Why did not these two brothers become JG when they are actually very much advanced than many others .ps : this question is not meant to demean current JG

Question #3473: Question to ol orgedo luciftias and henu the great
Simply because it doesn't.
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... εἰ δὲ νοεῖς, ἔστιν, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ϰαὶ σωμάτων ἀσώματα. — Ποῖα; ἔφη ὁ βασιλεύς. — Τὰ ἐν τοῖς ἐσόπτροις φαινόμενα σώματα οὐ δοϰεῖ σοι ἀσώματα εἶναι; — Οὕτως ἔχει, ὦ Τάτ· ϑείως νοεῖς, ὁ βασιλεὺς εἶπεν. — Ἔστι δὲ ϰαὶ ἀσώματα ἄλλα, οἷον αἱ ἰδέαι οὐ δοϰοῦσιν εἶναί σοι, ἀσώματοι οὖσαι, ἐν σώματι φαινόμεναι, οὐ μόνον τῶν ἐμψύχων ἀλλὰ ϰαὶ τῶν ἀψύχων; — Εὖ λέγεις, ὦ Τάτ. — Οὕτως ἀνταναϰλάσεις εἰσὶ τῶν ἀσωμάτων πρὸς τὰ σώματα, ϰαὶ τῶν σωμάτων πρὸς τὰ ἀσώματα, τουτέστι τοῦ αἰσϑητοῦ πρὸς τὸν νοητὸν ϰόσμον ϰαὶ τοῦ νοητοῦ πρὸς τὸν αἰσϑητόν· διὸ προσϰύνει τὰ ἀγάλματα, ὦ βασιλεῦ, ὡς ϰαὶ αὐτὰ ἰδέας ἔχοντα ἀπὸ τοῦ νοητοῦ ϰόσμου. ὁ οὖν βασιλεὺς ἐξαναστὰς ἔφη, Ὥρα ἐστίν, ὦ προφήτα, περὶ τὴν τῶν ξένων ἐπιμέλειαν γενέσϑαι· τῇ δὲ ἐπιούσῃ περὶ τῶν ἑξης ϑεολογήσομεν.
Simply because it doesn't.
It is only by the will of the Gods that one can join the ToZ Clergy.
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Ὦ Ἑρμῆ Τρισμέγιστε, Μέγιστε Μέγιστε Μέγιστε
It is only by the will of the Gods that one can join the ToZ Clergy.
Being JG isn't just about being advanced. And answering questions doesn't mean one is spiritually advanced. People were trying to "nominate" another member when JG first became a title, yet that person still had very obvious xianity in his soul and had even publicly gone against the ToZ in the past. My point is, the masses don't know the soul of a person.
Ol Argedco and Henu are valuable members here.
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Being JG isn't just about being advanced. And answering questions doesn't mean one is spiritually advanced. People were trying to "nominate" another member when JG first became a title, yet that person still had very obvious xianity in his soul and had even publicly gone against the ToZ in the past. My point is, the masses don't know the soul of a person.
Ol Argedco and Henu are valuable members here.
Lydia" post_id=478533 time=1703141915 user_id=57]
Being JG isn't just about being advanced. And answering questions doesn't mean one is spiritually advanced. People were trying to "nominate" another member when JG first became a title, yet that person still had very obvious xianity in his soul and had even publicly gone against the ToZ in the past. My point is, the masses don't know the soul of a person.Ol Argedco and Henu are valuable members here.
What I've realized about becoming a ToZ clergy, is that in addition to whatever stresses that life piles, one also had to dedicate much time to maintaining the forums, moderating, maintaining websites, translating, calendar-work and etc., without pay I can imagine, very daunting (even though in a Satanic world, clergy would be getting paid and granted gov't positions and etc.). Even as just a regular man coming to Satan, I already find it daunting to write posts whilst dealing with all the obligations of life.
Given to this, I could post 1,000+ fascinating articles on Asian PAganism, or answering questions, which....I have no doubt gives valuable info, but at this stage, I could never see myself becoming a clergyman. That's just me being humble and realistic.
Also, what was the deal with Mageson? I often see him mentioned alot (in a rather negative light), was he an infiltrator, or a traitor?
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Oriental American Temple Member, lover of Oriental paganism and the Oriental race.
Father Zeus in Asiatic civilizations:
China: Jade Emperor (玉皇), Huangdi (黃帝), Shangdi (上帝), Shìtí Huányīn (釋提桓因)
Japan: Raijin (雷神), Taishakuten (帝釈天), Izanagi no-Mikoto (伊邪那岐命)
Korea: Hawneunim (하느님), Jeseokcheon (제석천), Okhwang Sangje (옥황상제/玉皇上帝)
Vietnam: Thích Đề Hoàn Nhân (釋提桓因)
Philippines: Batala Maykapal, Sakla
Indonesia/Malaysia: Batara Indra
Maxis Orientis is my old account.
Lydia" post_id=478533 time=1703141915 user_id=57]
Being JG isn't just about being advanced. And answering questions doesn't mean one is spiritually advanced. People were trying to "nominate" another member when JG first became a title, yet that person still had very obvious xianity in his soul and had even publicly gone against the ToZ in the past. My point is, the masses don't know the soul of a person.Ol Argedco and Henu are valuable members here.
What I've realized about becoming a ToZ clergy, is that in addition to whatever stresses that life piles, one also had to dedicate much time to maintaining the forums, moderating, maintaining websites, translating, calendar-work and etc., without pay I can imagine, very daunting (even though in a Satanic world, clergy would be getting paid and granted gov't positions and etc.). Even as just a regular man coming to Satan, I already find it daunting to write posts whilst dealing with all the obligations of life.
Given to this, I could post 1,000+ fascinating articles on Asian PAganism, or answering questions, which....I have no doubt gives valuable info, but at this stage, I could never see myself becoming a clergyman. That's just me being humble and realistic.
Also, what was the deal with Mageson? I often see him mentioned alot (in a rather negative light), was he an infiltrator, or a traitor?
I can't and I won't speak for the other member, but in my case, the time is not yet.
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I can't and I won't speak for the other member, but in my case, the time is not yet.
