Something You Don't Want to Hear

[Jrvan]

Sheep get a really bad reputation, but what we need to realize is that all those xian sheep are greatly feared by the enemy. As much as it might be hard to admit, they have also posed a great problem to Satanists on Earth - otherwise they wouldn't be bitched about so often. I don't mean to poke, but it's just a fact that as mighty and powerful as we may be, xians are an obstacle to our goals, and have historically been an obstacle. We can debate the reasons why that is, and I'm sure many of us could come up with some good ones and even get to the bottom of it, but at the end of the day they are still a problem for us.

What I want to convey is that the power of the sheep is actually very great. No matter how much both sides look down on them, shame them, use them in metaphors, etc... they are still an obstacle to both our side and the enemy at times. Everyone seems to hate on the sheep. Here's the thing though: even on low spiritual power mode due to the enemy, they still created such a formidable amount of energy and power for the jewish curses, thoughtforms, and whatnot. That bible spellbook on its own has no charge. Just think that a spiritually low class of people generated that much power over time, on the lowest power setting. Now imagine what they could do if they were all spiritually empowered.

Sheep aren't such awful, lowly creatures like people think. Their power is in the herd, and it's not bad to be part of a herd, nor does it necessarily mean that one cannot think for themselves (or that one is necessarily weak on their own). Whether low power or high power, they are still strong and mighty together. Their power is in unity. And the most important part is that their direction all depends on the shepherd. The sacred sheep herder. The power of the sheep can either be harnessed by a wise, spiritual Pharaoh... or it can be harnessed by jews. The jews murdered our ancestors and stole the mantle of the sacred shepherd role. They have been guiding the sheep off the cliffs ever since.

When they are guided by the good, Satanic King and Shepherd, they are empowered all together, and their power is unimaginable. If they were guided to all of the destruction caused over the many ages, then imagine what they can do in a spiritual society with a spiritual king guiding them. It really all depends on who is the shepherd.

Jews really are the worst shepherds of all time. None of the sheep trust them anymore, and few are willing to follow them anymore. This pisses them off, and I'm glad. All the jews want to do is eat the sheep, whereas all we want is for the sheep to be happy, healthy, and spiritual. We want our people safe and enlightened.

My point is that there is nothing wrong with sheep - only the shepherd. It's high time for the good sheep to have a good shepherd again.

Thanks for reading.

 

[Sunny]

Calling our peoples cattle or sheep is derogatory and offensive in my opinion.

Jows call themselves gods but in reality they are slaves fighting for slavery.

It is our free peoples fighting for freedom that are true gods.

 

[Rational Satanist]

When they are guided by the good, Satanic King and Shepherd, they are empowered all together, and their power is unimaginable. If they were guided to all of the destruction caused over the many ages, then imagine what they can do in a spiritual society with a spiritual king guiding them. It really all depends on who is the shepherd.

This isn't going to happen unless Satanism becomes the dominant majority religion. The term sheep means those who follow the status quo without question. Currently, Satanism is not even close to becoming the status quo. It's a very fringe religion full of different fringe topics that most mainstream people find anything from useless and absurd to evil and racist, like aliens, psychic powers, Satanism, National Socialism and anti-jewism. A true "sheep" will not get close to accepting even one of them, so more all of them. To get your mind around questioning the things you have been told about one of them, you need to be a wolf (the opposite of a sheep) to some degree.

There's another point I can make: Christianity is a religion appropriate to the sheep. All it needs you to do is conform, worship some being and believe what some priest or pastor says. But Satanism isn't like that at all. If you just blindly worship Satan without working on your soul or take any other action you are the same as the outsiders. You will not notice any spiritual progress at all. It also requires perseverence and strength as the enemies don't like us, so you have to put up with adversity, both in real life and sometimes in psychic attacks.

I've noticed this with mostly sheep with a little bit of wolf inside them who come from Christianity. Many want to worship Satan, don't want to meditate, don't want to study and if they experience a psychic attack or some xian trying to de-convert them they immediately turn to jewsus.

So, if you want to be a successful SS you need to be a wolf. Not a sheep. A wolf.

This makes me wonder what will happen if SS becomes the majority religion. Will the sheep believe in a lazy, watered-down, cafeteria version of SS instead of the real thing? Who knows...

 

[Rational Satanist]

When they are guided by the good, Satanic King and Shepherd, they are empowered all together, and their power is unimaginable. If they were guided to all of the destruction caused over the many ages, then imagine what they can do in a spiritual society with a spiritual king guiding them. It really all depends on who is the shepherd.

This isn't going to happen unless Satanism becomes the dominant majority religion. The term sheep means those who follow the status quo without question. Currently, Satanism is not even close to becoming the status quo. It's a very fringe religion full of different fringe topics that most mainstream people find anything from useless and absurd to evil and racist, like aliens, psychic powers, Satanism, National Socialism and anti-jewism. A true "sheep" will not get close to accepting even one of them, so more all of them. To get your mind around questioning the things you have been told about one of them, you need to be a wolf (the opposite of a sheep) to some degree.

There's another point I can make: Christianity is a religion appropriate to the sheep. All it needs you to do is conform, worship some being and believe what some priest or pastor says. But Satanism isn't like that at all. If you just blindly worship Satan without working on your soul or take any other action you are the same as the outsiders. You will not notice any spiritual progress at all. It also requires perseverence and strength as the enemies don't like us, so you have to put up with adversity, both in real life and sometimes in psychic attacks.

I've noticed this with mostly sheep with a little bit of wolf inside them who come from Christianity. Many want to worship Satan, don't want to meditate, don't want to study and if they experience a psychic attack or some xian trying to de-convert them they immediately turn to jewsus.

So, if you want to be a successful SS you need to be a wolf. Not a sheep. A wolf.

This makes me wonder what will happen if SS becomes the majority religion. Will the sheep believe in a lazy, watered-down, cafeteria version of SS instead of the real thing? Who knows...

 

[tabby]

It’s like how a single rain drop won’t do you any harm. But a tidal wave, tsunami, floods, rain storms, etc, certainly can which is just many trillions of water drops all connected together in one massive body. Strength and power in numbers even if the individual numbers aren’t that strong alone.

Side note: I find it weird how we praise the sacred ram (which is a male sheep), but spit on the rest of the herd which would mean spitting on the ewes i.e. female sheep. Have to wonder if that’s a deliberate move by the enemy, to push more hate on females without people realising. Food for thought.

 

[Jrvan]

When they are guided by the good, Satanic King and Shepherd, they are empowered all together, and their power is unimaginable. If they were guided to all of the destruction caused over the many ages, then imagine what they can do in a spiritual society with a spiritual king guiding them. It really all depends on who is the shepherd.

This isn't going to happen unless Satanism becomes the dominant majority religion. The term sheep means those who follow the status quo without question. Currently, Satanism is not even close to becoming the status quo. It's a very fringe religion full of different fringe topics that most mainstream people find anything from useless and absurd to evil and racist, like aliens, psychic powers, Satanism, National Socialism and anti-jewism. A true "sheep" will not get close to accepting even one of them, so more all of them. To get your mind around questioning the things you have been told about one of them, you need to be a wolf (the opposite of a sheep) to some degree.

There's another point I can make: Christianity is a religion appropriate to the sheep. All it needs you to do is conform, worship some being and believe what some priest or pastor says. But Satanism isn't like that at all. If you just blindly worship Satan without working on your soul or take any other action you are the same as the outsiders. You will not notice any spiritual progress at all. It also requires perseverence and strength as the enemies don't like us, so you have to put up with adversity, both in real life and sometimes in psychic attacks.

I've noticed this with mostly sheep with a little bit of wolf inside them who come from Christianity. Many want to worship Satan, don't want to meditate, don't want to study and if they experience a psychic attack or some xian trying to de-convert them they immediately turn to jewsus.

So, if you want to be a successful SS you need to be a wolf. Not a sheep. A wolf.

This makes me wonder what will happen if SS becomes the majority religion. Will the sheep believe in a lazy, watered-down, cafeteria version of SS instead of the real thing? Who knows...

Well, here's the thing. Spiritual Satanism is the top level, it's for elites. You could say this is like the mystery schools. The people in ancient times knew the stories of the Gods, the myths, and it was passed down, and it shaped their culture. The Priests of Pagan societies were versed in the mysteries, and they ensured that the people were safe and lived good lives, and probably were in charge of proper festival organization to honor the Gods.

Not everyone is meant to be in the mystery schools, not right now and not back then. My goal here with this post is to challenge the perception of the word "sheep" in peoples' minds. Sheep follow who is leading them, and if it were a proper Priesthood and King leading them then they would prosper. If jews hadn't taken the reins then you would see what they are capable of, and back then they actually had stuff to do besides drink, watch tv, play video games, etc... they weren't lazy and whatnot like you point out, not back then.

Regarding wolves, they are also obedient followers you know. They are guided by one leader. It's just that if that leader proves to be lacking then they will challenge him and take command for the sake of survival. But the thing about that is that it's in a strict survival situation where life or death depends on the strength of their pack leader. There's a wild counterpart to most civilized things. We don't live in the wild. Tell me if you would challenge HPHC for making a mistake, and try to take his position from him as High Priest. Tell me if you would try to do the same to Father if you felt he wasn't guiding us well enough. A wolf would because it's instinct. It's not a rational decision process, it's an ingrained autopilot for the sake of survival.

Sheep are domestic. They trust their shepherd for good or bad. That's domestication, and it's not a bad thing. Being domestic and civilized isn't bad. If we think it's bad then why did we ever come together to form society in the first place? Why did the Gods do it? Society comes from the Gods. We don't need to be wild, we just need to take the reins back from the jews and steer our own herd. We need to take back the role of shepherds of society from the jews.

How well would most of us be doing as wolves or SS if we didn't have the spiritual protection of Father and the Gods? They protect us. Just like the spiritual caste of society back in ancient times protected the less advanced humans in society. They were protected from spiritual and physical threats while they grew, learned lessons, developed as people, until one day their soul was ready for the mystery schools and to tread the path to the Grail of Immortality.

We love animals, we love sheep, and we love our people. One day soon they will be liberated from xianity and the jews.

 

[Jrvan]

Calling our peoples cattle or sheep is derogatory and offensive in my opinion.

Jows call themselves gods but in reality they are slaves fighting for slavery.

It is our free peoples fighting for freedom that are true gods.

Animal metaphors are just that - metaphors. They are used to more easily talk about certain things and quickly impart meaning, and add color to the pictured understanding in peoples' minds. What I'm attempting to do is reclaim the metaphor and change the negative charge that it has to instead a positive meaning. Triggering people is part of that process.

If we hate the "sheep" then how can we ever love them and help them? How will we ever have the patience to guide them when they try to come here to learn from us? Confronting the bitterness in our hearts, I believe, is an important step forward.

Of course we dislike stupid people. Father dislikes stupidity. But we have to go through it to get to the other side where people aren't stupid anymore, and everything is brighter. We just have to do it. We must guide those who are willing to learn, even if they don't become full SS. Getting them away from xianity at the very least is imperative.

I'm not advocating too much tolerance, and especially not turning the other cheek. If someone bites us then of course do as you will.

My main point is that most people are not bad or stupid - They're just led by bad and stupid people right now, and that's not their fault. And also if you interacted with some actual sheep outside the metaphor, like on a ranch, I think you would fall in love with them. They're wonderful animals, and I don't think they should be looked down on and ridiculed so harshly.
A jewish shepherd leads them off a cliff, but a Satanic shepherd leads them to fruitfulness and prosperity.

 

[tabby]

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I really do hope one day derogatory slang and words don’t resort to animals, females, and sex. That’s all we use for insults no-thanks to the enemy twisting our languages, yet those things are sacred to SS and NS.

Anyway.

You’re right that we’re not sheep or cattle. But neither are we wolves and lions, elephants or buffalo. We’re humans. Half of ourselves is chaos, the other half is civilised, and we consciously choose to grow and harmonise them. What we should be is ourselves because we can’t compare our species and situation to the likes of the animal kingdom. At least not directly.

Humans are their own kind. That’s something we forget. With the right leaders, humans could tap into the potential they have and be an incredible species once again. But like anything, a bad leader will bring ruin to good people as jrvan is stating. We blame these overly domestic people who don’t know war or struggle, and have been bred and taught by bad leaders to be stupid.

When we find Satan’s light to guide us home, we can forget that not so long ago we were in that boat, blinded and asleep. We’re just some of the lucky ones who were strong enough to become lucid and woke up. I blame those who know full well what they’re doing on the enemies side, and the corrupted leaders who stole and killed ours, and most importantly the kikes and reptillians. I blame the criminal priests of the church, and those who turn their blades knowingly on Father Satan.

But I can’t blame the families who are just trying to survive and don’t know any better. The kids, their mothers, their fathers. They’re humans. Gentiles. In my opinion, those are the kinds people I wish to protect and help outside of SS, because if they knew what we do, I know they’d return to Satan.

It’s frustrating watching our people walk to their death, screaming at them to wake up. But if we can stall for time and take down the corrupted (((leaders))), we can steer our people in the right direction again. We can’t save everyone, but we can save as many as possible.

 

[Jrvan]

I should also mention that the sheep is one of the most important symbols in Paganism as it's central in the beginning stage of the Magnum Opus. The Sun enters the sign of Aries the Ram, which is a sheep. Sheep are a literal symbol for the sun mantra Raum.

You could say we guide our people until they are ready to begin their hunt for their own golden fleece, and turn their wool to gold. Then with their newfound immortality, they can hone their skills and craftsmanship, sheer themselves, and make their own dress of pure gold.

Sheep are NOT BAAAAAAAAD!

 

[Wayofthegods]

When they are guided by the good, Satanic King and Shepherd, they are empowered all together, and their power is unimaginable. If they were guided to all of the destruction caused over the many ages, then imagine what they can do in a spiritual society with a spiritual king guiding them. It really all depends on who is the shepherd.

This isn't going to happen unless Satanism becomes the dominant majority religion. The term sheep means those who follow the status quo without question. Currently, Satanism is not even close to becoming the status quo. It's a very fringe religion full of different fringe topics that most mainstream people find anything from useless and absurd to evil and racist, like aliens, psychic powers, Satanism, National Socialism and anti-jewism. A true "sheep" will not get close to accepting even one of them, so more all of them. To get your mind around questioning the things you have been told about one of them, you need to be a wolf (the opposite of a sheep) to some degree.

There's another point I can make: Christianity is a religion appropriate to the sheep. All it needs you to do is conform, worship some being and believe what some priest or pastor says. But Satanism isn't like that at all. If you just blindly worship Satan without working on your soul or take any other action you are the same as the outsiders. You will not notice any spiritual progress at all. It also requires perseverence and strength as the enemies don't like us, so you have to put up with adversity, both in real life and sometimes in psychic attacks.

I've noticed this with mostly sheep with a little bit of wolf inside them who come from Christianity. Many want to worship Satan, don't want to meditate, don't want to study and if they experience a psychic attack or some xian trying to de-convert them they immediately turn to jewsus.

So, if you want to be a successful SS you need to be a wolf. Not a sheep. A wolf.

This makes me wonder what will happen if SS becomes the majority religion. Will the sheep believe in a lazy, watered-down, cafeteria version of SS instead of the real thing? Who knows...

"Not a sheep, a wolf" This.

They will be Pagans. As things were for thousands of years. You have the Elite who advance and the rest of the world believe in eight legged horses and minotaur. But they connect to the Gods.

 

[Jrvan]

Xians didn't invent the analogy of the church congregation being the pastor shepherd's flock. They stole it. Maxine has said a thousand times that jews and xians don't have anything original of their own, that they stole all of it from Pagans. The steeple on the church? A phallus/obelisk. The wreath on the door? A yoni/ouroboros. The whole setup inside? A magick ritual. The idea of the church building itself was stolen from the Pagan Temple.

Just like they stole the name of a God of Shepherds for one of the names of their so-called "God" and their shitty tetragrammaton. The flock of sheep is a stolen metaphor, and we only think of it as bad because we hate xians.

 

[Bravera]

There is absolutley no advantage to having Christianity on this planet.

I might actually argue that Xians could be potentially worse than jews in some scenarios because they are Infiltrators with a Gentile Soul.
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You make it sound like Xianity is some kind of buffer between us and the jews. But Xianity is A WEAPON designed for the infiltration and destruction of Spiritual Satanism.
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We do not curse Xians, we remove their curses, and give them an option to not be slaves.
HPHC has been explaining this in depth in recent sermons.

The level of consciousness of humanity is the primary issue, more primary even than every problem ongoing currently in this world physically. This has caused humanity to be in front of the enemy's fangs today.

 

[Jrvan]

When they are guided by the good, Satanic King and Shepherd, they are empowered all together, and their power is unimaginable. If they were guided to all of the destruction caused over the many ages, then imagine what they can do in a spiritual society with a spiritual king guiding them. It really all depends on who is the shepherd.

This isn't going to happen unless Satanism becomes the dominant majority religion. The term sheep means those who follow the status quo without question. Currently, Satanism is not even close to becoming the status quo. It's a very fringe religion full of different fringe topics that most mainstream people find anything from useless and absurd to evil and racist, like aliens, psychic powers, Satanism, National Socialism and anti-jewism. A true "sheep" will not get close to accepting even one of them, so more all of them. To get your mind around questioning the things you have been told about one of them, you need to be a wolf (the opposite of a sheep) to some degree.

There's another point I can make: Christianity is a religion appropriate to the sheep. All it needs you to do is conform, worship some being and believe what some priest or pastor says. But Satanism isn't like that at all. If you just blindly worship Satan without working on your soul or take any other action you are the same as the outsiders. You will not notice any spiritual progress at all. It also requires perseverence and strength as the enemies don't like us, so you have to put up with adversity, both in real life and sometimes in psychic attacks.

I've noticed this with mostly sheep with a little bit of wolf inside them who come from Christianity. Many want to worship Satan, don't want to meditate, don't want to study and if they experience a psychic attack or some xian trying to de-convert them they immediately turn to jewsus.

So, if you want to be a successful SS you need to be a wolf. Not a sheep. A wolf.

This makes me wonder what will happen if SS becomes the majority religion. Will the sheep believe in a lazy, watered-down, cafeteria version of SS instead of the real thing? Who knows...

I thought of another thing I wanted to touch on about wolves. I've noticed that jews a lot of times like to think of themselves as wolves devouring the goyim sheep. However, wolves don't go into the middle of the flock and place a stereo blasting subliminal verses from the bible, or do weird ritualistic bloodletting and slurp the sheep's blood like a creepy vampire. No, jews are not wolves. It bothers me that they think of themselves as such. Wolves are marvelous creatures, and jews are lower than shit (shit actually having purpose).

If a shepherd wants to stop wolves from eating his sheep as an easy meal, then the first thing to do is not build the settlement in wolf territory and wolf hunting grounds.
Next thing is to have a shepherd dog. About shepherd dogs... I find it interesting that dogs can actually breed with sheep. I haven't found any evidence of the offspring being fertile online, but it would be a stunning thing to find out if sheep dogs are actually descended from ancient pairings between dogs and sheep.

 

[Jrvan]

There is absolutley no advantage to having Christianity on this planet.

I might actually argue that Xians could be potentially worse than jews in some scenarios because they are Infiltrators with a Gentile Soul.
----
You make it sound like Xianity is some kind of buffer between us and the jews. But Xianity is A WEAPON designed for the infiltration and destruction of Spiritual Satanism.
----
We do not curse Xians, we remove their curses, and give them an option to not be slaves.
HPHC has been explaining this in depth in recent sermons.

The level of consciousness of humanity is the primary issue, more primary even than every problem ongoing currently in this world physically. This has caused humanity to be in front of the enemy's fangs today.

I'm not apologizing for xianity, I'm not advocating it, I'm not making excuses for it. So what are you talking about?

Yes, it's a weapon that was forcefully used on innocent people. Those people are blinded by it, and they can't see. All I'm saying is that we have to be their light, rather than jews and xian ministers being their "light." One light blinds, and one light illuminates. Ours is the eternal light of Satan, and it is the one that illuminates.

 

[Jrvan]

There is absolutley no advantage to having Christianity on this planet.

I might actually argue that Xians could be potentially worse than jews in some scenarios because they are Infiltrators with a Gentile Soul.
----
You make it sound like Xianity is some kind of buffer between us and the jews. But Xianity is A WEAPON designed for the infiltration and destruction of Spiritual Satanism.
----
We do not curse Xians, we remove their curses, and give them an option to not be slaves.
HPHC has been explaining this in depth in recent sermons.

The level of consciousness of humanity is the primary issue, more primary even than every problem ongoing currently in this world physically. This has caused humanity to be in front of the enemy's fangs today.

My post was quite literally about sheep, and the use of the term. Nothing more. Your extrapolation of what I appeared to be implying is incorrect. I'm not saying we should make use of xians, lol.

I'm saying that right now jews are the shepherds of xians, and one day I want us SS to be shepherds for Pagans who are no longer xians (just like our ancestors). After all, don't we want to guide and protect our people?

Does that make more sense? I didn't mean to confuse.

 

[956GOD]

When they are guided by the good, Satanic King and Shepherd, they are empowered all together, and their power is unimaginable. If they were guided to all of the destruction caused over the many ages, then imagine what they can do in a spiritual society with a spiritual king guiding them. It really all depends on who is the shepherd.

This isn't going to happen unless Satanism becomes the dominant majority religion. The term sheep means those who follow the status quo without question. Currently, Satanism is not even close to becoming the status quo. It's a very fringe religion full of different fringe topics that most mainstream people find anything from useless and absurd to evil and racist, like aliens, psychic powers, Satanism, National Socialism and anti-jewism. A true "sheep" will not get close to accepting even one of them, so more all of them. To get your mind around questioning the things you have been told about one of them, you need to be a wolf (the opposite of a sheep) to some degree.

There's another point I can make: Christianity is a religion appropriate to the sheep. All it needs you to do is conform, worship some being and believe what some priest or pastor says. But Satanism isn't like that at all. If you just blindly worship Satan without working on your soul or take any other action you are the same as the outsiders. You will not notice any spiritual progress at all. It also requires perseverence and strength as the enemies don't like us, so you have to put up with adversity, both in real life and sometimes in psychic attacks.

I've noticed this with mostly sheep with a little bit of wolf inside them who come from Christianity. Many want to worship Satan, don't want to meditate, don't want to study and if they experience a psychic attack or some xian trying to de-convert them they immediately turn to jewsus.

So, if you want to be a successful SS you need to be a wolf. Not a sheep. A wolf.

This makes me wonder what will happen if SS becomes the majority religion. Will the sheep believe in a lazy, watered-down, cafeteria version of SS instead of the real thing? Who knows...

I thought of another thing I wanted to touch on about wolves. I've noticed that jews a lot of times like to think of themselves as wolves devouring the goyim sheep. However, wolves don't go into the middle of the flock and place a stereo blasting subliminal verses from the bible, or do weird ritualistic bloodletting and slurp the sheep's blood like a creepy vampire. No, jews are not wolves. It bothers me that they think of themselves as such. Wolves are marvelous creatures, and jews are lower than shit (shit actually having purpose).

If a shepherd wants to stop wolves from eating his sheep as an easy meal, then the first thing to do is not build the settlement in wolf territory and wolf hunting grounds.
Next thing is to have a shepherd dog. About shepherd dogs... I find it interesting that dogs can actually breed with sheep. I haven't found any evidence of the offspring being fertile online, but it would be a stunning thing to find out if sheep dogs are actually descended from ancient pairings between dogs and sheep.

Build on a wolfs den, then you can desecrate and obliterate. Smart.

 

[Jrvan]

When they are guided by the good, Satanic King and Shepherd, they are empowered all together, and their power is unimaginable. If they were guided to all of the destruction caused over the many ages, then imagine what they can do in a spiritual society with a spiritual king guiding them. It really all depends on who is the shepherd.

This isn't going to happen unless Satanism becomes the dominant majority religion. The term sheep means those who follow the status quo without question. Currently, Satanism is not even close to becoming the status quo. It's a very fringe religion full of different fringe topics that most mainstream people find anything from useless and absurd to evil and racist, like aliens, psychic powers, Satanism, National Socialism and anti-jewism. A true "sheep" will not get close to accepting even one of them, so more all of them. To get your mind around questioning the things you have been told about one of them, you need to be a wolf (the opposite of a sheep) to some degree.

There's another point I can make: Christianity is a religion appropriate to the sheep. All it needs you to do is conform, worship some being and believe what some priest or pastor says. But Satanism isn't like that at all. If you just blindly worship Satan without working on your soul or take any other action you are the same as the outsiders. You will not notice any spiritual progress at all. It also requires perseverence and strength as the enemies don't like us, so you have to put up with adversity, both in real life and sometimes in psychic attacks.

I've noticed this with mostly sheep with a little bit of wolf inside them who come from Christianity. Many want to worship Satan, don't want to meditate, don't want to study and if they experience a psychic attack or some xian trying to de-convert them they immediately turn to jewsus.

So, if you want to be a successful SS you need to be a wolf. Not a sheep. A wolf.

This makes me wonder what will happen if SS becomes the majority religion. Will the sheep believe in a lazy, watered-down, cafeteria version of SS instead of the real thing? Who knows...

"Not a sheep, a wolf" This.

They will be Pagans. As things were for thousands of years. You have the Elite who advance and the rest of the world believe in eight legged horses and minotaur. But they connect to the Gods.

It's a simple fact that most people are looking for someone to guide them. That's normal, and there's nothing wrong with it. Most xians were raised in it from a young age, and once they become disenchanted with xianity, a lot of them naturally look for alternative answers to replace the filth that was previously occupying their mind. They are going to want someone to show them what the truth is. That's one of the reasons for the JoS here, I believe. It's bringing the light of Truth to gentiles.

At times we can be more like wolves with the aspects of wolves, when we need to be. And sometimes, when the role calls for us to play it, we can be more like border collies.

 

[Sunny]

Calling our peoples cattle or sheep is derogatory and offensive in my opinion.

Jows call themselves gods but in reality they are slaves fighting for slavery.

It is our free peoples fighting for freedom that are true gods.

Animal metaphors are just that - metaphors. They are used to more easily talk about certain things and quickly impart meaning, and add color to the pictured understanding in peoples' minds. What I'm attempting to do is reclaim the metaphor and change the negative charge that it has to instead a positive meaning. Triggering people is part of that process.

If we hate the "sheep" then how can we ever love them and help them? How will we ever have the patience to guide them when they try to come here to learn from us? Confronting the bitterness in our hearts, I believe, is an important step forward.

Of course we dislike stupid people. Father dislikes stupidity. But we have to go through it to get to the other side where people aren't stupid anymore, and everything is brighter. We just have to do it. We must guide those who are willing to learn, even if they don't become full SS. Getting them away from xianity at the very least is imperative.

I'm not advocating too much tolerance, and especially not turning the other cheek. If someone bites us then of course do as you will.

My main point is that most people are not bad or stupid - They're just led by bad and stupid people right now, and that's not their fault. And also if you interacted with some actual sheep outside the metaphor, like on a ranch, I think you would fall in love with them. They're wonderful animals, and I don't think they should be looked down on and ridiculed so harshly.
A jewish shepherd leads them off a cliff, but a Satanic shepherd leads them to fruitfulness and prosperity.

In my opinion, the term shepherd is not appropriate to identify a spiritual or other leader. Shepherding is not about any leadership in a race or species but it is about the breeding and exploitation of other life forms.

I am not offending or despising animals inferior to us, such as livestock, pets and animals in the wild. It is about the current situation and condition of humanity being slaves and cattle of the enemy, which is obviously an unacceptable and intolerable thing.

 

[Sunny]

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I really do hope one day derogatory slang and words don’t resort to animals, females, and sex. That’s all we use for insults no-thanks to the enemy twisting our languages, yet those things are sacred to SS and NS.

Anyway.

You’re right that we’re not sheep or cattle. But neither are we wolves and lions, elephants or buffalo. We’re humans. Half of ourselves is chaos, the other half is civilised, and we consciously choose to grow and harmonise them. What we should be is ourselves because we can’t compare our species and situation to the likes of the animal kingdom. At least not directly.

Humans are their own kind. That’s something we forget. With the right leaders, humans could tap into the potential they have and be an incredible species once again. But like anything, a bad leader will bring ruin to good people as jrvan is stating. We blame these overly domestic people who don’t know war or struggle, and have been bred and taught by bad leaders to be stupid.

When we find Satan’s light to guide us home, we can forget that not so long ago we were in that boat, blinded and asleep. We’re just some of the lucky ones who were strong enough to become lucid and woke up. I blame those who know full well what they’re doing on the enemies side, and the corrupted leaders who stole and killed ours, and most importantly the kikes and reptillians. I blame the criminal priests of the church, and those who turn their blades knowingly on Father Satan.

But I can’t blame the families who are just trying to survive and don’t know any better. The kids, their mothers, their fathers. They’re humans. Gentiles. In my opinion, those are the kinds people I wish to protect and help outside of SS, because if they knew what we do, I know they’d return to Satan.

It’s frustrating watching our people walk to their death, screaming at them to wake up. But if we can stall for time and take down the corrupted (((leaders))), we can steer our people in the right direction again. We can’t save everyone, but we can save as many as possible.

I agree. It is true that we are not sheep, cows, chickens or pigs, but it is also true that we are not canids, cats, reptiles or fish. We are humans and therefore humanoids, the most advanced life forms in the universe.

We are superior to all the other animals in this world put together. But that approach is a symbolic and metaphorical thing. We attribute superior animals to ourselves instead of inferior ones because we are and want to be superior.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

It’s like how a single rain drop won’t do you any harm. But a tidal wave, tsunami, floods, rain storms, etc, certainly can which is just many trillions of water drops all connected together in one massive body. Strength and power in numbers even if the individual numbers aren’t that strong alone.

Side note: I find it weird how we praise the sacred ram (which is a male sheep), but spit on the rest of the herd which would mean spitting on the ewes i.e. female sheep. Have to wonder if that’s a deliberate move by the enemy, to push more hate on females without people realising. Food for thought.

A ram's horns are a symbol of the same thing that other horns and antlers are symbols of, like deer antlers. The ida and pingala nadis coming up through the crown chakra of someone with an open soul.

 

[Wayofthegods]

This isn't going to happen unless Satanism becomes the dominant majority religion. The term sheep means those who follow the status quo without question. Currently, Satanism is not even close to becoming the status quo. It's a very fringe religion full of different fringe topics that most mainstream people find anything from useless and absurd to evil and racist, like aliens, psychic powers, Satanism, National Socialism and anti-jewism. A true "sheep" will not get close to accepting even one of them, so more all of them. To get your mind around questioning the things you have been told about one of them, you need to be a wolf (the opposite of a sheep) to some degree.

There's another point I can make: Christianity is a religion appropriate to the sheep. All it needs you to do is conform, worship some being and believe what some priest or pastor says. But Satanism isn't like that at all. If you just blindly worship Satan without working on your soul or take any other action you are the same as the outsiders. You will not notice any spiritual progress at all. It also requires perseverence and strength as the enemies don't like us, so you have to put up with adversity, both in real life and sometimes in psychic attacks.

I've noticed this with mostly sheep with a little bit of wolf inside them who come from Christianity. Many want to worship Satan, don't want to meditate, don't want to study and if they experience a psychic attack or some xian trying to de-convert them they immediately turn to jewsus.

So, if you want to be a successful SS you need to be a wolf. Not a sheep. A wolf.

This makes me wonder what will happen if SS becomes the majority religion. Will the sheep believe in a lazy, watered-down, cafeteria version of SS instead of the real thing? Who knows...

"Not a sheep, a wolf" This.

They will be Pagans. As things were for thousands of years. You have the Elite who advance and the rest of the world believe in eight legged horses and minotaur. But they connect to the Gods.

It's a simple fact that most people are looking for someone to guide them. That's normal, and there's nothing wrong with it. Most xians were raised in it from a young age, and once they become disenchanted with xianity, a lot of them naturally look for alternative answers to replace the filth that was previously occupying their mind. They are going to want someone to show them what the truth is. That's one of the reasons for the JoS here, I believe. It's bringing the light of Truth to gentiles.

At times we can be more like wolves with the aspects of wolves, when we need to be. And sometimes, when the role calls for us to play it, we can be more like border collies.

To guide yes, but if you called our ancestors sheep, they would have killed you. Like wise Satanism is not for the weak. Most of these waste of breath people will probably be dead come that time.

 

[Jack]

Good Shepherd

Bad Shepherd

 

[NinRick]

It’s like how a single rain drop won’t do you any harm. But a tidal wave, tsunami, floods, rain storms, etc, certainly can which is just many trillions of water drops all connected together in one massive body. Strength and power in numbers even if the individual numbers aren’t that strong alone.

Side note: I find it weird how we praise the sacred ram (which is a male sheep), but spit on the rest of the herd which would mean spitting on the ewes i.e. female sheep. Have to wonder if that’s a deliberate move by the enemy, to push more hate on females without people realising. Food for thought.

https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Goat.html


Also the magnum opus is being started when the Sun is in Aries.

 

[Jrvan]

It’s like how a single rain drop won’t do you any harm. But a tidal wave, tsunami, floods, rain storms, etc, certainly can which is just many trillions of water drops all connected together in one massive body. Strength and power in numbers even if the individual numbers aren’t that strong alone.

Side note: I find it weird how we praise the sacred ram (which is a male sheep), but spit on the rest of the herd which would mean spitting on the ewes i.e. female sheep. Have to wonder if that’s a deliberate move by the enemy, to push more hate on females without people realising. Food for thought.

A ram's horns are a symbol of the same thing that other horns and antlers are symbols of, like deer antlers. The ida and pingala nadis coming up through the crown chakra of someone with an open soul.

Yeah, but if all our ancestors cared about was the horns then that's all they would have used in depiction rather than the whole animal, right? Instead you have Gods depicted with Ram heads in Egypt like Khnum, you have the Ba of Osiris being a Ram God, there's the the Ram of Mendes, the Sun mantra Raum, the zodiac sign of Aries the Ram, etc... The essential qualities of the animal, the abilities, and whatnot. It's more than just the horns. There's a reason why the Gods chose certain animals with certain qualities to represent them.

 

[Jrvan]

I agree. It is true that we are not sheep, cows, chickens or pigs, but it is also true that we are not canids, cats, reptiles or fish. We are humans and therefore humanoids, the most advanced life forms in the universe.

We are superior to all the other animals in this world put together. But that approach is a symbolic and metaphorical thing. We attribute superior animals to ourselves instead of inferior ones because we are and want to be superior.

I think that's a sad mentality to have. I would like to refer you to this post: https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=195676#p195676

What exactly makes you think that farm animals like sheep are so inferior? Every animal is precious and has its own qualities and way of life. The way I see it, the main difference between what you consider inferior animals and superior animals is that one is wild and one is domestic. A lot of people think wildness is equivalent to being free, but that's not necessarily true. In a NS Pagan society, would you say that all the humans are not free just because they're not wild? Just because they civilized themselves? Being wild doesn't make you free. And if anyone thinks that being wild is so glamorous then they should try it sometime, far away from all the inventions and gifts of society. No farm animals, no electricity, no running water, no blacksmiths, nothing. Totally barebones survival.

Suddenly you might thank those "inferior" sheep for the wool they provide to people to keep them warm. Sheep have lived alongside humans since ancient times.

I honestly believe it is just a hangup in peoples' minds about the word "sheep." I don't think there would be this much resistance if I said "hey let's call the average folk in society RAMS. They're rams, see?" It's got to be just the word "sheep" that has negative baggage tied to it because of jews and xians.

People should learn about wolves and try living like them before they start glamorizing them for the sake of it, and calling themselves such. It's hard being a wolf.

Tell you all what. Go a few months without the God's gift of society, out in the wilderness. All alone, no tools. Show me the superiority of humans to animals. Be like a mighty wolverine with your lone survival skills. Then come back to civilization, and I'll happily call everyone of you who did it a wolf pack.

 

[Jrvan]

"Not a sheep, a wolf" This.

They will be Pagans. As things were for thousands of years. You have the Elite who advance and the rest of the world believe in eight legged horses and minotaur. But they connect to the Gods.

It's a simple fact that most people are looking for someone to guide them. That's normal, and there's nothing wrong with it. Most xians were raised in it from a young age, and once they become disenchanted with xianity, a lot of them naturally look for alternative answers to replace the filth that was previously occupying their mind. They are going to want someone to show them what the truth is. That's one of the reasons for the JoS here, I believe. It's bringing the light of Truth to gentiles.

At times we can be more like wolves with the aspects of wolves, when we need to be. And sometimes, when the role calls for us to play it, we can be more like border collies.

To guide yes, but if you called our ancestors sheep, they would have killed you. Like wise Satanism is not for the weak. Most of these waste of breath people will probably be dead come that time.

It sounds like you're saying I would go up to someone and call them a sheep in a derogatory manner. If anything I'd probably say something like "May you and your brothers shine brilliantly like Aries in the sky." And I'd probably be blessed in turn. People were more spiritual back then.

 

[Jrvan]

Good Shepherd

Bad Shepherd

You nailed it!

 

[tabby]

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I agree. It is true that we are not sheep, cows, chickens or pigs, but it is also true that we are not canids, cats, reptiles or fish. We are humans and therefore humanoids, the most advanced life forms in the universe.

We are superior to all the other animals in this world put together. But that approach is a symbolic and metaphorical thing. We attribute superior animals to ourselves instead of inferior ones because we are and want to be superior.

I said nothing of humans being superior to all other life forms. No animal is superior or inferior to another in the Animal Kingdom because few if any can fulfil the same exact roles and places within the different ecosystems.

Do we call an ant inferior because it’s small? Many do. You know what’s interesting? Ants can lift and carry objects that are anywhere between 10 and 40-50 times its weight (depending on the species). Scale that to human size and that ant is stronger than a human.

A squirrel can gain speeds of up to 20 mph. A cheetah up to 50-80 mph. Humans can gain up to 25 (maybe 30 if you’re lucky) mph. Are squirrels inferior to a cheetah just because they’re slower? No. Certainly not. Have you ever watched squirrels with their acrobatic ninja skills in the trees?

Are humans inferior to a squirrel because we just barely run at the same pace (and that’s if you’re super fit and trained)? No. But I bet you could’t catch a squirrel with your bare hands. No tools or weapons or tricks, just the good old digits.

A snake has no legs. Does that make it inferior or less capable than the animals that do? No.

Did you know a spider produces silk stronger than steel of the same diameter?

Animals can detect a storm approaching before a human can see it. They also have far better intuition than humans in the current age, and can even tell when you are upset or sick. Trained dogs can detect when a human is about to have a seizure before the symptoms even register to the human. How many animals have far superior eye sight, hearing, touch, and senses than humans do? The list is endless.

I can go on.

Now let’s talk about sheep for a moment. Did you know sheep have superior peripheral vision compared to humans? Did you know that despite their reputation, sheep are not actually dumb and stupid, but very intelligent animals? They can recognise and remember more members of their herd than a human can. Form emotional bonds and even form relationships with their herding dogs on farms. Dogs and sheep work very well together. A sheep can find its way out of a maze and helps its herd to lead them out.

Every living creature on this Earth of Mother and Father all have they’re strengths including humans. We all also have weaknesses. Sheep can produce wool and keep themselves warm, but humans don’t so we work with the sheep to produce clothes. Funny how we spit on such creatures. I think it’s high time to redefine what constitutes an “inferior” or “superior” animal.

 

[Jrvan]

Calling our peoples cattle or sheep is derogatory and offensive in my opinion.

Jows call themselves gods but in reality they are slaves fighting for slavery.

It is our free peoples fighting for freedom that are true gods.

Animal metaphors are just that - metaphors. They are used to more easily talk about certain things and quickly impart meaning, and add color to the pictured understanding in peoples' minds. What I'm attempting to do is reclaim the metaphor and change the negative charge that it has to instead a positive meaning. Triggering people is part of that process.

If we hate the "sheep" then how can we ever love them and help them? How will we ever have the patience to guide them when they try to come here to learn from us? Confronting the bitterness in our hearts, I believe, is an important step forward.

Of course we dislike stupid people. Father dislikes stupidity. But we have to go through it to get to the other side where people aren't stupid anymore, and everything is brighter. We just have to do it. We must guide those who are willing to learn, even if they don't become full SS. Getting them away from xianity at the very least is imperative.

I'm not advocating too much tolerance, and especially not turning the other cheek. If someone bites us then of course do as you will.

My main point is that most people are not bad or stupid - They're just led by bad and stupid people right now, and that's not their fault. And also if you interacted with some actual sheep outside the metaphor, like on a ranch, I think you would fall in love with them. They're wonderful animals, and I don't think they should be looked down on and ridiculed so harshly.
A jewish shepherd leads them off a cliff, but a Satanic shepherd leads them to fruitfulness and prosperity.

In my opinion, the term shepherd is not appropriate to identify a spiritual or other leader. Shepherding is not about any leadership in a race or species but it is about the breeding and exploitation of other life forms.

I am not offending or despising animals inferior to us, such as livestock, pets and animals in the wild. It is about the current situation and condition of humanity being slaves and cattle of the enemy, which is obviously an unacceptable and intolerable thing.

Right, it depends on the leader/shepherd like I said. Under jews, they're just disposable cattle slaves that are treated like shit. And when guided by us, we turn their lives to gold. We improve their lives, keep them safe, happy, healthy, and prospering. They live long, good, excellent lives. Under us, they are not slaves.

If you have a problem with the words sheep and shepherd, then use another one. But the ancients must have used the metaphor because the xians got it from somewhere - they didn't make that up on their own. People are still going to use those metaphors in the future because it works, and because society is largely based in agriculture. Even the Pharaohs and Egyptian Gods like Osiris were depicted with farming tools. The Pharaoh was said to cultivate the land, and the farm tool symbols tied them to the land and agriculture.

Even the Scarab beetle was used as a symbol for agriculture. Fertilizer like manure makes the crops grow, and the manure comes from food that's been eaten (food from crops grown with manure). So it's an infinite cycle. The crops grow and are harvested in that cycle day by day just as the sun rises eternally day by day. The Scarab pushes the sun into the new day, just as it rolls the dung forward into new life.

 

[tabby]

It’s like how a single rain drop won’t do you any harm. But a tidal wave, tsunami, floods, rain storms, etc, certainly can which is just many trillions of water drops all connected together in one massive body. Strength and power in numbers even if the individual numbers aren’t that strong alone.

Side note: I find it weird how we praise the sacred ram (which is a male sheep), but spit on the rest of the herd which would mean spitting on the ewes i.e. female sheep. Have to wonder if that’s a deliberate move by the enemy, to push more hate on females without people realising. Food for thought.

https://www.joyofsatan.org/www.angelfire.com/empire/serpentis666/Goat.html


Also the magnum opus is being started when the Sun is in Aries.

A ram's horns are a symbol of the same thing that other horns and antlers are symbols of, like deer antlers. The ida and pingala nadis coming up through the crown chakra of someone with an open soul.

You’re missing the point here. Let’s replace “ram and sheep” with stag and doe, since we make the distinction between the males and females purely on “who has the horns”.

If it was just about the horns then we would have no issues with sheep, because some species have horns for both the males and females. Some have neither. Some have just the males.

But it’s not, clearly. Otherwise there wouldn’t be a distinction. A ram is a male sheep, and we praise this animal. A stag is a male deer. Yet we spit on sheep specifically, not the rams, just the other sheep. But we don’t spit on the rest of the deer herd. Actually, we don’t spit on deer at all. Why? It’s a herd animal. A horn/antler baring species.

What about goats? Another horn baring species. Also a herd animal.

Horses? They don’t have horns, but they’re a herd animal. Often working right along side humans, just like sheep do. Don’t see anyone picking on horses though.

Recognise the pattern? Why we hate sheep actually has nothing to do with horns/lack-there-of or herds or “blindly following the leader”. It’s simply the association to “weakness” and xtards that has us spit on sheep, which is funny because sheep as an animal are not actually weak.

However, because we make the clear distinction of sheep and rams, this means we are actively spitting on the female sheep because again (and I emphasise) RAMS ARE MALE SHEEP. See what’s going on here?

The harder and more definitive we make the distinction between rams and sheep, the more hate is pushed in a very wrong direction.

“Praise the Ram! The glorious fierce Ram!”

“Oh but fuck sheep! Who would want to be a sheep?!”

RAM. IS. A. SHEEP.
A. MALE. SHEEP.

 

[Jrvan]

Build on a wolfs den, then you can desecrate and obliterate. Smart.

Say WUUUUT?

 

[Jrvan]

I just realized that the natural relationship between humans and sheep is actually not master and slave. It's actually a symbiotic relationship. The humans are literally dependent on the sheep for their survival, just as the sheep depend on the humans.

The main winter material for warm clothing is wool. If everyone wants sheep to stop existing, and hates sheep and thinks they're so lowly and inferior, then try living without wool.

Like I have already said... it's only jews that make the relationship with the sheep one of slavery because jews are parasites. You can either have a symbiotic relationship with sheep like a good shepherd, or you can have a parasitical relationship with sheep like a baaaaaaad jewish shepherd.

 

[Sunny]

I agree. It is true that we are not sheep, cows, chickens or pigs, but it is also true that we are not canids, cats, reptiles or fish. We are humans and therefore humanoids, the most advanced life forms in the universe.

We are superior to all the other animals in this world put together. But that approach is a symbolic and metaphorical thing. We attribute superior animals to ourselves instead of inferior ones because we are and want to be superior.

I think that's a sad mentality to have. I would like to refer you to this post: https://ancient-forums.com/viewtopic.php?p=195676#p195676

What exactly makes you think that farm animals like sheep are so inferior? Every animal is precious and has its own qualities and way of life. The way I see it, the main difference between what you consider inferior animals and superior animals is that one is wild and one is domestic. A lot of people think wildness is equivalent to being free, but that's not necessarily true. In a NS Pagan society, would you say that all the humans are not free just because they're not wild? Just because they civilized themselves? Being wild doesn't make you free. And if anyone thinks that being wild is so glamorous then they should try it sometime, far away from all the inventions and gifts of society. No farm animals, no electricity, no running water, no blacksmiths, nothing. Totally barebones survival.

Suddenly you might thank those "inferior" sheep for the wool they provide to people to keep them warm. Sheep have lived alongside humans since ancient times.

I honestly believe it is just a hangup in peoples' minds about the word "sheep." I don't think there would be this much resistance if I said "hey let's call the average folk in society RAMS. They're rams, see?" It's got to be just the word "sheep" that has negative baggage tied to it because of jews and xians.

People should learn about wolves and try living like them before they start glamorizing them for the sake of it, and calling themselves such. It's hard being a wolf.

Tell you all what. Go a few months without the God's gift of society, out in the wilderness. All alone, no tools. Show me the superiority of humans to animals. Be like a mighty wolverine with your lone survival skills. Then come back to civilization, and I'll happily call everyone of you who did it a wolf pack.

By lower and higher animals, I meant the food chain and the level of development and advancement of life forms.

The cat for example, whether domestic or wild, is still the same and superior as the mouse.

Of course we do not live alone but together with many other life forms: animals, plants, microbes and others. What I mean is that there are superior and inferior, stronger and weaker, more advanced and less advanced.

 

[Blackdragon666]

Sheep get a really bad reputation, but what we need to realize is that all those xian sheep are greatly feared by the enemy. As much as it might be hard to admit, they have also posed a great problem to Satanists on Earth - otherwise they wouldn't be bitched about so often. I don't mean to poke, but it's just a fact that as mighty and powerful as we may be, xians are an obstacle to our goals, and have historically been an obstacle. We can debate the reasons why that is, and I'm sure many of us could come up with some good ones and even get to the bottom of it, but at the end of the day they are still a problem for us.

What I want to convey is that the power of the sheep is actually very great. No matter how much both sides look down on them, shame them, use them in metaphors, etc... they are still an obstacle to both our side and the enemy at times. Every one seems to hate on the sheep. Here's the thing though: even on low spiritual power mode due to the enemy, they still created such a formidable amount of energy and power for the jewish curses, thoughtforms, and whatnot. That bible spellbook on its own has no charge. Just think that a spiritually low class of people generated that much power over time, on the lowest power setting. Now imagine what they could do if they were all spiritually empowered.

Sheep aren't such awful, lowly creatures like people think. Their power is in the herd, and it's not bad to be part of a herd, nor does it necessarily mean that one cannot think for themselves (or that one is necessarily weak on their own). Whether low power or high power, they are still strong and mighty together. Their power is in unity. And the most important part is that their direction all depends on the shepherd. The sacred sheep herder. The power of the sheep can either be harnessed by a wise, spiritual Pharaoh... or it can be harnessed by jews. The jews murdered our ancestors and stole the mantle of the sacred shepherd role. They have been guiding the sheep off the cliffs ever since.

When they are guided by the good, Satanic King and Shepherd, they are empowered all together, and their power is unimaginable. If they were guided to all of the destruction caused over the many ages, then imagine what they can do in a spiritual society with a spiritual king guiding them. It really all depends on who is the shepherd.

Jews really are the worst shepherds of all time. None of the sheep trust them anymore, and few are willing to follow them anymore. This pisses them off, and I'm glad. All the jews want to do is eat the sheep, whereas all we want is for the sheep to be happy, healthy, and spiritual. We want our people safe and enlightened.

My point is that there is nothing wrong with sheep - only the shepherd. It's high time for the good sheep to have a good shepherd again.

Thanks for reading.

The ultimate goal is for humanity to collectively be elevated from sheep status. That each one can advance to the maximum potential.

 

[Jrvan]

The ultimate goal is for humanity to collectively be elevated from sheep status. That each one can advance to the maximum potential.

Exactly! You get it. Just like a child trusts their parents for guidance until they have grown and learned enough to survive on their own.

My idea is the same with sheep as it is with dogs. A dog follows whoever feeds it. A bad person can feed a dog, and the dog will be loyal and defend the human. The dog is dependent on the human for its survival, and the human depends on the dog for certain things too. It's symbiosis just as with sheep. A dog owner can either be a bad person, or a good person. And they can unleash their dogs on good people, like us.

Just like a shepherd can either guide their flock to prosperity, or destruction. It depends on who the shepherd is, guiding the flock. It depends on who the dog owner is, commanding their dog.

But we don't hate dogs, and we don't think they're stupid. Jews do, but we're not jews, and we don't think dogs are stupid or bad. And we shouldn't think sheep are stupid and bad either.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

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There is no sexist conspiracy theory like you seem to think there is. Sheep are not disliked for being female. And they are not disliked only for being a herding animal, where you can say "look at those other herd animals. Why do you not dislike them?"

The reason sheep are used as a comparison is due to both their behaviour and their intelligence. Not only do they live in herds (like many animals do), but sheep are also just plain retarded. They have zero ability to think or act on their own. If there is another sheep nearby they must copy whatever that one is doing. You listed some other animals that sometimes live in herds, but every one you listed are perfectly smart and capable enough to react to any situation.

There is literally not a single thought going through the sheep's head other than "There is another sheep, so I have to follow them."
With no thought of any other thing that is happening.
That is why it is actually extremely common to have things like this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Hq4uNFL0qQ
The sheep just keep running in a circle and keep staying in the exact same place because they have zero awareness on actually running away from the "threat" and are aware only of trying to follow the other sheep.

You take any other species of animal that lives often in herds, and I will bet you some money that they are much smarter and much more able to deal with a situation than a sheep is.

 

[Sunny]

Animal metaphors are just that - metaphors. They are used to more easily talk about certain things and quickly impart meaning, and add color to the pictured understanding in peoples' minds. What I'm attempting to do is reclaim the metaphor and change the negative charge that it has to instead a positive meaning. Triggering people is part of that process.

If we hate the "sheep" then how can we ever love them and help them? How will we ever have the patience to guide them when they try to come here to learn from us? Confronting the bitterness in our hearts, I believe, is an important step forward.

Of course we dislike stupid people. Father dislikes stupidity. But we have to go through it to get to the other side where people aren't stupid anymore, and everything is brighter. We just have to do it. We must guide those who are willing to learn, even if they don't become full SS. Getting them away from xianity at the very least is imperative.

I'm not advocating too much tolerance, and especially not turning the other cheek. If someone bites us then of course do as you will.

My main point is that most people are not bad or stupid - They're just led by bad and stupid people right now, and that's not their fault. And also if you interacted with some actual sheep outside the metaphor, like on a ranch, I think you would fall in love with them. They're wonderful animals, and I don't think they should be looked down on and ridiculed so harshly.
A jewish shepherd leads them off a cliff, but a Satanic shepherd leads them to fruitfulness and prosperity.

In my opinion, the term shepherd is not appropriate to identify a spiritual or other leader. Shepherding is not about any leadership in a race or species but it is about the breeding and exploitation of other life forms.

I am not offending or despising animals inferior to us, such as livestock, pets and animals in the wild. It is about the current situation and condition of humanity being slaves and cattle of the enemy, which is obviously an unacceptable and intolerable thing.

Right, it depends on the leader/shepherd like I said. Under jews, they're just disposable cattle slaves that are treated like shit. And when guided by us, we turn their lives to gold. We improve their lives, keep them safe, happy, healthy, and prospering. They live long, good, excellent lives. Under us, they are not slaves.

If you have a problem with the words sheep and shepherd, then use another one. But the ancients must have used the metaphor because the xians got it from somewhere - they didn't make that up on their own. People are still going to use those metaphors in the future because it works, and because society is largely based in agriculture. Even the Pharaohs and Egyptian Gods like Osiris were depicted with farming tools. The Pharaoh was said to cultivate the land, and the farm tool symbols tied them to the land and agriculture.

Even the Scarab beetle was used as a symbol for agriculture. Fertilizer like manure makes the crops grow, and the manure comes from food that's been eaten (food from crops grown with manure). So it's an infinite cycle. The crops grow and are harvested in that cycle day by day just as the sun rises eternally day by day. The Scarab pushes the sun into the new day, just as it rolls the dung forward into new life.

Pastor is a term used in Christian churches, especially evangelical and reformed churches - some officially, others only occasionally - to refer to a minister of worship or in any case (in varying degrees) to someone who is responsible for the spiritual leadership of the Christian community. It derives from the Latin pastōr (shepherd of sheep).

The use of the term shepherd comes from the Bible. The Hebrew Bible (or Old Testament) uses terms derived from the root רעה (ra'ah), which occurs 173 times in the sense of "shepherding the flock", e.g. in Genesis 29:7 ("water the sheep and lead them to pasture"). The participle רועה (ro'eh) is used in reference to human beings, as, e.g., in Jeremiah 3:15: "I will give you shepherds after my own heart, who will shepherd you with knowledge and understanding".

God himself is called the "Shepherd of Israel" and Israel "the flock of the Lord" (Genesis 49:24; Psalm 23; 80:1; Jeremiah 31:10; Ezekiel 34:11-21). The term shepherd is also applied to kings and leaders of the people.

In the New Testament the Greek word ποιμην (poimēn) is used and is normally translated "shepherd". This word is used 18 times.  Jesus is also called "good shepherd" in John 10:11 "I am the good shepherd; the good shepherd lays down his life for the sheep".

The elders or bishops are commissioned to "shepherd the flock" (the Church) in the name and on behalf of the one and only true Shepherd, Jesus Christ (John 21:25ff; Acts 20:28; 1 Peter 5:2).

In New Testament times the individual Christian churches were not led by a pastor but by a College of Elders (presbyteros) (1 Timothy 4:14) also called bishops (literally "overseers"). For example, in Acts 20:7 Paul summons the "elders" of the church in Ephesus to give them instructions before his departure: "From Miletus he sent to Ephesus to call the elders of the church". During this discourse, in Acts 20:28 he tells them, "Take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, in whose midst the Holy Spirit has made you bishops, to shepherd the church of God, which he purchased with his own blood." So the terms "Elders" and "Bishops" designate the same persons.  Peter himself claims to be an "Elder" in 1 Peter 5:1,2 he writes: "I exhort therefore the elders that are among you, I who am an elder with them and a witness of the sufferings of Christ, and who shall also be a partaker of the glory that is to be revealed: feed the flock of God that is among you, watching over it, not out of compulsion, but willingly according to God; not for vile gain, but with a good heart.

Paul also describes in 1 Timothy 3:1-7 what the characteristics of those who serve as "bishops" should be. In Titus 1:5-9 the same list is used for the elders, who are also referred to in 1:7 as bishops.

I do not have a problem with the words sheep and shepherd, but the word shepherd means to lead and graze sheep or other livestock. Obviously, I have nothing against cattle but I respect and appreciate them as well as other forms of life and nature.

More than likely, the jews copied and stole this term from peoples and cultures older and more ancient than themselves.

Most probably, the ancients also used this term for people with the meaning of guide but then the jews corrupted that too, calling us cattle as well.

However, I think the word shepherd is retarded and obsolete to represent the meaning of leadership. The word shepherd can be used for what it is and not for what it is not or as a universal term as the word leadership is.

Of course, you are right about the cycle of life. Life continues if the cycle continues, if the cycle ends life ends too.

I was thinking the same thing about resource management. The current recycling of waste is not very advanced. Instead of trying to make plastic from plastic waste, it would be more advanced to extract the chemical elements that make up plastic waste, and then create new plastic or whatever.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

The entire idea of comparing people to sheep due to a behaviour of only being a follower, and having absolutely zero thought in their own head other than following the person in front of them, I do not think you will find a better or more accurate thing than a sheep to use in this comparison. If a ram participated in the same behaviour as the sheep, he would be included in the comparison. But it is not anybody's fault that the ram is intelligent and independent. If this honestly bothers you that the male animal is smarter, more independent, and more capable, then maybe you should go to school to study Animal Gender Studies to teach all the animals that they are evil for having their "toxic masculinity" which helps to pull them up above the level of a sheep. Or maybe you could teach this class if nobody is already teaching it.

And I did not wish to say this at first, but this same absolutely mindless behaviour of being only a follower and totally refusing to think through any situation by their own logic to see what would actually make sense to them logically, I would say that 98% of all the people I have ever met like this have been liberal democrat women. I have directly seen this many times in my own life. There are some liberal democrat males with the same behaviour, but they seem to have a little bit more tendency to be open minded enough to logically think through some kinds of things, instead of only believing exactly what they are told and nothing else.

Really these people are emotionally manipulated into one single premade conclusion, are consuming propaganda promoting this conclusion constantly every day in a way that is extremely charged with negative emotion. Then once this emotion is placed within them, their mind's only effort is to constantly try to defend this emotion and try to make excuses for it and absolutely refuses any additional true information that may not align with this emotion. They so strongly refuse any information that goes against this emotion that it is like they are possessed from the deepest layer of their soul. Please remember I am not talking about everybody, if you know somebody who partially fits this description but maybe idn't as bad. But I am talking directly from years of experience with multiple different female family members who all have this absolutely soul-less and mindless reaction that I have described.

When another way of reasoning would be to not start with any conclusion, not start with any emotion. Start by gathering and learning many different facts and points of information from many different perspectives. Use logic and reasoning to see which of these facts fit together, how they fit together, and what the strongest supported conclusion would actually be. Which the most likely true conclusion here is often not being directly told by anybody because they all want to spin it certain ways.

And nearly all people who do not describe themselves as strong leftists seem very often to have this second way of thinking that I just described. A more self-dependent type of mindset where they actually want to think though a situation logically in their own head, use their own judgement and reasoning, and come up with a conclusion that makes the most sense to them, while not exactly matching any pre-made conclusion told to them by anybody. Often taking some aspects of multiple different points of view and mixing them together in the way that makes most sense to them, instead of fanatically following only one single source and refusing to question anything.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

And I want to be clear that when I said in my last comment about the male animal being much smarter and more independent, I was talking specifically about rams and sheep. Obviously different animals act in different ways. Some the males are smarter, and some the females are smarter, depending on the specific species and their habits and instincts.

 

[Ol argedco luciftias]

Yeah, but if all our ancestors cared about was the horns then that's all they would have used in depiction rather than the whole animal, right? Instead you have Gods depicted with Ram heads in Egypt like Khnum, you have the Ba of Osiris being a Ram God, there's the the Ram of Mendes, the Sun mantra Raum, the zodiac sign of Aries the Ram, etc... The essential qualities of the animal, the abilities, and whatnot. It's more than just the horns. There's a reason why the Gods chose certain animals with certain qualities to represent them.

A ram is also extremely independent, extremely strong, and is climbing to the highest points that nobody other than birds are able to ever get to. All of these qualities are part of why they have always been such a respected symbol.