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On The Argument of Hitler "Losing"

Postby Hoodedcobra666 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 1:36 pm

Did Hitler Really Lose...Let's find out.

I clear out this is not a diss to Varg as I consider him something like a first and very necessary "cousin" to our work and ideology. We are materializing the same objective from different levels. Way, way different levels. The closeness to truth varies for obvious reasons of where we do this work from and where it goes towards.

I can also see that Varg likes Hitler in his heart. But he cannot express himself due to constraints. In which case the points below are to be taken with a grain of salt.

If you pay close attention to the arguments presented by Varg or other "Fascists" or "Judges" of Hitler, they are all ironic. Varg makes his arguments about evil civilization from one of the most civilized countries of the planet, which has a far and vast arsenal of nuclear capability, which is France. He can be in France because uhm, the evil European Union can help citizens to move freely in Europe. And you can reside elsewhere by law.

Financially, France, the infestation aside, is also a very strong country, and plus, if you have material needs in France you can cover them. In France you can ironically work your plans of becoming an independent Tribalist, but try this in Serbia with 280eu monthly Salary, and you will see what "Tribalism" really means in reality. Ironically, to become a Tribalist, is only possible in countries which have truly some form of healthy shekel situation going, thanks to successful civilization. The same thing goes for financial freedoms which also exist in France.

When you have a baby, you can go to a shiny hospital and have your baby be born, blessed be both the hospitals and the babies (I wish the best truly for all Europeans who have babies, obviously, and may they have more). What you also can do is cash money from giants like Amazon which are in the US which you belittle and attack everyday as part of 'organized civilization'. You can also get your mails and books from the accursed civilization's internet. You can sleep at night at ease knowing one of the world's best military is protecting you, and even if they are scumbags to personal freedoms, you live your life at least knowing you will not be runsacked by random tribes or pirates in the region anymore.

How did Varg become famous. He became famous by Satanism essentially, and Satan. Despite the penalties of the early part of his life which came from association with commies and losers like Euronymous (which resulted for lifelong fame for him and him becoming a metal legend regardless), he became famous through tools like the internet. Which are in all respects, a construct of civilization, basically, constructs that go well beyond civilization. I don't doubt the Gods used their hand on Varg and blessed him, to promote messages and turn people to Paganism, which is in all respects, way better than the jewish filth.

Essentially if you deduct all of the above and cleanse them through logic, you will see something important. That it's not civilization that is the problem. But two factors. One factor is the jew in civilization, and another factor is the perversion and stealing, and manipulation that happens from the jews. These boil down to one fact, lack of understanding, which is lack of spirituality. If these issues are fixed, the issues civilization causes will be eliminated. Maybe not fully, but upwards to a 98%, this can be for sure, yet we have to build to that level it doesn't come on it's own.

Another fault of Varg is that he scorns people of the past. You cannot really blame people for losing a war, and you cannot blame them and be fully correct about it since you were not there to see the situations, and attacking people like Hitler is a joke. This is literally an ant criticizing a lion, especially, when said characters intentions to save our people were cleared out through 'history' even as of late. You have no excuses to be disinformed in this case, for example. You simply do not have a right to 'criticize' men like Hitler and pretend you do this on an equal footing.

Criticism that is valuable is supposed to happen when you know what you are talking about in an indepth sense. If you don't understand a concept then you can say you're doing scorning and flaming more than actual judgement. There are arguments from Tribalits that "Hitler shouted too much on his speeches" and that this scares them or something, or that "Hitler was too forceful with his policies". Since when the "Wild Tribalists and Undomesticated Beastly Powerful Savage Men" get scared or argue of these things, Lol? Where is the "Wilderness" that is claimed by these people? Where is the understanding of Nature's laws.

I suppose the leader of a war torn country that fought the worst war of mankind as a soldier, plus civil war, has to be a calm butterfly like Justin Trudeu. And in the face of planned extinction of his people, he has to be the smoothest and most peaceful man alive. He indeed has to be like Rabbi Jesus, soft spoken, and loving to his enemies, lest his enemies judge him wrongly. Germany was corner and it's fate decided long before Hitler came to power.

Hitler coming to power averted this programmed fate. The plans for Germany's extinction where in table before Hitler's birth. So if the wolf fights and saves his children from this, is that a failed wolf, or is it a successful wolf? As far as it can be seen, Germany still exists and is one of the strongest countries of the planet. Infestation aside, it exists. The plan of the enemy was averted.

The weakness of mind of such people is evident. Imagine if someone whined that Alexander the Great shouted too much on his conquests - how retarded are these arguments? If people conspire to kill you and you fight them and you lose a finger or get scarred but at least you live, I guess we have to blame YOU for losing a finger or a hand, instead of losing your existence. So "Unvikingly" of an argument these people pose. It really makes you think...Why is this the case?

In the same way we can claim that the Vikings or any other group of mighty people were retarded losers since they are not going around in boats anymore. Indeed, if one acts like a kike, and uses these jewish arguments, they can blame everyone for everything. This comes from a desire to make people seem that way and it does not reflect the reality of their worth. It is a sided argument to villify these people. Same as the jews do with great civilizations that have persisted for tens of thousands of years.

Jews don't attack us now because Hitler's war was 'lost'. You do not attack a target you have won against. You attack someone with whom you have not settled accounts and where there has been no victor decided. They attack us now because they didn't win. This should be obvious.

Communism was also defeated. Project paperclip transferred a lot of German scientists to America, which was the reason Communism was defeated in the next decades. Yes, the same Communism that planned European Continent Full takeover in 1939 and was averted by the "Losers".

Of course, these judges of greater people understand only the basic laws of nature, such as win or lose. They do not divide events how a true Pagan philosopher or observer would do, which would be through logical analysis. Fancy terms about Paganism are always used by Pagans but they seldom ever apply Paganism in its true form in all sorts of ways. They just nullify all arguments based on outcomes. Varg and all these types can use all of the aforesaid means and also exist because some people decided to carry a big sacrifice of themselves almost a century ago.

Ants cannot judge lions in a valuable way. If someone thinks they are important in this world because they have a lot of subscribers or because they can play a guitar (with a lot of talent), then I digress. In the case Varg takes this stance because he is persecuted, then the Gods know about his heart, and he is fully excused. Varg is also practicing reverse advertising by attacking Hitler and in many cases belittling his work. It's also not working if that its the intention of such. It works only in reverse.

The harsh judgement of Hitler comes not only from lack of knowledge, perspective, but also spiritual understanding. They just cannot understand this man because they are not similarly advanced. They reject all the factors which really contributed to this event such as the war on the higher levels. And the higher objectives.

What I know for a fact, is that we are here, we exist, we have enough freedom to act, and Whites exists. Europe exists. Whites exist. The West and the freedoms given to all mankind such as information, speech, and religious freedom is still here. There are still ways to communicate. There are still ways to exist and advanced if you're willing to. The sacrifice of Hitler and the people were not in vain. It manifested. And we carry this objective on the next level. Not just of Hitler but all freedom fighters against the enemies of mankind. Hitler indeed won.

Varg talks about "Reincarnation" all the time, and yadda yadda, trivial crap about how you "Reincarnate", but judges Hitler as a mortal shell who "lost a war in 1945" and whose "Loss resulted in the problems of civilization". Look at the irony here... All "people against civilization" just point on the few bad things about civilization, while disregarding the positive things, which after all, they lavish in. Therefore it's comfortable to double talk and end the argument here, on a "Hitler that lost in 1945" only taking the losses at heart to justify his objective.

Judging Hitler on this temporary virtual 'loss' is like judging Casanova for losing one girlfriend once upon a time, and got her next year. It's like judging Tesla harshly because he finished his lifetime without manifesting one of his wonderful machines. Hitler's next year is coming in and will manifest in the future as an ultimate victory.

From the point of fatalism and nihilism, and also mortal observation, they lost these cases. But when you see them as eternal souls then their work is not over. And this is the fundamental truth of Paganism, reincarnation and re-emergence.

If we take the lenses of observation higher, we will see how many great battles people like that have won. The win to loss ratio is 2-1 at the very least which is why are here. If we have not won the majority of battles we wouldn't be here right now. And that the cycle of life consists of battles, victories and losses. But the final outcome of this earth has not even be decided, and is not even close to be decided.

Varg calls people who like Hitler "Losers" but he is essentially the only one focusing on the TEMPORARY loss and SELECTIVE OBSERVATION of Hitler as someone who 'lost'.

When Hitler and many other precious souls who have fought for thousands of years manifest blatantly, Varg and many others will be ashamed of their hypocrisy and harsh judgement.

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Re: On The Argument of Hitler "Losing"

Postby Ol argedco luciftias » Sat Jul 07, 2018 5:10 pm

Do I always love those opening lines encouraging us to always figure out the truth and learn more? "Let's Find Out!" :D
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Re: On The Argument of Hitler "Losing"

Postby Ol argedco luciftias » Sat Jul 07, 2018 6:20 pm

I think this video explains very well why he can't say everything he wants to. https://youtu.be/X3WZnJaxOG0
He had his home broken into by the police, the door was shot apart without them even announcing themselves as police, his family was terrorized, and him and his wife were arrested. And all of this was based on NOTHING at all! He was completely innocent, the entire excuse for the police doing all this was that they claimed he had sent an email to some bad person, which of course was completely untrue they checked his email and found there was never any communication there. This raid was ordered by a high level position within the French government with no purpose or excuse, only to threaten and terrorize his family. They don't need an excuse of him actually doing anything wrong, an unsupported accusation is enough. The French government is aware of his views, and sent this clear message to him to be very careful what he talks about. France has no freedom of speech on important topics, especially when it comes to the historical inaccuracies of the WW2 story.
Here is another story https://youtu.be/7tTSTQEv6zw of the time Norwegian special forces/secret police were out hunting him intent on killing him. This was not the regular police force, they had no knowledge of this, this was a direct branch of Norwegian government/military who were ready, willing, and hoping to kill him. Which of course would never be recorded, a secret execution that would have officially never happened.

He of course wants his family to be safe, so he is forced to be extremely careful in how much he says and how he says it. From multiple direct experiences, he knows if he says the wrong thing the government can just come in and kill/arrest him and his family. He clearly knows the truth, read the comments on any one of his videos every comment is talking clearly about (((Them))) as the source of every problem and is pinned by him as something like "Loved comment". Always making videos about how the Jewish programs of Judaism, Christianity, and Islam are the direct source of all problems in the world.

He was just recently making a series of great videos detailing all the genocides and war crimes committed by the British during WW2. So everyone in the comments were (rightfully) assuming he supported Germany. Which he does/did, he's talked a lot how he spent his whole childhood and teen years preparing and wanting to fight for the Germans in a war like WW2. But for the safety of his family, he isn't able to make it so clear that he still supports Hitler, so he was forced to make some quick little video saying "Yea Hitler was pretty bad I don't support him," that doesn't mean it's true. Look at how much passion, research, and detail he had in the videos exposing British crimes, but the German one was just a quick and vague "Yea Hitler was also bad, I don't support anybody in that war".

In one of his old videos when he described the Nazis as losers, he was just talking from personal experience about stagnation verses success. You can either just lay around wishing for the Nazis to come back so you can join them, meanwhile doing nothing with your life. Or you can get up and actively improve yourself and work for something. This is personal experience of himself and many people he knew, they wanted to be Nazis but the path of stagnation and the resulting self-destruction of just waiting around for something that was never going to happen was turning them into losers. When instead you need to get up and improve. I don't think he meant this against the Nazis specifically, but against the mindset of stagnation which was turning people into losers.

About the arguments against civilization, he sees endless examples everywhere he looks on how civilization destroys the environment and the populace on every level, and he isn't exactly wrong about that. And he admits that he has benefited from civilization, it has allowed him the resources to have his comfortable life, but being stuck in the framework of modern civilization makes you a defenseless slave. When the unsustainable economy and civilization collapse, as it eventually will at the rate we're burning through resources, the only people who could comfortably survive this are those who've prepared for the collapse. He says the answer is sustainable permaculture farming and having a big beautiful European family, can't find anything wrong with that. He helps however he is able to, but of course this is limited to what he is allowed to say, what opinions he's allowed to share. He may not be 100% right on everything, but he is at least MOSTLY right about most things. The more of his videos you watch, the more you'll start agreeing with him. It just takes having the different puzzle pieces of his mind together to see his picture more clearly. I find the people who most dislike him are always either the (((Enemy))) or simply people who don't know much about what his views really are. And if you see that video where the Norwegian special forces were trying to kill him, you will see how the gods directly intervened to save his life. He is just as important as many of us are, we're working for the same goal and it takes work on both levels to make it happen. Exposing more people to the truth every day. And his videos are the perfect place to share links to our websites, the viewers are already aware of the (((Problem))) and want to learn more on how to be good Pagans. I bet every one of his viewers is a perfect candidate for dedication and would surely dedicate if they knew how.
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Re: On The Argument of Hitler "Losing"

Postby HP Mageson666 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:24 pm

The situation is Hitler was responding to invasions of his own nation. The Polish army had illegally occupied part of eastern Germany since the end of the first war and had launched boarder wars against Germany in the near past for more land. Poland's military was larger then the entire British empires and was modernized and well trained. They outnumbered the German armed forces greatly. This is why they attacked Germany. The Polish government made a deal with America and England to force Germany into a two front war so they could take more German land for themselves. Poland lost this gamble but they slaughtered tens of thousand of German women, children and men at places like Broomberg to start this war.

Hitler then had to attack west because Germany had been invaded by the English and French armies who were attacking into the Rhine Land to push for Berlin. The German's then defeated both militaries and pushed the English to Dunkirk and France surrendered and put in the Vichy government.

Germany was going to be invaded from Soviet Poland, the Baltic, the boarder of East Prussia and the parts of Soviet occuped Romania in the summer of 1941 which is confrimed in the Soviet archives. By a Soviet army of thirity million troop with the best equipment and training and leadership. So Hitler and his allies had to strike first or be wiped out. That was that. Stalin had prepared for 15 years to conqueror Europe which was the second invasion of Europe by the Red Army the first was in 1921 on orders from Lenin which had been defeated in Poland. But the plan was to take Germany for Communism by attacking thought Poland. Whoever controls Germany controls Europe.

Hitler tried to make peace with England dozens of times even when Germany had won the war against them in 1940. He tried to have peace with the Soviet Union as well. But they realized this was impossible.

Hitler fought a defensive war to protect first Germany itself and then later Europe from Communism. German's, French, Italians, Romanians, Hungarians, Belgians, Dutch, Fins, Norwergians, Swede's, English, Ukrainians Spanish, Latvians, Lithuanians and others and even White Russian's all fought together to destroy the Soviet Union.

Did Hitler lose the war...... Yes and no. Politically Germany was defeated and occupied so yes. However Hitler did destroy the Soviet Union and this caused the fall of the USSR later on. Hitler also forced a situation in which Stalin failed to take all of Europe. And after the war America now a militarized world power with the Atomic weapon entered the cold war against a wasted Soviet Union that had nothing left and military was destroyed. This saved the Free World. Hitler fought the battle of the Alamo of western civilization which allowed America to wake up to the Soviet threat once the war was over, In the end Hitler succeeded in stopping the Zionist elites from taking over the planet with Communism. Which was his ultimate goal.

Staring the war with Hitler in the end cost the Jews their entire USSR and world government.

The reason Hitler lost the war was the Junkers betrayed Germany and refused to follow Hitlers orders which cost them Stalingrad as General Degrelle stated in his biography. And the Junker general staff from the Soviet archives the 11 top generals, three of them were Soviet agents. The Soviets knew all the German battle plans months in advance. If the Germans had of won Stalingrad by following Hitler's orders the Soviet Union would have collapsed in six weeks as all the fuel the Red Army need would have fallen into Axis hands. Stalingrad was the key battle which is why Stalin order the not one step back order.

In the end Hitler simply was forced to fight in a war which Jewry had declared on all of Europe in 1917 when they started to the war of their Communism against all of Europe. Even if Hitler had not of been born, Stalin would have still attacked of all Europe and it would have fallen totally to Communism.
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Re: On The Argument of Hitler "Losing"

Postby HP Mageson666 » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:35 pm

The Jews were so enraged with their fellow tribes man, Stalin's failure they actually assassinated him by poison this was confirmed in the autopsy reports on Stalin.
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Re: On The Argument of Hitler "Losing"

Postby Egon » Sat Jul 07, 2018 9:42 pm

The one thing he's most wrong above all is regarding civilization, it's an ideology based on internalized xtianity (living like the "early xtians" etc.). The wrost of it was he implying White genocide is "Nature's solution to the White civilization problem". There is absolutly nothing wrong with civilization itself, just the Jews infecting it - while he implied that civilization is the number one enemy of the White man while the Jew is just a "sympton" or a catalyst of this problem. I think people who believe too much of what he says are basing on a sympathy for him. Support the guy not the ideology.

Ol argedco luciftias wrote:About the arguments against civilization, he sees endless examples everywhere he looks on how civilization destroys the environment and the populace on every level, and he isn't exactly wrong about that. [...] He may not be 100% right on everything, but he is at least MOSTLY right about most things. The more of his videos you watch, the more you'll start agreeing with him.

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Postby Zazu Ishtar » Sun Jul 08, 2018 3:43 am

This is a monster of a sermon!
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Re: On The Argument of Hitler "Losing"

Postby EasternFireLion666 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 4:24 pm

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Postby curio » Sun Jul 08, 2018 5:38 pm

Egon wrote:The one thing he's most wrong above all is regarding civilization, it's an ideology based on internalized xtianity (living like the "early xtians" etc.). The wrost of it was he implying White genocide is "Nature's solution to the White civilization problem". There is absolutly nothing wrong with civilization itself, just the Jews infecting it - while he implied that civilization is the number one enemy of the White man while the Jew is just a "sympton" or a catalyst of this problem. I think people who believe too much of what he says are basing on a sympathy for him. Support the guy not the ideology.

Ol argedco luciftias wrote:About the arguments against civilization, he sees endless examples everywhere he looks on how civilization destroys the environment and the populace on every level, and he isn't exactly wrong about that. [...] He may not be 100% right on everything, but he is at least MOSTLY right about most things. The more of his videos you watch, the more you'll start agreeing with him.

I get why someone would rebuke some elements of civilized society, and reject it wholly for having been corrupted and abused to push the people and the planet into a state of degeneracy and decay, and he does put forth some decent rhetoric like the analogy of domesticated dogs and wolves standing in for civilized and "uncivilized" man, for example. But given a momentary rational gaze, the idea shatters. It doesn't stand to reason.

What Varg wants to do with regards to civilization is like this: if you have someone whose limb has gone necrotic, then instead of amputating the rotting limb to save the rest of the body, you chop the entire body up into itty bitty pieces and kill it outright. To throw the baby out with the bath water. And on that note, I believe it's a futile effort anyway. As long as humanity exists, we will always strive to create higher forms of order, beauty, to grow and to achieve higher ideals. A prerequisite to this is to develop civilization, since you can't rightly direct your mind towards manifesting these ideals if every day you're toiling just to survive. Though civilization can be full of excess and lead to decadence, it's also this same excess that leads to abundance and allows people the breathing room to create, invent, advance and push the envelope.

Varg wants to return to a tribal state of society with a technological level equal to that of the iron age. Though he talks of a wider racial unity, he wants the unit size of our communities to be chunked down significantly, being the size of only a hamlet(a couple hundred people or so). The highest level organization in his society would be a council of sorts where tribal elders would meet to discuss and decide on matters of the sovereign states in this tribal confederacy. The native Americans had a system and a society like this, and we all know what happened to them when they were faced with a technologically superior, more organized and collectivized, and above all, civilized threat. So did the Gauls, who fell to the civilized Romans.

I can sympathize with some of his ideas of how things should be done, as with his advocacy for self sufficiency, permaculture and his harkening back to simpler times with smaller, tightly-knit communities. And I agree that the decadence of (((modern civilization))) has weakened and pussified the populace. But I think his ideas for how society should be restructured would ultimately be a regression and put us in another state of vulnerability, and doesn't act to solve the fundamental issue. Above all, it's not practical.

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Re: On The Argument of Hitler "Losing"

Postby Wotanwarrior » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:06 pm

Thank you for this magnificent sermon, the effort and sacrifice of our comrades and brothers during centuries was never in vain, thanks to them the jews and their repugnant ETs never managed to gain total control and complete their plan.

This time our victory will be complete.

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Re: On The Argument of Hitler "Losing"

Postby HP Mageson666 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:17 pm

Varg is simply an off the grid, anarchist. There is a big movement of people like that in America.
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Re: On The Argument of Hitler "Losing"

Postby HP Mageson666 » Sun Jul 08, 2018 8:19 pm

It would probably be better if people could just start off the grid organic farms with the money they lose at college instead and start off with that.
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Re: On The Argument of Hitler "Losing"

Postby Stormblood » Mon Jul 09, 2018 3:35 pm

What of the French military today, including the French Foreign Legion? Is it a viable options or do recruits have it as bad as in the USA, Britain, Russia and Israel?
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Re: On The Argument of Hitler "Losing"

Postby sip » Tue Jul 10, 2018 2:10 am

HP Mageson666 wrote:It would probably be better if people could just start off the grid organic farms with the money they lose at college instead and start off with that.


I know this is a bit of sarcasm, but somewhere inside me I know this is not a bad idea and I wish I'd done it :lol:

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Re: On The Argument of Hitler "Losing"

Postby StraitShot47 » Tue Jul 10, 2018 7:38 pm

There are many uses for this Varg character.

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Re: On The Argument of Hitler "Losing"

Postby Godmode » Wed Jul 11, 2018 11:44 am

I think he probably will come around eventually but he must be confused at this all since his massive success came mainly from Odinism, not Satanism. If that happened to me I'd be scared to change my mind on it too for many reasons because first of all you'd start to lose viewers if you dropped your life's gig and he doesn't have a massive source of income as it is. He's also probably jealous he's not Hitler so he should just realize we're all kind of like Hitler in a way but are never going to be him and just get over it already. He is useful and a decent person and even unintentionally serves as a good example of why anarchy is bullshit.
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