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Re: Who created Satan?
Sun, Sep 16, 2012 11:00:22 PM
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Maybe you've got the wrong image of what a god is in your head, they are gods, each and everything in the universe was created through the elements.
Perhaps you are correct in that I am brainwashed into lumping in the word 'god' with 'creator'. I didn't mean to say it like that. However I am also being misunderstood as saying that because Satan and the Demons did not create the universe that they are not gods. That is not what I am trying to imply at all. I am simply trying to establish what Spiritual Satanists definition of a god is. If they do not believe that universe was created by a single being ( neither do I) then good for them. However seeing that Enki scientifically altered his genes to stop the aging process one would assume that they had an interest as to how the universe came into being. The leading theory among secular scientist is the big bang theory. It would be interesting to know if the gods had any knowledge that either supports or negates this theory. Now for simply asking questions I am getting flamed for being a "troll" and "having no real interest in Satanism" which is untrue. If I had no interest you think I would be wasting my time typing out all these responses and questions? I appreciate your patience and thank you for taking the time to answer blueflameserpent. Those that teach will reach godhead much faster than those that simply hoard the knowledge to themselves.
--- In , "blueflameserpent" <blueflameserpent@... wrote:
Maybe you've got the wrong image of what a god is in your head, they are gods, each and everything in the universe was created through the elements.
It has been mentioned that the Akasha or principle of Ether is the cause of the formation of the elements, according to the oriental writtings the first element to come out of the Akasha is the Fire element, the fundemental attributes of the fiery principle are heat and expantion, that was stolen by the bible as *let their be light*.
And their so called 'god' was simply the element Akasha, they called it the creater of all, once again stolen.
Every element has two polarities, namely the active and the passive or plus and minus, the plus is constructive, creative and proactive and the minus is decomposing and destructive.
Then came the Water element, just like the fire it came from the Akasha, in comparrison to fire it has entirely opposite attributes (coldness and contraction), the active pole is constructive, life giving, nourishing preserving, the negative pole has decomposing, fermenting, divisive and dispersing attributes.
The Fire principle can not exist within itself without an antipole, the water principle.
Dont forget we are not dealing with the common fire, water, air aspects of the physical or material plane but instead with the universal attributes of the elements.
Another elelment that originated from the Akasha is the element of Air, it has its place as a mediator between the fiery and water principles, air principles the nuetrel equilibrium as a medium between the active and passive activities of water and fire.
In its position as a mediator, the Airy principle has acquired from Fire the attribute of warmth and from water moisture, life would not be possible without this. Same within the body, Air as seen by the lungs keeps the fire element lit by breathing therefore LIFE IS IN THE BREATH!
This means that out of the reciprocal action of the three aforementioned elements the Earth element came into being as the last element, which through its specific attribute of solidification which has given these three aforementioned elements a concrete form. At the same time the activities of these three elements have been limited and as a result, space, measure, weight and time have come into being. Since all elements are active in the fourth, the planet element, all created life can be explained, that's where once again the enemy religiong used *let it be done* bullshit in the bible.
With different shapes and sizes of the planets you will get different kinds of looking alien races, all wich was originally created from the elements (just a brief example above), as you can see how the elements manifest itself within the body.
Now what is a god? you can sit here and define what itr means for years but the fact is anyone can become godhead, the gods had to break the cycle of reincarnation and with many years of learning spiritual knowledge along side technology and science can specifically alter their DNA not to age.
Think of technology 100 years ago in your country, no such thing as an iphone, imagine the next 2,000 years? zthats why it can be explained with images of gods with animal like features, weather that was brought on by spiritualty or dna altering, it is all possible.
If Satan didn't create humanity we woulnd't even be having this convo, its time to stop thinking that a god just burst into being and had all knowledge and power and created everything bullshit, its time to look at the facts and realise that the gods worked hard for their status and that is why it possible for us to do the same, but because of the enemey as previously explained in my last post denied us this, we do not have that freedom of spiritual knowledge.
Do a lot of research and you will get your answers, I was a catholic before I could see the truth, when I came into being a Satanists everything made sense, I wasn't going to believe a fairy tale of bullshit I wanted the truth and the knowledge of how things were, and wi Satan bringer of knowledge and truth I have this opportunity.
--- In , "keredd1010" derek.davila10@ wrote:
So in fact the gods are not gods in the sense of the word of being almighty gods as what is the common belief as being creators of the universe. They are simply beings that are more evolved than ourselves are through gained knowledge they have achieved immortality. However they really have no answer to how this universe came into being or whether or not they were "created" themselves.
--- In , "the_fire_starter666" <the_fire_starter666@ wrote:
"If Satan is roughly 450,000 years old and from a distant planet then who created him and the other Demons?"
If you change your question a bit and instead of created you made it to "evolved" it answers itself. Of course it's been said Satan has a father and he was born like we were do, and his race of Nordics evolved from lesser species, animals, fish, bacteria e.t.c. We don't believe in a xian-style creationism.
"I guess my main question would be how did the universe come into existence?"
Nobody really knows, probably the universe created itself as it's made up of that universal energy which is mentioned in Sanskrit texts It's certainly stupid to assume that a anthropomorphic spook created it because we don't know how exactly this happened. This is called an "argument from ignorance" and is a very stupid logical fallacy. You have to answer the question "who created that spook" if you make a spook up to try to explain that.
--- In , "keredd1010" <derek.davila10@ wrote:
If Satan is roughly 450,000 years old and from a distant planet then who created him and the other Demons? Who created the Nordic beings? I guess my main question would be how did the universe come into existence?
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