I have an important question about meditation and the soul: what are the effects of alcohol on the soul

By the stories of my family, when my grandma wasn't drinking, she loved to look after the house and take care of my brothers. She would spoil them with her cooking, and be happy for staying with the family. But since she was into alcohol, those wonderful moments only lasted for a few time. She suddenly had to leave, go back to her "place" because she was missing it, and only returned after a couple of months. Many times they had to rescue her. Once she was arrested for stealing a soap at a market, another time she broke her leg and the doctor said that she wouldn't walk anymore. As she insisting trying, she managed to keep walking, but the trouble didn't stop there. My father used to earn gifts from the company that he worked, some small bottles of whisky and stuff. Of course, she drank them all hidden and he got upset with her. Without the alcohol she was one person, with the drinks she was another.

I didn't get to know her better, but my mother said that she loved to stay close to me. She got really worried and desperate when I first started walking, I had just been through surgery and was with cast on both feet (I was born with congenital clubfoot). Her fear was that I could fall (that didn't happen). When we decided to move into another country, she almost went with us, but something made her stay. She made the decision to continue her old life, and for many years my mother stood thinking if she would have lived better if she went with us. My grandma was the black sheep of her family, often mistreated and looked down because of her choices. I can't blame them either. Her daughters weren't raised by her, and she got nowhere in life. At the end, her health got worse, lungs got bad (she was also a smoker) and, she stayed with my aunt that used to drug her with debilitating meds in order to keep her "quiet".

I usually bring these stories because, just how much things would have been different if certain choices were made or not. It is pretty obvious that Neptune themes runs wild in mother's side, my grandma got into drinking, but her other sisters were kinda like mediums, owners of a "religious temple". I don't know if they were really gifted though. Sadly, my brother still continues with the weed and cigarettes. It is hard to convince someone that you love to stop hurting themselves. These harmful stuff not only keeps people from growing and advancing, but also makes them step back by harming the body, soul, and mind.

In my opinion alchohol is an escape. It helps one get away from the problems they are facing. Thankfully we have meditation which counter acts this. We can connect to the source of all reality, thus we do not desire artificial means. With all habits and addictions it must be understood these take time.

If someone tries to become perfect tomorrow they will surely fail. Slowly weaning things down is the best approach. As one meditates and heals their soul the desire will lessen. Remember your best is better than your worst. So if you go from drinking everyday in large quantity and then become a cocktail or two drinker on the weekend. This is a huge victory.

Likewise if you smoke two packs a day, and now you smoke half a pack or one or two, you are succeeding. Give yourself time, in 1-3 years I want to be like xyz. Working out is similar, it takes years to build muscle. Be kind to yourself and work towards improvement, not perfection. Overtime you can get to where you have no desire for harmful activities, but it will be years of consistent work and be effortless for you.

Good luck to you. I know you can do it. A miles journey begins with your first step.

I don't know about soul but obviously alcohol drives your mind into more depressive way. Although this may provide short-term relaxation, it ultimately leads to depression and lack of willpower. Even tobacco is many times safer for the mind.

The soul will get damaged before one sees any effect in the physical body, since the two are closely "connected" and the "higher existence" (soul etc.) precedes the physical one. When we do spiritual workings to attract something, what we do is accumulating energy and programming it in the astral (i,e. a higher dimension) and when enough has been accumulated and programmed then it will manifest physically. The same goes on the other side as well, when one is damaging their body with harmful substances, the soul with degrade and diseases will manifest. Obviously alcohol is not harmful if consumed moderately (as in, is not harmful enough to cause issues but it is still harmful in essence, the body doesn't need alcohols to develop) however this "moderation" generally means very small amounts, it depends on the beverage as well. Also empowering the soul in that circumstance is also going to either empower the disease itself, or leading one to stop drinking. A soul cannot perfect itself when it is being degenerated by harmful substances. I don't think anyone can seriously advance and become very elevated spiritually whilst also smoking or drinking or engulfing or consuming in excess anything that is not healthy for the body.

High Priestess Lydia's very recent sermon also gives a very good understanding of how the physical and the spiritual are connected and how they influence each other.
https://ancient-forums.com/threads/chakras-more-information.307136/

After 10 years + off meditation. Alcohol feels not good anymore. I don´t get drunk side effects anymore (dizzy/funny/etc), after a certain amount off alcohol I just loose my memory, but I don´t have a good alcohol intoxication. Alkohol feels like drinking juice/5% effect from how it used to be. I rather get my high from meditation. Some have astroligical preposition that worsen with drinking alcohol/drugs etc.

I could not drink alcohol or do crazy night out but after a painful experience I started drinking. Truth is I need more alcohol than most people to get drunk and it doesn't last that much in the system

So the real truth is you are an alcoholic and you are already highly damaged.

This may be true, but it does not provide the person any advice for improvement, some people have a faster metabolism body. Well here is the help:

Kudzu Vine, it does stop the absorbtion off alcohol, if taken over a longer time it, it makes you detest alcohol. https://fitrecovery.com/kudzu-for-alcoholism/

"as a sole herb to prevent alcohol consumption is that it also interferes with digestion.

Stomach cramps and digestive insufficiency occurs with prolonged use."

I could not drink alcohol or do crazy night out but after a painful experience I started drinking. Truth is I need more alcohol than most people to get drunk and it doesn't last that much in the system

Belive me I know pain, but you have to overcome it, use your pain in a healthy way do art or something else, start jogging, then you can feel balance. If you want you can tell what happend and we can find a spititual/ solution for it.

For help with alcohol addiction:

Kudzu Vine, it does stop the absorbtion off alcohol, if taken over a longer time it, it makes you detest alcohol. https://fitrecovery.com/kudzu-for-alcoholism/

"as a sole herb to prevent alcohol consumption is that it also interferes with digestion.

Stomach cramps and digestive insufficiency occurs with prolonged use."

Belive me I know pain, but you have to overcome it, use your pain in a healthy way do art or something else, start jogging, then you can feel balance. If you want you can tell what happend and we can find a spititual/ solution for it.

For help with alcohol addiction:

Kudzu Vine, it does stop the absorbtion off alcohol, if taken over a longer time it, it makes you detest alcohol. https://fitrecovery.com/kudzu-for-alcoholism/

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Thank you very much but i dont see my drinking as a problem it does help accept some problems without caring about them, as for finding a solution to my issues i have read through toz and i understand its position on relationships, A persons relationship is their own problem for not becoming a better person and a slowly accepting it

thank you for the kudzu vine information

Belive me I know pain, but you have to overcome it, use your pain in a healthy way do art or something else, start jogging, then you can feel balance. If you want you can tell what happend and we can find a spititual/ solution for it.

For help with alcohol addiction:

Kudzu Vine, it does stop the absorbtion off alcohol, if taken over a longer time it, it makes you detest alcohol. https://fitrecovery.com/kudzu-for-alcoholism/

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Thank you very much but i dont see my drinking as a problem it does help accept some problems without caring about them, as for finding a solution to my issues i have read through toz and i understand its position on relationships, A persons relationship is their own problem for not becoming a better person and am slowly accepting it

thank you for the kudzu vine inf

Thank you very much but i dont see my drinking as a problem it does help accept some problems without caring about them, as for finding a solution to my issues i have read through toz and i understand its position on relationships, A persons relationship is their own problem for not becoming a better person and am slowly accepting it

thank you for the kudzu vine inf

Alcohol does not really help, though. On the contrary, it works against your best interests by creating more issues. It simply creates a temporary state of stupor which acts as an emotional coping mechanism. What truly helps is addressing the core of the issue, and working it out, mentally, physically, and spiritually. Hard, but also the most rewarding. The most rewarding things are never easy. And the easiest things rarely, if ever, are rewarding. Such is life.

I have an important question about meditation and the soul: what are the effects of alcohol on the soul And what are the consequences if you meditate, for example, on opening the third eye under the influence of alcohol? I'm not a drinker, the only time I drank hard was while I was working then I stopped. and also the consequences on the energy centers, the chakras?
Thankyou for your time

Alcohol and drugs make holes in aura. I dont drink alcohol also i dont smoke.

It doesn't matter if poison A is more dangerous than poison B in the short term. They're both poisons in the end. And tolerance to poison doesn't exist.

Being able to "drink more alcohol" before you get the total retardation effect or even the mild retardation effect doesn't mean you're "more tolerant". It just means your body needs to reach a certain level of compound, internal damage before the effects manifest, and it may be faster to heal certain afflictions at certain does, or have stronger process for building and keeping the myelin sheet around your nerves and tracts.

Your liver also never heals from wounds that are inflicted by being overworked by anything, including alcohol. The liver only scars, and beyond a certain level of scarring, you get liver failure, which is a serious thing.

I don't understand something: why would someone want to drink themselves into a stupor, or even in more "moderate" quantities drink something that clouds their mind and numb their senses. Does that really make sense to you?

Just because something is allowed by Clergy or anyone, it doesn't mean that something is quintessentially a net positive for you, does it? Veganism is allowed by our food ethics. Is veganism a healthy diet? No, and you will see / understand as you spiritually that you cannot be a vegan nor a vegetarian. Not because somebody tells you so, but you reach an understanding of your body that simply doesn't it make it legitimate nor excusable. Same with undereating, overeating, eating unhealthy foods of any kind, being fat, being overly muscular, being too thin.

Embodying virtues like Harmony, Balance, and Temperance is part of spiritual advancement. Wisdom, Truth, Justice, Beauty... all virtues that tie into this as well, as do others, as all 36 core virtues are inter-related.

Going back to the original question, yes, alcohol damages your soul in any amount. How much is the damage and how fast you heal depends on many factors. I have replies and post where I discuss some of the physical damages of alcohol. Read them. Make the connections between the physical damage, and the area of the soul it's related to or ruled by (i.e. Leydig cells in your testicles are ruled your your root chakra).

Also, what classifies as "heavy drinking" changes from culture to culture. Some culture, like the British one, have embedded heavy drinking, so their idea of light drinking would look excessive to more relaxed cultures (i.e. Southern European ones). A British rugby lad drink 10+ pints of average beer or cider in a night out without batting an eye, and that's considered normal and is also considered heavy by British standards outside of rugby circles and university sports. This is to make an example, and show you how British people get international reputations for their "rowdiness", which they consider normal social behaviour when it's not considered normal in most of the world. So norms can change by country.

Lastly, as somebody in this topic already said, you don't go from heavy to "puritanism" overnight, unless you genuinely don't give a shit about this and thus you're not really addicted. If you're addicted, you taper down gradually up to a point that is not pathological and that is comfortable with your current level of advancement. That's the idea.

And, yes, you can be heavy drinker or have strong compulsive behaviours without being addicted to them. Being heavily into something harmful isn't the same as being addicted to it.

Addicted? -> gradual taper to a non-pathological, comfortable level
Not addicted? -> easy, immediate taper to a non-pathological, comfortable level

Another thing I will say: moderation, as far as my understanding goes, does not apply to poison. This doesn't contradict what I said when taken as a whole, because you can keep engaging in a behaviour while striving to advance and reach a point when you're not dependent of it. With poison you get 0 as the moderation, and excess from any non-zero volumes. Beyond a certain amount, it's a pathological excess that varies by substance. Some poisons kill you instantly, obviously, rather than have mild responses like the fever, nausea, headache, and other common poison-fighting behaviours of the body. With poison, there is no such thing as deficiency.

The balance is always in the middle. Is it okay to use Spirits in celebration yes it is okay, fine and won't cause damage to your soul. Over indulging to the point where it affects your organs and advancement is izfet, celebrating responsibly or drinking alcohol in small amounts as a medicinal extracted tonic, when needed is not. Also I want to say that it is a western myth that you cannot regenerate the liver fully, the protocol is removal of the "Obstacle to Cure" i.e stop the damage. combined with specific "Proteolytic" (protein-dissolving) and "Choleretic" (bile-stimulating) support. That is not an excuse to break and do the protocol and then go back to bad izfet habits. But it is hope for those who have had a damaging path in their life up to now, and want to know they are not doomed.

Cocaine is made with gasoline, hydrochloric acid, and cement. People have to be absolutely retarded to put that into their bodies.

Especially when most of it likely has fentanyl in it and will kill you. There are multiple different close friends of my close family members whose children died from this, by not knowing that it was fentanyl.

Gordon Ramsay can also attest to that 😅

I have an important question about meditation and the soul: what are the effects of alcohol on the soul?

In my short experience with alcohol where I was forced to drink it (get-together with co-workers, will never allow this again because I hate the stuff), and downed half a bottle via shots, I didn't experience any bad side-effects commonly associated with it, but it did want me to vomit (because I hate the bitter taste, I don't know why people go gaga with this shit 🫠)

Regardless, I had a strange case of being tempted to drink some alcohol-based drinks like the Korean Soju bottles I didn't gave a shit before in the grocery aisle (which tasted just as terrible), and it only went away after a period of time and convincing from the Gods (since they saw I was chasing off a high that would never occur due to my above experience)

All in all, drink responsibly as much as you can, comrade. But I also need to advise to you not to use alcohol to get high because meditation gives you immunity unto these things 😅