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SeerOfSS

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Started last week, something hit me hard and felt pike blood pressure dropped stomach got massive bloating.
After taking some stuff, charcoal pills and apple cider it dropped back some. However my stomach still gets bloated and I am eating easy and no fast food or heavy food either.

Started taking probiotics about 3 or 4 days ago. Still take some charcoal pills and I take gas x to stop the bloating.

I am a little hungry so I eat, I use the bathroom. I drink fluids.

Was thinking it the stomach flu and not sure how long it takes and such.

The bloating some times feels like I can not get enough air, once it back to normal I feel some what better.
However my eat still not right.

Anything else ask and thanks.
 
SeerOfSS said:

It is either the stomach/spleen or liver. 1) What exactly are/have you been eating?

My guess is that the stomach/spleen got weakened, as that is the most common reason for bloating. The bloating means that food is not being digested properly.

2) How does your stomach feel right after you eat? Do you feel like the food "passes" the stomach? Do you lose your appetite soon after eating?
3) Do you have any headaches, such as frontal or temple headaches?
4) How are your bowel movements? Are they watery or not solid?

You should focus on eating warm foods only, both in temperature and property. The best foods for the stomach and spleen are sweeter foods that are orange or yellow. Something like cooked carrots, squash, rice, sweet potato, etc. Eat these foods and the stomach and spleen will heal. Ginger tea is also good if you can find that, since it is warm and boosts the stomach.

Avoid cold items, with the worst offenders being cold drinks, raw fruit/salads, or large amounts of green veggies. Avoid junk foods and processed sweats/sugar, as this weakens the spleen. Avoid eating late at night, instead preferring the earlier 1/2 of the day for heavier meals.

Stomach flu would involve more cold-like feelings and symptoms and also vomiting. Perhaps you ate something bad that your body sort of continued digesting, resulting in a weakened digestion, but not exactly an infection. That is just my guess.
 
Ol argedco luciftias said:
Some kind of allergy? Is there something you eat that makes it worse?
Na, no allergies from it. I mean I know what I am allergic to and I do not eat that.
Most I eat is really simple stuff even if going out to grab something it's not in areas of allergy.

Mm... Could the virus or whatever i had twisted my stomach that made it very sensitive....

Had some banana and still light food right now.
It is not as crazy as it was however it feels full like there is a lot there even though I have not eaten a lot.
I know banana can do that.
 
SeerOfSS said:
....banana

The rawness of the banana, plus the actual property of it being "cold", will weaken the stomach. This is why you are feeling full, as the stomach is sort of overly occupied and doesn't want to handle more. Fruits and other cold items are better suited for summer where the body is trying to stay cool and the environment provides abundant yang energy. This is why they grow at that time and not during the winter.

As far as something quick to eat: try canned soup, rice, breads, granola bars if they are unprocessed/little sugar.
If you have more time for meal prep, look at diet advice in the above post.
 
SeerOfSS said:
Started last week, something hit me hard and felt pike blood pressure dropped stomach got massive bloating.
After taking some stuff, charcoal pills and apple cider it dropped back some. However my stomach still gets bloated and I am eating easy and no fast food or heavy food either.

Started taking probiotics about 3 or 4 days ago. Still take some charcoal pills and I take gas x to stop the bloating.

I am a little hungry so I eat, I use the bathroom. I drink fluids.

Was thinking it the stomach flu and not sure how long it takes and such.

The bloating some times feels like I can not get enough air, once it back to normal I feel some what better.
However my eat still not right.

Anything else ask and thanks.

My honest answer would be to try out chi self massage and the six healing sounds by master Mantak Chia. I had similar problems and took medications for my stomach and had constipations regularly. You can find them here https://archive.org/details/chiselfmassageta0000chia
https://archive.org/details/taoistwaystotran00chia
 
Blitzkreig said:
SeerOfSS said:
....banana

The rawness of the banana, plus the actual property of it being "cold", will weaken the stomach. This is why you are feeling full, as the stomach is sort of overly occupied and doesn't want to handle more. Fruits and other cold items are better suited for summer where the body is trying to stay cool and the environment provides abundant yang energy. This is why they grow at that time and not during the winter.

As far as something quick to eat: try canned soup, rice, breads, granola bars if they are unprocessed/little sugar.
If you have more time for meal prep, look at diet advice in the above post.

That makes sense actually.
Good to know to be more careful then.

Though to say, I at banana because my stomach was out of hand per say.
Meaning everything I ate light or not it bloated fast and made me very uncomfy.

Can coffee also make things in thr stomach act up after some time?

I stopped drinking it, then started a little but it was just a cup a day give or take ( some days I wouldn't)
When stomach hit, I stopped. (Wondering)

Then I was also thinking if the cold has an effect too. Of course these just questions so i understand better, so thanks for answer.
 
Blitzkreig said:
SeerOfSS said:

It is either the stomach/spleen or liver. 1) What exactly are/have you been eating?

My guess is that the stomach/spleen got weakened, as that is the most common reason for bloating. The bloating means that food is not being digested properly.

2) How does your stomach feel right after you eat? Do you feel like the food "passes" the stomach? Do you lose your appetite soon after eating?
3) Do you have any headaches, such as frontal or temple headaches?
4) How are your bowel movements? Are they watery or not solid?

You should focus on eating warm foods only, both in temperature and property. The best foods for the stomach and spleen are sweeter foods that are orange or yellow. Something like cooked carrots, squash, rice, sweet potato, etc. Eat these foods and the stomach and spleen will heal. Ginger tea is also good if you can find that, since it is warm and boosts the stomach.

Avoid cold items, with the worst offenders being cold drinks, raw fruit/salads, or large amounts of green veggies. Avoid junk foods and processed sweats/sugar, as this weakens the spleen. Avoid eating late at night, instead preferring the earlier 1/2 of the day for heavier meals.

Stomach flu would involve more cold-like feelings and symptoms and also vomiting. Perhaps you ate something bad that your body sort of continued digesting, resulting in a weakened digestion, but not exactly an infection. That is just my guess.

My bad Blitz, just saw your questions now and reply.

I normally eat eggs, will make steak, or chicken,
I will eat lattice but a lot. If going out to eat about the same, meat with steamed veggies.

Little bread here and there, some sweets, what I usually make or get- what I get is quality.

No I do not lose my appetite, do not really have one, most I get is just body running on nothing.

No can not really say it runs through me.
No I do not lose appetite after it.

No, no headaches unless woken with one for the time in morning then stops over time or have a drink of coffee or something to add pressure.

Before I took the bananas it was mostly water.
Right now its solid.

I have some ginger will have that, I think comes with turmeric and one more I think.
Will check.

Thank you also for the suggestions will get some of that and eat it too.

Thank you, will look to avoid those food for winter.

I head surgery a while ago noe but in rehab so I'm wonder if that has a part in it too.
I can not move as I usually do either like I used to not till rehab and my body part is healed fully ( my knee)

I see on the flu, okay that would make more sense then, where my body could have taken it in.
There was some times I felt small erg to throw up but never.

Thank you again for help
 
Still having issues with my stomach.
Guess no choice but see a doc.


This bloating and effecting my breathing getting annoying and uncomfy now...
 
SeerOfSS said:
Still having issues with my stomach.
Guess no choice but see a doc.
This bloating and effecting my breathing getting annoying and uncomfy now...

Sorry, I forget to respond. You should definitely see a TCM doctor. They will be able to go through everything with you to find out where the issue came from, as well as fixing the spleen/stomach deficiency.

Where did you have surgery? This could definitely be causing this, but obviously it depends where. If it was on the knee, then I don't think it would be related, unless through some medicines you were taking for pain or something.

Diet wise: While meat is nourishing, it is also harder to digest. Normally, it shouldn't cause problems, but since the digestion is weakened, you should instead restrict it. Instead try to eat things like rice, oatmeal, grains, carrots, sweet potato. Only have small amounts of meat and it doesn't have to be with every meal.

Don't eat any artificial sweets to the best of your ability; this will only hurt the digestion more. This can be hard because a deficient spleen can also cause sweetness cravings.

I don't think the coffee alone is an issue, and it certainly wouldn't be the cause. I would advise against drinking it if you just drink that and have nothing else to eat, though. If you are a skinny build (vata dosha), it can be imbalance you, but for kapha people it can actually be helpful.

Does the breathing issue feel like congestion or does it just feel like the lungs aren't descending properly?
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For some immediate relief, you should turn to acupuncture to boost the spleen and stomach and relief the bloating. One of the best points for this is called Stomach-36. It is relatively easy to find, especially if you take your time to find it. See the pictures below, it is in the groove between the bones. You should press it firmly and massage it basically for as long as possible.

This point heals both the stomach and spleen and so you don't have to distinguish between the organs. It is a great point.

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I am still unsure exactly what the cause is. It could be a multitude of little things. Just thinking of other things:

1) Don't eat 2 hours before bed and try to get to bed before 11pm.
2) The probiotics are good to take and you should continue those.
3) Try to eat 3 meals per day. Eat very lightly and prefer something like rice or grains or orange foods at these will benefit the spleen the most.
 
Hey,
Just finished with doctor he said it sounds like IBS

Will look at tcm doc around here.
Though I won't put much in it sense how its ran the town that is.

Survey was in the knee right one. To much distance though. Told this doc and he said to much time in between to be connected.

No, never took anything for it aside the shot they gave my spine to paralyze my lower halve.

As in food, I have been careful with it. However sometimes I feel much better that I eat something good and backfires.

Need to be more patient looks like with it.
Some food for sure makes it worse.

My breathing feels more like my body or lungs can not relax. Can't take that deep breath and relax like normal.

Will try to find that point on the diagram. Thank you. See how it works.

Mean time as said went to the doc he says sounds like IBS -- irritable bowel syndrome.
He proscribed me Dicyclomine 10mg.
Need to look at up.
Was told can dry mouth and eyes.
Bottle says can blurt vision and cause drowsy and dizziness.
The usual stuff along with can make it a little harder to use the bathroom.

Need to go back to see him after 2 weeks if that didnt help need a specialist....
 
SeerOfSS said:

IBS can mean a lot of things. TCM recognizes many different causes for IBS and how to treat it. By the way, there are many online clinics for TCM where you can get diagnosed and prescribed herbs and other lifestyle changes. You can do this completely concurrent with the allopathic doctor.

In addition, TCM possess methods to promote the faster healing of wounds, including the knee, other joints, bone, etc. They would also look at your complaints with your lungs, as well as any other imbalances you may have. In this way, it would be in your best interest to see a TCM clinician.

I don't want to kill your hope in allopathic doctors, but as far as IBS treatment goes: I know a man who had IBS all his life and they just kept increasing his meds until they eventually removed his whole colon. They never asked him to give a food diary, and they told him conflicting dietary advice like don't eat fiber, then they said eat fiber, and so on. I don't think they really know what they are doing, but they made a lot of money from the drugs and surgery, plus other colonoscopies.

----------------------------------

I read a bit on this drug. From wikipedia: "Dicycloverine [Dicyclomine] blocks the action of acetylcholine on cholinergic receptors on smooth muscles in the GI tract, relaxing the smooth muscle. Dicycloverine can cause a range of anticholinergic side effects such as dry mouth, nausea, blurred vision, dizziness, confusion, severe constipation, stomach pain, heart palpitations, difficulty urinating, and seizures"

Even the doctor should know the bloating happens when the food items are acted upon by bacteria in the intestine. This happens because the food items were not properly digested by the spleen and stomach organ systems beforehand. Same way that something rots in your fridge and smells bad. If you weren't constipated, then the intestines were moving just fine.

For your sake I hope it does bring you relief in some form. As far as any long-term recovery though, I wouldn't rely on it for that.

----------------------------------

There is some interplay with the lungs and other parts of the body. For example, the kidneys are responsible for "holding the lungs down". When this does not happen, then the lungs will feel like short of breath or cannot get a full breath. This may or may not be the case, but I think something similar may be happening. Does this happen only when you are feeling bloated, or just in a general sense?

Following this, do you feel other symptoms of not being able to calm down in other parts of your body? Insomnia, anxiety, palpitations, frantic movements, cannot sit still or concentrate well, etc. Do you also feel opposing symptoms, such as cold limbs, weakness, fatigue, tiredness, low motivation? Note, it is possible to feel both of these things at the same time.

If you are a Vata Dosha person, then this is another possible reason for the bloating. This seems more likely than Kapha since you indicated feelings of not being able to calm down, plus if the knee joint was damaged (unless from being overweight). Read the above link and see if that applies to you. If not, then you should find your Dosha/Constitution, as this will point to how your body is most likely to be imbalanced and how to counter this, on a broader scale.

----------------------------------

Food wise, definitely start making a list as to what aggravates you and what does not. Be critical of processed foods because they can contain many different chemicals and ingredients that may aggravate you. Whole foods are easier to judge, but processed foods can be harder. You may have to eliminate specific items, for example.

Be diligent and patient now while the digestive system recovers, but don't think this is something that will have to go on forever. Some food items may be very damaging and should be completely eliminated, but not all. Once healed, the digestion would be able to handle things that may otherwise give you symptoms now.

Lastly, are you able to perform yoga? I assume you might not be able to with the condition of the knee. However, if you look in the Hatha Yoga PDF from Satan's Library, you should pick out a few of the exercises that don't involve the knees. For example, the twisting of the chest, the side stretches, chest stretches, etc. Do as many as you can that don't strain your knees. This should further heal those parts of the body.

The ST36 point will direct the body to specifically heal the stomach and spleen of all ailments. This is what makes it a great and commonly used point. Spend as much time as possible with it to promote healing.
 
Blitzkreig said:
SeerOfSS said:

IBS can mean a lot of things. TCM recognizes many different causes for IBS and how to treat it. By the way, there are many online clinics for TCM where you can get diagnosed and prescribed herbs and other lifestyle changes. You can do this completely concurrent with the allopathic doctor.

In addition, TCM possess methods to promote the faster healing of wounds, including the knee, other joints, bone, etc. They would also look at your complaints with your lungs, as well as any other imbalances you may have. In this way, it would be in your best interest to see a TCM clinician.

I don't want to kill your hope in allopathic doctors, but as far as IBS treatment goes: I know a man who had IBS all his life and they just kept increasing his meds until they eventually removed his whole colon. They never asked him to give a food diary, and they told him conflicting dietary advice like don't eat fiber, then they said eat fiber, and so on. I don't think they really know what they are doing, but they made a lot of money from the drugs and surgery, plus other colonoscopies.

----------------------------------

I read a bit on this drug. From wikipedia: "Dicycloverine [Dicyclomine] blocks the action of acetylcholine on cholinergic receptors on smooth muscles in the GI tract, relaxing the smooth muscle. Dicycloverine can cause a range of anticholinergic side effects such as dry mouth, nausea, blurred vision, dizziness, confusion, severe constipation, stomach pain, heart palpitations, difficulty urinating, and seizures"

Even the doctor should know the bloating happens when the food items are acted upon by bacteria in the intestine. This happens because the food items were not properly digested by the spleen and stomach organ systems beforehand. Same way that something rots in your fridge and smells bad. If you weren't constipated, then the intestines were moving just fine.

For your sake I hope it does bring you relief in some form. As far as any long-term recovery though, I wouldn't rely on it for that.

----------------------------------

There is some interplay with the lungs and other parts of the body. For example, the kidneys are responsible for "holding the lungs down". When this does not happen, then the lungs will feel like short of breath or cannot get a full breath. This may or may not be the case, but I think something similar may be happening. Does this happen only when you are feeling bloated, or just in a general sense?

Following this, do you feel other symptoms of not being able to calm down in other parts of your body? Insomnia, anxiety, palpitations, frantic movements, cannot sit still or concentrate well, etc. Do you also feel opposing symptoms, such as cold limbs, weakness, fatigue, tiredness, low motivation? Note, it is possible to feel both of these things at the same time.

If you are a Vata Dosha person, then this is another possible reason for the bloating. This seems more likely than Kapha since you indicated feelings of not being able to calm down, plus if the knee joint was damaged (unless from being overweight). Read the above link and see if that applies to you. If not, then you should find your Dosha/Constitution, as this will point to how your body is most likely to be imbalanced and how to counter this, on a broader scale.

----------------------------------

Food wise, definitely start making a list as to what aggravates you and what does not. Be critical of processed foods because they can contain many different chemicals and ingredients that may aggravate you. Whole foods are easier to judge, but processed foods can be harder. You may have to eliminate specific items, for example.

Be diligent and patient now while the digestive system recovers, but don't think this is something that will have to go on forever. Some food items may be very damaging and should be completely eliminated, but not all. Once healed, the digestion would be able to handle things that may otherwise give you symptoms now.

Lastly, are you able to perform yoga? I assume you might not be able to with the condition of the knee. However, if you look in the Hatha Yoga PDF from Satan's Library, you should pick out a few of the exercises that don't involve the knees. For example, the twisting of the chest, the side stretches, chest stretches, etc. Do as many as you can that don't strain your knees. This should further heal those parts of the body.

The ST36 point will direct the body to specifically heal the stomach and spleen of all ailments. This is what makes it a great and commonly used point. Spend as much time as possible with it to promote healing.

I tried to look for one close by, I think I found 2 that has at least reviews on it.

My biggest thing is if it is covered under insurance.
Sense im paying for that i need to go for that area other wise its extra. I know i am being picky but in this case the cost can get out of hand fast.

I would rather take herbs and fix it that way then some meds that had massive side effects.

I did drink a herb ginger yesterday after eating and that was weird for me. It felt like it slowed everything down and it really bad me unable to relax the breathing.... Was weird.
Other some time body was back to normal as it is now per say.

The lungs is effected by my stomach. If was not of the stomach problem all would be fine.
Though I understand what your saying.

I am very careful with doctors, so your okay to say that. I have heard of many doctors are in the business for money and early retirement. Many friends or acquaintances I had struggled finding a good doc and always going through bad ones trying and extorting them.

Yeah reading online some says take this or eat this, vs another web. Many webs says its trial and error.
For everyone's IBS can be different just as you said on top.
They categorize it in to 4 groups though only....

West medicine is to use drugs as best as can. None the least yeah I read about some the side effects and that does make me worry.

The feeling of no relax and the lungs not catching a full breath is only during bloating.
Any other time I'm fine.

When I can not get the depth breath I feel kind of slow. Where my body doesn't know how to get more air.
Yesterday when i had the ginger tea the stomach was bloated and my body was trying to get a deep breath. The body had little tangles here and there. My head kind of gotten slightly light head.
Though once all things gone back to normal I feel calmer and more relaxed.
Not sure how else to explain it.

Honestly I have no idea of what you speak of on vata or kapha.
I will look them up but I'm not any of that I do not think so at least.

Yeah I am eating very little and keeping it on the low.
Honestly I would have liked to take something that would help with less side effects.
Though not sure I will have that choice, if got some recommendation would be great... Though understand if cant.

Yeah I can do yoga to my best ability' s so it works and I try to stay on top of that.

I have noticed some times my stomach has some pain I think its from food for I can out pressure and its fine even the rest of my body too. Not sure what kind yet. When I use the bathroom its kind of lump with water kind of thing, of when I went today in the bathroom I felt fine however after dont I kind of felt light headed. Guess normal sense all things twisted inside.
Unless I eat rice and that slows down which then is more normal.

Honestly not sure what else I can say. Think that is everything so far.

Thank you again.... Will try something else aside from that medicine....
 
Blitzkreig said:
SeerOfSS said:

IBS can mean a lot of things. TCM recognizes many different causes for IBS and how to treat it. By the way, there are many online clinics for TCM where you can get diagnosed and prescribed herbs and other lifestyle changes. You can do this completely concurrent with the allopathic doctor.

In addition, TCM possess methods to promote the faster healing of wounds, including the knee, other joints, bone, etc. They would also look at your complaints with your lungs, as well as any other imbalances you may have. In this way, it would be in your best interest to see a TCM clinician.

I don't want to kill your hope in allopathic doctors, but as far as IBS treatment goes: I know a man who had IBS all his life and they just kept increasing his meds until they eventually removed his whole colon. They never asked him to give a food diary, and they told him conflicting dietary advice like don't eat fiber, then they said eat fiber, and so on. I don't think they really know what they are doing, but they made a lot of money from the drugs and surgery, plus other colonoscopies.

----------------------------------

I read a bit on this drug. From wikipedia: "Dicycloverine [Dicyclomine] blocks the action of acetylcholine on cholinergic receptors on smooth muscles in the GI tract, relaxing the smooth muscle. Dicycloverine can cause a range of anticholinergic side effects such as dry mouth, nausea, blurred vision, dizziness, confusion, severe constipation, stomach pain, heart palpitations, difficulty urinating, and seizures"

Even the doctor should know the bloating happens when the food items are acted upon by bacteria in the intestine. This happens because the food items were not properly digested by the spleen and stomach organ systems beforehand. Same way that something rots in your fridge and smells bad. If you weren't constipated, then the intestines were moving just fine.

For your sake I hope it does bring you relief in some form. As far as any long-term recovery though, I wouldn't rely on it for that.

----------------------------------

There is some interplay with the lungs and other parts of the body. For example, the kidneys are responsible for "holding the lungs down". When this does not happen, then the lungs will feel like short of breath or cannot get a full breath. This may or may not be the case, but I think something similar may be happening. Does this happen only when you are feeling bloated, or just in a general sense?

Following this, do you feel other symptoms of not being able to calm down in other parts of your body? Insomnia, anxiety, palpitations, frantic movements, cannot sit still or concentrate well, etc. Do you also feel opposing symptoms, such as cold limbs, weakness, fatigue, tiredness, low motivation? Note, it is possible to feel both of these things at the same time.

If you are a Vata Dosha person, then this is another possible reason for the bloating. This seems more likely than Kapha since you indicated feelings of not being able to calm down, plus if the knee joint was damaged (unless from being overweight). Read the above link and see if that applies to you. If not, then you should find your Dosha/Constitution, as this will point to how your body is most likely to be imbalanced and how to counter this, on a broader scale.

----------------------------------

Food wise, definitely start making a list as to what aggravates you and what does not. Be critical of processed foods because they can contain many different chemicals and ingredients that may aggravate you. Whole foods are easier to judge, but processed foods can be harder. You may have to eliminate specific items, for example.

Be diligent and patient now while the digestive system recovers, but don't think this is something that will have to go on forever. Some food items may be very damaging and should be completely eliminated, but not all. Once healed, the digestion would be able to handle things that may otherwise give you symptoms now.

Lastly, are you able to perform yoga? I assume you might not be able to with the condition of the knee. However, if you look in the Hatha Yoga PDF from Satan's Library, you should pick out a few of the exercises that don't involve the knees. For example, the twisting of the chest, the side stretches, chest stretches, etc. Do as many as you can that don't strain your knees. This should further heal those parts of the body.

The ST36 point will direct the body to specifically heal the stomach and spleen of all ailments. This is what makes it a great and commonly used point. Spend as much time as possible with it to promote healing.

Hey, here is another question. Being low in the acid from my stomach. I just found out it has been 4 weeks about sense it started.

The shot I had was on my spine to number lower.
Ever sense then things has not been right.

Thanks
 
SeerOfSS said:
Hey, here is another question. Being low in the acid from my stomach. I just found out it has been 4 weeks about sense it started.

The shot I had was on my spine to number lower.
Ever sense then things has not been right.

Thanks

Just so I understand you correctly: You had a shot on your spine to lower the stomach acid? Low stomach acid will definitely cause bloating by obstructing the digestive process.

If this is the case, what was the shot for? Hopefully its effects will go away soon.
 
Blitzkreig said:
SeerOfSS said:
Hey, here is another question. Being low in the acid from my stomach. I just found out it has been 4 weeks about sense it started.

The shot I had was on my spine to number lower.
Ever sense then things has not been right.

Thanks

Just so I understand you correctly: You had a shot on your spine to lower the stomach acid? Low stomach acid will definitely cause bloating by obstructing the digestive process.

If this is the case, what was the shot for? Hopefully its effects will go away soon.

Oh no, my bad I didnt explain enough.

No I had the shot in my spine for my knee to be worked on.

I was reading that low acid can cause issues such as IBS.
So wanted to ask if that can happen in this case.

I took that pill that my doctor prescribed and no. Can not take it again. I see it can help some what with stomach though the side effects will effect my work also which can move over to the next day also.
Didn't like that at all.

I was able to find a clinic that does TCM close by so will go see what they say.
Even if I do not stick with it. It can be a second outside opinion that can lead to better.

Other wise I am going to a specialist for my stomach issue on next few days.

Honestly I feel like I just want to lose my mind around it for its sucks and annoying and really not helping me with me moving forward.

Hate it.....
 
SeerOfSS said:
I was reading that low acid can cause issues such as IBS.
So wanted to ask if that can happen in this case.

I took that pill that my doctor prescribed and no. Can not take it again. I see it can help some what with stomach though the side effects will effect my work also which can move over to the next day also.
Didn't like that at all.

I was able to find a clinic that does TCM close by so will go see what they say.
Even if I do not stick with it. It can be a second outside opinion that can lead to better.

Other wise I am going to a specialist for my stomach issue on next few days.

Honestly I feel like I just want to lose my mind around it for its sucks and annoying and really not helping me with me moving forward.

Hate it.....

Oh ok, I understand now.

Yes, low stomach acid can be a cause, like I mentioned. This would be classified as stomach deficiency by the TCM clinic and they would give you treatment for that. If you noticed pain specifically from or in the stomach, then this would be a likely cause of bloating.

I am glad you were able to find a clinic; I think you will find your resolution there. My advice before you visit would be to write down all the symptoms you have with as much detail as possible. Then, write down everything surrounding your lifestyle like how you sleep, what you eat, exercise, what you do for work, etc. Mention what happened with the ginger tea as well. This will help them in diagnosing and also fully correcting the root causes.

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You mentioned cost and insurance: This depends on the clinic and insurance companies, unfortunately. To keep costs low, I would advise skipping acupuncture and instead just seeing them for herbal formulas and checking in with the clinician. It is not that acupuncture doesn't help, but it will be costlier than the herbal formulas.

Furthermore, once you have your full diagnosis of any imbalances, you can do a lot on your own to correct these. Usually it is the diagnosis itself that you are really paying for. You can get a lot of herbal formulas online, but knowing which ones to take can be hard.

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I understand your frustration with your health issue. I think once the bloating is stopped, then your body will be able to receive much more nourishment and energy, allowing it to fully heal and prevent this from happening again. Like I said, I have high hopes for the TCM clinic. They will be able to figure out exactly where the imbalances lie and hopefully what caused it.
 
SeerOfSS said:
Blitzkreig said:
SeerOfSS said:
Hey, here is another question. Being low in the acid from my stomach. I just found out it has been 4 weeks about sense it started.

The shot I had was on my spine to number lower.
Ever sense then things has not been right.

Thanks

Just so I understand you correctly: You had a shot on your spine to lower the stomach acid? Low stomach acid will definitely cause bloating by obstructing the digestive process.

If this is the case, what was the shot for? Hopefully its effects will go away soon.

Oh no, my bad I didnt explain enough.

No I had the shot in my spine for my knee to be worked on.

I was reading that low acid can cause issues such as IBS.
So wanted to ask if that can happen in this case.

I took that pill that my doctor prescribed and no. Can not take it again. I see it can help some what with stomach though the side effects will effect my work also which can move over to the next day also.
Didn't like that at all.

I was able to find a clinic that does TCM close by so will go see what they say.
Even if I do not stick with it. It can be a second outside opinion that can lead to better.

Other wise I am going to a specialist for my stomach issue on next few days.

Honestly I feel like I just want to lose my mind around it for its sucks and annoying and really not helping me with me moving forward.

Hate it.....

Went to TCM DR. Tried to do acupuncture and it didn't work.
He said I have a lot of issues inside anxiety and stuff.

He couldn't recommend any of his herbs do to that.

So I guess I'm more stressed or my body is then I realize.
Just do not feel it like I normally do.....

With the issues and outside influence I guess I'm letting it get to me.

Will try to go back to him again. He also said take b12 a shot or some vitamins though takes longer to take effect will help with pills as its known.
 
Blitzkreig said:
SeerOfSS said:
I was reading that low acid can cause issues such as IBS.
So wanted to ask if that can happen in this case.

I took that pill that my doctor prescribed and no. Can not take it again. I see it can help some what with stomach though the side effects will effect my work also which can move over to the next day also.
Didn't like that at all.

I was able to find a clinic that does TCM close by so will go see what they say.
Even if I do not stick with it. It can be a second outside opinion that can lead to better.

Other wise I am going to a specialist for my stomach issue on next few days.

Honestly I feel like I just want to lose my mind around it for its sucks and annoying and really not helping me with me moving forward.

Hate it.....

Oh ok, I understand now.

Yes, low stomach acid can be a cause, like I mentioned. This would be classified as stomach deficiency by the TCM clinic and they would give you treatment for that. If you noticed pain specifically from or in the stomach, then this would be a likely cause of bloating.

I am glad you were able to find a clinic; I think you will find your resolution there. My advice before you visit would be to write down all the symptoms you have with as much detail as possible. Then, write down everything surrounding your lifestyle like how you sleep, what you eat, exercise, what you do for work, etc. Mention what happened with the ginger tea as well. This will help them in diagnosing and also fully correcting the root causes.

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You mentioned cost and insurance: This depends on the clinic and insurance companies, unfortunately. To keep costs low, I would advise skipping acupuncture and instead just seeing them for herbal formulas and checking in with the clinician. It is not that acupuncture doesn't help, but it will be costlier than the herbal formulas.

Furthermore, once you have your full diagnosis of any imbalances, you can do a lot on your own to correct these. Usually it is the diagnosis itself that you are really paying for. You can get a lot of herbal formulas online, but knowing which ones to take can be hard.

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I understand your frustration with your health issue. I think once the bloating is stopped, then your body will be able to receive much more nourishment and energy, allowing it to fully heal and prevent this from happening again. Like I said, I have high hopes for the TCM clinic. They will be able to figure out exactly where the imbalances lie and hopefully what caused it.

Hey, today done a lot better then last time with my TCM Dr.

He gave me herbal supplement now to take with it.
He said it's to help with the whole digestive area.

Bao he wan comes with 7 ingredients in it.

No idea how to upload picture. Will try to figure it out though...
 
SeerOfSS said:
Hey, today done a lot better then last time with my TCM Dr.

He gave me herbal supplement now to take with it.
He said it's to help with the whole digestive area.

Bao he wan comes with 7 ingredients in it.

No idea how to upload picture. Will try to figure it out though...

That's great news! Don't worry about a picture, I read about the formula here. To upload a picture to the forums, it first needs to be hosted somewhere, such as imgur. Once you have the URL, you then click the insert image button (looks like a picture), and paste the URL inside it. Preview your post to make sure it is formatted correctly.

I am happy you got something to help from the physical side of things. I was a little confused why that didn't happen from the start. Even if your symptoms are originating from a purely mental side of things, physical symptoms are now being had and can be reversed. I am hopeful that a greater influx of food will start to calm your body down as well. Take things slowly, however, and let the stomach build up its strength before you eat a giant meal.

As far as the anxiety goes, did he mention anything physical? I thought he would try something. The kidney system is responsible for managing stress and those sorts of feelings, for example.

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If you think purely mentally, I agree that stress is starting to ramp up, however I just try to take things one step at a time. Prioritize the important stuff and so on. Of course you know that the Gods are always looking out for you, so you don't have to live in actual fear.

As far as addressing internal anxiety more directly, I had the thought pop into my head that maybe you could look at your natal chart to see what kinds of things might stress you out more than others. You might be able to face your issues more directly, or at least view them in a better light. This is something you would have to do more or less on your own, because it isn't wise to share specific natal details here.

Lastly, another piece of advice I would have is meditating on the energy of the Gods. GiTM mentioned how he would do this in times of stress and it would always calm him down and make him feel better.

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I also wanted to mention to you the idea of doing qigong for specific organs. For example, you can do qigong for the element of earth (the stomach/spleen), the element of water (kidneys/bladder) for stress management. You can also try qigong for the element of metal (lungs/large intestine) if you think this needs help as well.

You don't need to do any elaborate routines. Mimi Kuo-Deemer has videos for each element. There are long videos, but she also has these short ones with one exercise per element. The exercise, based on the movements and where your hands touch, add energy directly into the meridians of the organs.

Water Element Qigong

Earth Element Qigong

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Anyway, I am glad you are sticking with the treatment. I think some people get discouraged or don't grasp it entirely. You should also ask about if the Dr. can speed the healing of your knee, if that is preventing you from doing certain yoga movements or whatever.
 
Blitzkreig said:
SeerOfSS said:
Hey, today done a lot better then last time with my TCM Dr.

He gave me herbal supplement now to take with it.
He said it's to help with the whole digestive area.

Bao he wan comes with 7 ingredients in it.

No idea how to upload picture. Will try to figure it out though...

That's great news! Don't worry about a picture, I read about the formula here. To upload a picture to the forums, it first needs to be hosted somewhere, such as imgur. Once you have the URL, you then click the insert image button (looks like a picture), and paste the URL inside it. Preview your post to make sure it is formatted correctly.

I am happy you got something to help from the physical side of things. I was a little confused why that didn't happen from the start. Even if your symptoms are originating from a purely mental side of things, physical symptoms are now being had and can be reversed. I am hopeful that a greater influx of food will start to calm your body down as well. Take things slowly, however, and let the stomach build up its strength before you eat a giant meal.

As far as the anxiety goes, did he mention anything physical? I thought he would try something. The kidney system is responsible for managing stress and those sorts of feelings, for example.

----------------------------

If you think purely mentally, I agree that stress is starting to ramp up, however I just try to take things one step at a time. Prioritize the important stuff and so on. Of course you know that the Gods are always looking out for you, so you don't have to live in actual fear.

As far as addressing internal anxiety more directly, I had the thought pop into my head that maybe you could look at your natal chart to see what kinds of things might stress you out more than others. You might be able to face your issues more directly, or at least view them in a better light. This is something you would have to do more or less on your own, because it isn't wise to share specific natal details here.

Lastly, another piece of advice I would have is meditating on the energy of the Gods. GiTM mentioned how he would do this in times of stress and it would always calm him down and make him feel better.

----------------------------


I also wanted to mention to you the idea of doing qigong for specific organs. For example, you can do qigong for the element of earth (the stomach/spleen), the element of water (kidneys/bladder) for stress management. You can also try qigong for the element of metal (lungs/large intestine) if you think this needs help as well.

You don't need to do any elaborate routines. Mimi Kuo-Deemer has videos for each element. There are long videos, but she also has these short ones with one exercise per element. The exercise, based on the movements and where your hands touch, add energy directly into the meridians of the organs.

Water Element Qigong

Earth Element Qigong

----------------------------

Anyway, I am glad you are sticking with the treatment. I think some people get discouraged or don't grasp it entirely. You should also ask about if the Dr. can speed the healing of your knee, if that is preventing you from doing certain yoga movements or whatever.

Hey, thanks for explaining that. Will try to keep that in mind for next time.

Yeah so far everything is going well enough. Though I'm still a little unstable per say.
The fact that i feel better though helps in more then one way.
Checked my wait I'm down to 184 (think within a week or 2 I went from 189 to 184). Still more for my hight but then I'm still in the worry side, (though im trying to stay positive on it)

Has for the Anxiety he didnt say much but take a bath with some salt and herbs per say and try to relax.

Yeah I'm trying now to get back and trying to enjoy the days, struggling but will see in a few more weeks.

After I read your message I wanted to check it. Though forgot.
Need to remember to reread it again. Though if remember right anxiety was not on there as issue. Was something else. Will check though to make sure.
Thanks for reminding me again.

Respect for the family member to being able to.
Though im not sure im able to or cut to. Will look in to it again though and maybe try.
(Though sadly I have been slacking a lot that it hurts me and our cause)

Yeah thanks just saw her video again.
I have done hers in the past, I done the 8 Brocade last time as I did it again today.
Will try to get back in routine along with adding qi gong.

So thanks.

A side question though.
Not sure yet what it means but rather watching move or playing games (some) or such. I get emotional around that a little more then normal. Of course not all the time. Then also comes down it always revolves around death or a child in some way I feel like I want to tear up some and cry.
Of course it may mean nothing too.

Thank you
 
SeerOfSS said:

Yeah so far everything is going well enough. Though I'm still a little unstable per say.
The fact that i feel better though helps in more then one way.
Checked my wait I'm down to 184 (think within a week or 2 I went from 189 to 184). Still more for my hight but then I'm still in the worry side, (though im trying to stay positive on it)

Don't worry too much about the weight right now. It will go back to normal eventually. Just focus on doing the right actions for your health each day.

How does your digestion seem?

Has for the Anxiety he didnt say much but take a bath with some salt and herbs per say and try to relax.
Yeah I'm trying now to get back and trying to enjoy the days, struggling but will see in a few more weeks.

Though im not sure im able to or cut to. Will look in to it again though and maybe try.
(Though sadly I have been slacking a lot that it hurts me and our cause)

That must mean he thought the anxiety was more mental in nature, otherwise he would've seen physical symptoms and mentioned them.

It is important to take time off for yourself during the day. Don't feel bad about it. There is a limit to everyone. Eventually you can increase your limit, but don't push so far that you burn out or feel bad. Don't beat yourself up about not doing enough work, just keep trying every day.

I don't know what you are already doing, but you should increase your void meditation. This would have the dual benefit of calming you down and also increasing your willpower for more work. In this way, it will help you feel able to resist slacking and anxious thinking.

I personally start with a small amount and do it in reps. Like 5 mins, then rest 2 minutes, then do it again a few times. This allows me to focus more than if I just did all 15 or 20 minutes at once. It also makes it easier to convince myself to just start with a little bit, instead of the whole session.

A side question though.
Not sure yet what it means but rather watching move or playing games (some) or such. I get emotional around that a little more then normal. Of course not all the time. Then also comes down it always revolves around death or a child in some way I feel like I want to tear up some and cry.
Of course it may mean nothing too.

Hmm. It could be something, but it is hard to tell. Just monitor it.
The liver helps in processing emotions and can result in extra crying if it gets stagnated. If this applied to you, you would have a bunch of other physical symptoms though.

It could also be mental, like if you are already stressed, then you watch something that is also a little stressful, it can be somewhat overwhelming.

What you describe sounds like pretty normal circumstances to feel sad anyway.
 
Bao He Wan is prescribed for food stagnation.

The key diagnostic principles for this syndrome are sour regurgitation/burping and feeling of fullness in the stomach.

When pressing on the abdomen, any masses or lumpy feelings will not move and will feel uncomfortable.

If there is an absence of regurgitation and masses on the abdomen move around when pressed, this indicates qi stagnation.

Qi stagnation can accompany food stagnation and visa versa.
 
Blitzkreig said:
SeerOfSS said:

Yeah so far everything is going well enough. Though I'm still a little unstable per say.
The fact that i feel better though helps in more then one way.
Checked my wait I'm down to 184 (think within a week or 2 I went from 189 to 184). Still more for my hight but then I'm still in the worry side, (though im trying to stay positive on it)

Don't worry too much about the weight right now. It will go back to normal eventually. Just focus on doing the right actions for your health each day.

How does your digestion seem?

Has for the Anxiety he didnt say much but take a bath with some salt and herbs per say and try to relax.
Yeah I'm trying now to get back and trying to enjoy the days, struggling but will see in a few more weeks.

Though im not sure im able to or cut to. Will look in to it again though and maybe try.
(Though sadly I have been slacking a lot that it hurts me and our cause)

That must mean he thought the anxiety was more mental in nature, otherwise he would've seen physical symptoms and mentioned them.

It is important to take time off for yourself during the day. Don't feel bad about it. There is a limit to everyone. Eventually you can increase your limit, but don't push so far that you burn out or feel bad. Don't beat yourself up about not doing enough work, just keep trying every day.

I don't know what you are already doing, but you should increase your void meditation. This would have the dual benefit of calming you down and also increasing your willpower for more work. In this way, it will help you feel able to resist slacking and anxious thinking.

I personally start with a small amount and do it in reps. Like 5 mins, then rest 2 minutes, then do it again a few times. This allows me to focus more than if I just did all 15 or 20 minutes at once. It also makes it easier to convince myself to just start with a little bit, instead of the whole session.

A side question though.
Not sure yet what it means but rather watching move or playing games (some) or such. I get emotional around that a little more then normal. Of course not all the time. Then also comes down it always revolves around death or a child in some way I feel like I want to tear up some and cry.
Of course it may mean nothing too.

Hmm. It could be something, but it is hard to tell. Just monitor it.
The liver helps in processing emotions and can result in extra crying if it gets stagnated. If this applied to you, you would have a bunch of other physical symptoms though.

It could also be mental, like if you are already stressed, then you watch something that is also a little stressful, it can be somewhat overwhelming.

What you describe sounds like pretty normal circumstances to feel sad anyway.

Okay, thank you. I have calmed down much sense everything and feel better as I said.
With that said my digestion is a lot better. I'm taking a little bit of that medicine the herb and I'm also taking vitamin b12 supplement as he recommended. Both seems to help a lot.

I'm still a little worry for my BM is not what I'm used to. Example its slow still and some times it can be lumps or not and ots back to regular or kind of mix per say. Of course no blood and no pain aside of around my stomach.

Around my stomach I do get little sharp pains kind of needle per say.
I'm thinking that is a lot of the slow down of the stomach and the weight lost trying to adjust.
Right now I have a fat part the lumps down like a fat person normally have and that has a little bit of pain. It feels more like a muscle thing but cant tell.
When my stomach is full I feel it more and during sex I feel that part the pressure there.

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=fat+bellow+the+belly+botton+that+hat+hangs+on+belly&t=brave&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fcdn.powerofpositivity.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2017%2F03%2Fmelt-stubborn-belly-fat-subcutaneous.jpg

Its like that per say. Not sure how else to explain.
Though im thinking it is prob normal sense ita pressure and its kind of going away.

Yeah he noticed I have been doing a lot better and I'm a lot more calmer though I will get the topical scare but nothing that just relaxing I feel normal again.
He done my back also last time I saw him and that went fine to with a slight scare that was easily fixed and it was good.
Have to slow down going there though sense funds are getting tighter now.

Yeah right now I am back to square 1 and just trying to stay low, cleaning some and protection. While trying to do qi gong and I tryed adding void.
Will try the break down as you do. Regain some control again.
Thank you.

Okay thank you, it sounds more normal then.
My emotions around that is kind of stressed.
Especially sense I worry about my son and losing him.
Do not get me wrong he is fine and happy and such.
Though when he leaves to go to his mother I get unhappy even though hes in same town and I know hes safe.

I think i have a better understanding now per say.
Which comes down to this winter and my current dating she is not of our religion so I think much emotion is from there sense I'm trying to figure it out.
I'm iffy on showing our web but we have spoken about it.
Last time we spoke I noticed she is more open.
One of her symptoms per say is when something is wrong in family or friend like someone is going to die she starts smelling the flower called carnations.

So I'm trying to figure all this out based on try to help or move on kind of attitude.

Anyways thank you again for helping and giving info.
Sorry its always long writhing.

(Of my family have got their c19 shots ://)(oh well)
 
Centralforce666 said:
Bao He Wan is prescribed for food stagnation.

The key diagnostic principles for this syndrome are sour regurgitation/burping and feeling of fullness in the stomach.

When pressing on the abdomen, any masses or lumpy feelings will not move and will feel uncomfortable.

If there is an absence of regurgitation and masses on the abdomen move around when pressed, this indicates qi stagnation.

Qi stagnation can accompany food stagnation and visa versa.

Okay that is really good to know, thank you.

It does help move things normally per say, based on how I eat that is.

So far the only few things i have are fat under the skin stuck.

No idea of other things deeper. Though back to normal for most part.

Thank you again to telling me that.
 

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