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Satanism Hidden In Tengrism

Pammy

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Hello!

I'm planning to touch on a few subjects here without getting too deep. Inspired by Maharlikan666.

Tengrisim, Tengricilik, Gök Tengricilik, Kök Tengricilik, or Gök Tanrıcılık is the oldest religion of Turks and Mongols. Tengri is the highest being in the Turkish pantheon. It's not certain if it's an individual or like, energy or ether. Gök means sky. Kök means root. Due to similar pronunciation, we are not sure which one is true. I'll mention this again while talking about the tree of life on the drum of kam, baksı, ozan, shaman (şaman), or sage. I'll refer to them as sage or shaman for English speakers to relate.

Topics that will be mentioned are:

i) The Sage's Seven Notched Tree of Life
ii) General Information About The Pantheon and Muslims' Lie About Tengrism
iii) Most Well Known Talisman of Turks: Nazar Boncuğu
iv) The Mistery of Runic Göktürk Alphabet
v) How Roman Empire and a nation from far east can have the same legend long before any contact?


Plus other things I may mention here and there. It will take more than one post. Let' get started.

i) The Sage's Seven Notched Tree of Life
Who is the sage(kam, baksı)? The sage is a wise person, a magician, a ''singer'' who organizes ceremonies and celebrations (deaths, weddings, hunts) and a healer. Many years ago in a literature class, I remember that the lecturer said the sage was singing to heal the sick person back then. It didn't make sense. Now it makes. They were singing, they were vibrating and chanting mantras and runes to heal.

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A Shaman's Outfit, National History Museum in Mongolia, the picture is taken from this journal and referenced to an essay from Bilge Seyidoğlu

Here we see the drum of the sage. However it's not the drawing that I want to talk about though the structure that pierces through clouds, the creature with hornfoot and horns (deer, goat?), and the other strange creature among the clouds (some kind of alien?) on the drum look interesting.

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The drums are I want to talk about the ones with the tree of life:
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Well, I don't know why they call it the tree of life. It looks like a human to me. This picture is from the same essay as the above one.

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This image is taken from International Journal of Cultural and Social Studies (IntJCSS)
December 2015, referenced to dr. Ağaç and dr. Sakarya


I put those before the next one but we'll talk about them later. This way, it'll be easier to understand.
Firstly, look at that:
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source: Nature Depictions in Turkish Mythology Through Sagas

Under the picture, it says the parts of tree represent the lower realm (hell, bad dragon, bad snake), our realm (middle part, and the highest realm (sky, heaven, divine bird). Well, I don't think this is the case. I think the divine bird is Lilith's owl and snake belongs to Satan.

You remember the tree depictions on drums look like humans right? If you look at them again, you'll see they are also divided into three. The lower part must be representing lower chakras. The upper part is for upper chakras. The middle, the body of the tree, is the middle chakra. As if it's not interesting enough, this religion is called Gök/Kök (sky/root) Tengrism (godhead).

According to the teachings of Tengrism, the tree of life has 7, 9, or 12 (in Altay Turks) notches. It's associated with the numbers 7, 8, and 12 (in Siberian Turks). Yakuts (a branch of Turkish people) believed that if the shaman can climb all seven notches, they could drink a divine, gold-colored, foamy drink that heals and gives youth.

HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Paradise is my wine and Hell is the heat of my scorching
wind.

Constellations prostrated to me until I was elevated.
Like the prostration of servants to the served.


Here, Satan explains that Paradise is His Wine. Wine as an allegory is associated with the Pineal gland. The God of Wine, Dionysus, in Ancient Greek mythological lore, was the King God of the Bacchic mysteries, or the mysteries of ascent of the consciousness into a higher level.

I'm not the most knowledgeable about mythologies but even I know there are more than one mythology that associates a divine drink and immortality.

In order to drink from the divine drink, shamans have to ''fly''. Please remember that this is a translation of oral tradition that thousands of years old. Going to heaven was ''flying'' in the old Turkish. When shaman flies or gets high, and I don't mean drugs here, they were in a trance. In a trance, the shaman could go to the higher realm and speak to the gods.

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Pic from The Journal of Social Sciences Institute
Sky, heaven, higher realms, the place gods reside, and the place the shaman goes to meet with gods is the space as you can see here and in the others. But it's also something else, the shaman goes there through upper chakras.

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Unfortunately, I'm not sure about the source of this one. These ones are found on gravestones, as far as I can read.

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Here, we see a shaman with his drum. There is a tree on the drum. There are people, holding hands. You can see people holding hands in other ones too. People who hold hands are usually interpreted as ''all Turkish branches should stick together'' and a few more things but I'm not sure about that. It may be it, or something totally different. The necklace should be a ''nazar boncuğu''. I don't know what people with weird heads mean. I feel like I know what it means, but I can't remember.

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I found this one on many websites but I couldn't find somewhere that says where it's from. Do you see the man on the right? It has the same symbolism as in Tarot. One foot on the water and one foot on the earth. The balance between spirituality and physical. I'll let you decipher the rest.

After the invasion of Islam, tree of life designs from late history:
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I hope that I'm not the only one who sees a peacock there. Btw, do you know what the double-headed eagle symbolizes?

A goddess who is a protector to children on the tree of life:
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Tree of life in Turkish nations today:
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The flag of Chuvashiya, the emblem of the Ministry of Culture and Tourism of Turkey, a penny from Turkey

Tree of life from other cultures:
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Something unrelated that I ran into and I want to share it:
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A man dressed up as Ayaz Ata (a god) holds an 8 pointed star and they are celebrating the winter solstice.

Okay that's all I want to say about the tree of life in Turkish culture. I'll be back and with ii) General Information About The Turkic Pantheon and Muslims' Lie About Tengrism in the replies.

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Pammy said:
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Hello!

I'm planning to touch on a few subjects here without getting too deep. Inspired by Maharlikan666.

Tengrisim, Tengricilik, Gök Tengricilik, Kök Tengricilik, or Gök Tanrıcılık is the oldest religion of Turks and Mongols. Tengri is the highest being in the Turkish pantheon. It's not certain if it's an individual or like, energy or ether. Gök means sky. Kök means root. Due to similar pronunciation, we are not sure which one is true. I'll mention this again while talking about the tree of life on the drum of kam, baksı, ozan, shaman (şaman), or sage. I'll refer to them as sage or shaman for English speakers to relate.

Topics that will be mentioned are:

i) The Sage's Seven Notched Tree of Life
ii) General Information About The Pantheon and Muslims' Lie About Tengrism
iii) Most Well Known Talisman of Turks: Nazar Boncuğu
iv) The Mistery of Runic Göktürk Alphabet
v) How Roman Empire and a nation from far east can have the same legend long before any contact?


Plus other things I may mention here and there. It will take more than one post. Let' get started.

i) The Sage's Seven Notched Tree of Life
Who is the sage(kam, baksı)? The sage is a wise person, a magician, a ''singer'' who organizes ceremonies and celebrations (deaths, weddings, hunts) and a healer. Many years ago in a literature class, I remember that the lecturer said the sage was singing to heal the sick person back then. It didn't make sense. Now it makes. They were singing, they were vibrating and chanting mantras and runes to heal.

IMG_0030.png

A Shaman's Outfit, National History Museum in Mongolia, the picture is taken from this journal and referenced to an essay from Bilge Seyidoğlu

Here we see the drum of the sage. However it's not the drawing that I want to talk about though the structure that pierces through clouds, the creature with hornfoot and horns (deer, goat?), and the other strange creature among the clouds (some kind of alien?) on the drum look interesting.

Screenshot_400.png


The drums are I want to talk about the ones with the tree of life:
Screenshot_401.png

Well, I don't know why they call it the tree of life. It looks like a human to me. This picture is from the same essay as the above one.

IMG_0029.png
This image is taken from International Journal of Cultural and Social Studies (IntJCSS)
December 2015, referenced to dr. Ağaç and dr. Sakarya


I put those before the next one but we'll talk about them later. This way, it'll be easier to understand.
Firstly, look at that:
IMG_0022.png

source: Nature Depictions in Turkish Mythology Through Sagas

Under the picture, it says the parts of tree represent the lower realm (hell, bad dragon, bad snake), our realm (middle part, and the highest realm (sky, heaven, divine bird). Well, I don't think this is the case. I think the divine bird is Lilith's owl and snake belongs to Satan.

You remember the tree depictions on drums look like humans right? If you look at them again, you'll see they are also divided into three. The lower part must be representing lower chakras. The upper part is for upper chakras. The middle, the body of the tree, is the middle chakra. As if it's not interesting enough, this religion is called Gök/Kök (sky/root) Tengrism (godhead).

According to the teachings of Tengrism, the tree of life has 7, 9, or 12 (in Altay Turks) notches. It's associated with the numbers 7, 8, and 12 (in Siberian Turks). Yakuts (a branch of Turkish people) believed that if the shaman can climb all seven notches, they could drink a divine, gold-colored, foamy drink that heals and gives youth.

HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Paradise is my wine and Hell is the heat of my scorching
wind.

Constellations prostrated to me until I was elevated.
Like the prostration of servants to the served.


Here, Satan explains that Paradise is His Wine. Wine as an allegory is associated with the Pineal gland. The God of Wine, Dionysus, in Ancient Greek mythological lore, was the King God of the Bacchic mysteries, or the mysteries of ascent of the consciousness into a higher level.

I'm not the most knowledgeable about mythologies but even I know there are more than one mythology that associates a divine drink and immortality.

In order to drink from the divine drink, shamans have to ''fly''. Please remember that this is a translation of oral tradition that thousands of years old. Going to heaven was ''flying'' in the old Turkish. When shaman flies or gets high, and I don't mean drugs here, they were in a trance. In a trance, the shaman could go to the higher realm and speak to the gods.

IMG_0020.png

Pic from The Journal of Social Sciences Institute
Sky, heaven, higher realms, the place gods reside, and the place the shaman goes to meet with gods is the space as you can see here and in the others. But it's also something else, the shaman goes there through upper chakras.

IMG_0018.jpg

Unfortunately, I'm not sure about the source of this one. These ones are found on gravestones, as far as I can read.

IMG_0027.png

Here, we see a shaman with his drum. There is a tree on the drum. There are people, holding hands. You can see people holding hands in other ones too. People who hold hands are usually interpreted as ''all Turkish branches should stick together'' and a few more things but I'm not sure about that. It may be it, or something totally different. The necklace should be a ''nazar boncuğu''. I don't know what people with weird heads mean. I feel like I know what it means, but I can't remember.

IMG_0032.png

I found this one on many websites but I couldn't find somewhere that says where it's from. Do you see the man on the right? It has the same symbolism as in Tarot. One foot on the water and one foot on the earth. The balance between spirituality and physical. I'll let you decipher the rest.

After the invasion of Islam, tree of life designs from late history:
Screenshot_415.png

I hope that I'm not the only one who sees a peacock there. Btw, do you know what the double-headed eagle symbolizes?

A goddess who is a protector to children on the tree of life:
IMG_0024.png


Tree of life in Turkish nations today:
Screenshot_419.png

The flag of Chuvashiya, the emblem of the Ministry of Culture and Tourism of Turkey, a penny from Turkey

Tree of life from other cultures:
Screenshot_424.png


Something unrelated that I ran into and I want to share it:
Screenshot_425.png

A man dressed up as Ayaz Ata (a god) holds an 8 pointed star and they are celebrating the winter solstice.

Okay that's all I want to say about the tree of life in Turkish culture. I'll be back and with ii) General Information About The Turkic Pantheon and Muslims' Lie About Tengrism in the replies.

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Yes! Thank you so much! This is AWESOME and much-needed! There are many races that are in deep-dire need for the exposing, re-discovering and embracing of their ancestral faiths! Tengrists, and the ancient Mongols and Turks were very-aligned with our Father, Lucifer, another one of those Great Ancient Faiths of the Asiatic peoples, whom some of my great ancestors are descended from (Mongolia, Siberia, Turkic realm specifically). Tengrism, unfortunately unlike Hinduism and Buddhism, is extremely suppressed and knowledge of it is only limited to those interested in Turkic and Mongolic cultures. Buddhism, specifically Tibetan Buddhism, has become a "heritage faith" of the Mongolians, something that Mongols distinguish militantly from the Chinese/Southeast Asian Buddhism, though as to whether the adopting of Tibetan Buddhism for the Mongols is good or bad is an answer beyond me - at least the Mongolians haven't embraced Islam or Christian bullshit.

While Tengrist symbols are appearing back on the flags of some of the Turkic nations, but mixing it with Islam or Russian Orthodoxy is not good, the Turkic and Mongolic peoples NEED to start turning back to Tengri, their True Ancestral God, not Allah, not Jehovah (as some of the Turkic and Mongolic peoples, mostly those living in eastern Russia, are now Russian Orthodox).

I got no doubt, that if the Turkic nations had their own equivalent to Nazism and Aryanism so-to-speak, Tengrism would be their spiritual base!

I gotta say, the old Russian Empire (so this would include Central Asia and at times, Mongolia), was indeed a heck of a spiritual place, with Puren, Odin and Tengri's people all living side-by-side. Not sure if Puren and Odin are the same God, one was worshiped by the Slavs, the other by the Germanic peoples.

If Russia as a whole woke up (which they fact that they banned YouPorn/Jewtube and Coca-Cola is a good starting point), Tengri would be one of the "National Gods" of Russia instead of phony Jehovah and the Russian Orthodox Church and Islam (the current "national religions" of Russia). Although the Russians got "one thing" right by also proclaiming Buddhism as one of the national religions, though I've seen, the enemy has also used Buddhism to persecute the Black Shamanists (see below).

Another topic that may be of interest, since it it ties into Turkic-Mongolic black magick, is Black Shamanism, as well as the Lost Empire of Tartaria, which covered large swaths of Central Asia, Russia, Mongolia and northern China, and reading of it, seems like another Great Advanced Civilization destroyed by Yahweh and the Greys or "Angels" for you know, being an ADVANCED civilization and not an oppressed rural spiritually degenerate Elitist one like filthy Israel, read with a Satanic eye:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_shamanism
https://historyofyesterday.com/tartary-tartaria-the-mystery-of-an-empire-lost-in-history-a99abb5cc9b6

There's even theories that the Gobi Desert was once the Gobi Sea, which I feel is absolutely connected to the Ancient Tartarians, inhabited by possibly, Father Satan's Gods and Goddesses, who were cursed by the human-hating Gods of the Bible for helping mankind, although this article seems to have Christian and New Age blah blahs mixed in it, so again, read with a Satanic eye:
https://www.messagetoeagle.com/mysterious-gobi-sea-and-a-huge-land-inhabited-by-the-real-sons-of-god/

A lot of their traditions definitely are identical to the Native American traditions of old, given that many of the Native Americans are are of Mongolic-Turkic stock, and descendants of ancient migrants from Siberia themselves!

This is TRUE Mongolian culture and heritage right here! Not the "wannabe Mongolian" culture being perpetuated by these "Mongolian BBQ" restaurants, slapping a Chinese identity onto the Mongolian peoples, though I have nothing against Chinese culture itself.

Now it's time for some REAL Mongolian restaurants serving REAL Mongolian food, the way Tengri would appreciate lol! :D

There's only one, that I know of in the entire USA, don't know if I should share it here - since I don't want Jews harrassing them if they find out they're mentioned on here, like the way their Leftist cohorts are now harassing Russian restaurant and business owners due to their World War III script.

Now as for that Cross and Crescent symbol at the bottom, this is another Pagan symbol that the Russian Orthodox hijacked, by Ivan the Terrible who claimed that it was a "victory of Christianity over Islam", by this time the Turkic peoples had become Muslim.


Hail Satan! Hail Tengri!
 
Maharlikan666 said:

Thanks! Some of what you said is new to me, in fact I know very little regarding asian folks as I’m mediterranean. I’ll look into Black Shamanism more, complete this series and then translate everything to the Turkish to post in Turkish forum.
 
Pammy said:
Maharlikan666 said:

Thanks! Some of what you said is new to me, in fact I know very little regarding asian folks as I’m mediterranean. I’ll look into Black Shamanism more, complete this series and then translate everything to the Turkish to post in Turkish forum.

You're welcome, and good luck to your research! May Satan and Tengri guide you!

Hail Satan!
 
This post is a translation of: https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=60733 Credit goes to Alterai.

About Turkish Mythology

First and foremost, I wish you health and happiness. I have been researching the connections between Turkish Mythology and Satanism for a while now. In this process, I managed to find certain similarities, but I have to note that Turkish mythology has been subjected to a lot of disinformation and destruction, unfortunately, since our nomadic ancestors had no written tradition, the information about our mythology was recorded in a disorganized manner and at dates that distant from each other. Some of the records we have come from Christian missionaries and Russians who went to the region in the 1400-1900s, while the other part of the information was compiled by German researchers from the shamans in Central Asia in the 1800-1900s, but there is a problem that the research of Turkish Mythology started too late. Because of this, we have information about the latest version of Mythology, that is, its degenerated state, rather than its original roots.

To give an example of this corruption, according to what a historian named Ceren Sungur found in her research on Shamanism, the current chief god Ülgen in the final form of our mythology was originally a goddess, and after the disintegration of the Göktürk Khaganate, the belief system began to change and the goddess named Ülgen took the place of Gök Tengri. She says Ülgen has become a humanoid god-figure. In other words, when the god Ülgen was originally a goddess, she was suddenly turned into a god and even elevated to the position of the chief god. When I checked Yaşar Çoruhlu's Outlines of Turkish Mythology and Uno Harva's Altai Pantheon, there wasn't such a thing, but probably Ceren Sungur saw it somewhere else, if anyone has information on the subject, I would appreciate it here. Sacrifice rituals can be given as another example of corruption. Actually, there are no sacrificial rituals in Paganism, these sacrificial rituals are added into Paganism by the enemy and their supporters. There are plenty of sacrificial rituals (in its degenerated state) in the belief system of our ancestors, what we can understand from this is the enemy made a great attack on the faith of our ancestors and unfortunately succeeded. It is our duty to carefully extract the Satanic information from this pile of information where right and wrong are mixed.


Since the issue of Gök God, Kayra Han and Ülgen is a very complicated subject, I won’t go into this at all today. To briefly mention, it is written in Wikipedia that these gods are in a father-son relationship with each other (Ülgen's father is Kayra, Kayra's father is Tengri). However, in reality, this is wrong, until early dates (700s, 1000s) the god named Ülgen is not even a god, but a goddess. Later, she was related to the Sky God, possibly turning into a god figure. While Kayra Han is the other name of Ülgen in the beliefs of various tribes, it is another name of Tengri in various tribes. As far as I understand, some researchers even say that these three gods were the same person, but later separated from each other.


As you can see, Turkish mythology has many variations (there are many different and unrelated versions of mythology in different tribes, on top of that, the variations in the past are different from today) and is in a deteriorated state, but despite all this, the similarities between a goddess named Umay, who is mentioned even in our oldest records, and Mother Lilith cannot be ignored. If you look carefully, you can see that there are many similarities. What I want to mention in this article is the similarities between Umay and Lilith. What I have written so far has been to provide a better understanding of the subject and an overview of our mythology. From here I will move on to the connections between Mother Lilith and Umay Ana.

Translator Note: This is not included in the original topic as Turkish speakers don't need it. ''Umay Ana'' means Mother Umay. I'm unable to find reliable sources about the roots of the name, but going from what I know, ''um-'' is a verb stem for ''to hope'', ''to wish'', and ''to frighten'' (we'll see this meaning for Mother Umay after the corruption) while ''ay'' is literally meaning ''the moon'' and something you'd see in feminine names in old Turkish. According to Wikipedia, the name means ''womb'' or ''uterus'' in Mongolian.



Connections Between Mother Umay and Lady Lilith


Let's talk about Mother Umay. She is a goddess mentioned in Orkhon Inscriptions, if I'm not wrong, in Kül Tigin and Tonyukuk Inscriptions many times. According to what the researchers found out, the belief in Umay dates back to 500 BC, so we can say that she is one of our oldest gods/goddesses. It is said that she has different names in different tribes, for example, another goddess named Ayzıt is said to be a different name for Umay Ana, and over time these two figures differentiated and Ayzıt became a different goddess. According to our mythology, Mother Umay helps women during childbirth, protects children and women, is the goddess of fertility, and is associated with mothers and children. Umay Ana is also called Blonde Maiden (Sarı Kız) and Blonde Lady* (Sarı Hatun), she is considered a blonde and white woman, sometimes depicted with silver hair, and at the same time, she is similar to the earth goddesses in some cases. (I don't know if Lady Lilith has a direct relationship with the earth, but I don't think it is much of a trouble because if the chief god of the Sky God religion is essentially related to the sky, it wouldn't be wrong to think of his wife as earth, as in many mythologies, remember Uranus and Gaia for example.)

*Translator Note: She was named ''red/scarlet woman, the woman of red'' later on.

Later, in time, the figure of Umay will be associated with darkness, she will be called Black Umay and will be held responsible for child deaths. This is also one of the slanders against our mother Lilith. Our mother Lilith was also held responsible for child deaths by the enemy, although she helped women while they give birth. I have touched on the similarities with Umay Ana so far, and from here on, I will quote and list the things I have mentioned and not mentioned so far, one by one.



The First Similarity: Huma Bird/Umay Kuşu/Hüma kuşu

Huma Bird or with the Latin script of the Persian name Homā; Also known as the Bird of Paradise, it is a legendary bird that does not descend to the ground and flies high. This bird is located on the seventh floor of the sky and is associated with Mother Umay, another name is Umay Bird. As you know, in myths, Heaven or the seventh floor denotes the Crown Chakra, while Hell denotes the Root Chakra. It is a striking similarity that a bird associated with Mother Umay resides in Heaven and in the seventh heaven, and Lady Lilith rules the Crown Chakra. Another interesting issue here is the relationship between Huma bird and ''state/government/crown bird'' is based on Turkish Wikipedia Encyclopedic Dictionary of Turkish Mythology, (They wrote the story of the ''state bird'' directly on the page of Huma bird on the English wiki). Crown/State Bird or Fortune Bird (They are the same bird anyway, according to what writes here one of the meaning of ''devlet (state/government)'' is fortune and luck) is a bird that if it lands on someone's head, they will be crowned so they will be the governer. While the myth that the Huma Bird resides on the seventh floor of the sky or in Heaven already reveals a relationship with the Crown Chakra, its relationship with the State Bird makes the relationship much stronger. There is also an interesting part on the English Wikipedia about a Sufi's abstract approach to this legend, my English is not very good, as far as I understand in the part that I will quote later, the state of the kingship is related to the evolution of thoughts, etc. As far as I know, our perception of the world changes after the seventh chakra, it may be related to this.


Sufi teacher Inayat Khan gives the bestowed-kingship legend a spiritual dimension: "Its true meaning is that when a person's thoughts so evolve that they break all limitation, then he becomes as a king. It is the limitation of language that it can only describe the Highest as something like a king."

Although the Huma bird is mentioned as a Persian figure, such mythological figures are often mentioned in the legends of many nations, in this case, it is probably the same, because all Gentile beliefs are actually based on a single root. I also want to mention that Mother Umay can turn into a bird and I move on to the next one.

T.N: I humbly want to mention that the owl is sacred to Mother Lilith.


The Second Similarity: The Wife of Shiva: Parvati/Uma and Lady Lilith

You probably already knew, one of the most important gods of Indian Mythology,Shiva is actually a name of Satan in another mythology. Let me quote our brother Bright Truth:

2- Satan has been known by different names in different civilizations: Odin, Tengri, Dionysos, Shiva vs. Another name for Shiva is Sanat Kumara, that is, Eternal Youth. Sound familiar now?

It has already been confirmed by the High Priests that Shiva is actually the name of Satan in Indian Mythology. Another name of Parvati, one of Shiva's wives, is Uma. Lady Lilith is associated with Parvati. I'm directly quoting from the Wikipedia page for Parvati:

Parvati (Sanskrit: पार्वती, IAST: Pārvatī), Uma (Sanskrit: उमा, IAST: Umā) or Gauri (Sanskrit: गौरी, IAST: Gaurī) is the Hindu goddess of fertility, love, beauty, harmony, marriage, children, and devotion; as well as of divine strength and power.

This name similarity with Umay has also been noticed by academics, as it is said in Yaşar Çoruhlu's book titled Outlines of Turkish Mythology (page 40):

Various ideas have been stated about the etymology of the word Umay. H. According to N. Orkun, the origin of this word, which refers to a deity (goddess) or female spirit, must be from Sanskirit. As a matter of fact, there was a goddess named Uma in ancient Indian mythology. The word Uma means light and is especially mentioned as the name of the wife of the ancient Indian god Shiva. Light is related to the goddess Umay as it is associated with the sun and therefore with light. -Yaşar Çoruhlu, Outlines of Turkish Mythology, p: 40

Let me quote a few quotes for Parvati that have been called Lilith many times on the JoS forums:

She is Psyche. Lilith is Parvati/Kali... Ninhursag/Ninlil/Damkina ... Hel ...Lakshmi... Saraswati... the Morrigan...Hecate... to name some.

Mother Parvati (Lilith) has various other "forms" as a Goddess.


I would like to mention one more detail, the association of Umay and Uma with light reminded me of our Lilith Mother's saying "Light is Power"*.

T.N: She might have used different wording, this is a translation of the translation of her words and I'm unable to find the source.


The Third Similarity: Umay Ana Doesn't Appear to Just Anyone

In Turkish mythology, it is said that only children can see Umay Ana, while other spirits and gods appear to humans. In this respect, I think there is a similarity with Lady Lilith appearing only to those she chose. Unfortunately, I cannot offer a quote about this, I only heard about it from Ceren Sungur. However, I could not find anything related to this issue in the sources I studied. Those who are curious can look at it by searching the video on youtube, check the twelfth minute.

The quote belongs to JoS page that is dedicated to Lady Lilith:

Lilith is not one to be summoned. She appears to whom she chooses on her own. One of her sacred symbols is the owl.




The Fourth Similarity: The Duties of Mother Umay and Lady Lilith

The quote is from JoS page that dedicated to Lady Lilith:

She is the liberator of women. She is the patron of strong women and a Goddess of women's rights. Lilith represents sexual liberation and sex for pleasure. She is the exaltation of the feminine divine. Lilith also stands for abortion rights and birth control. She is also known to help women in childbirth.

There are some quotes about her from Turkish and English Wikipedia pages for her:

Umay (Ana) is the goddess of fertility in Turkic mythology and Tengrism and as such related to women, mothers and children. Umay resembles earth-mother goddesses found in various other world religions.

The tree of life belongs to her. She protects children. Spreads abundance to the earth. She shines brightly. Sometimes she can frighten people when she gets angry. Those who do not have children dedicate sacrifices to her. She lives in the sky. Sometimes she descends to earth. She is depicted with a swan or a graceful horse next to her. She protects pregnant women and baby animals.

In addition, Mother Umay protects women and children as well as directly assists in obstetrics and fights evil spirits, which is a remarkable similarity. The following excerpt is from a website named religion and mythology, dedicated to Umay Ana: (There are similar quotes in the books, but I didn't take notes, and truth to be told I feel too lazy to find them right now.):

Protector of children and women who have just given birth, Umay is a supernatural being who protects the child whom she took under her guardianship during the birth until the child reaches adolescence.





The Fifth Similarity: Associating Both with Evil Over Time

First, I would like to quote an answer to a question regarding Lady Lilith:

A sickness that occurs due to a lack of right medical conditions, a superstition. Its identification with Lilith seems highly arbitrary. She is Satan's most beloved wife and a Goddess who helps women during childbirth; accusing her of the other way around can be either superstition or a direct enemy distortion.

The same situation happened with Mother Umay, with a quote from Yaşar Çoruhlu's book, Outlines of Turkish Mythology:

The spirit, which we tried to deal with before regarding Umay, known by names such as Albastı, Al Ruhu (The Red Spirit), Al Karısı (The Red Woman, The Wife of Red), Al (The Red), Al Ana (The Red Mother), is probably the negative form of Umay according to the dual principles that developed later; in other words, a spirit or deity derived from it. However, in this case, she is from the group of evil spirits; because it torments puerperant women and causes puerperal fever (albastı). -Yaşar Çoruhlu, Outline of Turkish Mythology, p: 54

The association of Albastı and Lilith is mentioned separately in both English and Turkish Wikipedias, but I do not want to examine it, you can look it up yourself if you are interested.



The Sixht Similarity:Depictions of Mother Umay and Lady Lilith

I remember reading the descriptions of Lady Lilith as a blonde Aryan woman on the JoS forums, if you search the forums a little you can find these depictions, I don't think it's needed to quote them. Mother Umay is called ''The Blonde Maiden'' and ''The Blonde Lady'', and there are her various blonde depictions. Again, I will quote from Yaşar Çoruhlu's book:

On the other hand, the sun, which gives life to everything, has something to do with Uma. Because of the yellow color of the sun, Umay is also called the Yellow Girl by Turkish people. Because the sun gives heat, Umay is also associated with fire and hearth cults. If we accept the word as Turkish, the word ay (the moon) is close to the word Umay. -Yaşar Çoruhlu, Outlines of Turkish Mythology, p: 41



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That's it, I won't mention anything about mythology in what I'm going to write from here. I've shared what I've found so far by giving as many sources as possible. Non-Satanists will see this article as nonsense and point out the differences between Umay and Lilith, my answer to them is that this difference is natural because the enemy has corrupted the mythologies and teachings, and these beliefs have inevitably suffered natural destruction over time. Apart from that, I would like to hear the comments of my satanist brothers and sisters on the subject. Finally, the person who inspired me to write this article is my friend Bright Truth. In a conversation I had with him last night, he advised me to open an account in the forums, so I had done a certain amount of research on Turkish Mythology, I had a Umay-Lilith association in mind before, and I came to these conclusions by looking at the sources a little carefully and scanning. After stating this, again, I feel too lazy to check if there is a typo/sentence mistake, so I finish the article without checking it, and I await your feedback.

Edit: Typos, etc. I'm still not satisfied with some sentences but I’m short on time.
 
Thanks to Diskriminant for sharing this:

I want to talk about something parallel to this issue.
When you explained the meaning of this anthropomorphic figure, I realized that,

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Source: http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2005/arch05/051015chinasymbol.htm

The figure you are talking about is a symbol used almost all over the world. And when I read that it is about the tree of life, I understood why it can be found in every civilization.

The interesting part is that the same shape can be obtained in plasma experiments and simulations. This is the reason why the authors of the article I put as a source researched this.

But as I understand it now, electromagnetism is deeply related to the spirit, and the fact that this symbol can occur in plasma experiments also supports my opinion. In my previous article, I said that such an important spiritual symbol was obtained in plasma experiments. Even the filamentation of plasmas is similar to the kundalini snake.

https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=71420&p=351640#p351640

Pammy said:
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Pic from The Journal of Social Sciences Institute
 
Pammy said:
A man dressed up as Ayaz Ata (a god) holds an 8 pointed star and they are celebrating the winter solstice.

Thanks to everyone who warned me about Ayaz Ata not being an authentic god from the pantheon but a fabrication of the Soviets.
 

Al Jilwah: Chapter IV

"It is my desire that all my followers unite in a bond of unity, lest those who are without prevail against them." - Satan

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