Will I question??

[McKayla Heide]

I couldn't sleep last night due to a certain thought. When I was a Xian when I was younger, I always questioned why "God" (JC or god is israel) let shit happen to the world if he's so powerful. I used to think, wow, he so "powerful" yet he can't feed, clothe or shelter all humans, etc. to other thoughts like, god is such an asshole for creating our bodies so weak and needy and prone to illness/disease, etc. These along with a billion other thoughts is what led me to my hatred for the abrahamic god and eventually to my atheism. After many years of researching other religions, I came to the conclusion that no matter what god one believes in (and there's billions), the results are the same: you'll end up disappointed and questioning. Make sense?
If not, heres an example; let's take the above questions I had for the abrahamic god. I asked in my head why the fuck is he an asshole and made humans so fucking needy and yet can't shelter, feed or clothe them, etc. Right? Now, let's say I went to join 500 other beliefs (I didn't of course) and I end up asking the same questions about these other 500 gods like I did with the abrahamic god!! In the end, I could conclude that if any gods exist, the results are the same: they don't care about humanity and made us needy because they're all assholes. Does that make sense?
So, what if I ask these same questions about being an Zevism?? I'll be bold and say I'll be so angry if this is another false belief system. I'm not trying to be rude or disrespectful, but I'm just making a point. I'm still atheist-agnostic borderline until my friend knows something. Yes, she's working on the 40-Day meditation program for now. She's asked me to try dedicating, I told her absolutely not until she experiences something.
This should all tell you how cautious I am when it comes to spiritual beliefs. Like I said before, I will not put myself in a situation like I did with fucking xianity! I have lots of self-respect and I will not put myself in shit again.

 

[descipleofthegods13]

I'm going to repeat myself for your own good. Satan IS NOT a genie whom will do whatever you want Him to. For all you know your friend could not have an experience with Satan for more than a year from now if it even happens. Satan hates petty reasons from people whom don't have a truly serious mindset about Spiritual Satanism.

For all you know, He may not choose to appear to her at all because the reason may be petty entirely.
Then what will you do? Fall back to Atheism? what then left is there for you? Aren't you seeking the Truth instead of some comfortable feel good?

You're obviously interested in Spiritual Satanism, you CAN'T go on someone else's experiences at all. What she may experience you may not at all. Do you see what I am saying? You have to tread this path on your own.

 

[zolaluckystar1]

McKayla,
Many people here have tried to answer you and guide you. I have personally tried very hard to help you. I've invested a lot of my valuable time to answer to the best of my ability. But I'm done now. I think the bottom line is you must read and study in Library of Thoth and on JOS, read the Sermons from our HP's and then either make a commitment...or not. Decide or not. There isn't much more to be said. As you have stressed many times, you have to experience these things for yourself. So, start to do the work and experience for yourself....or not. There are, in the end, no mediators in Zevism.
It was not kind or helpful/supportive to be dismissive to your friend who is doing the work and you were mocking her. At least she has chosen and is forging ahead on a new path. This is honourable. While you sit on the fence. No matter how hurt you are - everyone here has been hurt - it is by how we choose to respond to being hurt, that defines us. There comes a time when you man up, make a decision. So make your decision. To learn and advance, or not. You have to take that step by yourself; no one can do it for you.

 

[McKayla Heide]

Satan IS NOT a genie whom will do whatever you want Him to."
Neither is the god of abraham. Or the other billions of gods that humanity made up.
You know, when I was a xian, I asked the same thing, why won't christ appear if he exists. I received a similar response from pastors and lay people: "Christ is not a genie to appear, you must have faith and build a relationship with him, then you'll see evidence he exists!" Can you see why I'm skeptical?
"Satan hates petty reasons from people whom don't have a truly serious mindset about Spiritual Satanism."
If he does exist, then he should UNDERSTAND WHY I'm skeptical! He should realize why this is hard for me to accept.
Fine, I'll do this at least, I'll just talk to him, maybe look at his sigil. Even if I obviously can't see him, I'll look out for signs. If I see ONE sign at least, then I might seriously consider it.

  I'm going to repeat myself for your own good. Satan IS NOT a genie whom will do whatever you want Him to. For all you know your friend could not have an experience with Satan for more than a year from now if it even happens. Satan hates petty reasons from people whom don't have a truly serious mindset about Spiritual Satanism.

For all you know, He may not choose to appear to her at all because the reason may be petty entirely.
Then what will you do? Fall back to Atheism? what then left is there for you? Aren't you seeking the Truth instead of some comfortable feel good?

You're obviously interested in Spiritual Satanism, you CAN'T go on someone else's experiences at all. What she may experience you may not at all. Do you see what I am saying? You have to tread this path on your own.

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[descipleofthegods13]

Actually Jehovah is more like a genie whom grants wishes, and makes billions of promises. If you further read the website you will come to understand how this "priest" deceived you with it's lying bullshit.

You see, the character known as Jesus was meant to replace Satan, and because of how things have been set into motion, people subconsciously believe that Jesus is Satan. It plays into people's memories of Satan and brain washes them entirely.

Jesus makes billions of promises like a genie in the bible, and the harder you serve the lying jerk the more "wishes" you will be granted.

Satan doesn't teach dependence and being humble, and weak like that. He teaches up how to make our own desires come true. Satan also sees into people's Soul's and knows one true intent unlike the fictitious nazarene whom claims to be able to do that yet can't even figure out the simplest of things about the person.

As long as you are a slave to Jesus, it doesn't care what your wishes and desires are or how many of them you ask for. Satan is different in that He will give you ONLY what you need, and maybe 'some' things you want, but it is all guided towards you attaining Godhood not something that is useless to you like say Jesus granting you a 72 inch flat screen TV, that is useless.

If you choose this path you will see for yourself.

 

[McKayla Heide]

"As long as you are a slave to Jesus, it doesn't care what your wishes and desires are or how many of them you ask for. Satan is different in that He will give you ONLY what you need, and maybe 'some' things you want, but it is all guided towards you attaining Godhood not something that is useless to you like say Jesus granting you a 72 inch flat screen TV, that is useless."
My "prayers", desires, wishes, etc. were never granted, not one as a slave to christ. I never asked for useless shit. I would never ask for a flat screen because, believe it or not, I don't watch TV. Then later I realized why, he doesn't exist.

  Actually Jehovah is more like a genie whom grants wishes, and makes billions of promises. If you further read the website you will come to understand how this "priest" deceived you with it's lying bullshit.

You see, the character known as Jesus was meant to replace Satan, and because of how things have been set into motion, people subconsciously believe that Jesus is Satan. It plays into people's memories of Satan and brain washes them entirely.

Jesus makes billions of promises like a genie in the bible, and the harder you serve the lying jerk the more "wishes" you will be granted.

Satan doesn't teach dependence and being humble, and weak like that. He teaches up how to make our own desires come true. Satan also sees into people's Soul's and knows one true intent unlike the fictitious nazarene whom claims to be able to do that yet can't even figure out the simplest of things about the person.

As long as you are a slave to Jesus, it doesn't care what your wishes and desires are or how many of them you ask for. Satan is different in that He will give you ONLY what you need, and maybe 'some' things you want, but it is all guided towards you attaining Godhood not something that is useless to you like say Jesus granting you a 72 inch flat screen TV, that is useless.

If you choose this path you will see for yourself.

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[makesyouperfect]

when I first cam across jos I wasn't skeptical... I was hysterical but as I realized what I was laughing at(Pythia and her conversations with satan) I ended up feeling real embarrassed,like a monkey that knows he did something wrong,you can just feel it when your heart chakra releases energy all the way up to your eyes.
my actual satanic "journey" was quite a naïve and petty endeavor when I was first doing meditations,i even amended my dedication prayer by asking him to let me try on my own without satans help.
for whatever reason, people don't understand the magnitude of anything until they have something in life to take seriously, and ones thoughts are greatly influenced by all kinds of things its possible she just doesn't have enough of a grip on herself to take action for what SHE wants, its just a weird flaw in her logic,but I don't think that she means to be annoying, yes Satan absolutely does understand skepticism, and its perfectly ok but when you said "fine ill of this at least" like we are trying to sell Satanism to you, its retarded to wait for your friend to make progress before you even consider Satanism. are you even going to believe her when she does experience something? find out for yourself, because satan is not going to come to you if your attitude is "fine if he shows me but ONE sign I might consider him" maybe try being more humble, youre not too good to invest your own time and energy into yourself are you? and your certainly not to good to give the benefit of the doubt to our creator

hail satan

 

[zolaluckystar1]

Thank you, HP Zevios Metathronos. I've tried really hard to help this person but I've reached the end of my patience. And started to wonder if I'm wasting my time. This person has been granted a LOT of help - more than most - and yet, still, all he does is whine, deny and 'question'. I'm done. Thank you for putting the period on the end of the sentence.
Hail Satan!In Glory and Power Exalted!

 

[f4072e7ca152a283253018267c599d33]

OP, I went through everything you described with Zevism. It happened, and it happened hard to me. Every question you have, I had. I was so paranoid at one point I was ready to believed every spiritual thing to ever happen to me was government manipulation.

My experiences may help you, for I'm still trying to fully get out of the boat you're in.

Before my s.o showed me JoS my life moto was "Question everything!" This helped me severally survive this backassward xian system. As a kid I was looking around during prays and staring at people, questioning the point of all of this. (Later in my journey I felt this was due to being a Zevism in a previous life) I hated church, so I created tons of questions, questions no one could answer and I fell away from the church.  From when I moved away from the church to the time I was brought to Satanism their was about a 6-9 year gap where I paid zero attention to anything spiritual yet things still happened. I saw ghosts, had physic permissions, I'd see shadow beings and I'd hear things speak to me. This scared the piss out of me. I thought I was going schizophrenic, and convinced myself I was crazy. Thinking I was crazy made it easier to go through normal life until someone told me "crazy people don't think they're crazy." My experiences were heightening and I loved ghost hunting and trying to see spirits, I even had a conversation with one, for about 30 seconds, thinking it to be an actual person until she faded out and left me flabbergasted. I always had this aching feeling that there was something wrong with the world, and I was always very drawn toward anything satanic. (My favorite colors are Blue, Red and Black and they've been so since I was young). Yet, my experiences dwindled out. I was diagnoised with ADHD and was put on the almost highest dosage of Concerta, even after getting off the Concerta; I was put on the lowest dose of Adderal (lowest dose due to the Concerta messing me up so badly). I didn't realize it at the time, but this hampered me a lot. I also started smoking weed my junior year of high school, then drinking and in a couple years my spiritual experiences slowed tremendously. I stopped seeing things, started only believing in my eyes, I stopped searching for something "more" and began using the physical world.
I got big into psychology, how the mind and body works, how animals minds work, I learned about religion, and I started trying to figure out how to get myself part of the system....I AM SO HAPPY MY S/O SAVED ME FROM THIS.
When he showed me JoS, I read everything I could find up until Library of Thoth, and read many, many articles in there as well.
I immediately loved the site, but doubted everything about it. I'd go over my doubts, but you already explained them. It all sounded like every other religion I looked into, and I assumed the experiences would be the same. I did not dedicate for some time, I held out and doubted a lot of it. I kept asking for something or some way to know this was the right path, and I got nothing. I got nothing for what felt like months. So, I dedicated at this point. I dedicated in hopes of some amazing thing happening that would blow my mind open, didn't happen.  The meditations seemed to help regardless, and I was getting what I wanted in my work place so it was hard to say it didn't work at all. For six months I was a Zevism without contact. I figured this may have been my own fault; I was very demanding, I thought my mentality would be rewarded

" "Satan hates petty reasons from people whom don't have a truly serious mindset about Spiritual Satanism."
If he does exist, then he should UNDERSTAND WHY I'm skeptical! He should realize why this is hard for me to accept.  "

I use to think the same thing!!!! I thought I'd be understood and that Satan would be like "Wow you saw through everything gooooood jooobbbb!" This is not the case.

Well long story short, my s/o and I stopped being satanist for about three months due to doubts, tried following other paths, and it brought us back to Zevism even harder. We re-dedicated together, but I still didn't get any response or feelings. For me it turned out being Marijuana. I had no idea weed was so bad for you. After I figured out I needed to stop smoking, Satan came to me for the first time a few nights ago, and this restored every bit of hope that I needed.

I don't think I was truly serious beforehand. If you want to have experiences with Satan or any what so ever I'd start working towards it immediately. Start with dedicating and meditating, and just keep with it. Even if you're doubtful keep with it, try with every part of your being. Everyone's experience is going to be different, maybe there's a reason Satan hasn't contacted you, and maybe that reason is you expect it from him. From what my S/o has told me, Satan has better things to do than just sit around trying to convince fence sitters to jump in.

 

[Brooke Molina]

I have to go to the shit hole tht call church and he was saying how god was omnipresent. Ok so if god creating everything including physics how can he break the laws of physics?? Like I'm excuse me open your eyes
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"As
long as you are a slave to Jesus, it doesn't care what
your wishes and desires are or how many of them you ask for.
Satan is different in that He will give you ONLY what you
need, and maybe 'some' things you want, but it is
all guided towards you attaining Godhood not something that
is useless to you like say Jesus granting you a 72 inch flat
screen TV, that is useless."
My
"prayers", desires, wishes, etc. were never
granted, not one as a slave to christ. I never asked for
useless shit. I would never ask for a flat screen because,
believe it or not, I don't watch TV. Then later I
realized why, he doesn't exist.

On Apr
19, 2017 3:21 PM, "descipleofthegods13@...
[JoyofSatan666]"
wrote:


























 













Actually Jehovah is more like a genie whom grants
wishes, and makes billions of promises. If you further read
the website you will come to understand how this
"priest" deceived you with it's lying
bullshit.

You see, the
character known as Jesus was meant to replace Satan, and
because of how things have been set into motion, people
subconsciously believe that Jesus is Satan. It plays into
people's memories of Satan and brain washes them
entirely.

Jesus makes
billions of promises like a genie in the bible, and the
harder you serve the lying jerk the more "wishes"
you will be granted.

Satan
doesn't teach dependence and being humble, and weak like
that. He teaches up how to make our own desires come true.
Satan also sees into people's Soul's and knows one
true intent unlike the fictitious nazarene whom claims to be
able to do that yet can't even figure out the simplest
of things about the person.

As long as you are a slave to Jesus, it
doesn't care what your wishes and desires are or how
many of them you ask for. Satan is different in that He will
give you ONLY what you need, and maybe 'some' things
you want, but it is all guided towards you attaining Godhood
not something that is useless to you like say Jesus granting
you a 72 inch flat screen TV, that is useless.

If you choose this path you
will see for yourself.













































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[descipleofthegods13]

This is definitely the enemy using your parents to harass you. I know this type of thing well as I have to deal with it on a daily basis.

The is the enemy trolling you. Void meditation will help you ignore it.

 

[Brooke Molina]

i used to dwell on that a lot too. could never truly accept it. But Satan and the Gods truly do take care of us. They take care of us unlike the g-d of fucking israel who wants to enslave us



  This is definitely the enemy using your parents to harass you. I know this type of thing well as I have to deal with it on a daily basis.

The is the enemy trolling you. Void meditation will help you ignore it.