticking out their nose and as always derailing what needs to be done with this.

Instead of trying to use the platforms of the enemy there is a platform you can use here to organize these efforts.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby Astralnaut » Sun Dec 30, 2018 4:45 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Keep the organizing here, not randomly around in e-mails and enemy platforms. Open topics if you want for this on the forum.

This way it can be avoided what it has already began with infiltrators sticking out their nose and as always derailing what needs to be done with this.

Instead of trying to use the platforms of the enemy there is a platform you can use here to organize these efforts.


For the most part I agree, but I feel as though certain operations would require more secrecy, but I guess I'll leave that in the future. Artanus and I were thinking of going onto the comments section prominant xtian youtube videos, as well as xtian forums, and play both sides against the middle where half of us pretend to be xtian, and the other half being SS. We would create a dialectic where we slowly ease the pretending xtians onto our side thereby causing any actual xtians to get discouraged and lose faith.

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Re: Important 2019

Postby Jack » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:21 pm

Astralnaut wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Keep the organizing here, not randomly around in e-mails and enemy platforms. Open topics if you want for this on the forum.

This way it can be avoided what it has already began with infiltrators sticking out their nose and as always derailing what needs to be done with this.

Instead of trying to use the platforms of the enemy there is a platform you can use here to organize these efforts.


For the most part I agree, but I feel as though certain operations would require more secrecy, but I guess I'll leave that in the future. Artanus and I were thinking of going onto the comments section prominant xtian youtube videos, as well as xtian forums, and play both sides against the middle where half of us pretend to be xtian, and the other half being SS. We would create a dialectic where we slowly ease the pretending xtians onto our side thereby causing any actual xtians to get discouraged and lose faith.

Nice strategy. Have you tested it in the field
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Re: Important 2019

Postby Artanis » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:28 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Keep the organizing here, not randomly around in e-mails and enemy platforms. Open topics if you want for this on the forum.

This way it can be avoided what it has already began with infiltrators sticking out their nose and as always derailing what needs to be done with this.

Instead of trying to use the platforms of the enemy there is a platform you can use here to organize these efforts.



And through live-chat (an extremely small one, so that one with enough spiritual power like Brother Astralnaut, could snuff out the infiltrators easily), it would have been much easier to be organized.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby Artanis » Sun Dec 30, 2018 5:30 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Keep the organizing here, not randomly around in e-mails and enemy platforms. Open topics if you want for this on the forum.

This way it can be avoided what it has already began with infiltrators sticking out their nose and as always derailing what needs to be done with this.

Instead of trying to use the platforms of the enemy there is a platform you can use here to organize these efforts.



Just dont know how we are going to be in secrecy and organized if the Enemy could easily read our posts in here. But now again, they could just as easily read our text messages in apps like Skype or Whatsupp so :roll: :lol:
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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:09 pm

Astralnaut wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Keep the organizing here, not randomly around in e-mails and enemy platforms. Open topics if you want for this on the forum.

This way it can be avoided what it has already began with infiltrators sticking out their nose and as always derailing what needs to be done with this.

Instead of trying to use the platforms of the enemy there is a platform you can use here to organize these efforts.


For the most part I agree, but I feel as though certain operations would require more secrecy, but I guess I'll leave that in the future. Artanus and I were thinking of going onto the comments section prominant xtian youtube videos, as well as xtian forums, and play both sides against the middle where half of us pretend to be xtian, and the other half being SS. We would create a dialectic where we slowly ease the pretending xtians onto our side thereby causing any actual xtians to get discouraged and lose faith.


For the most part I disagree, as you have already been sending weird mails to people which have nothing to do with any form of 'warfare', including other reported things from others. Is this part of the Top Secret files here?

If this thing is supposed to backtrack anyone and make everyone waste their time, it's better to engage all this lost time elsewhere, for example, in something that is effective.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby HP. Hoodedcobra666 » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:14 pm

Artanis wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Keep the organizing here, not randomly around in e-mails and enemy platforms. Open topics if you want for this on the forum.

This way it can be avoided what it has already began with infiltrators sticking out their nose and as always derailing what needs to be done with this.

Instead of trying to use the platforms of the enemy there is a platform you can use here to organize these efforts.


And through live-chat (an extremely small one, so that one with enough spiritual power like Brother Astralnaut, could snuff out the infiltrators easily), it would have been much easier to be organized.


I wonder why everytime someone has to pop up and form a cult around these projects based on professed secrecy, while their purpose is just very clear: Do internet activism.

You aren't trying to come up with alien invasions to other planets or hacking NASA's satellites guys, relax. It's activism that is being done. Just open some topics here and you can operate, as you see fit or require best. Others have already done this. Or we can open a specific sub forum.

Plus, other people can learn from successes and failures etc.
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Re: Important 2019

Postby Artanis » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:21 pm

HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
Artanis wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Keep the organizing here, not randomly around in e-mails and enemy platforms. Open topics if you want for this on the forum.

This way it can be avoided what it has already began with infiltrators sticking out their nose and as always derailing what needs to be done with this.

Instead of trying to use the platforms of the enemy there is a platform you can use here to organize these efforts.


And through live-chat (an extremely small one, so that one with enough spiritual power like Brother Astralnaut, could snuff out the infiltrators easily), it would have been much easier to be organized.


I wonder why everytime someone has to pop up and form a cult around these projects based on professed secrecy, while their purpose is just very clear: Do internet activism.

You aren't trying to come up with alien invasions to other planets or hacking NASA's satellites guys, relax. It's activism that is being done. Just open some topics here and you can operate, as you see fit or require best. Others have already done this. Or we can open a specific sub forum.

Plus, other people can learn from successes and failures etc.



Well yeah. That Sub-forum would be the best solution. We could always go and post links on videos or websites and maybe time of day when we would go and share links or something. Just saying that if we could be more organized in this, we could be MUCH more efficient. :?
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Re: Important 2019

Postby Astralnaut » Sun Dec 30, 2018 7:07 pm

Jack wrote:
Astralnaut wrote:
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:Keep the organizing here, not randomly around in e-mails and enemy platforms. Open topics if you want for this on the forum.

This way it can be avoided what it has already began with infiltrators sticking out their nose and as always derailing what needs to be done with this.

Instead of trying to use the platforms of the enemy there is a platform you can use here to organize these efforts.


For the most part I agree, but I feel as though certain operations would require more secrecy, but I guess I'll leave that in the future. Artanus and I were thinking of going onto the comments section prominant xtian youtube videos, as well as xtian forums, and play both sides against the middle where half of us pretend to be xtian, and the other half being SS. We would create a dialectic where we slowly ease the pretending xtians onto our side thereby causing any actual xtians to get discouraged and lose faith.

Nice strategy. Have you tested it in the field


Playing both sides against the middle? Yes, but not like mentioned above. I pretended to be xtian on xtian forums years ago and promoted the JOS website by acting against it. Eventually once the threads got to thousands of views and I kept bumping it up they seem to have started to notice.

hailourtruegod
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Re: Important 2019

Postby hailourtruegod » Mon Dec 31, 2018 6:56 am

We already have a thread where someone can post links to videos on utoob so we can leave comments on those videos.

"What Today Needs"

As for other platforms we can just make a new thread or use the same one and leave links to a conversation or a post where we can leave comments or likes or any support.

We've had groups outside of here do this but they have always led to infiltrators joining or the egotistical ones who ran them try to make a cult out of it. Suddenly acting like kings or queens just because they created the room for us to leave links. lol. I've witnessed this myself and i know others here have as well.

It's not that hard to just post here in the forums and ask us to leave comments, likes, retweets or what have you. If you already know people outside of here who are SS then cool you guys can figure out what to do with that situation but this isn't an excuse to go and try to socialize. This is about important work. Trying to wake people up.


Even if the enemy looks at the forums here and go to these links and act like they are one of us and start making us look bad then it's up to us to point these trolls out. Just write that people should ignore "name of troll". That's it.

Thats just my opinion tho.
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cosmictraveler666
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Re: Important 2019

Postby cosmictraveler666 » Tue Jan 01, 2019 2:31 pm

From my direct experience (and real life) are historical facts that triumph in a discussion and the reasons are simple: 1) Historical facts (but obviously linguistic and religious facts aswell), thanks to their objective nature, are firm and they aren't subject to intepretation. Ipse dixit. Obviously, only if your sources are serious. This blocks the moralistic rhetorics and various tricks aimed to "put the words in your mouth" and to trap you in your opponent's argument and rhetoric. It also serves to shut the mouth of stupid christians (or communists/leftists) who start defending themselves with bible quotes (or jew propaganda) while trying to apply to them a fictious value of truth, making them look stupid in front of the public.
Therefore I believe that we should improve our system of sources, by creating a fluid, clear and organized apparatus where members can get to the sources/documents fast, and by making sure that they are authoritative and well recognised academically (from history to linguistics, everything). They must not appear as random things on the internet (they don't lol, but to many, they could).

2) People need to know things to have a better and new understanding of everything. Our activism should open the mind of people by giving them the knowledge to build more awareness of things and the current world, breaking walls. Now, I don't criticize who does this, but you will all understand how a direct contact and conversation with someone is way better than dropping an anonymous link. Links are good, fast and practical, people are curious and work. But I'm saying that there should be both, especially if we have to care about our relation with the public.
Meaning, if you pop up and scream: SATANISM IS REAL THE RELIGION OF HUMANITY (and link), this looks something out of jw.org. While a conversation supported by a better culture than your opponent's looks refined, classy, and you gain points in front of the readers. Everyone of our brothers should master the writings and informations the HPs publish.

luis
Posts: 1864

Re: Important 2019

Postby luis » Tue Jan 01, 2019 6:43 pm

Artanis wrote:
HP Mageson666 wrote:Anyway guys we need to stick to activism discussion and motivation team work here. Several of you form up into teams that can work social media together and develop a method of messaging each other to be able to come together and do this the ability of several or more people working comments sways the readers and dominates the debate and just has a greater impression its basic human psychology. This is why we need memes as well the image speaks the words.


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´Fine with me. You would be the first SS in almost a decade who I will be seeing. I was in a coven in my teens for a very short period, but the group got dismantle when we allowed a jew in. This was before Hps Maxine Dietrich came forward with NS. There are other Satanists in the area where we both know we are Satanists, but they ignore me entirely out of envy. I am actually the reason Hps Maxine and Mageson started the thread on Satanic Unity.

It has been so long. I am glad I finally get to interact with an SS. My name Is Leon. I'm really into astrology so if your into this as well I can teach you some things and show you events that have occurred in my life and the astrological reasons for it.`


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Do not meet anyone! This is not safe at all. You shouldn't trust people so easily, i mean i have not seem this Astralnaut around here at all just now that we are talking about activism, be careful. You shouldn't meet anyone even if they were around in the forum for years, it's just not safe.


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