Well,why dont u people read this...I bet ull be pissed off....

Aug 26, 2009#1

U NO WOT? Better improve your grammar - 1st of all.

2nd of all - what dreams? Oh, right - typically RHP approach - let OTHERS do everything for you. Are your dreams YOURS or of another person? If yours - interpret them in YOUR own way.

The only truth is Satan. If you do not attend xian churches it is ok up to the point that you do not contribute to this machine of destruction.

Say what you want about Gods/Demons - but you are spiritually undeveloped. Telling us that Gods don't exist is to most of us like a blind man telling us (with good sight) that there is no Sun. But this is your right not to see (or not wanting to see?) If you had your 3rd eye opened than perhaps you could see other extra-terrestrials, but I'm afraid that even then you wouldn't believe that they are real, even when being touched by them or whatever.

Magic indeed doesn't exist, but there is energy manipulation. Rites only facilitate the goal achievement.

If you think that we will try to prove to you that Satan and His Gods do exist - you're wrong. It is your path, and you must walk it alone. We walk with our Gods - many of us are also non-believers - WE KNOW THEY EXIST. xians believe in nothing called YHWH, and therefore they will in long term achieve nothing.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!

U NO WOT? Better improve your grammar - 1st of all.

2nd of all - what dreams? Oh, right - typically RHP approach - let OTHERS do everything for you. Are your dreams YOURS or of another person? If yours - interpret them in YOUR own way.

The only truth is Satan. If you do not attend xian churches it is ok up to the point that you do not contribute to this machine of destruction.

Say what you want about Gods/Demons - but you are spiritually undeveloped. Telling us that Gods don't exist is to most of us like a blind man telling us (with good sight) that there is no Sun. But this is your right not to see (or not wanting to see?) If you had your 3rd eye opened than perhaps you could see other extra-terrestrials, but I'm afraid that even then you wouldn't believe that they are real, even when being touched by them or whatever.

Magic indeed doesn't exist, but there is energy manipulation. Rites only facilitate the goal achievement.

If you think that we will try to prove to you that Satan and His Gods do exist - you're wrong. It is your path, and you must walk it alone. We walk with our Gods - many of us are also non-believers - WE KNOW THEY EXIST. xians believe in nothing called YHWH, and therefore they will in long term achieve nothing.

HAIL LUCIFER AND THE GODS OF THE OLD!!

Aug 26, 2009#2

Aug 26, 2009#3

Aug 26, 2009#4

First of all, if you want to make an intelligent argument against a couple thousand people at least learn to SPELL correctly. Angels and demons are living breathing being just like us, if you want proof research the sumerians. I've seen the effects of the magick when used correctly, it doesn't matter whether or not the person believes in it or not. Lastly we get stupid fucking people here like you all the time that want to make noise and get attention. Personally I don't care what you believe in, so if you don't believe what we do why are you even here in the first place? To get attention(?)!

First of all, if you want to make an intelligent argument against a couple thousand people at least learn to SPELL correctly. Angels and demons are living breathing being just like us, if you want proof research the sumerians. I've seen the effects of the magick when used correctly, it doesn't matter whether or not the person believes in it or not. Lastly we get stupid fucking people here like you all the time that want to make noise and get attention. Personally I don't care what you believe in, so if you don't believe what we do why are you even here in the first place? To get attention(?)!

Aug 26, 2009#5

Come back when you're sober.

I can't take anything you say seriously with that fucked up grammar of yours. You sound like you have a double digit IQ.

-Hail Satan!

Come back when you're sober.

I can't take anything you say seriously with that fucked up grammar of yours. You sound like you have a double digit IQ.

-Hail Satan!

Aug 26, 2009#6

--- In , "icca22os" <icca22os@... wrote:

Now if only you would believe in spell check and grammar...

B

--- In , "icca22os" <icca22os@... wrote:

Now if only you would believe in spell check and grammar...

B

Aug 26, 2009#7

Yes. Firstly, as people have already said, your grammar is terrible.
It would have English teachers across the globe weeping! Secondly,
your mind is very closed. You do not believe in anything that does not
fit into your little box of a world. So, until your mind can handle it
(not that it ever will at this rate), go away.

Yes. Firstly, as people have already said, your grammar is terrible.
It would have English teachers across the globe weeping! Secondly,
your mind is very closed. You do not believe in anything that does not
fit into your little box of a world. So, until your mind can handle it
(not that it ever will at this rate), go away.

Aug 27, 2009#8

Aug 27, 2009#9

LMFAO.....

Icca....its ok....you are entitled to your opinions.

You have not met a daemon....or angel....whatever....who cares?

You have no proof....fine....not surprising you are very young still.

There are MANY higher beings..your right about that.
What you choose is your thing...I guess....and you can be food for the greys, or the Corrupted Beings,...and be SOUL HARVESTED over and over.....

I could care less.

However...

Magick, is real.

IT CAN HURT.

I've worked it...I've succeeded in harming when I wished.
I've succeeded in helping and protecting when I wish.

I've been WORKED ON...and it worked.

It makes no difference to us if you believe or not.

YOU believing has no bearing on truth...or magickal workings...or meditation practice.

Hang around if you like....

I think you are very amusing. :)

HAIL THE Gods of Elysium

LMFAO.....

Icca....its ok....you are entitled to your opinions.

You have not met a daemon....or angel....whatever....who cares?

You have no proof....fine....not surprising you are very young still.

There are MANY higher beings..your right about that.
What you choose is your thing...I guess....and you can be food for the greys, or the Corrupted Beings,...and be SOUL HARVESTED over and over.....

I could care less.

However...

Magick, is real.

IT CAN HURT.

I've worked it...I've succeeded in harming when I wished.
I've succeeded in helping and protecting when I wish.

I've been WORKED ON...and it worked.

It makes no difference to us if you believe or not.

YOU believing has no bearing on truth...or magickal workings...or meditation practice.

Hang around if you like....

I think you are very amusing. :)

HAIL THE Gods of Elysium

Aug 27, 2009#10

I don't know what's worse...the fact you came to an occult group to say it's all bullshit or your grammer.

If you are going to argue your case, at least do so intelligently.

If you would open yourself up then you would experience things that defy any rational definition. There is a whole word that is hidden, all you have to do is open your eyes.

HS/HL

I don't know what's worse...the fact you came to an occult group to say it's all bullshit or your grammer.

If you are going to argue your case, at least do so intelligently.

If you would open yourself up then you would experience things that defy any rational definition. There is a whole word that is hidden, all you have to do is open your eyes.

HS/HL

Aug 27, 2009#11

Ok, agnostic athiest, read up on what agnostic means, you cannot be both at the same time. No anger here, just amusement. Really education does wonders for grammar, out of respect, if you have any, go find an athiest group to share your opinions with.

"Responsibility to the responsible"

And a big howzit to everyone around the globe from Tats in South Africa

Hail Satan

Ok, agnostic athiest, read up on what agnostic means, you cannot be both at the same time. No anger here, just amusement. Really education does wonders for grammar, out of respect, if you have any, go find an athiest group to share your opinions with.

"Responsibility to the responsible"

And a big howzit to everyone around the globe from Tats in South Africa

Hail Satan

Aug 27, 2009#12

Please read this whole reply icca, because I doubt that you realize how much of an idiot you sound like.

1 & 2)There are so such things as both Demons and angels. Just because you haven't experienced it doesn't automatically make it not exist. I mean, I've never seen China. So does that mean it's made up just because I've never seen it first hand? The lack of evidence does not disprove something's existence.
However, that argument is like explaining to someone who was born blind what a rainbow looks like. It's hard to put into words how I know they exist; because it's all stuff I honestly couldn't concretely prove to you. Emotions and sensations I've felt, things I've seen or heard, things that happen to me, to those around me... but could I call one up and have him go to your living room to hang out with you? No, not really.
What's happening with you is, you have this iron wall (which, incidentally, is most likely one of many) in your mind, and it's engraved with something along the lines of "DEMON = BAD". If you don't accept it as a possibility at all no matter what anyone says, you just laugh it off and dismiss it as rubbish, HOW the FUCK are you expecting to experience it? One day you're just gonna wake up with Marduk standing by your bedside? It doesn't work that way. You're the one talking about auto-suggestion; think about the auto suggestion you've been doing to YOURSELF, jackass.

3)What? I can't even understand this. "I wont' tell there isn't smthng?" How can you say you're an atheist then? So what, you're saying that you believe in "higher beings", but when it's shown to you that they exist, you reject them out of fear, ignorance, and/or laziness? Answer honestly; have you really even bothered to put any work towards developing yourself at all? Never mind, I'll answer for you. I *KNOW* you haven't. So how can you expect to be able to detect these "higher beings" with no power of your own to draw on? You've been seeing through a thick fog your whole life. I guarantee that you will not see, or feel, or notice any kind of energy, let alone actual beings like Demons and angels, until that fog can be lifted.

4)This one depends on what you define as magic. As far as we're concerned, energy gathering, manipulation and the like, as well as telepathy and such things most people dismiss as fairy tales, is SCIENCE, not magic.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
-Arthur C. Clark

If you were to go to an undeveloped country where people still live in tribes in jungles and whatnot, and don't know of technology, and show them something as simple as a torch lighter, they would be in awe of your "magic" power. They don't understand the concept of a small, easily portable flame generator, so as far as they know, you're some kind of fire genie. All of our Satanic magic practices can be looked at the same way. Because you don't understand how the process works, you mysticize it and that leads to fear and misunderstanding. When studied and understood, however, that fear goes away and you begin to realize what a fool you've always been.

By the way, it is quite easy to harm people who have no belief in or fear of the occult. In fact, it's the easiest way to get away with it, because the idiot who you're harming will never connect his/her misfortune with you. He/she assumes it to just be coincidence and shrugs it off, letting you do whatever you want with no consequences.

Oh yeah and last but not least, go learn spelling and grammar, STUPID. Especially if you plan on holding arguments with Satanists ever again.
Good day to you, sir.

HAIL SATAN AND THE GODS OF OLD!!!!

Please read this whole reply icca, because I doubt that you realize how much of an idiot you sound like.

1 & 2)There are so such things as both Demons and angels. Just because you haven't experienced it doesn't automatically make it not exist. I mean, I've never seen China. So does that mean it's made up just because I've never seen it first hand? The lack of evidence does not disprove something's existence.
However, that argument is like explaining to someone who was born blind what a rainbow looks like. It's hard to put into words how I know they exist; because it's all stuff I honestly couldn't concretely prove to you. Emotions and sensations I've felt, things I've seen or heard, things that happen to me, to those around me... but could I call one up and have him go to your living room to hang out with you? No, not really.
What's happening with you is, you have this iron wall (which, incidentally, is most likely one of many) in your mind, and it's engraved with something along the lines of "DEMON = BAD". If you don't accept it as a possibility at all no matter what anyone says, you just laugh it off and dismiss it as rubbish, HOW the FUCK are you expecting to experience it? One day you're just gonna wake up with Marduk standing by your bedside? It doesn't work that way. You're the one talking about auto-suggestion; think about the auto suggestion you've been doing to YOURSELF, jackass.

3)What? I can't even understand this. "I wont' tell there isn't smthng?" How can you say you're an atheist then? So what, you're saying that you believe in "higher beings", but when it's shown to you that they exist, you reject them out of fear, ignorance, and/or laziness? Answer honestly; have you really even bothered to put any work towards developing yourself at all? Never mind, I'll answer for you. I *KNOW* you haven't. So how can you expect to be able to detect these "higher beings" with no power of your own to draw on? You've been seeing through a thick fog your whole life. I guarantee that you will not see, or feel, or notice any kind of energy, let alone actual beings like Demons and angels, until that fog can be lifted.

4)This one depends on what you define as magic. As far as we're concerned, energy gathering, manipulation and the like, as well as telepathy and such things most people dismiss as fairy tales, is SCIENCE, not magic.

"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
-Arthur C. Clark

If you were to go to an undeveloped country where people still live in tribes in jungles and whatnot, and don't know of technology, and show them something as simple as a torch lighter, they would be in awe of your "magic" power. They don't understand the concept of a small, easily portable flame generator, so as far as they know, you're some kind of fire genie. All of our Satanic magic practices can be looked at the same way. Because you don't understand how the process works, you mysticize it and that leads to fear and misunderstanding. When studied and understood, however, that fear goes away and you begin to realize what a fool you've always been.

By the way, it is quite easy to harm people who have no belief in or fear of the occult. In fact, it's the easiest way to get away with it, because the idiot who you're harming will never connect his/her misfortune with you. He/she assumes it to just be coincidence and shrugs it off, letting you do whatever you want with no consequences.

Oh yeah and last but not least, go learn spelling and grammar, STUPID. Especially if you plan on holding arguments with Satanists ever again.
Good day to you, sir.

HAIL SATAN AND THE GODS OF OLD!!!!

Aug 27, 2009#13

--- In , Allison P <apocalypseofjon@... wrote:

Anyway,hi.I'm new to the group and I've been dedicated for year and a half now.
Hail Satan

--- In , Allison P <apocalypseofjon@... wrote:

Anyway,hi.I'm new to the group and I've been dedicated for year and a half now.
Hail Satan

Aug 27, 2009#14

well... its nice that you share your opinions with us dude! its always a good thing to speak your mind.
however, you have to realize that some of us are atheistic to begin with. i am. i base everything on true and proven evidence that "I" have seen and felt in combination to a scientific explanation, most of the which make sense when you take into consideration the quantum realms. ... i don't care about what some chick tells me what is the truth, shes a lier until proven.. which is why I'm here, i have proven it to myself, which is good enough for me.
to be honest i have not been standing in a corner trying to convert you into believing what i believe cause i think every one should believe what they think is true to them (not having it shoved down there throat or believe what ever they are told cause they are too lazy to figure it out them selves)
and who will say that forms of meditation are bad for you? I'm a migraine sufferer and the simple act of meditation has lessened my ailments by half! my doctor is happy and i don't take as many meds, and that has nothing to do with Satan...how about yoga?
have you even read the site? may be you are looking for the xian satanist that kill animals for some fake non-exciting entity that is the ruler of evil that fell from a place called heaven...we don't believe in that nonsense nor do we take any pleasure in killing animals, thats sick.

anyway... if you wanted some one to argue with why not go xian sites, they rip on us all the time! and next time you start to make it look like you are smarter because you don't believe in anything, use spell check dude! ( one thing we can all believe in).

HAIL SATAN!!!

well... its nice that you share your opinions with us dude! its always a good thing to speak your mind.
however, you have to realize that some of us are atheistic to begin with. i am. i base everything on true and proven evidence that "I" have seen and felt in combination to a scientific explanation, most of the which make sense when you take into consideration the quantum realms. ... i don't care about what some chick tells me what is the truth, shes a lier until proven.. which is why I'm here, i have proven it to myself, which is good enough for me.
to be honest i have not been standing in a corner trying to convert you into believing what i believe cause i think every one should believe what they think is true to them (not having it shoved down there throat or believe what ever they are told cause they are too lazy to figure it out them selves)
and who will say that forms of meditation are bad for you? I'm a migraine sufferer and the simple act of meditation has lessened my ailments by half! my doctor is happy and i don't take as many meds, and that has nothing to do with Satan...how about yoga?
have you even read the site? may be you are looking for the xian satanist that kill animals for some fake non-exciting entity that is the ruler of evil that fell from a place called heaven...we don't believe in that nonsense nor do we take any pleasure in killing animals, thats sick.

anyway... if you wanted some one to argue with why not go xian sites, they rip on us all the time! and next time you start to make it look like you are smarter because you don't believe in anything, use spell check dude! ( one thing we can all believe in).

HAIL SATAN!!!

Aug 27, 2009#15

trying to get our attention???????????...........i really hope that atleast you exist in your reality....

trying to get our attention???????????...........i really hope that atleast you exist in your reality....

Aug 27, 2009#16

You remind me of some horses at the track...wearing blinders, you have tunnelvision, it's your pathetic ignorance that keeps you from unlocking the powers in your mind that everyone has within them somewhere recessed.

Perhaps you are one of those poor people wandering the earth, angry at the world, with a meaningless life and occupation, blaming everyone else but yourself for who and what you are.

You say you are agnostic/atheist correct? That means to you, there is no truth, therefore you have no idea what you're talking about when you say some form of truth upsets us...what upsets us are ignorant, mindless, useless people such as yourself who go off half cocked saying ridiculous things. If you don't have anything intelligent to say, then be quiet...obviously, besides your mother not breastfeading you, she certainly didn't teach you that either.

Now go and play somewhere else little one!

Hail Satan!!!

-- In , "icca22os" <icca22os@... wrote:

You remind me of some horses at the track...wearing blinders, you have tunnelvision, it's your pathetic ignorance that keeps you from unlocking the powers in your mind that everyone has within them somewhere recessed.

Perhaps you are one of those poor people wandering the earth, angry at the world, with a meaningless life and occupation, blaming everyone else but yourself for who and what you are.

You say you are agnostic/atheist correct? That means to you, there is no truth, therefore you have no idea what you're talking about when you say some form of truth upsets us...what upsets us are ignorant, mindless, useless people such as yourself who go off half cocked saying ridiculous things. If you don't have anything intelligent to say, then be quiet...obviously, besides your mother not breastfeading you, she certainly didn't teach you that either.

Now go and play somewhere else little one!

Hail Satan!!!

-- In , "icca22os" <icca22os@... wrote:

Aug 27, 2009#17

I couldn't have said it better, Mysterious Power.

Aug 27, 2009#18

--- In , Loki Tanas <loki_tanas_18@... wrote:

Any and everyone alive is entitled to personal opinions.
The significant element in all of that, though, is that what's actually real is non-dependent upon human opinions or concepts---what's real simply continues to exist, whether disbelieved by billions of people or supported by as many.

Fortunately, Satan and his demons do not need human permission in order to exist and influence the world; even those unbelieving toward them as real persons have been and continue to be under their collective influence to some extent, despite their ignorance of or denial of that fact.
To date, I know of no one claiming to be able to see the wind, but most reasonable people will admit its effects upon earth's ecology and the creatures who inhabit the earth.

The existence of demons can no more be proven to be figments of human mentality than can the wind in any of its forms and cycles.
Even a general acknowledgement of an unidentified intelligence existing within the known Universe implies the necessity of maintaining an open mind on the nature of that unknown but suspected intelligence.
There has always existed designs and patterns within the recorded affairs of mankind, which indeed indicates supernatural intelligence plus power and intent.

All told, nothing can ever be proven to someone who chooses to remain unconvinced in the face of every example given; nor can disbelief disprove the existence of a thing.
So Satan---and his unseen demons---continue to exist as happily as ever in the face of every man-made "ist", from Satanist, to atheist.

--- In , Loki Tanas <loki_tanas_18@... wrote:

Any and everyone alive is entitled to personal opinions.
The significant element in all of that, though, is that what's actually real is non-dependent upon human opinions or concepts---what's real simply continues to exist, whether disbelieved by billions of people or supported by as many.

Fortunately, Satan and his demons do not need human permission in order to exist and influence the world; even those unbelieving toward them as real persons have been and continue to be under their collective influence to some extent, despite their ignorance of or denial of that fact.
To date, I know of no one claiming to be able to see the wind, but most reasonable people will admit its effects upon earth's ecology and the creatures who inhabit the earth.

The existence of demons can no more be proven to be figments of human mentality than can the wind in any of its forms and cycles.
Even a general acknowledgement of an unidentified intelligence existing within the known Universe implies the necessity of maintaining an open mind on the nature of that unknown but suspected intelligence.
There has always existed designs and patterns within the recorded affairs of mankind, which indeed indicates supernatural intelligence plus power and intent.

All told, nothing can ever be proven to someone who chooses to remain unconvinced in the face of every example given; nor can disbelief disprove the existence of a thing.
So Satan---and his unseen demons---continue to exist as happily as ever in the face of every man-made "ist", from Satanist, to atheist.

Aug 27, 2009#19

hey man, the only reason you havnt seen anything yet is because you dont deserve to see, posting bullshit like that.
your just pathetic get a life. Most of us have seen things.

hey man, the only reason you havnt seen anything yet is because you dont deserve to see, posting bullshit like that.
your just pathetic get a life. Most of us have seen things.