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Dear brothers and sisters, Please do not use Vinada on yourself, is destructive!
Good call, High Priestess.Hps.mlimlal666 said:Dear brothers and sisters, Please do not use Vinada on yourself, is destructive!
Shael said:Good call, High Priestess.Hps.mlimlal666 said:Dear brothers and sisters, Please do not use Vinada on yourself, is destructive!
I searched up "Vinasa" in the sanskrit dictionary, and it's related version "Vinaza" carries many bad meanings like 'Destruction', 'Death', 'Decay', 'Ruin', 'Removal', and so on.
A potential alternative aside from the already mentioned Ansuz and Uruz, may be the sanskrit mantra "ApohAti", which fits quite accurately into the purpose of removing unwanted/unhealthy links and connections.
Meanings of "ApohAti" accoridng to spokensanskrit.org are:
to remove
to strip off
to push away
to frighten away
to remove/heal diseases
For anyone reading this, if you want to try this mantra out, always keep in mind that if it doesn't feel good, and if it makes you feel bad in some way, it's usually a pretty good indicator that it's not good for you. So do your own research and test things out carefully. Generally sanskrit mantras are safe to use provided they do not carry any malicious meanings, but still, all of this should be taken with a grain of salt.
Jack said:Another member called WotanWarrior has been doing it with seemingly good results. But another user said he could not do more than 54 reps as it was too negative,too much shit was coming up. Maybe it brute forces negative energies to come out, is that why its destructive ? I've never tried it myself though. Maybe someone advanced could comment on this situation.
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=77177#p77177
darkmonkey666 said:Shael said:Good call, High Priestess.Hps.mlimlal666 said:Dear brothers and sisters, Please do not use Vinada on yourself, is destructive!
I searched up "Vinasa" in the sanskrit dictionary, and it's related version "Vinaza" carries many bad meanings like 'Destruction', 'Death', 'Decay', 'Ruin', 'Removal', and so on.
A potential alternative aside from the already mentioned Ansuz and Uruz, may be the sanskrit mantra "ApohAti", which fits quite accurately into the purpose of removing unwanted/unhealthy links and connections.
Meanings of "ApohAti" accoridng to spokensanskrit.org are:
to remove
to strip off
to push away
to frighten away
to remove/heal diseases
For anyone reading this, if you want to try this mantra out, always keep in mind that if it doesn't feel good, and if it makes you feel bad in some way, it's usually a pretty good indicator that it's not good for you. So do your own research and test things out carefully. Generally sanskrit mantras are safe to use provided they do not carry any malicious meanings, but still, all of this should be taken with a grain of salt.
Thank you I will try this word. With that said I should have stopped after just a few vibrations since it didnt feel good or give me a good feeling at all plus the energy was black that is why I posted in the bottom that this didnt feel right. But others on here were doing it and one person for a whole month supposedly so I assumed that must just be energy from the enemy links.
I will not do something if my intuition says its not right which it did here or stop immediately next time if it doesnt feel right.
Hail Satan
Wotanwarrior said:Jack said:Another member called WotanWarrior has been doing it with seemingly good results. But another user said he could not do more than 54 reps as it was too negative,too much shit was coming up. Maybe it brute forces negative energies to come out, is that why its destructive ? I've never tried it myself though. Maybe someone advanced could comment on this situation.
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=77177#p77177
I have suspended it immediately, what has saved me has been the aura of protection and the cleaning works,please nobody do this.
darkmonkey666 said:Hopefully to add to what I forgot to say I didnt do any damage on myself would the sun mantra or something get rid of that 111 vibrations was a lot for that word when it said just to do it 9 in the banishing ritual. That was dumb but it did free me from something or remove something on a positive note which is odd i got that feeling I feel way calmer today and dont get obsessive thoughts. I wont do something like this again
Hail Satan
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:Wotanwarrior said:Jack said:Another member called WotanWarrior has been doing it with seemingly good results. But another user said he could not do more than 54 reps as it was too negative,too much shit was coming up. Maybe it brute forces negative energies to come out, is that why its destructive ? I've never tried it myself though. Maybe someone advanced could comment on this situation.
https://www.ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=77177#p77177
I have suspended it immediately, what has saved me has been the aura of protection and the cleaning works,please nobody do this.
I thought on your first post that you used it to kill thoughforms or external things, not literally on yourself. I was like no way it would be used on someone's self.
Start spamming cleaning now for double the amount of reps you have been doing. Suryae is going to do the deal.
This is why the community is needed, so people can receive help if needed.
I thought on your first post that you used it to kill thoughforms or external things, not literally on yourself. I was like no way it would be used on someone's self.[/quote]HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:
Can it be used as a death spell on another person ?HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:darkmonkey666 said:Shael said:Good call, High Priestess.
I searched up "Vinasa" in the sanskrit dictionary, and it's related version "Vinaza" carries many bad meanings like 'Destruction', 'Death', 'Decay', 'Ruin', 'Removal', and so on.
A potential alternative aside from the already mentioned Ansuz and Uruz, may be the sanskrit mantra "ApohAti", which fits quite accurately into the purpose of removing unwanted/unhealthy links and connections.
Meanings of "ApohAti" accoridng to spokensanskrit.org are:
to remove
to strip off
to push away
to frighten away
to remove/heal diseases
For anyone reading this, if you want to try this mantra out, always keep in mind that if it doesn't feel good, and if it makes you feel bad in some way, it's usually a pretty good indicator that it's not good for you. So do your own research and test things out carefully. Generally sanskrit mantras are safe to use provided they do not carry any malicious meanings, but still, all of this should be taken with a grain of salt.
Thank you I will try this word. With that said I should have stopped after just a few vibrations since it didnt feel good or give me a good feeling at all plus the energy was black that is why I posted in the bottom that this didnt feel right. But others on here were doing it and one person for a whole month supposedly so I assumed that must just be energy from the enemy links.
I will not do something if my intuition says its not right which it did here or stop immediately next time if it doesnt feel right.
Hail Satan
Do not practice death mantras on yourself. Like seriously. If it is about death, move away.
Is it an online dictionary? Can I have the link please ?Shael said:Good call, High Priestess.Hps.mlimlal666 said:Dear brothers and sisters, Please do not use Vinada on yourself, is destructive!
I searched up "Vinasa" in the sanskrit dictionary, and it's related version "Vinaza" carries many bad meanings like 'Destruction', 'Death', 'Decay', 'Ruin', 'Removal', and so on.
A potential alternative aside from the already mentioned Ansuz and Uruz, may be the sanskrit mantra "ApohAti", which fits quite accurately into the purpose of removing unwanted/unhealthy links and connections.
Meanings of "ApohAti" accoridng to spokensanskrit.org are:
to remove
to strip off
to push away
to frighten away
to remove/heal diseases
For anyone reading this, if you want to try this mantra out, always keep in mind that if it doesn't feel good, and if it makes you feel bad in some way, it's usually a pretty good indicator that it's not good for you. So do your own research and test things out carefully. Generally sanskrit mantras are safe to use provided they do not carry any malicious meanings, but still, all of this should be taken with a grain of salt.
Just to clarify in case I was unclear in my post - I do not recommend ever using Vinasa. The mantra I was referring to is ApohAti, as it embodies the properties that members were initially looking for, being those of healthy removal of unwanted links to the enemy.HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:darkmonkey666 said:Shael said:Good call, High Priestess.
I searched up "Vinasa" in the sanskrit dictionary, and it's related version "Vinaza" carries many bad meanings like 'Destruction', 'Death', 'Decay', 'Ruin', 'Removal', and so on.
A potential alternative aside from the already mentioned Ansuz and Uruz, may be the sanskrit mantra "ApohAti", which fits quite accurately into the purpose of removing unwanted/unhealthy links and connections.
Meanings of "ApohAti" accoridng to spokensanskrit.org are:
to remove
to strip off
to push away
to frighten away
to remove/heal diseases
For anyone reading this, if you want to try this mantra out, always keep in mind that if it doesn't feel good, and if it makes you feel bad in some way, it's usually a pretty good indicator that it's not good for you. So do your own research and test things out carefully. Generally sanskrit mantras are safe to use provided they do not carry any malicious meanings, but still, all of this should be taken with a grain of salt.
Thank you I will try this word. With that said I should have stopped after just a few vibrations since it didnt feel good or give me a good feeling at all plus the energy was black that is why I posted in the bottom that this didnt feel right. But others on here were doing it and one person for a whole month supposedly so I assumed that must just be energy from the enemy links.
I will not do something if my intuition says its not right which it did here or stop immediately next time if it doesnt feel right.
Hail Satan
Do not practice death mantras on yourself. Like seriously. If it is about death, move away.
As stated in my message, the link is http://spokensanskrit.org.Jack said:Is it an online dictionary? Can I have the link please ?
Jack said:Can it be used as a death spell on another person ?
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:I never used this personally, nor I was aware of it, but it appears this means destruction and death or something. Stay away from this thing. Vinasa, Vinaza means death.
Its one of these bullshit that people somehow created and then took a life of its own in the groups.
I also wanted to add that this is listed only for external use.
This is listed as a death mantra. Do not use on yourselves.
Aldrick Strickland said:HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:I never used this personally, nor I was aware of it, but it appears this means destruction and death or something. Stay away from this thing. Vinasa, Vinaza means death.
Its one of these bullshit that people somehow created and then took a life of its own in the groups.
I also wanted to add that this is listed only for external use.
This is listed as a death mantra. Do not use on yourselves.
People got it from the site. The webpage The Banishing Ritual was updated in 2015 with it.
https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Banishing.html
If you want to do a death spell in combination with using a mantra, I would suggest using mantras that elevate you and put you above the person you wish to perform the deathspell on. This is fully optional of course, but it's the most applicable mantra usage for this purpose that I can think of, as using death mantras is not an option.Jack said:Can it be used as a death spell on another person ?
You can use tons of different ones. There's "Ansuz", "Uruz", "ApohAti", "Raum", "Surya", and probably many more that I can't think of currently. I would try them all and see which one feels best for youshinninglight said:So what mantra can be used in cleaning the chakras actually
Braun666 said:Jack said:Can it be used as a death spell on another person ?
It would appear to be so. BUT I would highly discourage you from venturing in this kind of feat. HPS Maxine Dietrich has mentioned how she had "death mantras", but that these needed a counter antidote mantra to go with it and neutralize the energies raised. As you are actually vibrating this within yourself. She stated that once we gain enough power that these will be released publicly.
Don't let that stop you from studying and figuring out things with the guidance of the Gods though.
Also runes when vibrated backwards can be used for cursing purposes and I read some time ago that even the squares(Mars specifically) can be used for cursing.
But this is not a hit or miss, or guessing game. One needs to 1000% know what they are doing otherwise a rebounding effect can be produced and a lingering of the negative energies can cause ruin and even death upon the "sorcerer".
HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:Aldrick Strickland said:HP. Hoodedcobra666 said:I never used this personally, nor I was aware of it, but it appears this means destruction and death or something. Stay away from this thing. Vinasa, Vinaza means death.
Its one of these bullshit that people somehow created and then took a life of its own in the groups.
I also wanted to add that this is listed only for external use.
This is listed as a death mantra. Do not use on yourselves.
People got it from the site. The webpage The Banishing Ritual was updated in 2015 with it.
https://www.satanisgod.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Banishing.html
Yes but it nowhere states for it to be used ON someone, let alone on one's self. This is something people have came up with randomly on their own.
It clearly states this is for banishing. So the idea that this was for use on someone was created from someone else, or overly represented around.
This is for external use for banishing ghosts and other enemy influences.
Please make sure to double check things before doing so. Better use Ansuz for purposes like that.
Surya. If you do the Returning curses 1 and 2 everyday you are covered for everything. I do it with Surya x216 reps everyday and i love it.shinninglight said:So what mantra can be used in cleaning the chakras actually
surya, suryae, raum.shinninglight said:So what mantra can be used in cleaning the chakras actually
So you vibrate raum on all your chakras visualizing white gold light on themAquarius said:surya, suryae, raum.shinninglight said:So what mantra can be used in cleaning the chakras actually
Shael said:A potential alternative aside from the already mentioned Ansuz and Uruz, may be the sanskrit mantra "ApohAti", which fits quite accurately into the purpose of removing unwanted/unhealthy links and connections.
Meanings of "ApohAti" accoridng to spokensanskrit.org are:
to remove
to strip off
to push away
to frighten away
to remove/heal diseases
For anyone reading this, if you want to try this mantra out, always keep in mind that if it doesn't feel good, and if it makes you feel bad in some way, it's usually a pretty good indicator that it's not good for you. So do your own research and test things out carefully. Generally Sanskrit mantras are safe to use provided they do not carry any malicious meanings, but still, all of this should be taken with a grain of salt.
I agree, there is no way to be 100% sure. However, using multiple sources and cross-referencing it across these, as well as trying them personally & feeling their energies, is usually enough to determine whether or not their meanings are genuine.Rook said:I wouldn't trust the Sanskrit words found on the web.Shael said:
There's no way to know if these translations of the words are 100% true.
It is indeed fusional. With that in mind--Rook said:In my time learning Sanskrit I've found it to be a very fusional language, 1 word like water can be written a many different ways, they're sometimes 100s of way to write 1 word.
This is because Sanskrit takes it's root words and fuses it together, 1 word like water can be expressed in my different ways to by fusing different root words together.
If we take a look at ApohAti, it appears to be a fusion of the words "apoha" and "Ati". Beginning with "apoha", it has meanings that are very similar to ApohAti itself, with 'remove', 'argue', 'deny', 'to get rid of', being just a few of it's meanings.Rook said:Apoh-Ati, gives me a bad vibe right of the bat due to it's similarity to apep aka apophis
apep in the Egyptian mythos is chaos.
also, Ati is an adverb that means extreme(i ironically found this meaning from the web as well, during my studies).
we can find this exact inversion of meaning that you described.Rook said:that reminds me, be wary of Sanskrit words that start with A, if i recall correctly from my studies, when 'A' is placed in front of a Sanskrit word it inverts the meaning(correct me if i'm wrong).
if you were to take A out of ApohAti and remained with PohAtis then you've got the opposite effect/meaning.
Yesshinninglight said:So you vibrate raum on all your chakras visualizing white gold light on themAquarius said:surya, suryae, raum.shinninglight said:So what mantra can be used in cleaning the chakras actually
that's not enough for me, because almost all sites were using Om, instead of Aum, Om is basically the inverse of Aum, but they assumed that it has the same effect as Aum, this is why is am very skeptical about these things.Shael said:I agree, there is no way to be 100% sure. However, using multiple sources and cross-referencing it across these, as well as trying them personally & feeling their energies, is usually enough to determine whether or not their meanings are genuine.
So i looked up the word on google, looking at the wiki site:Shael said:If we take a look at ApohAti, it appears to be a fusion of the words "apoha" and "Ati". Beginning with "apoha", it has meanings that are very similar to ApohAti itself, with 'remove', 'argue', 'deny', 'to get rid of', being just a few of it's meanings.
Next looking at Ati,
we can find this exact inversion of meaning that you described.
"Ti" meaning 'water', and - relating to water - things like emotionality, sensitivity, sensuality, etc., we should find meanings of an opposing nature when adding 'A' to it with "Ati". So this gives us a nature that is somewhat more logical, extreme, insensitive, perhaps even ruthless. This can make "Ati" something of an intensifying 'primer' to add on to a word. Which is exactly how it seems to be used in ApohAti.
Shael said:I agree, there is no way to be 100% sure. However, using multiple sources and cross-referencing it across these, as well as trying them personally & feeling their energies, is usually enough to determine whether or not their meanings are genuine.Rook said:I wouldn't trust the Sanskrit words found on the web.Shael said:
There's no way to know if these translations of the words are 100% true.
It is indeed fusional. With that in mind--Rook said:In my time learning Sanskrit I've found it to be a very fusional language, 1 word like water can be written a many different ways, they're sometimes 100s of way to write 1 word.
This is because Sanskrit takes it's root words and fuses it together, 1 word like water can be expressed in my different ways to by fusing different root words together.If we take a look at ApohAti, it appears to be a fusion of the words "apoha" and "Ati". Beginning with "apoha", it has meanings that are very similar to ApohAti itself, with 'remove', 'argue', 'deny', 'to get rid of', being just a few of it's meanings.Rook said:Apoh-Ati, gives me a bad vibe right of the bat due to it's similarity to apep aka apophis
apep in the Egyptian mythos is chaos.
also, Ati is an adverb that means extreme(i ironically found this meaning from the web as well, during my studies).
Next looking at Ati,we can find this exact inversion of meaning that you described.Rook said:that reminds me, be wary of Sanskrit words that start with A, if i recall correctly from my studies, when 'A' is placed in front of a Sanskrit word it inverts the meaning(correct me if i'm wrong).
if you were to take A out of ApohAti and remained with PohAtis then you've got the opposite effect/meaning.
"Ti" meaning 'water', and - relating to water - things like emotionality, sensitivity, sensuality, etc., we should find meanings of an opposing nature when adding 'A' to it with "Ati". So this gives us a nature that is somewhat more logical, extreme, insensitive, perhaps even ruthless. This can make "Ati" something of an intensifying 'primer' to add on to a word. Which is exactly how it seems to be used in ApohAti.
Don't use the Saturn Square and is mantra! It has been said here that is pretty dangerous. It just invoke in you the energy of Saturn wich is a overall negative energy.darkmonkey666 said:Shael said:I agree, there is no way to be 100% sure. However, using multiple sources and cross-referencing it across these, as well as trying them personally & feeling their energies, is usually enough to determine whether or not their meanings are genuine.Rook said:I wouldn't trust the Sanskrit words found on the web.
There's no way to know if these translations of the words are 100% true.
It is indeed fusional. With that in mind--Rook said:In my time learning Sanskrit I've found it to be a very fusional language, 1 word like water can be written a many different ways, they're sometimes 100s of way to write 1 word.
This is because Sanskrit takes it's root words and fuses it together, 1 word like water can be expressed in my different ways to by fusing different root words together.If we take a look at ApohAti, it appears to be a fusion of the words "apoha" and "Ati". Beginning with "apoha", it has meanings that are very similar to ApohAti itself, with 'remove', 'argue', 'deny', 'to get rid of', being just a few of it's meanings.Rook said:Apoh-Ati, gives me a bad vibe right of the bat due to it's similarity to apep aka apophis
apep in the Egyptian mythos is chaos.
also, Ati is an adverb that means extreme(i ironically found this meaning from the web as well, during my studies).
Next looking at Ati,we can find this exact inversion of meaning that you described.Rook said:that reminds me, be wary of Sanskrit words that start with A, if i recall correctly from my studies, when 'A' is placed in front of a Sanskrit word it inverts the meaning(correct me if i'm wrong).
if you were to take A out of ApohAti and remained with PohAtis then you've got the opposite effect/meaning.
"Ti" meaning 'water', and - relating to water - things like emotionality, sensitivity, sensuality, etc., we should find meanings of an opposing nature when adding 'A' to it with "Ati". So this gives us a nature that is somewhat more logical, extreme, insensitive, perhaps even ruthless. This can make "Ati" something of an intensifying 'primer' to add on to a word. Which is exactly how it seems to be used in ApohAti.
I did not personally like or trust the energy of this word I only vibrated it a couple of times and cleaned it. It doesnt feel safe to use on the Chakras if you look at the way the energy goes forming this word.
Interesting about the A what about adding it on the end of the word. Such as shaniswara(a) pronounced SH-AH-NEE-SS-VAH-RR-AH-AH
RR-AH Would be like rah then ah as a seperate syllable. This changes its energy quite a lot or adds more power to it or something. I have used this when using the Saturn word for the base chakra in full chakra meditation and I did a Saturn square a long time ago with this (back when it was in Libra before we knew it was) pronounciation by mistake but yeah its different didnt seem anywhere near as negative. Different color of the energy.
Your thoughts
I respect your opinion. Personally when I find a mantra that looks good based on intuition, I proceed to vibrate it for ~20 minutes and then take some time to feel & analyze it's energies in-depth. Usually if a mantra is "bad" in nature, this can easily be felt via this method (usually long before even vibrating it for 20 minutes, in which case I stop vibrating it earlier of course).Rook said:that's not enough for me, because almost all sites were using Om, instead of Aum, Om is basically the inverse of Aum, but they assumed that it has the same effect as Aum, this is why is am very skeptical about these things.
I must admit I based much of my theorizing in regards to "ti" on intuition and on it's relation to ApohAti itself. What I had in mind was that "ti" had qualities relating to ida, aka emotional and sensitive, and would be reversed towards pingala as "Ati", meaning more towards the logical and destructive, masculine side. It would be ascribed qualities more akin to water & earth, and with "Ati" qualities of fire & air, which would indeed encompass the logical side that you had attributed to air.Rook said:So i looked up the word on google, looking at the wiki site:
अपोहति - Apohati[1] seems to be a combination of the root word अप-apa(अप्-ap)[2] and ऊहति-ūhati(उह्-uh)[3]
You know what's funny? in my 1st post here i said that they're a lot of ways to write the word water and ap is a term for water[4], and then you tell me 'ti' meaning water and relating to water.
of course in my 1st post, water was a completely random word i selected to show how Sanskrit can be complicated and intertwined like that, but water was the 1st to come to my mind as if it was a given.
However isn't the opposite to water, fire? it's not really logical(that's air) but instead destructive and consuming, destruction is useful if you're getting rid of negative dross, if i recall correctly isn't Munka is one of Satan's name as the destroyer of impurity?
I will be honest here in saying that I did not know these things were based on personal interpretation. I have not studied the language outside of what was required for me to dig up potentially useful mantras.Rook said:so based on the site you linked earlier this is what it says, they're a lot of meanings give to those words, as one would expect, these are based on different translations of vedic texts, and when people do these translations they're interpreting it in their own way.
this makes it sort of unreliable to me
Like I mentioned to Rook in my latest reply, I usually go through a testing phase with every sanskrit mantra before I use it. I did not do this with ApohAti however, as I was under the wrongful assumption that the meanings of these words were definite. If the mantra felt negative to you, it's probably best not to use it.darkmonkey666 said:I did not personally like or trust the energy of this word I only vibrated it a couple of times and cleaned it. It doesnt feel safe to use on the Chakras if you look at the way the energy goes forming this word.
I have not personally studied sanskrit in enough depth to give a definitive answer to this, so the following will be based solely on my intuition.darkmonkey666 said:Interesting about the A what about adding it on the end of the word. Such as shaniswara(a) pronounced SH-AH-NEE-SS-VAH-RR-AH-AH
RR-AH Would be like rah then ah as a seperate syllable. This changes its energy quite a lot or adds more power to it or something. I have used this when using the Saturn word for the base chakra in full chakra meditation and I did a Saturn square a long time ago with this (back when it was in Libra before we knew it was) pronounciation by mistake but yeah its different didnt seem anywhere near as negative. Different color of the energy.
Your thoughts
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