Goldenwings
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The day i found out JoS i was already athiest but believing in an all powerful God, but as i said in some posts in my whole life many times i felt presence around me, and 2-3 times i kind of saw some entity with my eyes, i am not sure what that it and what and why i saw it
I had always fear related to any entity that i cant see , when i became athiest , at first i didnt believe that an entity exist that we cant see, but the feeling of presence came multiple times which made me believe that entities exist that we cant see
This made me fear them, since i literally many times felt their presence, this caused me to have a huge negative charge related to JoS and ToZ, and i was reading the website while feeling fear and trying to neglect it but it seemed that it comes deeply from me, even if on the surface i supress it ,i feel it beneath
After few days now the fear is successfuly gone, i no longer feel any negative charge related to the teachings here , what confirmed it is the nightmare i just got now, the dream was long and i did not remember it, i did remember only the main part
A man or figure was with me in the room and there was an entity too( she was female), the man didnt talk didnt do anything he was just silence like a sculpture , the room was dark, i saw two masks ( they were whitish in the dark) the entity asked me
Where is the man? I looked at the left one, immediatly it changed and she told me: you are wrong thats me, i immediatly looked at the other mask ( i supposed thats the man ofc since the other face is the entity) and she told me you are wrong im here too i kind of freaked out and looked away i didnt manage to see it in the face( it was a mask and the mask change a bit in expression when she says its me ) then i just looked in front of me in the dark
Then i saw like a shadow in front of me in the dark and i grabed her and she run out of my room while i was grabing her hand and i saw her back since outside of my room i had light on ( even in real life i do that, i let a light on outside of my room) i saw her from the back she was shorter than me had long black straight hair then i woke up
When i woke up i discovered i have 0 fear , in opposite i immediatly realised she was just playing with me in the dream and never intended to harm me , so all the paranoi in the dream was in me, the scene was rather playful, also in my subconscious i had the idea that in dreams if you dream of an entity and see her she will look ugly and scary, and this is first time in my life i see an entity as clear as this
And this time i felt she seemed to be beautiful she felt innocent and feminine and i liked how her long black hair was moving while she running
I am not saying the entity in the dream was real , i am just saying after i got rid of the fear related to demons ( i am not saying what i saw in dream was a demon) this was like an another confirmation that the negative charge towards demons was only in me , and from their point of view they are on my side
I posted this so that anyone here being in that phase where he feels the negative charge towards demons that was programed in him by religion, just keep going , it fades quickly with time, i have just woke up fr the dream 15-20 min ago, and i feel bliss and calm instead of fearful, in opposite of what i would have felt before , in addition i started even questioning why i became fearful in the dream, it was all in me.
I wonder in ToZ terms what are the entities that we see in dreams, i didnt come across the section talking about this yet
I had always fear related to any entity that i cant see , when i became athiest , at first i didnt believe that an entity exist that we cant see, but the feeling of presence came multiple times which made me believe that entities exist that we cant see
This made me fear them, since i literally many times felt their presence, this caused me to have a huge negative charge related to JoS and ToZ, and i was reading the website while feeling fear and trying to neglect it but it seemed that it comes deeply from me, even if on the surface i supress it ,i feel it beneath
After few days now the fear is successfuly gone, i no longer feel any negative charge related to the teachings here , what confirmed it is the nightmare i just got now, the dream was long and i did not remember it, i did remember only the main part
A man or figure was with me in the room and there was an entity too( she was female), the man didnt talk didnt do anything he was just silence like a sculpture , the room was dark, i saw two masks ( they were whitish in the dark) the entity asked me
Where is the man? I looked at the left one, immediatly it changed and she told me: you are wrong thats me, i immediatly looked at the other mask ( i supposed thats the man ofc since the other face is the entity) and she told me you are wrong im here too i kind of freaked out and looked away i didnt manage to see it in the face( it was a mask and the mask change a bit in expression when she says its me ) then i just looked in front of me in the dark
Then i saw like a shadow in front of me in the dark and i grabed her and she run out of my room while i was grabing her hand and i saw her back since outside of my room i had light on ( even in real life i do that, i let a light on outside of my room) i saw her from the back she was shorter than me had long black straight hair then i woke up
When i woke up i discovered i have 0 fear , in opposite i immediatly realised she was just playing with me in the dream and never intended to harm me , so all the paranoi in the dream was in me, the scene was rather playful, also in my subconscious i had the idea that in dreams if you dream of an entity and see her she will look ugly and scary, and this is first time in my life i see an entity as clear as this
And this time i felt she seemed to be beautiful she felt innocent and feminine and i liked how her long black hair was moving while she running
I am not saying the entity in the dream was real , i am just saying after i got rid of the fear related to demons ( i am not saying what i saw in dream was a demon) this was like an another confirmation that the negative charge towards demons was only in me , and from their point of view they are on my side
I posted this so that anyone here being in that phase where he feels the negative charge towards demons that was programed in him by religion, just keep going , it fades quickly with time, i have just woke up fr the dream 15-20 min ago, and i feel bliss and calm instead of fearful, in opposite of what i would have felt before , in addition i started even questioning why i became fearful in the dream, it was all in me.
I wonder in ToZ terms what are the entities that we see in dreams, i didnt come across the section talking about this yet