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How To Defeat Alcoholism And Drug Abuse [Update: Defeating Food Addiction]

AvatarHigh Priest Zevios Metathronos12 min to read
AsraArdwulfLeberechtsaid:
HP. Zevios Metathronossaid:

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

What do you say about an addiction to food? It's more difficult to draw the limit on this one because food is not something inherently toxic or forbidden that you can just say "I'll stay clear from this", because we need it. So where does the "enough" stop? How do you know if you can do without that additional portion?
This is especially confusing for someone struggling to lose weight because if you eat too little your body enters an emergency state and weight loss doesn't happen.

Actually, excessive food intake can also act in many cases like a drug addiction. We should only look in many cases in the West now, and food has indeed become a drug in itself.

People have been known to beat others senseless for food that they don't need [over a MacDonalds meal] and numerous other things happen because of this, not dissimilar to drugs. An addictive situation around food can arise and cause the same outcomes as other addictions, including overspending, overeating, problems in relationships, or what have you.

Food consumption past a certain degree causes similar effects to getting actual drugs, and that is scientifically documented.

I'll be frank here. How do we control appetite? You fucking shut that fridge down and don't get close to it and don't fucking over-eat.

But as we all know that doesn't work and it's crap advice so I have some actual constructive advice below.

There are tricks. You can eat certain foods that will dampen your appetite, like apples, or find other appetite cutters.

Still, these "appetite cutters" will not necessarily make your weight drop lower, as many bodies will go into an energy conversion mode that indeed anything you throw into them, they will literally attempt to save it as fat. And many bodies are resillient in this craft and not easy to change their course.

Therefore I have some simple advice: Stay away from temptation and away from the fridge if you can, and away from the kitchen counter, and when you experience these overwhelming needs to eat, try to sit them down until they pass, or sidetrack your body by putting you attention elsewhere. We aren't talking about starvation here, we are talking about "oops I just ate 3 chocolate bars now because of my appetite".

Food clearly produces a lot of pleasure and it also activates your parasympathetic nervous system when you eat it. A friend trainer I have explained this to me months ago and therefore this answered a lot of things for me. Trainers and others know, including psychologists, that's the basis of emotional over-eating. One wants to activate the parasympathetic nervous system for relief out of stress. One essentially eats out of a need to do stress relief, out of boredom, or out of wanting to taste things, or other reasons, but stress is central.

I had a friend who became obese after he experienced rejection by a girl years ago. Out of depression, he was trying to manage the feeling of depression and banish it temporarily by food consumption. That should not be taken lightly as it's a real addiction, same as anorexia.

Indeed the key here is to get your diet written down, see what you truly need, and instate in your life a steady diet. But I will be honest, I have never seen a person with extra weight just fixing everything just because they did a diet, especially if they never exercised before.

Excuses are always found by people who just get a diet going, because inherently there can be a lack of willpower. I am nobody to tell you that you can't succeed but I am explaining a rule here, that I have found to be overwhelming.

Now that can be difficult to follow in more than one areas, including preparation yet most people lose this train where self control is maintained. If you have like 99% self control, you can cheat a little bit on diets, but your appetite has to be controlled.

Yet here is the point, without having other habits, to just put someone who is up there in his weight, suddenly on a diet, can be very difficult for them. It can also feel to them like impossible to do on their own. That's why I always have the same recommendation of these subjects...

That's why I give everyone a higher tier of advice, which is to exercise. Why do I tell this to everyone as if I am a lunatic? That's because automatically, exercise hits you on more than one areas:

1. It unavoidably causes you to moderate your diet, or to eat more to do it.
2. You cannot avoid the fact that you have to apply willpower to exercise, and this willpower being trained, can be applied elsewhere in your life.
3. As you see results from exercise over time, you will start feeling guilt and start recognizing what is good for you, and you will want to inherently avoid doing bad dietary choices and so on, out of respect for what you are doing.
4. If you relapse and let's say you fuck up one day an you start eating a lot, you can still decide to rock your training the next day and burn it. You can clear out your mistakes.
5. The overall stress reduction, and the mentality of exercising, will make you naturally in less need of drugs or overeating.
6. Exercise can help you socialize a bit with other people [if you train with them] and this socialization can help banish depression.
7. It will build you self confidence whether you accept this or not based on your physical improvements.

You don't need to become a gym freak for this, just casually exercise and add this to your routine. Even very long walks will do.

Adding meditation to this combination and maintaining this for 2 years, you will come to the forums and thank me for it, or basically thank yourself for the application of this, you will see.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

SATANGODLOVETHOTH140666said:

I need help too I'm drug addicted, I'm failing I'm a alcoholic, need yr help HP Zevios.

Greetings my fellow brother in the Gods,

Now, that situation you are finding yourself into, you must understand, you are not the only one into it. Many Zevists have come into Zevism and struggled with many similar problems, and the striking majority of our people have escaped the chains of these two great slavers, namely, drugs and alcohol.

Over the years the Gods with their knowledge and the community has saved anywhere from people who have been heavy late stage alcoholics, to huge drug addicts, to many others who have been at the jaws of death with all of these false directions in life.

These people have changed their lives completely. Many now have friends, work, happy lives, a good existence where they can hardly remember about these mistakes, but have also matured from doing these and elevated as if these things haven't happened before.

That's a very liberating feeling and one walks around empowered from this.

These negative drinking and drug abuse directions have nowhere to take you, but to definite ends which are only going to cause you more and more grief. There is no goodness in these directions. Every temporary feeling of false relief will be always replaced with more guilt, pain and reprisal.

One must look at these bottles and these things and only see that more pain will arrive, after control has been lost. We want to save people from this pain and the Gods want nobody to suffer from this.

Clearly in this case we are nowhere close to moderated use, therefore this post is about addiction of a serious nature. It's not even about drinking to party once in a while, but we are talking about a self destructive tendency that is actively leading someone to their end.

It can be an uphill battle, yet, with the means and tools that the Gods give to us in our disposal, it is way easier than it is for most people who have no Gods, no ethics, no self awareness of these problems, but also no meditational methods to gradually compensate and fix these issues.

I have to first tell you congratulations for recognizing this problem in your life. It's a big problem. You can see that you are failing because of alcoholism. Having recognized the damning consequences of this problem, is the first step to solving it. Never feel doubt and guilt again for RECOGNIZING the problem.

I also further congratulate you for asking for help in solving this problem on the forums.

Ask also of the Gods with a sincere heart to lead you to a solution to this problem, as the Gods always help people in dire need. The Gods NEVER turn down a honest prayer out of the heart of the distressing man.

One more thing: If the situation is very serious and longterm [and you know you cannot get out of this without the use of substitutes] it is NOT a negative or bad choice to actually seek professional help in a counselling union or anti-alcoholism facility.

In fact, combining this method with the knowledge from ToZ, and returning to the embrace of the Gods, will heal you faster.

Yet, you must be ready to exercise logic and willpower to limit this beast of a habit that has went out of control in your life. You must see drunkedness and drug use as your enemy now, and an enemy that eventually is trying to kill you. You must disassosciate yourself from this, and understand that the real YOU wants to be healthy and in a good life.

This enemy, is very real, and must be destroyed if you are to live a good life. Another delusion that must be banished is the delusion that this is really "you". It comes "from you", but this is not the "real you".

The real you is the person who came out bravely here to ask for help, and wants to fix that. That's the mind you should listen to from now on.

You don't "Truly" want this for yourself, your True Self does not want drugs and drunkedness to take you in and to bring you into a ruinous future, it is the body that aches for these things, mostly out of a response to gain a quick rush that it needs for issues of emotionally avoiding other circumstances that might make your life difficult right now.

You can be open here about what these problems are, and to vent them out. Merely speaking about the problems to the family here, will make you feel like a great weight has been lifted, especially if people aren't hearing you in your normal life. People will hear you out and care for you here.

The cause of these life and internal issues that led to that problem, CAN be fixed. Circumstances can only be addressed, when you focus very much on first setting yourself in order and getting sober. After you regain your power from these mortal enemies, your newfound willpower will be able to be used to even out almost every problem that have led you there in the first place. You have that power in you as a Zevist.

With that stated YOU TOO, YOU CAN DO IT. The point is to DECIDE THIS, and then exercise enough WILLPOWER to finish this task. This is the simple recipe.

To assist your WILLPOWER, you are going to do magick, workings and prayer, in order fortify your mind and slowly de-program it.

Valefor's Power Ritual as seen here: , can be used to facilitate a connection with Valefor and ask him with kindness to help you heal from this ruinous situation. Valefor will assist you and put you on the proper path. There have been cases of miracle situations with this, so be open to miracles, but be aware that real change will take time.

Other Zevists will certainly comment below with workings you can do, such as Runic Workings, Affirmations and other positive self work that you can do detach from these catastrophic situations of alcoholism and drugs.

A positive affirmation you can do is this: "I am free and absolved of drug abuse and alcoholism. I have the willpower to quit, and I am strong. I can deny overdrinking and I always deny doing illegal drugs.

I deny this easily and effortlessly because I love myself and I believe in myself, I want to do good to myself.

I lead a healthy and advancing lifestyle. I want to be healthy and I am healthy.".

Repetition must be done all the time with this, which will eventually make this ingrained into your mind. Affirmations like this can be adjusted, and will over time train your mind to understand the new rules that you are setting for it.

You should also pledge yourself here if that works with your character and update us to your struggle. I wish a full healing from this situation, and may your calmness of heart and mind arrive when you have understood of your inner power and based on a healthy lifestyle, which is definitely something you can achieve.

-High Priest Zevios Metathronos

#60
Fuchssaid:
Henu the Greatsaid:
AsraArdwulfLeberechtsaid:

What do you say about an addiction to food? It's more difficult to draw the limit on this one because food is not something inherently toxic or forbidden that you can just say "I'll stay clear from this", because we need it. So where does the "enough" stop? How do you know if you can do without that additional portion?
This is especially confusing for someone struggling to lose weight because if you eat too little your body enters an emergency state and weight loss doesn't happen.

It comes down to distinguishing between hunger and an appetite. The first needs to be fulfilled, and the other needs to be controlled.

It´s also good to drink much/enouth water (no sugar stuff), sometimes hunger can just be the body craving for water. Also water does dampen the hunger as it fills the belly.

One should also avoid artificial sweeteners, as they lead to the body releasing insoline to reduce the expected increase in sugar. This leads to low blood sugar (hypoglycemia), which must be compensated by food. In the end one does not loose weight rather increases through the use off these sweeteners. Also some longterm studys did show some off them get dissolved in the body like methanol, which can go as far as blindness.

"Human beings must become enlightened in order to find their way in the dark. Becoming enlightened means becoming smart travelers, who acquire knowledge of the way, an understanding of the local language and friendship with other travelers. We are all travelers in eternity." Thoth

#61

Opening crown chakra can heal you from drug addict.
https://templeofzeus.org/Crown_Chakra.php

But first you must open your 3rd eye and 6th chakra.
I hope you will succeed in your fight with addiction.

#62
JoS Cyber Securitysaid:

Opening crown chakra can heal you from drug addict.
https://templeofzeus.org/Crown_Chakra.php

But first you must open your 3rd eye and 6th chakra.
I hope you will succeed in your fight with addiction.

Great idea. Very good meditational advice. I will share it with my Zevism friends from Italy as well.

#63
Asterion666said:
JoS Cyber Securitysaid:

Opening crown chakra can heal you from drug addict.
https://templeofzeus.org/Crown_Chakra.php

But first you must open your 3rd eye and 6th chakra.
I hope you will succeed in your fight with addiction.

Great idea. Very good meditational advice. I will share it with my Zevism friends from Italy as well.

Crack and smack are the two worst to kick, this fentanyl is starting to come over here, people askin for trouble taking that im not sure theres anyway back from it.

They are putting it on pills online so if anyone out there self medicates, please be careful as you dont know what you are getting.

Stay safe troops.

Ave Satanas

#64
Henu the Greatsaid:
blackwizardsaid:

i am here asking for help from experience

Physical exercise can and will help a lot. It is a key component, especially for those struggling with amphetamine addiction.

Exercise releases hormones in a controlled and healthy fashion which is vital for health and well-being. This is in total contrast to drug usage when there is a supranormal release upon ingesting something from the outside.

thanks brother i wish you all the best too
i don't have negative people or pattern in my life and the dose that i take is small quarter bill everyday but still this is drug addiction
and what i can tell you is that i am soon starting to make it happen no drugs any more
thanks again for your caring

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#65

I have a question and i know it is sound stupid, but one ca raise the Kundalini while he is addicted just to cigarettes?I quit smoking weed and other stuff like that something like 5 years ago.

Otherwords, i would be gratefull if you guys can explain me how cigarettes can kill the spiritual gains that we are triying to achieve by yoga and meditations

#66
Meneteusaid:

I have a question and i know it is sound stupid, but one ca raise the Kundalini while he is addicted just to cigarettes?I quit smoking weed and other stuff like that something like 5 years ago.

Otherwords, i would be gratefull if you guys can explain me how cigarettes can kill the spiritual gains that we are triying to achieve by yoga and meditations

Cigarettes damage your lungs first and foremost, drying them out. Anything in your respiratory system is damage primarily. What does this mean? On the spiritual level, it's your middle chakra and throat chakra that you are hurting. Those are the receivers of your main damage. But it goes beyond that.

I'll leave you with a question. Think of how breath is the source of power and life: what happens if you create obstacles to your breathing?

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#67
Meneteusaid:

I have a question and i know it is sound stupid, but one ca raise the Kundalini while he is addicted just to cigarettes?I quit smoking weed and other stuff like that something like 5 years ago.

Otherwords, i would be gratefull if you guys can explain me how cigarettes can kill the spiritual gains that we are triying to achieve by yoga and meditations

You have the wrong and naive assumption that you can actually raise the kundalini while being a weak person, the step before raising the kundalini is actually to be a very spiritually advanced person, which won't happen if you keep being a weak person who can't let go of stupid vices.

I am reaching towards a green apple.

#68

Something I have to add for those who may see it ive used many natural supplements one I use on a daily and I notice a huge difference in energy levels and its helped me kick some addictions it detoxes the body and aids in weight loss, reduces appetite, deodorize the body, it heals wounds faster, i believe it has many benefits and that's chlorophyll you can buy it right off Amazon I get the dropper put a few drops in some water or under the tongue and viola you are going to notice a huge difference you'll lose excess fat, those here who have addiction problems (myself included) you wont find a better supplement ive never really had a eating problem, from my own experience i can almost guarantee if you do have eating problems it'll help you immensely with your appetite an weight loss had a random thought that inspired me to come on here and share this so I did

HAIL ZEUS

#69

So in order to achive my dream, i have to kill this stupid shit.I like to see a direct a message that open my eyes, So thank you guys 😁

#70
sailhatan88said:

Something I have to add for those who may see it ive used many natural supplements one I use on a daily and I notice a huge difference in energy levels and its helped me kick some addictions it detoxes the body and aids in weight loss, reduces appetite, deodorize the body, it heals wounds faster, i believe it has many benefits and that's chlorophyll you can buy it right off Amazon I get the dropper put a few drops in some water or under the tongue and viola you are going to notice a huge difference you'll lose excess fat, those here who have addiction problems (myself included) you wont find a better supplement ive never really had a eating problem, from my own experience i can almost guarantee if you do have eating problems it'll help you immensely with your appetite an weight loss had a random thought that inspired me to come on here and share this so I did

HAIL ZEUS

You almost sold me this.

I did a 5-minute research and the conclusion was that eating green vegetables and leafy greens, in general, will have the same benefit for a fraction of the cost of chlorophyll supplements.

So, eat your veggies, people!

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#71
Henu the Greatsaid:
sailhatan88said:

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I did a 5-minute research and the conclusion was that eating green vegetables and leafy greens, in general, will have the same benefit for a fraction of the cost of chlorophyll supplements.

Not to mention many other substances than just chlorophyll itself. It is very hard to truly replace natural foods. The worst of this can be seen with breast milk, which contains high quality fat and protein, but also immune cells and other things that cannot be replicated, yet manufacturers just make a whey and vegetable oil blend as a substitute.

#72
Blitzkreig [JGsaid:

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Henu the Greatsaid:
sailhatan88said:

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I did a 5-minute research and the conclusion was that eating green vegetables and leafy greens, in general, will have the same benefit for a fraction of the cost of chlorophyll supplements.

Not to mention many other substances than just chlorophyll itself. It is very hard to truly replace natural foods. The worst of this can be seen with breast milk, which contains high quality fat and protein, but also immune cells and other things that cannot be replicated, yet manufacturers just make a whey and vegetable oil blend as a substitute.

What about collagen and hyaluronic acid? I've read that it helps a lot with aging, bone problems and wrinkles. Can't really add this with food...?

#73
luissaid:

What about collagen and hyaluronic acid? I've read that it helps a lot with aging, bone problems and wrinkles. Can't really add this with food...?

Our bodies create collagen as needed when it is supplied with whole foods that support the creation of it. The same is true for hyaluronic acid. I would agree that using hyaluronic acid as a skin care product, especially when there is an emergency can be supplemented as our bodies are unlikely to function as Demigods or Gods, healing almost instantly.

Blitzkreig [JGsaid:

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Not to mention many other substances than just chlorophyll itself. It is very hard to truly replace natural foods. The worst of this can be seen with breast milk, which contains high quality fat and protein, but also immune cells and other things that cannot be replicated, yet manufacturers just make a whey and vegetable oil blend as a substitute.

To be fair, chlorophyll supplements often contain other useful micronutrients as well. But yeah, I agree with you.

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For beginners: A Beginner's Guide

#74
This is the targeted message.
Henu the Greatsaid:
luissaid:

What about collagen and hyaluronic acid? I've read that it helps a lot with aging, bone problems and wrinkles. Can't really add this with food...?

Our bodies create collagen as needed when it is supplied with whole foods that support the creation of it. The same is true for hyaluronic acid. I would agree that using hyaluronic acid as a skin care product, especially when there is an emergency can be supplemented as our bodies are unlikely to function as Demigods or Gods, healing almost instantly.

Blitzkreig [JGsaid:

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Not to mention many other substances than just chlorophyll itself. It is very hard to truly replace natural foods. The worst of this can be seen with breast milk, which contains high quality fat and protein, but also immune cells and other things that cannot be replicated, yet manufacturers just make a whey and vegetable oil blend as a substitute.

With age our body don't function really well (or if you have some health issues) so adding collagen and hyaluronic acid would help, i think. I've to try since I have some lines on my forehead. I'm not completely against supplements, food nowadays is not like it used to and we may have a lot of deficensies.

#75
luissaid:

With age our body don't function really well (or if you have some health issues) so adding collagen and hyaluronic acid would help, i think. I've to try since I have some lines on my forehead. I'm not completely against supplements, food nowadays is not like it used to and we may have a lot of deficensies.

This is where Yogic practices come to play helping us to alleviate and even overcome such issus.

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For beginners: A Beginner's Guide

#76
luissaid:

With age our body don't function really well (or if you have some health issues) so adding collagen and hyaluronic acid would help, i think. I've to try since I have some lines on my forehead. I'm not completely against supplements, food nowadays is not like it used to and we may have a lot of deficensies.

Modern food has a lot of toxins and other problems, but it is not hard to obtain enough raw nourishment. Currently, meat is abundant, and this should have enough yin components to stave off health problems. The problem here, or with an excess of supplements, is that the body eventually hits a limit to what it can actually digest and integrate into itself, resulting in the creation of fat.

This is why you cannot eat 10 eggs in one sitting as a means to get your collagen, despite these eggs being a great yin source. Yet, we know that the Sun rules digestion, and therefore a stronger Sun is able to pull this off without resulting in fat or bloating.

I suspect this directly pertains to the Sun's ability to gain wealth and do business. A weak Sun wouldn't know what to do with a large sum of money or power, but a strong Sun would have the confidence to deal with it. As the Sun likes to "invest" into its subjects, a person with a strong Sun would have a better sense as to how to handle money, at least in this aspect. Similarly, a strong Sun can process large amounts of dietary "wealth" without getting overloaded.

#77
Henu the Greatsaid:
luissaid:

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This is where Yogic practices come to play helping us to alleviate and even overcome such issus.

Yeah of course. I was talking more broadly about people that do not meditate too. We are the luckiest since we have access to knowledge that most don't have. I would not brush it off completely unless you are quite advanced and can heal things faster.

Blitzkreig [JGsaid:

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luissaid:

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Modern food has a lot of toxins and other problems, but it is not hard to obtain enough raw nourishment. Currently, meat is abundant, and this should have enough yin components to stave off health problems. The problem here, or with an excess of supplements, is that the body eventually hits a limit to what it can actually digest and integrate into itself, resulting in the creation of fat.

Interesting. Strong digestion is definitely the most important thing for health. Since our gut is literally our second brain and it probably rules everything. About supplements I would not brush them off completely, I've read great things about collagen and hyaluronic acid, from real people with real experiences with it and it seems to work, now us Zevists can combine this with our spiritual knowledge and take things to the next level when it comes to health and reverses aging.

#78
luissaid:

About supplements I would not brush them off completely, I've read great things about collagen and hyaluronic acid, from real people with real experiences with it and it seems to work, now us Zevism can combine this with our spiritual knowledge and take things to the next level when it comes to health and reverses aging.

My point was that one can get a better cost-to-return ratio by scouring grocery stores for all sorts of whole foods instead of supplementing with something that can cost five, ten, or twentyfold, for example.

There are undeniable benefits from supplements and beauty products that come with a larger price tag.

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#79
Blitzkreig [JGsaid:

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Henu the Greatsaid:
sailhatan88said:

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I did a 5-minute research and the conclusion was that eating green vegetables and leafy greens, in general, will have the same benefit for a fraction of the cost of chlorophyll supplements.

Not to mention many other substances than just chlorophyll itself. It is very hard to truly replace natural foods. The worst of this can be seen with breast milk, which contains high quality fat and protein, but also immune cells and other things that cannot be replicated, yet manufacturers just make a whey and vegetable oil blend as a substitute.

I heard it's pretty good to deal with heavy metal poisoning. Otherwise, I wouldn't suggest it as a daily supplement.

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Heil Zeus!
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