Why Are Posts Being Rejected?

Yes. This same thing is always said by every troll on every fake account. "I have actually been here for 10 years, don't ask why my account is only 2 months old. Trust me bro."

Maybe you are the first person to be telling the truth when saying this.

More deflection. Have the day you deserve.

Let's hypothetically entertain the idea that she hasn't been asked about the name change at all.

First, the first and most important question to ask yourself is: "If I ascribe divinity to a person (any of the heroes of the past), and hold them in high regard, would they be fond of the changes happening here in the Temple?"

Now, it's obvious what is been tried to achieve; that is actually registering as a religion instead of dwelling in the corners of the internet forever.

So, regarding HPS Phytia, do you think she isn't fond of this huge accomplishment?

If you think that HPS Phytia, a Priestess of the Gods, isn't fond of these updates which are aimed at allowing our religion to flourish like never before, and multiplying, en masse, the number of worshippers of the very Gods she serves, then for what reason do you ascribe her any divinity?

If you think she approves of the recent updates, then why would she disapprove this name change? Why would she prefer her worldly name (just one name out of many past-lifes, at that)?

In under three months, we have established a superior theology thanks to our HP, regarding what we deem unsuitable for the Temple and how we define our enemies. All content and forums have been cleaned and updated so that none of our members will suffer any legal consequences. It's appalling to me how quickly all of this happened.

I'm not criticizing when I say this here, just making an observation: things are truly being rushed, and most members aren't getting prior notice. This is evident in the fact that even some established members had their profile pictures removed without being informed, for an example. I also felt like things were being done without giving any information to Temple's very own members, which, when I observed, felt like a little bit alienating, and I had this feeling that most members feel the same way, one way or another.

However, this was all up until the point at which it was stated that we are registering as a religion, which is HUGE. Achieving this in three months is no small feat and it seems to me that maybe this approach is the best.

Some members might think that it could be done more openly but I trust the judgement of High Priest Zevios Metathronos. I fully believe him and I know that under his guidance, we will successfully complete the construction of our Temple in the real life.

I certainly don't think she'd be happy to know she's being considered a boomer, "old" or whatever else has been said.

If she is insulted by a Clergy member or a Guardian, you should post proof. If it's coming from a random member, then they are not speaking on behalf of the Temple. Just block them and move on.

Much less her posts being deleted permanently.

You're wrong.

You're also very silly in assuming I even care to compete with you on advancement or anything. I don't. Yeah everyone's account is definitely a perfect reflection of when they joined the path. You're not making this place look good if this is the kind of response for people disagreeing or something.

If you show up and insult everyone, it is only natural for the community to get frustrated and defensive in turn.

I feel we should remain very ethical and professional in how this frustration and disagreement is handled. I will try to put this to you clearly so you understand.

1. Nothing High Priest Zevios Metathronos is currently doing with improvements, and or changes in the Temple of Zeus are going against the will of High Priestess Pythia. If you have such an issue and feel it is acceptable to treat the Clergy and our members this way then by all means, meditate and ask High Priestess Pythia yourself.

2. You have been just out of line in expressing your disagreements, and it goes into the category of insults and not acceptable behavior, hence a post not being approved.

3. Continuing to agitate and just keep going with this is pointless for all involved and not just a waste of time at this point, it is now a waste of your time.

Please reflect on how to just approach this all correctly. Reasonable disagreements and discussions are fine. Insults and acting in this way is not.

How can one answer a hypothetical thing that hasn't been claimed to be fact? The ones claiming she approve of the name change or her posts being nuked are just... Random people making assumptions. Sounds very credible.

She was the one who worked with High Priest Zevios Metathronos as partners for many years, and who placed him as her replacement. And placed full and absolute trust and control into him. She gave him the absolute highest approval that there could possibly be, by literally handing him ownership and control over everything.

Everything that is being expanded now with the improvements have been wanted since the beginning, but large things come in stages. From the early stages of just trying to crawl out of the dark ages, to now moving into the creation of the next Golden Age.

You are the one who is so angry over nothing and who is making all of these claims that nothing was approved. You are the one who keeps making this claim. You are sure that nothing was approved? So you must know every word that has ever been spoken to each other, to know what was not said. The same point that you still will not ever address. At this point you are either literally mentally retarded to not understand this point, or are just a troll.

You also obviously do not know what this title Pythia even means. Pythia is the Oracle, the High Priestess, the woman who can communicate with the Gods to be able to speak the Will of the Gods to the rest of the people who can not hear them. There have been many women, or at least many incarnations of possibly a smaller number of souls continuing to reincarnate, who fulfilled this title of Pythia. Over more than a century. High Priestess was Pythia in previous lifetimes. Not only is the description of this title fitting already simply by what it describes, but she personally was there and had this title then. This is her in previous lifetimes. And she has personally said this before.

If you did her Ritual, if you were open to her and to the Gods, you would be able to feel that all of this is correct. As every one of us all clearly feel, clearly sense, and clearly understand. As it is only yourself as the ignorant child who has such lack of intuition and lack of understanding to think that there is a problem where there is none, and to understand none of these things.

If you show up and insult everyone, it is only natural for the community to get frustrated and defensive in turn.

I feel we should remain very ethical and professional in how this frustration and disagreement is handled. I will try to put this to you clearly so you understand.

1. Nothing High Priest Zevios Metathronos is currently doing with improvements, and or changes in the Temple of Zeus are going against the will of High Priestess Pythia. If you have such an issue and feel it is acceptable to treat the Clergy and our members this way then by all means, meditate and ask High Priestess Pythia yourself.

Show more...Show less...Show more...

I only talked to one person and people like YOU showed up out of nowhere to gang up. It is the other side going to the level of insults, calling me stupid and a clown. I simply retaliate in kind. Stop acting impartial when you're not. Step off that pedestal, you don't deserve to be on it.

She was the one who worked with High Priest Zevios Metathronos as partners for many years, and who placed him as her replacement. And placed full and absolute trust and control into him. She gave him the absolute highest approval that there could possibly be, by literally handing him ownership and control over everything.

Everything that is being expanded now with the improvements have been wanted since the beginning, but large things come in stages. From the early stages of just trying to crawl out of the dark ages, to now moving into the creation of the next Golden Age.

You are the one who is so angry over nothing and who is making all of these claims that nothing was approved. You are the one who keeps making this claim. You are sure that nothing was approved? So you must know every word that has ever been spoken to each other, to know what was not said. The same point that you still will not ever address. At this point you are either literally mentally retarded to not understand this point, or are just a troll.

Show more...Show less...Show more...

I never said nothing was approved. You keep doing this weird thing where you invent accusations and use them to attack me. I simply said the name change and many of her posts being nuked and I explained how many people religiously read them to learn all the knowledge she ever shared. I haven't talked about any other update and I have actually fully supported everything else in the past.

You latch onto me but can't even land any credible verbal tackle. Just endless manufactured accusations. Very bizarre.

If you show up and insult everyone, it is only natural for the community to get frustrated and defensive in turn.

I feel we should remain very ethical and professional in how this frustration and disagreement is handled. I will try to put this to you clearly so you understand.

1. Nothing High Priest Zevios Metathronos is currently doing with improvements, and or changes in the Temple of Zeus are going against the will of High Priestess Pythia. If you have such an issue and feel it is acceptable to treat the Clergy and our members this way then by all means, meditate and ask High Priestess Pythia yourself.

Show more...Show less...Show more...

If you were seeking to deescalate you'd tell Ol to not call me a clown but obviously you're not impartial.

Does this post of HP ZM have any application here?

Or may be this?

I realize you're trying to be understanding and generous with your patience. As commendable as it is, when will one realise this is all futile...

https://ancient-forums.com/threads/patience-has-its-limits-also.307384/ancient-forums.com

Does this post of HP ZM have any application here?

https://templeofzeus.org/Groups.phptempleofzeus.org

Show more...Show less...Show more...

I don't enjoy interacting with you. Yet you somehow always find a way to start drama with me.

I think everyone who has been mentored/ trained by a women will see how irrelevant all this is, women do not give same meaning to things men give to,

Lets say there is a war, a women general will be more into protecting and winning and thats it, a man general will be more about flags, legacy and such,

In a family, a father wants a son because he wants his son to carry his genes, sees him as an extension of himself and wants him to do something big, a mother wants a child because she is into the experience of being a mother and having a child.

The perspectives are very different and i speculate the members who stress about this name change are more man than women,

I have been mentored/teached before by women they have no ego, they wished and loved me to surpass them, they gave me all they can give, and they even took losses and wasted time so i can benefit. And they appreciate the experience and the relation more than me praising them or a title they have or whatever, they usually talked to me as on their level and teaching me from there, rather than looking down on me.

On top of that, they make me get away with dumb things that they do not tolerate normally, and on top of that at every good thing i do they credit me fully, they never claim to be the one who helped but rather the one who made one with potential realise and embody his potential.

However man are opposite, they like to keep the edge they like to always be the one who is more advanced than you and that you will never reach, and to get away with this you need ´to not outshine the master’, and they are more into names titles etc, besides when they get older and wiser something clicks in them and they too start wanting the ones they mentor to surpass them especially ‘the chosen ones’, and they see their success as their own. And they stop caring about a name or such things that much. But that comes later, in the first part of their life, you better not try thinking you can surpass or whatever this registers as an insult lol as for woman they in fact love that energy.

That being said i believe the High Priestess cares about advancement of what she created and her successor more than anything else.

I only talked to one person and people like YOU showed up out of nowhere to gang up. It is the other side going to the level of insults, calling me stupid and a clown. I simply retaliate in kind. Stop acting impartial when you're not. Step off that pedestal, you don't deserve to be on it.

Anyone who knows me here or in general, knows I have no pedestal. I require none, nor do I expect any at all.

I understand you are frustrated with how others have conversed with you over this. The feeling with others seems to be mutual.
The clear line is insults towards the Clergy will not be tolerated.

Please de-escalate and you can go from there with this.

If you were seeking to deescalate you'd tell Ol to not call me a clown but obviously you're not impartial.

I am sure that if you try to breathe, chill for a bit and this disagreement ends, and you re-approach the community in the proper context it will work out fine.

I am just trying to communicate with you and reach an understanding. You should simply apologize and we go from there, not just hurl insult after insult with insinuation for no good reason, as it doesn't benefit us, and it doesn't benefit you at all either.

Please just calm down and not do this.

I normally steer clear of conflicts at my age, because I've learnt most are pointless, but this has been going on for 3 days now. I have recently seen members here who showed real promise spiritually, only to be shamed out of the forum and ToZ because of their stubborn pride and misguided egos.
The point is not always to be seen as right, but to understand that wisdom is attained by listening and trying to understand the truth of the matter with an objective and unprejudiced attitude.
This also tarnishes the appearance and reputation of the forum in the eyes of new initiatied people coming here.

I normally steer clear of conflicts at my age, because I've learnt most are pointless, but this has been going on for 3 days now. I have recently seen members here who showed real promise spiritually, only to be shamed out of the forum and ToZ because of their stubborn pride and misguided egos.
The point is not always to be seen as right, but to understand that wisdom is attained by listening and trying to understand the truth of the matter with an objective and unprejudiced attitude.
This also tarnishes the appearance and reputation of the forum in the eyes of new initiatied people coming here.

I personally don't understand why many people are set on just causing conflicts or disagreeing, pointless arguments that are a net loss in general.
We are here to become divine, to haul ourselves all the way up as far as we are able to go. Nothing else matters except our individual and collective advancement in the Temple of Zeus.

Ego, everything else has to be set aside.
We have to come here and be deeply receptive, and deeply consistent in our practice.

Personal thoughts, opinions. This is all fleeting.

Let us understand and respect the hierarchy of those above us, so we can one day be elevated like them.
All that matters is cultivating the Theophoric aspects of ourselves, until the divine sparks within every single fiber of our being burst aflame in every single cell.

I never said nothing was approved.

Yes, you said you don't think she would approve of being called X and Y (no proof), and you said you DON'T THINK she approved of the name change and of the post deletions. (whose material will be reinstated after cleanup anyway, as was stated)

Nice plausible deniability you have there.

You ignored my reply too. You are implying that poor Goddess Pythia didn't know what big meanie HPZM ("still divine", but "did things that Lady Pythia wouldn't approve of" somehow) would do with her community, and that, despite ascending, she somehow lost grasp of the community and what she wanted for it. Are you not?
If you do not realize that you imply this, please do look back at the logical conclusion of your "worries", and reword your statements as what they are.

"I wanted to read her old posts and it's an inconvenience that I can't, and the name change is odd and I haven't received an answer from her on it after Her Ritual." This is a more peaceful and respectful way of putting it.

"I don't think she would approve guys" is:
- just a guess
- an opinion on what "she would approve" FAR less educated than HP, who was trained by her and can more easily contact her even now
- disrespectful in what it implies (whether you said it as a veiled accusation or just didn't think it over too long)

I am sure that if you try to breathe, chill for a bit and this disagreement ends, and you re-approach the community in the proper context it will work out fine.

I am just trying to communicate with you and reach an understanding. You should simply apologize and we go from there, not just hurl insult after insult with insinuation for no good reason, as it doesn't benefit us, and it doesn't benefit you at all either.

Please just calm down and not do this.

I will gladly do when the other side apologizes but the sun will rise from the west before that happens. Another of my replies to Emergent was disapproved where I went into detail about the shade I have seen thrown at HPS Pythia. I have seen more than enough and I am now firm in my earlier conclusions.

I don't need to "calm down", and I'm done with this thread already.

Majority of the points being made by @DiscipleofEshmun do not stand ground in spiritual practices given that there is an acknowledgement of forces/entities over us who help guide us towards Godhood.

Start by looking at what the Temple originally offered : Spiritual Evolution
Problem Statement : Many of the recent decisions being made such as renaming Lady Maxine to Lady Pythia is not in sync with the Gods or spiritual development and in a way try and prove that the present administration of the Temple is working against the will of the Gods.

When one focuses on basic reasoning to understand what is happening things can get clearer. Lady Pythia had been with us over 2 decades where she provided people (anyone with an internet connection) a chance to spiritually evolve and connect with the Gods. Since she left the Forums voluntarily around 2020 a lot of work fell to the shoulders of HP ZM.
How do you decide if the actions of HP ZM are in line with what Lady Pythia wanted? Since he has taken total ownership of the work related to the Temple (since 2020, he has been working long before that with Lady Pythia but for the sake of reasoning I am not including it here) newer spiritual tools, meditations and rituals have been provided. Newer information which isn't corrupted by the enemy has been provided. All this has made advancement far easier for most newbies and made contact with the Gods much more accessible. Judging by these actions his decisions are purely in line with the initial objectives of setting up this website.

As others have mentioned the term Pythia is used to refer to the High Priestess of Apollo. Which is what she has done throughout her life as is evident by her work which have predicted the present world 10-15 years back, along with providing others a path to walk on spiritually. The renaming is not something that came out of the blue and her renaming to represent her status as Pythia is well understood by most people who have been here long enough (either by communicating with her one on one or by indications of her grand status before the Gods by HP ZM in his previous posts going all the way back to 2019/20 or even before).

Does this re-naming in any shape or form cause problems in the spiritual development of initiates? No. The core of her teachings have always been spiritual evolution of those of seek it. When the High Priest or Clergy provide meditations or spiritual tools through which you can better your life they honor Lady Pythia too since it is through Her all this has been made possible. The filth of Yehuboric teachings that plague the world in these present developments (which is a result of decades of previous work by the Temple) have been clearly cutoff from the path of Zevism which is causing an emotional reaction in most people who have suffered under Yehuboric programs and came here as a reactionary move without understanding what this path truly offers. For most priests in the East (many of whom might have their own blind spots in understanding) referring to the Priestly class under a Satanic world view would be unjustified and honestly disrespectful if the same Pagan Gods are being worshipped. In that sense the renaming to Lady Pythia is nothing but showing respect to the individual who has served at great capacity to enable spiritual growth for anyone willing and with an internet connection.

Instead of following "lores" on this path what remains a core duty of every initiate is to Meditate ,Evolve and Serve the Gods and the Temple at the capacity at which you can. If you don't do this you aren't really adhering to this path and are being truly disrespectful to the Gods, yourself and the Clergy (who enable you a path to walk on).

I don't enjoy interacting with you. Yet you somehow always find a way to start drama with me.

In due time most of these things will resolve,

Even the motives and good interests of these things,
Take a moment in the silence and you will find the gods already answered you,
This thread will keep going on and on since at a point it all turn into a battle of egos for both sides and you know how fruitless and frustrating these becomes,You understand things in your one way and you argue with others who have their own understandings of it,

I have faith you will understand old friend,
Take a breather,2 months, forget,

Yes, you said you don't think she would approve of being called X and Y (no proof), and you said you DON'T THINK she approved of the name change and of the post deletions. (whose material will be reinstated after cleanup anyway, as was stated)

Nice plausible deniability you have there.

You ignored my reply too. You are implying that poor Goddess Pythia didn't know what big meanie HPZM ("still divine", but "did things that Lady Pythia wouldn't approve of" somehow) would do with her community, and that, despite ascending, she somehow lost grasp of the community and what she wanted for it. Are you not?
If you do not realize that you imply this, please do look back at the logical conclusion of your "worries", and reword your statements as what they are.

Show more...Show less...Show more...

How can I offer proof when posts where she was disrespected are now deleted? Do you think I do drugs to falsely accuse people of saying things they didn't? I know exactly what I'm talking about and you acting blind or clueless to score points or whatever you're doing doesn't change the facts. I am not falsely accusing anyone. You can act righteous in another thread as you really don't have anything substantial to say to me.