Thank you for explaining, our thoughts on this are in line with each other completely It seems I keep misunderstanding you though haha.Alt123 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 7:54 pmI think you misunderstood what I meant; I did not take anything to an extreme. Also, I haven't noticed anyone ridicule me in this thread so far. If someone intended to, then I did not take it personally. If anything was directed towards me specifically, then I apologise for not noticing. When it comes to this topic, there are so many crazy people that I strongly agree with most of the criticisms.Artisan wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 11:26 amYou seem to have an issue with taking things to the extreme. It seems that you are taking the things I say and viewing them as either black and white. You need to find balance in the middle.Alt123 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 10:35 pm
I was afraid of being ridiculed because of what I went through or because of the way I worded things, so I pre-emptively ridiculed myself and apologised. But that's no different from doing to myself what I was afraid of in the first place. It's not a good habit.
You helped me realise that there's no need to be afraid in the first place. Even if others ridicule me, it's only because they dislike me or don't understand me. What others think doesn't change what I went through or how it affected me.
I appreciate your advice. I think you tried to convey it before but I didn't really understand it at first because the context was different; but now I understand. It's very good advice.
Yes, there will be those who ridicule you out of disliking you or not understanding, however, there are also those who will ridicule you out of caring and compassion, out a desire to help you, for instance, I can assure you that those who have ridiculed you in this thread have done it out of a desire to help you. I can see the kindness in all of their replies, and in some, I can feel the compassion of their energy. We are a family here and we care for one another.
What I was trying to convey to you is to stop viewing the world through the perspective of others, stop letting others opinions and beliefs affect your self image.
I was not saying to ignore others. There is valuable information that others will try to give you and it's important to not ignore that. Even if someone disagrees with you, is rude to you, even if you choose not to talk to them, it is very important to learn from their words. There are many here who are more knowledgeable than either of us, and sure, that doesn't mean they will always be right, or that we will always be wrong and that's fine, we are humans and we make mistakes.
What isn't fine is to ignore other peoples knowledge, when learning something new you must make sure you don't let your emotion or your logic cloud your judgement. When someone says something, especially one of your brothers and sisters, it is important to think about it with a rational mind which has an active balance of logic and emotion.
Avoid thinking with one side only, if you think only with logic, then you will avoid all nuances and signs which will come from your emotional, creative, and spiritual understanding.
If you think only with emotion, then you will avoid all the nuances and signs which will come from your reasoning, inquisitive, and material understanding.
There must be balance in all areas of life, this is true regardless of what you are trying to achieve, balance is a must.
I've always tried to learn from it so I can try to and make sure that I do not fall into the same traps that others were ridiculed for. Ensuring I always do the best thing has always been very important to me, so I take all the knowledge I can get into consideration.
I should have been more precise with my words, as I meant undue ridicule specifically.
Last year I made a mistake, and I was ridiculed for it by a friend. That served as a warning not to make that kind of mistake again, so I took it to heart and felt ashamed. I didn't particularly need that feedback as I felt ashamed to begin with, but my friend neither disliked me nor misunderstood me; I was simply deserving of ridicule at that time. I'm well aware that ridicule serves a purpose in social interactions and can sometimes be a positive influence.
I'll reiterate now what I meant. If others ridicule me unduly, it is only because they dislike me or misunderstand me. If neither of those are the case, then it would be due.
In the case of my trauma and how I healed from it, I was not able to convey it fully which could lead to misunderstandings, and even if it might seem insignificant to someone else it still affected me a lot, so saying that it should not have affected me would have been pointless, since it did. I realised that even if someone ridiculed me for that, it would be completely pointless to let it bother me.
Do you disagree? You said yourself that different people are sensitive to different things, so I assume you agree.
What I realised is that even if someone misunderstands or dislikes me, it doesn't harm me; my internal state remains the same unless I choose to let it bother me. Isn't that what you wanted to convey to me?
I have no intention of ignoring people's knowledge; I always take the things I hear or read into consideration, taking the credibility of the source as well as the context into account, then see how it fits in with all the other knowledge I have. In fact, most of my current knowledge comes from conversations I had with people at some point in my life. It's one of the reasons I enjoy talking to people so much. It allows me to acquire knowledge from other people's perspectives as I listen, and then I can organise it as I reply.
By the way, did you receive my email this time?
Also, yes I got your email and replied.
My pleasure, also, I accept your gratitude as it is for your own sake and not for mine.Alt123 wrote: ↑Wed Apr 14, 2021 10:46 pmI forgot to say earlier, but I read all of this post, and I understand what you mean now.Artisan wrote: ↑Tue Apr 13, 2021 9:09 pmIn a sense yes, there must be balance however, it is important to eliminate ignorance about yourself. Start out with the large parts of your nature after you have worked out the ignorance of the large parts of your nature, move to the smaller parts.
An easy way to figure out where to start is to monitor your own speech and thoughts, write down anything you say or think for an entire day which involves self-ignorance.
I respect your choice of not accepting expressions of gratitude, but I feel like I would appear ungrateful if I don't thank you, and that makes me uncomfortable.
As such, I will thank you for my own sake regardless. Thank you for taking the time to write such a clear, in-depth explanation.