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Re: The Wisdom Of Saturn

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sonnenkraft wrote:
Sun Mar 14, 2021 6:00 pm
idiocy smasher wrote:
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Unfortunately That's is correct :shock: :shock: ,i have been involved with some clashes with religious people only, it was when i were young.

I couldn't differentiate between Christians and Muslims ,i used to make fun of them,

Xians claim that Jesus walked on water , i told them bullshit ,they told their parents , and their parents
came to my mother and told her "your son is making fun of our religion"
My mom beat the shit out of me .

Muslims claim that mohammed flew from Arabia to Jerusalem by using "flying horse or donkey"
I used to laugh , i told them it's impossible, he needs engines .they told the principal about me
and he beat the shit out of me, i were humiliated.

I told my mother ,she came to school and she spited on his beard.

Religious people always wanted to touch me "pedophiles" ,Abrahamic people can't handle their balls"dick" when they see blonde blue eyed kid,.

And regarding the Jews, well, i have to say the truth they killed my grandfather in 1967 they shot him.
And yes it was sacrifice they preferred to kill the blonde blue eyed man, they didn't kill the dark ones ,
that's what my grandmother told me,his assassination was planned .

I have extreme hate toward the Jews ,i wish Hitler "getöt**" them all .
it's very annoying ,it's like Jews 1 - 0 gentile,I must take revenge , i don't know how .
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Re: The Wisdom Of Saturn

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HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:
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Δυσδαιμόνα Διαμαντής wrote:
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I remember there was an older topic where Saturn's rings were discussed. There was a book The Ringmakers of Saturn by Norman Bergun which exposed how the enemy aliens created more fake rings around Saturn.
Seems this is empowering the energies of Saturn, especially the negative energies...
I don't know about this theory but people consistently blame random shit for them not doing what they should be doing.

I am not sure it's rings on Saturn that increase Saturn's potency because people take excessive let's say debt money with their credit card because they are addicted to something and they can't pay back.
Lol, I did not mean it in this way. I meant only such things which are not the fault of a person.
The possible fact that filthy greys make the rings must have to do with increasing the negative energies. It was not my idea by the way.
Or they made those rings (or extra rings) to be pretty? :D
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Re: The Wisdom Of Saturn

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I recently got into those Desinty Cards, working my way up to astrology, and when reading some random persons card and info on a site I found this written on there in regards to Saturn,
Saturn rules the responsibilities, restrictions and limitations we are apt to encounter, and the lessons we must learn in life. He does not deny or diminish imagination, inspiration, spirituality, or good fortune, but he does demand that these things be given structure and meaning, for he also governs tact, steady thought and serious contemplation.
In other words Saturn pushes people have order in their lives.
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Re: The Wisdom Of Saturn

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HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:...
13th_Wolf wrote:..
Stormblood wrote:..
Something bothered me all the time. Lets assume Saturn is your ruler, and it aspects other planets of another person’s natal chart.
Is this always bad? I mean it is the Ruler of that person, I do not think that this would be a bad aspect.
The „evil“ Saturn-Person doesn’t exist here, this is what I feel.

What do you think about it?
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Re: The Wisdom Of Saturn

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NinRick wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:03 pm
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:...
13th_Wolf wrote:..
Stormblood wrote:..
Something bothered me all the time. Lets assume Saturn is your ruler, and it aspects other planets of another person’s natal chart.
Is this always bad? I mean it is the Ruler of that person, I do not think that this would be a bad aspect.
The „evil“ Saturn-Person doesn’t exist here, this is what I feel.

What do you think about it?
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.ph ... 99#p236299 (I remember now related to this< Eva Braun's ruler was actually Saturn, to Hitler's Venus ruler.)

I personally have some strong aspects of Saturn from my family members and vice versa. We didn't turn around and kill eachother and have a collapse when I was a toddler, but there were bad splits and occasions it deepened the emotional regards we had to one another.

If Capricorn is at the Ascendant, Cancer is at the Descendant https://advanced-astrology.com/descendant-in-cancer/
This supposes that one lacks comforts and relationships, but by the whole it enforces that all relationships you have with others follow this pattern of being Cancerian and you attract people who will care for you.

If Saturn is your ruler, and other people in your life who are close by blood or however, have personal planets in aspect to your Saturn, you will experience the effects of these planets as on your chart ruler. Venus to the CR means you will love them, Jupiter they will help you etc. If these planets are their CR/s, then it is mutual. These planets play volleyball with eachother. The problem is when there is an imbalance of say, if they were a Jupiter person and had really bad Saturn karma in their chart, and you in your relationship deepened the issues for them by restricting their Jupiter CR. That would cause some problems. But if they didn't have that and needed order and to look out for themselves and reality, you would help them out ALOT.

Everything runs back and forth in the present too. Sometimes the balancing can be necessary during transiting periods and later on in life, say if certain retrograde planet's expressions come forth by progression, after the Saturn return at 30 or whenever.

I believe people with Saturn as their ruler have more power over their material environment depending on other things, but it can definitely support that theme if it's in a relevant chart.

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Re: The Wisdom Of Saturn

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13th_Wolf wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:42 pm
NinRick wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:03 pm
HP. Hoodedcobra666 wrote:...
13th_Wolf wrote:..
Stormblood wrote:..
Something bothered me all the time. Lets assume Saturn is your ruler, and it aspects other planets of another person’s natal chart.
Is this always bad? I mean it is the Ruler of that person, I do not think that this would be a bad aspect.
The „evil“ Saturn-Person doesn’t exist here, this is what I feel.

What do you think about it?
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.ph ... 99#p236299 (I remember now related to this< Eva Braun's ruler was actually Saturn, to Hitler's Venus ruler.)

I personally have some strong aspects of Saturn from my family members and vice versa. We didn't turn around and kill eachother and have a collapse when I was a toddler, but there were bad splits and occasions it deepened the emotional regards we had to one another.

If Capricorn is at the Ascendant, Cancer is at the Descendant https://advanced-astrology.com/descendant-in-cancer/
This supposes that one lacks comforts and relationships, but by the whole it enforces that all relationships you have with others follow this pattern of being Cancerian and you attract people who will care for you.

If Saturn is your ruler, and other people in your life who are close by blood or however, have personal planets in aspect to your Saturn, you will experience the effects of these planets as on your chart ruler. Venus to the CR means you will love them, Jupiter they will help you etc. If these planets are their CR/s, then it is mutual. These planets play volleyball with eachother. The problem is when there is an imbalance of say, if they were a Jupiter person and had really bad Saturn karma in their chart, and you in your relationship deepened the issues for them by restricting their Jupiter CR. That would cause some problems. But if they didn't have that and needed order and to look out for themselves and reality, you would help them out ALOT.

Everything runs back and forth in the present too. Sometimes the balancing can be necessary during transiting periods and later on in life, say if certain retrograde planet's expressions come forth by progression, after the Saturn return at 30 or whenever.

I believe people with Saturn as their ruler have more power over their material environment depending on other things, but it can definitely support that theme if it's in a relevant chart.
Thanks for the input.
This actually really describes it, lol.
I have also noticed, that people who I personally attract, do really care for me. Overtime this has changed me a bit, as I used to be a rock.
When I get to know people, through other people, this is not the case, usually. Only when I attract them myself.
Thankfully, on the material everything does go fine for me.

Also I have something that sets-off the negative aspects from ASC in Capricorn, well, that’s what I believe at least. But I have realised that my views on many things are not quite.. 100%. I still have a long way to go, I better walk now.
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and live the rest of your life as a Champion.“

How to advance spiritually:

1) Follow Inanna’s eight-fold path of advanced empowerment

2) Keep your soul clean and build an Aura of Protection.. Returning Curses Pt 1 & Pt 2

->Hatha yoga session, to facilitate the ascension of your serpent

-> daily RTR and work for Satan -> show your gratefulness

STAND TALL, BE PROUD, BE STRONG, YOU ARE PART OF SATAN‘S HOUSE!

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The thing with the other person's Saturn aspecting your planets in synastry or the other way around is that the enemy curses can strongly manifest through it. Only advanced SS like Herr Hitler and Eva Braun, but not only, can offset them. The reason is that Saturn shows where the issues in the relationship might present and it's on you to smooth those angles. If you do, your relationship will become much stronger and durable. If you don't, you'll end up destroying each other or falling apart.

Kikes have specific curses against each and every member of your family. Not to mention, your social circle, business relationships and professional relationships. One only has to read the bible to find the visible ones, while in their hidden texts they have much worse curses.
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NinRick wrote:
Sat Mar 20, 2021 5:49 pm
13th_Wolf wrote:
Fri Mar 19, 2021 12:42 pm
NinRick wrote:
Thu Mar 18, 2021 8:03 pm






Something bothered me all the time. Lets assume Saturn is your ruler, and it aspects other planets of another person’s natal chart.
Is this always bad? I mean it is the Ruler of that person, I do not think that this would be a bad aspect.
The „evil“ Saturn-Person doesn’t exist here, this is what I feel.

What do you think about it?
https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.ph ... 99#p236299 (I remember now related to this< Eva Braun's ruler was actually Saturn, to Hitler's Venus ruler.)

I personally have some strong aspects of Saturn from my family members and vice versa. We didn't turn around and kill eachother and have a collapse when I was a toddler, but there were bad splits and occasions it deepened the emotional regards we had to one another.

If Capricorn is at the Ascendant, Cancer is at the Descendant https://advanced-astrology.com/descendant-in-cancer/
This supposes that one lacks comforts and relationships, but by the whole it enforces that all relationships you have with others follow this pattern of being Cancerian and you attract people who will care for you.

If Saturn is your ruler, and other people in your life who are close by blood or however, have personal planets in aspect to your Saturn, you will experience the effects of these planets as on your chart ruler. Venus to the CR means you will love them, Jupiter they will help you etc. If these planets are their CR/s, then it is mutual. These planets play volleyball with eachother. The problem is when there is an imbalance of say, if they were a Jupiter person and had really bad Saturn karma in their chart, and you in your relationship deepened the issues for them by restricting their Jupiter CR. That would cause some problems. But if they didn't have that and needed order and to look out for themselves and reality, you would help them out ALOT.

Everything runs back and forth in the present too. Sometimes the balancing can be necessary during transiting periods and later on in life, say if certain retrograde planet's expressions come forth by progression, after the Saturn return at 30 or whenever.

I believe people with Saturn as their ruler have more power over their material environment depending on other things, but it can definitely support that theme if it's in a relevant chart.
Thanks for the input.
This actually really describes it, lol.
I have also noticed, that people who I personally attract, do really care for me. Overtime this has changed me a bit, as I used to be a rock.
When I get to know people, through other people, this is not the case, usually. Only when I attract them myself.
Thankfully, on the material everything does go fine for me.

Also I have something that sets-off the negative aspects from ASC in Capricorn, well, that’s what I believe at least. But I have realised that my views on many things are not quite.. 100%. I still have a long way to go, I better walk now.
Pluto honestly is much worse than Saturn in a relationship in my experience. Saturn is like childsplay compared to Pluto.
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Without limits, wouldn't there only be infinite possibilities which would just be non-creation? From my understanding, when you create something you define parameters for what it is within the scope of everything.
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People do forget one does not grow stronger without being forged by fires. Saturns energy is that fire that helps people to get stronger if they listen to it, and transformed into something more beautiful than before hand.

Take a piece of metal. You stick it into the hot coals and heat it red hot, hammer it and shape it, temper it in oil, polish and sharpen it. And you’ve got yourself an amazing sword on your hands. That’s Saturns energy to me in a nutshell.

Now if you don’t know what to do with that metal say through lack of knowledge, then you are going to get burned. The Gods of Satan teach us this knowledge so we can forge our swords so to speak and essentially become our own heroes and healers.
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jrvan wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:25 pm
Without limits, wouldn't there only be infinite possibilities which would just be non-creation? From my understanding, when you create something you define parameters for what it is within the scope of everything.
That's a brilliant statement. In order to shape potential energy into kinetic energy and manifest it, you need to build a framework for it to happen, which is what Saturn does.
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Stormblood wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:03 am
jrvan wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:25 pm
Without limits, wouldn't there only be infinite possibilities which would just be non-creation? From my understanding, when you create something you define parameters for what it is within the scope of everything.
That's a brilliant statement. In order to shape potential energy into kinetic energy and manifest it, you need to build a framework for it to happen, which is what Saturn does.
Saturn rules the earth element and part of this relates to that. Separation, limitation etc, are necessary to creation.
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What if I want to learn more about my Saturn placement beyond what is says in the astrology section in the Jos?
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at least Saturn does give self-discipline
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Kieith666 wrote:
Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:44 am
What if I want to learn more about my Saturn placement beyond what is says in the astrology section in the Jos?
Google, basically. Use multiple sources to get a generalized idea.
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Stormblood wrote:
Wed Apr 07, 2021 5:03 am
jrvan wrote:
Sat Mar 27, 2021 8:25 pm
Without limits, wouldn't there only be infinite possibilities which would just be non-creation? From my understanding, when you create something you define parameters for what it is within the scope of everything.
That's a brilliant statement. In order to shape potential energy into kinetic energy and manifest it, you need to build a framework for it to happen, which is what Saturn does.
Why thank you. :)
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